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Glen Beck wrote:http://www.glennbeck.com/conte...id=89

This "Sarah Palin is inexperienced" argument is infuriating. The media is just awful in their handling of this. They say nothing about Obama's experience except to call it something the McCain campaign is "using" as a political attack. Yet, with Palin, it's somehow valid.

Let's look at this a little closer: One would think that Barack Obama believed he was qualified to be president the day he announced he was running for it...right?

If my math is correct (and it's possible it's not since I am having yet another flare up of SPS):

Barack Obama was in office 767 days when he was announced as a presidential candidate.

Sarah Palin was in office 635 days when she was announced as a vice presidential candidate.

The difference in their experience level is 132 days. How much experience did Barack get in those all important 19 weeks? I'm sure...tons and tons.

If McCain/Palin actually win the election, she would take office on January 20th, 2009---with 24 days more ""experience" than Obama when he announced. At which point, yes, she'd be ONE heartbeat away from the presidency---while Obama would be ZERO heartbeats away. We should also note that Ross Perot got 19% of the vote with zero days of experience, not to mention all the military leaders that have become president without any "experience" as it is so conveniently defined today.

Why is this happening? Why is Obama the messiah, and Palin a joke to the media?

3 reasons:

1) Not the change they want: You see--they've been telling you we need change--but not THAT kind of change!!! Also translated as typical liberal bias.

2) Harvard vs Mom: Obama is smart, Palin is "just" a mom. He went to Harvard, therefore he's qualified. She only went to the University of Idaho! She majored in communication/journalism and minored in political science. (Communication and political science! What a crazy combination of attributes to be vice president!) While Obama majored in AWESOMENESS!. He can organize communities, as evidenced by his time as a community organizer! (All of Chicago's problems have been solved by organization.) All she can do is fish (and run a business/town/state).

3) Small town factor: The truth here is that the media doesn't consider Alaska a state. I hate to say it, but it's true. They think running Alaska is akin to running a zoo. "Isn't that the place with all those caribou?" They also don't think small town life prepares you for anything outside of bake sales and soccer/hockey practice. To be honest, if it wasn't for Chicago, they wouldn't consider Illinois a state either.

This is the media at their most obvious. Keep lapping up those Keith Olbermann talking points guys.

Embarrassing.
Soooo... Experience is NOT an issue when it comes to the Presidential Candidate of the United States, but it IS when it comes to the Vice Presidential Candidate. I guess, as Glenn points out, how much more experience can one gain in an extra 132 days?

I also love how Obama takes credit for working with d!ck Lugar on nuclear disarmament, seeing is that Sam Nunn and d!ck Lugar had been working on this for some 12 years before Obama became a Senator.



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Also, hasn't Obama not really been doing his real job as Senator (that presumably - I don't know - he is still getting paid for)? Hasn't he been out campaigning for a large part of this year (and some of last year)?

Are the numbers different if that is true?

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As I indicated in a different thread, if the Democrats make the election about her the Democrats will lose.

A subtle challenge to how she would handle a 9/11 situation might be o.k. in the debate, and Biden can go after her on foreign policy, but they need to be aware that she will be well coached. He could challenge her on how she could function without the line-item veto, too.

The only way Obama wins is to get back on message, adding specifics and showing that the race is a referendum on Republican leadership (or lack thereof). Not generalized rhetoric; he needs specifics.

McCain wins if he makes it about the individuals in the race and continues to distance himself from the Republican establishment. He must be loving all this personal publicity about Palin that doesn't amount to a hill of beans when it comes to running the country.

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Steve,That is a pretty fair assessment. I would point out that Biden in a debate has a few things going against him. 1. He now looks like part of the establishment and the good old boy network.2. He doesnt always think things through when he says them.3. There may be political fall out for bashing a female opponent. 4. Palin is the only one in the race with real executive experience.bud

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szhosain wrote:Also, hasn't Obama not really been doing his real job as Senator (that presumably - I don't know - he is still getting paid for)? Hasn't he been out campaigning for a large part of this year (and some of last year)?

Are the numbers different if that is true?

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Obama IS still doing his job as senator. I know this because my Dad recently penned some environmental legislation that Obama backed. They met PERSONALLY and it was unscheduled, and Obama knew nearly as much about the bill as my Dad did (and my Dad wrote the thing). Aides were present, but they were largely silent, and he knew more about the matter at hand than any of his aides. It was not major legislation, it concerned the discharge of wastewater from small recreational craft, but if he can pay *that much* attention to that, then he can quite obviously multitask.

In case you're wondering, he was backing it because Illinois has a big boating economy. Dad also got backing from California, Florida, and other states with large recreational boating economies.

I will also add that this bill REVERSED a victory won by a far-left enviro lobby group and returned a sense of moderation to the issue. Obama stood up FOR allowing recreational craft to dump wastewater because it was sensible bill. (rule should only apply to commercial craft, rec craft don't dump a material enough amount to be subject to invasive legislation)

The bill passed the house and the senate UNANIMOUSLY. He put his weight behind a piece of legislation that went COUNTER to the far-left enviro interests during a Presidential race. This is a bill that SHOULD have been prime picken's for the GOP, but he got behind it because he knew it made sense. That takes cajones.

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Okay, I stand corrected. Thanks!

But, I still ask (no knowledge) whether he has been away from Washington - campaigning - for many, many days when the Senate was sitting this year, right?

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Cold_Zero wrote:
Soooo... Experience is NOT an issue when it comes to the Presidential Candidate of the United States, but it IS when it comes to the Vice Presidential Candidate. I guess, as Glenn points out, how much more experience can one gain in an extra 132 days?

I also love how Obama takes credit for working with d!ck Lugar on nuclear disarmament, seeing is that Sam Nunn and d!ck Lugar had been working on this for some 12 years before Obama became a Senator.
Actually it was the republicans who circled the wagons and started the "experience" argument when they choose Methuselah for their candidate. Now, after they spend 6 months touting the importance of experience, they choose a PTA mom as their candidate. This flies in the face of their experience argument and leaves me thinking how deeply the irony burns.

Everyone forgets the scenario that is so clear to the dems.If McCain succumbs to his age or disease, then Palin is absolutely unqualified to lead this country. No one can seriously (meaning with a straight face) calls her qualified to lead this nation as POTUS. Calling her qualified is the wrong card to play.

Should Biden become POTUS, he brings 30+ years of national experience. So as long as we're comparing VP to VP, it's a slam for the dems.

Obama has something Palin doesn't. An education. The proven ability to learn. The ability to understand that thing called a constitution. Not to mention the ability to lead. People follow a good leader like Obama.

And Obama doesn't believe in "God's War" as Palin called it.


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szhosain wrote:Okay, I stand corrected. Thanks!

But, I still ask (no knowledge) whether he has been away from Washington - campaigning - for many, many days when the Senate was sitting this year, right?

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I have no doubt that this is the case, as I'm sure it is the case with any Senator who is running for President.

I looked around to see if anyone had posted info on whether Obama or McCain had either been much more active in the Senate than the other, but I found zero information.

If anyone can find this info, please post it up.

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zer...80841

Already did.

John McCainhttp://projects.washingtonpost...00303/

Barack Obamahttp://projects.washingtonpost...00167/

You can see what votes they missed, how they voted on Legislation and how they voted in line with their party.bud

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Oh and its the Washington Post's site, so no one can cry foul for it being some "vast right wing conspiracy."bud


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