17X7 +40 OK?

[slpr240]

Just like title states! Will that offset be alright or no? Sorry for the dumb question I just don't know much about offset yet! Thanx for any help!

[Red coupe]

That would be a pretty bad choice if you want a wheel that looks good...it also may have a problem clearing some springs, the stock wheel has an offset of 40, so basicly the wheel would be half an inch further out, and half an inch closer to the spring...I think most people would go with some were around +30 or +35? but Im not so much into rims, and wheel fitment.

If your going after market wheels why not get at least a 7.5 or 8inch ?

[Kenrik]

17x7 +40 is 8mm further out then stock and 4mm closer to the strut. looks better then stock but it could be more flush.

[Red coupe]

What are you talking about kenrik?if it maintains the same offset as stock how could the change in clearance for the fenter and shock be diffrent numbers?m Offset is how many mm the mounting point is offset from the center line of the wheel.... so adding width to a wheel with the same offset adds simply extends the wheel half of the increase in width towards the fender and towards the strut...

its 1 in wider, so half an inch times 25.4 mm per inch = 12.7 mm extended towards both the fender, and the strut...

I just checked on the suspension forums offset calculator and it said Inner Clearance:(the inside of the wheel to the strut housing):13mm LESS

Outer Position: (position of the outside edge of the wheel): EXTEND an extra 13mm

[Kenrik]

[shayrgob]

What are you talking about kenrik?if it maintains the same offset as stock how could the change in clearance for the fenter and shock be diffrent numbers?m Offset is how many mm the mounting point is offset from the center line of the wheel.... so adding width to a wheel with the same offset adds simply extends the wheel half of the increase in width towards the fender and towards the strut...

its 1 in wider, so half an inch times 25.4 mm per inch = 12.7 mm extended towards both the fender, and the strut...

I just checked on the suspension forums offset calculator and it said Inner Clearance:(the inside of the wheel to the strut housing):13mm LESS

Outer Position: (position of the outside edge of the wheel): EXTEND an extra 13mm

so why does it extend to the fender and to the strut? Why doesn't it just add 1 inch to the strut? Here's a pic to help you understand what I'm trying to understand. thanks

[koukimon]

that drawing just confused me to death thanks alot

[Red coupe]

worst picture ever.... the offset isn't the same as back spacing...it is not a measurement from one end of the rim or the other, its the offset from the center point of the rim.

So a wheel with a 0 offset that is 5 inches wide has 2.5 inches on either side of the hub, adding an inch and its still mounted in the middle of the rim, so 3 inches on both sides...same is true of any other offset, in this case the wheel is mounted 40mm off from having the wheel mount to the hub right in the middle of it. with the same offset its mounted the same distance from the middle point, so as rim width increases for a given offset clearance changes equally on both sides....

[nismofly]

wow kenrik...just...wow

heres something that might help you out:

http://marksink.com/tire_wheel_offset/offset.html

hey, look at that! red coupe had the numbers right from the start!

the x7 +40 will clear with a 215/45 tire, but thats about all it does, theres definately better choices out there

if the ones your looking at dont come in any wider/lower offset sizes, you need to look at different wheels

[naed240sx]

17x7 +40 is 8mm further out then stock and 4mm closer to the strut. looks better then stock but it could be more flush.

Kenrick, just shut up. You have absolutely no clue what you are talking about. All you do is make threads bragging about how cool you are and how you are moving into "advanced drifting", and give completely uneducated responses in other people's threads.

Bottom line: Grow up, wait for your balls to drop, and maybe read a book about how to measure stuff. Wait another 5 years, then begin posting again. How do you expect people to trust you about battery relocation when you can't even figure out wheel offset?

Ohh, and It's really cute how you just throw up a crappy picture instead of admitting that you are full of shi t.



On a side note, I was going to repond with the correct information for this thread, but I see that redcoupe and nismofly already nailed it.
Modified by naed240sx at 5:08 PM 4/19/2006

[240sHorTy]

This thread is hilarious. I inherited a car with 18x7.5 +45 and it is so sunk it is embarrassing that I'm gonna have to blow my refund check on new wheels and tires. Mine stick out 1.35 mm further than a 17x7 +40 will, and I'm telling you it is utterly appalling from a flushness standpoint. Please, I beg you. For the love of God do not do it. You will probably cut on yourself later if you do.

I think I've said my piece.

-Steve

Here's some proof (these are on an s14 though):
Modified by 240sHorTy at 5:45 PM 4/19/2006

[GhostDriver]

Whoa there...

