2+2 TT With fmic...how is yours mounted

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I am trying to figure the best way to mount FMIC on 2+2 TT conversion. lets see your pics and what worked for you

Im also running a 3 radiatior and trying to get things organised in there :-)

Let me know!


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The best way to mount it is to not use an FMIC in the first place. :)

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LOL! I gotta agree though. My roommate used a generic steel bracket that we bought at home depot, and rigged it up using that. It's like 1/8" steel, 90* bend, and goes across the bumper support the width of the IC.

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BigTDogg (MA) wrote:The best way to mount it is to not use an FMIC in the first place. :)

Thank you for your WAY TOO HELPFUL post :-)

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Ace2cool wrote:LOL! I gotta agree though. My roommate used a generic steel bracket that we bought at home depot, and rigged it up using that. It's like 1/8" steel, 90* bend, and goes across the bumper support the width of the IC.

Any photos?

I have been back and forth on the SMIC FMIC debate... and there seems to be equal argument on both... but since i wanted to keep stock bumper and stock look (without removing the side markers for airflow to the SMIC) i decided for FMIC

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If your keeping the stock bumper then get the z1 sides or ashspec if money is no object.

I personally went with the FMIC for looks. I have the WW kit and the front bumper has a huge inlet and without a FMIC you could see all the AC parts and oil cooler. It just looked worng/ out of place without an FMIC.

I will say however the GSP FMIC is complete garbage as far as airflow goes. The outside of the end tanks are nice and polished, however the inside has SOOO much casting material not polished down. IE its super rough on the inside. Imagine like the inside of an un modified intake manifold..only durastically worse. as much as like 1mm ridges everywhere....But you get what you pay for. As far as any pressure drop, im runnng the 15psi z1 boost jets and it runs 15psi at the manifold. Also they are a bar and plate design which isnt ideal for external aorflow through the fins. If you look at a GReddy or other quality FMIC they have rounded edges on the "Bars" and their not flat or "squared" like the EBAY ones. The rounded edges aid in air flow thru the fins.

On another note when i first intalled it i loved to get out after a hard drive and put one hand on the hot pipe and one on the cold pipe. One was deffinately Warm and the other deffinately COLD...So it doed work despite it being an ebay product. Also keep in mind im not looking to save .010's of a second on lap/drag times. Im just drifting..so eventually ill smash it anyways.

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skywhine wrote:
On another note when i first intalled it i loved to get out after a hard drive and put one hand on the hot pipe and one on the cold pipe. One was deffinately Warm and the other deffinately COLD...So it doed work despite it being an ebay product. Also keep in mind im not looking to save .010's of a second on lap/drag times. Im just drifting..so eventually ill smash it anyways.

Do you think the GSP FMIC will be fine for the occasional "spank another car" kinda race... not looking for serious racing or hard core...just want it there if i need it kinda deal.

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If its "good enough" for the 500hp competition drift car im planning, it should be just fine on a daily. By competetion i do not mean formula d, im not trying to fan boy out here. However as others will most likely chime in with: Their is a big difference between "good enough" and actual quality. I would venture to say its better than stock (Or at least larger) but i may not be correct. Like i said, i only did it for looks. Otherwise i would have went with the z1 SMIC. The Z1's actually have an enthusiasts R&D with actual dyno runs. The GSP is just a cast aluminum copy of a GReddy or other quality end tanks on a generic bar and plkate core. It all depends on what YOU want.

The other thing to consider is if you put an FMIC under the factory bumper without hacking it up their will be virtually no airflow going to it with such a small opening in the bumper. Even my WW bumper blocks flow to the top 1/4 of the FMIC. So actually 1/2 of the top intercooler is blocked. The FMIC is essentially 2 small intercoolers stacked on top of eachother.

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skywhine wrote:If its "good enough" for the 500hp competition drift car im planning, it should be just fine on a daily. By competetion i do not mean formula d, im not trying to fan boy out here. However as others will most likely chime in with: Their is a big difference between "good enough" and actual quality. I would venture to say its better than stock (Or at least larger) but i may not be correct. Like i said, i only did it for looks. Otherwise i would have went with the z1 SMIC. The Z1's actually have an enthusiasts R&D with actual dyno runs. The GSP is just a cast aluminum copy of a GReddy or other quality end tanks on a generic bar and plkate core. It all depends on what YOU want.

The other thing to consider is if you put an FMIC under the factory bumper without hacking it up their will be virtually no airflow going to it with such a small opening in the bumper. Even my WW bumper blocks flow to the top 1/4 of the FMIC. So actually 1/2 of the top intercooler is blocked. The FMIC is essentially 2 small intercoolers stacked on top of eachother.
Yea i have thought about that. so i am gunna try the GSP with stock bumper, if that doesnt work well enough i will probably wind up getting SMIC's. but For now FMIC it is.

May i see how you mounted yours?

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I posted pix

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zfan4life wrote:
BigTDogg (MA) wrote:The best way to mount it is to not use an FMIC in the first place. :)
Thank you for your WAY TOO HELPFUL post :-)
Lol, a little sarcastic tonight, eh? He's being completely honest though.

Here's a pic of Wes's Z while it still had everything apart:

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Hope you can see alright. It's literally just a piece of 90* steel.

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Could.u get a close up on the.mount.itself.for.me?

Also. Does it fit like that against the steel.bumper

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Unfortunately, not now, as the car is all put together and tucked in a storage unit until Wes moves. There's 2 bolts holding the steel bracket upper portion to just under where the bumper cover fits into place, marked in green on this pic, and the bolts into the FMIC are marked it red.

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That's about the best I can do to show you. You can also check the BF section of the service manual for a little bit more of a look at how everything fits together. And not sure what you're saying about the steel bumper. If you look at skywhine's post above, you can see the FMIC is actually going to be behind the bumper reinforcement after everything's all bolted up.

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skywhine wrote:I posted pix
Yea i saw that, i was asking for maybe some closer of how its mounted there... i see the general area but not the actual mounting. Thankyou

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Mines also all put together, but next time the bumper is off I'll snap some pix. Prolly won't be for awhile.


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