2+2 vs 2+0

[Chattzx]

totally retarded thread
every single poster said they liked what they own better and gave no real solid reasons. great

it's obviously just personal preference, but the one guy who claimed the 2+2 turns in better and rotates better..... moran
longer wheel base cars are more stable at the limit and spin less in drift, but they MOST DEF rotate slower
btw... even the 2+2 isnt really all that long a wheelbase!!!
ugh

Well s*** they are basically the same damn car so there isn't too much to debate about. If you want back seats get the 2+2 if not then get the 2+0. No point in calling people morons.

[randOmcLamsheLL]

the 2+2's lines flow better if you ask me, the 2+0 looks kinda stubby..i've had both and the 2+2 is a tad bit more functional, never hurts to have a lil extra space for stuff

[Ace2cool]

totally retarded thread
every single poster said they liked what they own better and gave no real solid reasons. great

it's obviously just personal preference, but the one guy who claimed the 2+2 turns in better and rotates better..... moran
longer wheel base cars are more stable at the limit and spin less in drift, but they MOST DEF rotate slower
btw... even the 2+2 isnt really all that long a wheelbase!!!
ugh

*AHEM*

Don't know if you noticed, but I own BOTH models there, hoss. Not to mention most people usually buy the version of the car that THEY THEMSELVES like better. Didn't know if you know how that worked, so I thought I'd let you in on that secret. If you like the 2+2 better, you're not gonna go out and buy a N/A 2+0. Just doesn't make sense.

Sure, racing heritage is no solid reason. Neither is that the 2+2 has 50/50 weight dist and only weighs roughly 180 more pounds. Or the fact that your yourself are admitting that the longer wheelbase aids the handling. Yeah, let's throw all those points out. No one here has ANY solid reason to why the 2+2 is better.

And I'm gonna let you and rare solve your little issue between yourselves. My money's going on rare. He at least knows how to spell insults properly.

I'm gonna ask nicely that you tone it down, and keep it easy on the insults. That was totally uncalled for. Take a deep breath, and back away from the keyboard.

[FinneousPJ]

Hey guys,

thanks for sharing your opinions. I'm not gonna reply directly to every single post, just a few.

i've got my 2+2 and comparing it side by side to a 2+0 i like mine better, which is good, because i own it and it would be a pain to sell and re-purchase if i didn't like it

the trunkspace in a 2+2 is half that of a 2+0 (if you care), and the backseats are actually quite handy sometimes. there is next to no room back there, but my son fits nicely, and short people under 5'9" have no problem

oh, and i think the location of the gas tank filler hole looks weird on a 2+0

Trunk space is only half but I guess you could toss your stuff in the back seat But that's exactly my point, I don't need backseats, and I think it'd be cool to own a 2-seat sports car.

New 370z looks like a cross breed of the 240z+300ZX+350z... And yes, I want to own one someday in my collection.

As far as performance differences, it's noticable. A 2+2 was highly favored in Japan for racing and drifting. This is because the longer wheelbase(WB) has a better yaw stability when corning. Additionally, there are few tight corners in most tracks to be in favor of a quick turning car, where stability can be had for the other parts of the track.

For short and long WB discussion. Short WB oversteers while the longer wb understeers. The longer WB counters rotation about it's CG, aka yaw, allowing for better turn in than the short WB. In other words, long WB can be the quicker one on the track due to better traction of the tires.

Eh, I meant in everyday driving. I'm not building a race car. Well, it seems - quite unexpectedly - that the longer wheelbase car would be the superior one in terms of performance. Must say I'm quite surprised with what I've learned. I guess I could look at some 2+2 with this newly acquired knowledge

How do you "yanks" feel about the TT 2+2, yay or nay?

[NolimitZ32]

Dude unless you are building a designated race car and plan on becoming a full time race driver, buy the one you think looks/feels cooler/better because after all its you that has to drive it.

[DanDrath]

twin turbo 2+2 ftw

[FinneousPJ]

Dude unless you are building a designated race car and plan on becoming a full time race driver, buy the one you think looks/feels cooler/better because after all its you that has to drive it.

I'm undecided, thus the thread.

[Barry (NJ)]

Here you go...



I love my 2+2 TT...


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[raremotive]

the one guy who claimed the 2+2 turns in better and rotates better
longer wheel base cars are more stable at the limit and spin less in drift, but they MOST DEF rotate slower

Hello New Jersey,

Rotates better, as in countering it's rotation.. like I said in my post. Which means rotates slower. You just supported my point.

I have nothing against you. But I ask you be constructive in this forum. I am willing to explain if I fall short in details, you just need to ask here or PM me. Even when you disagree with me, just post/PM why you do. I ask anyone to that.

Cheers,

Darren

[Ace2cool]

Not gonna have any flaming posts in this thread, about this thread, or around this thread. 2+2 vs 2+0 has been discussed, yes. However, something not as widely discussed is the option of having BOTH chassis available in your country TT from the factory. That's why I deleted those last 3 posts. They contributed nothing to the thread.

As far as vig's thread, I'm not reopening it until he PM's me with solid progress. It was simply turning into a flame-fest. Not gonna have that in here either. Sorry.

If you have any concerns, feel free to PM me. I'm sure we can work something out.

[gnozahs]

I own both a 2+2 and 2 seater and I seriously love the 2 seater body style much more than the longer 4 seater. It's so much sexier imo.

[FinneousPJ]

Hey guys,

back after some midsummer partying...

Here you go...

I love my 2+2 TT...

*pictures*

Super awesome, thank you

Yeah, I see now what people mean by the 2+0 having the gas filler cap in a weird place... But damn, both look so nice. I agree the 2+2 is kinda sleeker, more GT-like.

Not gonna have any flaming posts in this thread, about this thread, or around this thread. 2+2 vs 2+0 has been discussed, yes. However, something not as widely discussed is the option of having BOTH chassis available in your country TT from the factory. That's why I deleted those last 3 posts. They contributed nothing to the thread.

As far as vig's thread, I'm not reopening it until he PM's me with solid progress. It was simply turning into a flame-fest. Not gonna have that in here either. Sorry.

If you have any concerns, feel free to PM me. I'm sure we can work something out.

Yeah, I meant to ask which would you choose if you HAD the choice of TT 2+0 or TT 2+2. I'm not contemplating a 2+2 NA, it's TT vs. TT.

I own both a 2+2 and 2 seater and I seriously love the 2 seater body style much more than the longer 4 seater. It's so much sexier imo.

Hehe, yeah varying opinions here among the people who can proudly claim to own both.

Thanks for your contributions!