19 Rogue Tire Pressure

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19 Rogue Tire Pressure

Postby datechboss101 » Tue Dec 03, 2019 3:32 am

I know that refilling tire air once a month is common, but the tire air in the 19 Rogue is losing air within like 2-3 weeks of me filling it up. And it has like 4500 miles on it and is only driven on weekdays with a roughly 70-mile commute each weekday. Is it just faulty tires from factory or valve stems? Considering that my 2016 never drops to 30 PSI at all (got new tires August 2018). Cold PSI for both Rogues is at 33 PSI, not 30 PSI. And I live in Florida, where it is warm/hot year-round. Even at 50 degrees the 2016 holds tire pressure at 33 PSI cold.


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Re: 19 Rogue Tire Pressure

Postby DTASFAB » Tue Dec 03, 2019 5:09 am

Could be bad seal between rubber and alloy wheel. Have you done anything to the wheels like powder coating or anything?

The valve stems aren't just plain valve stems. They're part of the TPMS sensors. For older vehicles, there is a kit available to replace the valve stem that's part of the sensor assembly, which does not require replacement of the entire sensor assembly. If you can save the sensor and just replace the stem and extension, it can save some money and save the headache of programming all new sensors to the vehicle. But on a new car with less than 5000 miles, it doesn't seem like this would be your problem. However, it could be that all the sensors and their respective valve stems are bad for some reason.

It could also be that the tires themselves are defective.

You really have to put each tire in a calm bucket of water. Slowly and meticuously determine where the leaks are coming from by looking for tiny air bubbles rising to the surface of the water. Then address the problem based on what you find. Those tires will definitely still be under warranty, but not from Nissan. I hope you have a decent Nissan dealer near you, because it's a lot easier to let their service department fight with the tire manufacturer than doing it yourself.

Are there any other tire related symptoms? Any pulling to one side, vibration, wheels feeling out of balance or out of round? Cupping? Anything weird besides loss of air?

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Re: 19 Rogue Tire Pressure

Postby datechboss101 » Tue Dec 03, 2019 5:21 am

Other than realigning the vehicle from the collision, there is nothing major that I feel in terms of pulling or vibration. I did called the dealer we bought the vehicle from and they told me the tires isn't covered under the warranty (including that limited 1 year / 12k mile warranty). Probably need to take it to the dealer close to home as I do have a great relation with them. No powder coating or modification on wheels was done, basically fully stock.

I definately have to check friday and next week on the tire pressure again, so that I can take it in with evidence that theres an air leak. Warm temps for the tires should be 35 to 36 PSI, from the experience of driving the 2016.

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Re: 19 Rogue Tire Pressure

Postby DTASFAB » Tue Dec 03, 2019 5:52 am

I'm not sure about the 1 year/12k mile warranty, but those tires are definitely covered by the tire manufacturer. Any dealer that doesn't recognize that is not a dealer I would trust with my vehicle for any type of work. There's really no better way for a dealer to tell you they don't give a s*** about you or your problem.

The more air you put in the tires, the more obvious the leak will become. I would fill them to 40 psi, drive around normally for a few days, and see what happens. When you do the water bucket test, also increase the PSI to 40. Actually, since you won't be driving on them during the test, you can safely fill them to whatever the max PSI is printed on the sidewall of the tire. This will increase the pressure, and at least temporarily, increase the rate at which air escapes through the slow leaks.

I find it very unusual that all four tires are having the same problem. It suggests either defective tires or a piss poor installation job of mounting and balancing at the Nissan factory. You are 100% correct that if the ambient temperature never goes below 50F or above 90F, the fluctuations in PSI should not be more than 3-4 pounds within that temperature range.

I find it extremely annoying having to check my tire pressure more than 3-4 times a year, and I live in the northeast, where temperatures fluctuate over the course of 12 months by nearly 100 degrees F. Maybe I'm spoiled and lazy, but it's also that I'm completely comfortable and I actually like driving with tires that are slightly overinflated. On both my 2013 Rogue and my new 2019 CR-V, I have 17-inch wheels, so increasing pressure simply hardens the tires enough to give me a similar ride to what I'd get with 18-inch or 19-inch wheels. It's true that underinflating will cause excess treadwear on the outer edges and overinflating will cause excess treadwear in the center of the tread pattern, but that's really only a problem if you're putting 125% or more of the recommended PSI in the tires. Adding 7 extra PSI when the recommended amount is 33 PSI is within that 25% extra threshold. And it gives me a huge buffer of how much air I can afford to lose before the TPMS warning light comes on. That's how I can sometimes go four months without checking or adding air. I've never had a problem caused by my lazy overinflation habit. When I picked up the Honda two weeks ago, all the tires were filled by the dealer to 40 psi. And that vehicle calls for 33 psi in the front, but only 30 psi in the back. I don't care. I like extra air. :chuckle:

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Re: 19 Rogue Tire Pressure

Postby casperfun » Tue Dec 03, 2019 6:09 am

If any or all tires are losing air ever 2-3 weeks, their basically flat.