[Kenrik]

Kenrick, just shut up. You have absolutely no clue what you are talking about. All you do is make threads bragging about how cool you are and how you are moving into "advanced drifting", and give completely uneducated responses in other people's threads.

Bottom line: Grow up, wait for your balls to drop, and maybe read a book about how to measure stuff. Wait another 5 years, then begin posting again. How do you expect people to trust you about battery relocation when you can't even figure out wheel offset?

Ohh, and It's really cute how you just throw up a crappy picture instead of admitting that you are full of shi t.



On a side note, I was going to repond with the correct information for this thread, but I see that redcoupe and nismofly already nailed it.

Modified by naed240sx at 5:08 PM 4/19/2006

How about you STFU and go over to club240... where the other $%^& hang out. I did use the wheel offset calculator I just entered in the wrong numbers by mistake.

[naed240sx]

How about you STFU and go over to club240... where the other $%^& hang out. I did use the wheel offset calculator I just entered in the wrong numbers by mistake.

HAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAH. so you used the calculator, but somehow failed to notice that it gave you two different clearance numbers, even though you were using stock offset? I don't even use the calculator, because I can figure it out in my head. It's not rocket science.

[ddgsxr504]

Wow this thread got interesting quick. Bottom line is yes you can use a 17X7 with 40 offset. You will still clear the factory or after market strut lower spring perch as long as you use a 215 width tire and nothing wider. Now if you get some long wheel studs and a spacer then wider tires are ok. If you have coilovers then no worries at all. Red Coupe and NismoFly are correct in saying that you will gain all your new width towards the inside of the wheel but not enough to cause any concern.

[Red coupe]

Wow this thread got interesting quick.

Red Coupe and NismoFly are correct in saying that you will gain all your new width towards the inside of the wheel ...

But that's not what we said Again: the placement of the center of the wheel with respect to the hub remains constant so an increase in rim width is divided equally between strut clearance and fender clearance....

[Eikon]

Geez you guys.... it's like watching the special olympics. One of you is bound to win... but in the end... your still retarded.

slpr240..17x7' 40 offset is marginal at best. 40 offset on a 7" wide is really more of a front wheel drive car fitment.

I have them on my car right now because I got a sweet deal and I plan on upgrading later on.

Here's a pic... not really a good profile shot for looking at the wheels, but I think you will get an idea.

The look OK. Not great... there a little sunken... but OK. Nobody is going to point and laugh at you. But, noone is going to compliment you on flushness either.

If you have a choice, get an offset closer to say.. 30 or less. That will look nice. But, if you have a deal on 40's... you should be ok with them.

I have no issues with rubbing or anything like that on my stock suspension.

[sensibleS13driver]

Red Coupe and NismoFly are correct in saying that you will gain all your new width towards the inside of the wheel but not enough to cause any concern.

NO! NO! NO!

[rpd240]

Don't want to jack a thread, but what is the OEM wheel size and offset? What offset would be good for 18x8 and 18x8.5? Thanks!

[ddgsxr504]

NO! NO! NO!

Sorry I wrote that down wrong. Since offset is measured from the center of the wheel then you will be gaining width on both sides.

[slpr240]

These are the wheels i want by the way they have them in 17x8 +40 but not with a 4x114.3 pattern! I really like them though so i hope they will fit ok! Thanx for all the help guys!

[teddy]

These are the wheels i want by the way they have them in 17x8 +40 but not with a 4x114.3 pattern! I really like them though so i hope they will fit ok! Thanx for all the help guys!

Eikon posted up a picture of exactly what a 17x7" +40 wheel will look like. If you're ok with that look, that's fine. But it's going to be sunk in and look a little odd.

[shayrgob]

Eikon posted up a picture of exactly what a 17x7" +40 wheel will look like. If you're ok with that look, that's fine. But it's going to be sunk in and look a little odd.

I think he posted a pic of 17 X 7's on his car.

And thanks a lot everyone for clearing this up for us. I do want to thank you guys for not flaming us too much like other 240 boards (ie zilvia). haha

[Eikon]

I think he posted a pic of 17 X 7's on his car.

And thanks a lot everyone for clearing this up for us. I do want to thank you guys for not flaming us too much like other 240 boards (ie zilvia). haha

Yeah.. I posted 17x7 because that was his oringal question.

The latest post he made was listing 17x8. The extra inch in width of the wheel overall should help with that sunken feeling. I would think he will still be ok with clearance on the inside, and it should be a little closer to flush that the 7".

As for flaming... for some reason the vets seem to flame each other rather than the newbs..???

But, welcome to NICO! I think you'll find that the atmosphere is a lot more mature here than other forums. O'Doyle err... I mean... NICO RULES!!!!