1997 engine ?

[socsmm6]

My son bought a 97 4wd truck. it has the 2400 12 valve 4 cylinder with a 5 speed transmission. the truck ran fine for about 2 months (mpg's sucked). for some odd reason the truck started to burn about 1 pint of oil every 50 to 60 miles. we checked compression, #2 and 3 has about 160 and #1 and 4 has about 100. it looks like he needs a new engine. what models interchange with this truck? I have heard that the 96 and the 97 engines were the only models that are the same. after looking at the engine compartment it looks like the engine may have been changed before. we took it to auto zone and checked the codes, it showed several crank shaft sensor and emission codes. the truck is missing the crankshaft sensor and the wire that goes to it. i was wondering if the truck has the right engine in it or has someone done a hack job with another engine?

[Rev_D21]

Sounds like a hack job since the 96-97 came with the KA24DE not the KA24E.

[socsmm6]

how do you tell the difference in the two engines?

[socsmm6]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N...ationthis article does not agree, where did you get you info? thanks for the help.

[nismopu]

umm

Sounds like a hack job since the 96-97 came with the KA24DE not the KA24E.

The ka24e came in all year HB's from 89-97, your correct in the assumption that the 96-97's are specific. However any KA24e made for the nissan HB will work and you will just need to swap the front cover from your 97 if you get an earlier model HB engine. Make sure though the engine you pull out has the hole for the crank sensor in the front cover. It will be directly opposite of the external oil pump on the front cover. Also, check the radiator and see if it looks milky just to rule out a blown head gasket. I guarantee that this is the case, especially with it being evenly distributed between two cylinders like that. peace.

[socsmm6]

the crank sensor for this truck is in the bellhousing on the transmission, at least for this particular engine transmission combo that is in the truck. my son talked to someone that owned the truck several years back and they changed the engine, transmission and transfer case. something about the truck running off a boat ramp. would have liked to known this before we bought the truck. the truck runs very smooth at idle, has very little power and gets 12 miles to the gallon. my other truck has a hemi so I'm not sure how much power it should have. my son said it did pull better than his 22re yota, he already killed it. what could this drivetrain come out of? the antifreeze looks good, black smoke coming from the tail pipe.

[Rev_D21]

umm NO! The ka24e came in all year HB's from 89-97, your correct in the assumption that the 96-97's are specific. However any KA24e made for the nissan HB will work and you will just need to swap the front cover from your 97 if you get an earlier model HB engine. Make sure though the engine you pull out has the hole for the crank sensor in the front cover. It will be directly opposite of the external oil pump on the front cover. Also, check the radiator and see if it looks milky just to rule out a blown head gasket. I guarantee that this is the case, especially with it being evenly distributed between two cylinders like that. peace.

Calm down there, so I am wrong (won't be the first, won't be the last). No sense having a heart attack over it.

[nismopu]

I am pretty sure the rest of my post was very calm. Its funny how bad you take any comment what so ever. This is the internet, ok. Just calm down and realize this site and every other site is to inform people, no one else take my comments or statements as insulting; just direct and to the point. Sorry, if I come off as harsh.

Its not likely the engine was switched unless theres direct signs of it being swapped. I didnt realize they ran the crank sensor two different ways on these pikcups. The frontiers were run on the transmission bellhousing as well so I guess it makes sense being that late of an HB. I would run the ECU codes, and see what they say. The black smoke makes me think something else might be the problem. peace.

[Rev_D21]

I am pretty sure the rest of my post was very calm. Its funny how bad you take any comment what so ever. This is the internet, ok. Just calm down and realize this site and every other site is to inform people, no one else take my comments or statements as insulting; just direct and to the point. Sorry, if I come off as harsh.

It's just your comments that rub me the wrong way, something about the way you use capital letters. There is a difference between "no" and "Ummm NO!" You said it yourself, it's the internet and what anyone writes is subject to my interpretation regardless of how they may have meant it. I try to keep a cool outlook on comments most of time but I determine capital letters to mean someone is yelling at me and that sets the tone of how I will react to any further comments from that point on. I am open-minded though so if you weren't yelling I will take you at your word. You do have a lot of useful knowledge that helps a lot of people. I suggest just work on your tone and we will get along just fine.

TRUCK MODS:I apologize for this public display of dirty laundry.

[Desert Rat]

Questions were answered. Let's move on.

[socsmm6]

nismopufound out the engine, transmission,transfercase, and rearend have been changed, or so a previous owner stated. the driveline was supposed to have come out of a 96 model truck. thanks for the info
Modified by socsmm6 at 1:46 PM 7/8/2008

[nismopu]

keep us updated with what you find or any further questions. peace.

[Rev_D21]

nismopufound out the engine, transmission,transfercase, and rearend have been changed, or so a previos owner stated. the driveline was supposed to have come out of a 96 model truck. thanks for the info

So in big truck terms you purchased a "glider".

[socsmm6]

So in big truck terms you purchased a "glider".

if that means the same as pos, then yes he did purchase a glider lol.