..... or defective.

...... or an incompetent installer.


I’m going with defective.

Probability of all going flat at same time- zero.
Probability of installer doing all 4 tires wrong- zero.

Bad balance or vibration, maybe.

But not losing air on all 4.

So something broke or defective in the tire setup.

I actually drive at 40psi lately.

But because of cold weather, they now settled at 38psi.

Personal preference that’s all.

Well ever since I did a chalk test for the hell of it, even though it don’t apply.

37 rear 40 front gave me my best readings.
It did make my tpms sensors light up soon after and I let a few pounds out.

But recently went straight 40psi with no problems at all.
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Re: 19 Rogue Tire Pressure

Postby datechboss101 » Tue Dec 03, 2019 6:15 am

The tire inflator I carry max out at 40 PSI, which I believe is from its programming. Is there another way I can test the tires for air leaks other than taking them off (I don't own a jack and jack stand atm)? I always request the dealer to overinflate by at least +2 PSI in the tires for the 16 Rogue and 17 MDX every time I take both in for service (apparently dealers are cheaper than indie mechs in my area). If the local dealer won't warranty this issue with proof and evidence in form of pictures with date and time stamp, then its another arm and leg phone call with NissanUSA and a call with Firestone to fix the air leak on all 4 tires.

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Re: 19 Rogue Tire Pressure

Postby casperfun » Tue Dec 03, 2019 6:19 am

datechboss101 wrote:
Tue Dec 03, 2019 6:15 am
The tire inflator I carry max out at 40 PSI, which I believe is from its programming. Is there another way I can test the tires for air leaks other than taking them off (I don't own a jack and jack stand atm)? I always request the dealer to overinflate by at least +2 PSI in the tires for the 16 Rogue and 17 MDX every time I take both in for service (apparently dealers are cheaper than indie mechs in my area). If the local dealer won't warranty this issue with proof and evidence in form of pictures with date and time stamp, then its another arm and leg phone call with NissanUSA and a call with Firestone to fix the air leak on all 4 tires.
Usually:

Mix liquid soap with water in a spray bottle and spray all parts of the tire — tread, sidewalls, the valve stem and opening (with the cap removed), and along the rim on both sides — with the soapy water until you find a spot where bubbles start to form. That's where the air is leaking.

BUT your leak is so slow, it probably won’t help. :gotme

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Re: 19 Rogue Tire Pressure

Postby datechboss101 » Tue Dec 03, 2019 6:57 am

Just got confirmation from the parentals that the tire pressure went back down to 30 PSI again. Looks like there is a definite air leak somewhere on all four tires. Keep in mind, I filled these dang tires on Sunday morning before I left town.

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Re: 19 Rogue Tire Pressure

Postby casperfun » Tue Dec 03, 2019 7:04 am

If it never goes below 30 in Florida, maybe don’t stress it.

After driving for awhile, it should hit the recommended 32-33 psi anyways.

If it goes to 23-25psi, then worry. :poke:

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Re: 19 Rogue Tire Pressure

Postby datechboss101 » Tue Dec 03, 2019 8:09 am

What I don't understand door jam says cold tire pressure should be at 33 PSI, not while driving. Plus I got a huge OCD thing when it comes to vehicles and just the thing with tire pressures being at 30 PSI cold bothers me alot.

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Re: 19 Rogue Tire Pressure

Postby Lone Wolff » Tue Dec 03, 2019 2:32 pm

As was mentioned earlier, the warranty for the tires would fall under tire manufacturer, not Nissan. Most OEM tires are pretty lousy, but not as bad as the symptoms you are describing. Call a couple Tire shops that are authorized Firestone dealers. Any tire shop can check for leaks or punctures. But for defects an authorized dealer for that brand will have the best luck at possibly getting any resolution from corporate.

If no leaks or punctures are found and they still have good tread life, see what the tire shop will give you on a trade-in towards a new set. Main benefit of going that route is from that point forward you would have new tires purchased and installed from the tire shop, and any additional problems would be 100% on their dime to correct. The couple hundred bucks you may lose in the trade may be worth the time saved of no longer having to hassle with them.

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Re: 19 Rogue Tire Pressure

Postby DTASFAB » Tue Dec 03, 2019 6:52 pm

casperfun wrote:
Tue Dec 03, 2019 6:09 am
Probability of all going flat at same time- zero.
I agree fully.
casperfun wrote:
Tue Dec 03, 2019 6:09 am
Probability of installer doing all 4 tires wrong- zero.
Not so sure. There are some drunk employees in certain places. And sober employees who don't give a crap. Or angry people whose ex-wives haven't let them see their kids in years. You never know.

