1996 N/A to tt conversion

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sunroof446
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Is it possibble to convert a 96 from a n/a auto to a tt 5-speed. I heard it is very difficult to almost impossible because of the obd 2 system. I was looking to buy a wrecked tt from the insurance auctions but I doubt I will find a 96. I was thinking I could totally rewire the car from the parts car & eliminate the obd2 is that posssible. Any suggestions would greatley appreciated. THANKS, JOE


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search and read the stickes, this used to be an almost daily question, yes you can but if you value your money and time, you'll sell the n/a and buy a TT

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That would be a big mess, ive got a 96 TT and its hard enough trying to get it tuned let alone swaping the engine/transmission for something older

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NissanFairladyZ32 wrote:That would be a big mess, ive got a 96 TT and its hard enough trying to get it tuned let alone swaping the engine/transmission for something older
Sounds like I have the worst year to try to modify. would I be better selling it & finding a 95 or older tt model to begin with or just leave the drivetrain alone. I am assuming there is a big performance difference between na & the tt model. I do high end restoratins on mopar muscle cars for a living. I was looking at doing my 300zx with the twin z rear cover the 99 front cover & some side skirts. My car is pearl white & I wanted to do a color change to either the 96 purple or the 03 brickyard red. Wich means I would want to paint the engine compartment. I don't know if its worth doing all of this work on a na model. Basically what I am asking is would all of this paint & body modifacations be worth doing on a na model? Would any of you guys be doing this to a na model? I am not looking to try to do all this work to try to sell it. But I don't want to stick a ton of money & time into a na model if they are dead issues.

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it's nto a matter of the year, the only issue wiht the year is the ecu is different, if you have emissions you ahve to retain your electronic's and remap them or swap for a 96 tt ecu, no matter what year you ahve it's cheaper and easier to sell the n/a and buy a TT, and you'll save many many man hours and busted knuckes and sleepless nights and it will have a higher resell value if it's a factory TT

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sunroof446 wrote:Is it possibble to convert a 96 from a n/a auto to a tt 5-speed. I heard it is very difficult to almost impossible because of the obd 2 system. I was looking to buy a wrecked tt from the insurance auctions but I doubt I will find a 96. I was thinking I could totally rewire the car from the parts car & eliminate the obd2 is that posssible. Any suggestions would greatley appreciated. THANKS, JOE
A few links and documents that may help you along the way in your research:

From the team @ Z1:
http://bit.ly/bDSA3b

A good write up by Ash Powers of AshSPEC:
http://bit.ly/9YSIjm

Internal NICOclub thread:
http://bit.ly/aAq0Ug

If you took a look at these already then please disregard. Only trying to help.

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Ok guys thanks for your help. I just sold my na last night going to look at some tt's today. As everyone said it would be easier & cheaper in the long run. I appreciate everyones heip. THANKS, JOE

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why dont you just turbocharge the n/a in a single turbo setup. just a** much work but way more brownie points

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jbracy7 wrote:why dont you just turbocharge the n/a in a single turbo setup. just a** much work but way more brownie points
10.5:1 c/r + 270cc injectors + weak fuel pump = recipe for disaster.

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car nut wrote:
jbracy7 wrote:why dont you just turbocharge the n/a in a single turbo setup. just a** much work but way more brownie points
10.5:1 c/r + 270cc injectors + weak fuel pump = recipe for disaster.
all fixable. upgrade to tt injectors+walboro fuel pump+a good tune= a really unique nissan. finding room to place said big eeffing turbo is your problem

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i agree with car_nut, i'd do an rb26-swap if i could, but just a lot of headaches to do a single-turbo on a naturally-aspirated engine.

if you're going to go to tt injectors and walbro and i'm guessing tt pistons, etc. --- why not just get a tt engine to begin with?

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sunroof446 wrote:Ok guys thanks for your help. I just sold my na last night going to look at some tt's today. As everyone said it would be easier & cheaper in the long run. I appreciate everyones heip. THANKS, JOE
easier, i think so.

cheaper, i don't think so, because you're gonna have to do the same or regular maintenance items anyway, regardless if it's a native-tt or a swap-tt.

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jbracy7 wrote:
car nut wrote:
10.5:1 c/r + 270cc injectors + weak fuel pump = recipe for disaster.
all fixable. upgrade to tt injectors+walboro fuel pump+a good tune= a really unique nissan. finding room to place said big eeffing turbo is your problem
Of course it's fixable, but the point is that for just a little bit more you can have a real TT, one with a bottom end that will take 20psi stock. No headaches, no custom work and no need to worry about a bad batch of gas. See my point?

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there is no real appreciable difference in the bottom end, the rod pins are thicker and the oil squirters are at a different angle, they bith use hyperutecnic pistons which are the weak link in both


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