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Re: 19 Rogue Tire Pressure

Postby DTASFAB » Tue Dec 03, 2019 6:54 pm

datechboss101 wrote:
Tue Dec 03, 2019 8:09 am
I got a huge OCD thing when it comes to vehicles and just the thing with tire pressures being at 30 PSI cold bothers me alot.
Welcome to the club! :ohno: :squint: :eek: :spitout:

In over six years, I never drove less than 300 miles on a tank of gas in the Rogue. I also never filled it with less than 13 gallons at a time.

I bought a freakin Honda and the tank is only 14 gallons, but the fuel pump is situated in the tank and can't be allowed to run dry or it will overheat and burn itself out. So the most I can fill at one time is 12, maybe 13 gallons max. This would be fine if I had the 1.5 turbo engine that gets about 30mpg, but I didn't want the turbo. I got the bigger traditional engine that only gets about 25mpg. Do the math. This Honda is going to drive my OCD crazy even worse than the Rogue CVT!!!!! :gotme

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Re: 19 Rogue Tire Pressure

Postby datechboss101 » Tue Dec 03, 2019 7:06 pm

So I finally got a Nissan dealer that said to bring it in and they will do the soap water test and few other tests as mentioned earlier in the thread for free, said the service manager himself due to the low mileage. The dealer near home has phone issues, where it sends me to every other department except the service department. So hopefully this should clear my concerns of the tire pressure issue. I still got a plate full of factory faults with this vehicle.

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Re: 19 Rogue Tire Pressure

Postby datechboss101 » Tue Dec 03, 2019 7:14 pm

DTASFAB wrote:
Tue Dec 03, 2019 6:54 pm
datechboss101 wrote:
Tue Dec 03, 2019 8:09 am
I got a huge OCD thing when it comes to vehicles and just the thing with tire pressures being at 30 PSI cold bothers me alot.
Welcome to the club! :ohno: :squint: :eek: :spitout:

In over six years, I never drove less than 300 miles on a tank of gas in the Rogue. I also never filled it with less than 13 gallons at a time.

I bought a freakin Honda and the tank is only 14 gallons, but the fuel pump is situated in the tank and can't be allowed to run dry or it will overheat and burn itself out. So the most I can fill at one time is 12, maybe 13 gallons max. This would be fine if I had the 1.5 turbo engine that gets about 30mpg, but I didn't want the turbo. I got the bigger traditional engine that only gets about 25mpg. Do the math. This Honda is going to drive my OCD crazy even worse than the Rogue CVT!!!!! :gotme
I run my 2016 dry most of the time, as i know its limits and I push its boundries, but I never pushed a Honda, maybe its due to sentimental values I have with the brand. But I did found out that the near leather material attracts a ton of dirt and grime.

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Re: 19 Rogue Tire Pressure

Postby casperfun » Tue Dec 03, 2019 8:14 pm

I use to play that game, trying to get every last mile out of the gas tank, until I read it somewhere that this could ruin your fuel system.

So I stopped.

Little did I know, I had like TWO orange fuel bars left one time and the damn rogue would not start.

I then find out my tank was empty. :facepalm:

Dumb crappy inaccurate fuel gauge.

So the thing I was trying to avoid; happens to me anyway, and my personal ocd kicks in with all these thoughts of maybe ruining my fuel system.

Thank god all is well.

I think that was the only time in my life I ran out of gas, which was fortunately in my garage! :wavey:

I also never refill after the pump stops, trying to get every last drop of gas into the tank, as this is bad too.

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Re: 19 Rogue Tire Pressure

Postby datechboss101 » Wed Dec 04, 2019 10:38 am

casperfun wrote:
Tue Dec 03, 2019 8:14 pm
I use to play that game, trying to get every last mile out of the gas tank, until I read it somewhere that this could ruin your fuel system.

So I stopped.

Little did I know, I had like TWO orange fuel bars left one time and the damn rogue would not start.

I then find out my tank was empty. :facepalm:

Dumb crappy inaccurate fuel gauge.

So the thing I was trying to avoid; happens to me anyway, and my personal ocd kicks in with all these thoughts of maybe ruining my fuel system.

Thank god all is well.

I think that was the only time in my life I ran out of gas, which was fortunately in my garage! :wavey:

I also never refill after the pump stops, trying to get every last drop of gas into the tank, as this is bad too.
It actually almost happened to me once. That needle was near the 0 mark on the cluster and I was asking all my friends for a jerry can so I can leave my Rogue in a parking lot and have a buddy drive me to another gas station to fill up a few gals, but no one even knew what a Jerrycan was. I was glad to know I had 0.1 gals remaining when I filled up (the station close to uni didn't accept cards that day for some reason).


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