???13.6 1/4 ???

[b16sareoverrated]

one day when i was at dragway 42 in west salem Ohio i saw a red s13 hatch run a 13.6. he had slics but when he popped the hood it seemed like a practically bone stock ka 24de besides and air filter and i think he had a header and full exhaust as well. the dude was telling people all he had done was an air filter... wtf. i know this may not seem very logical to many of you but thats what i saw. the dude was with some other guy who has a green turbo mx6 v6. i was pretty dissapointed in my crx which that day only ran a 14.8 ,maybe thats why i bought a 240 .if anyone knows who im talking about i would like to know what all he has done, seems pretty beastly for what i could tell was done.

[NateDogg]

NAAAAAAAWWWWWWWSSSS!! Probably a 75 shot.

[evotech240sx]

just like what nate said, the only other answer that i can see as well is that he is juiced up.

[InsanityInc]

or it had substantial internal modifications and he was using race gas.

[justmerging]

I don't see why a High Comp KA on race gas wouldn't do it but it damn sure wasn't stock. There are stock sr's that don't run in the 13's.

Stock + 13 sec =

[b16sareoverrated]

yeah he just made it look stock on porpose to surprize people, still had nice finish on the valve cover and everything, looked factory. probly did have nitrous on it if nothing else, still a pretty decent ride though.

[mackdaddy240]

If he didnt have N2O he would have had to have had crazy high compression 12.5:1 + and probably some unstreetable cams, did you notice him not being abe to idle?AND it would have to be more then a 75 shot unless it was direct port but you couldnt miss those lines.

[AustinSilvia]

any amount of things could be done to that engine. can't judge a car by it's (valve) cover. he could have, for instance, ported and polished the head, polished the intake manifold, done just about anything to the stroke of the engine, bored it out, had larger stock replacement injectors, lots of hidden fuel managment stuff, using racing fuel. in addition to this just because something looks stock doesn't mean it is... for instance there are a lot of parts from other higher end nissans that can be made to work on the 240sx (mafs, brakes, diff, etc). anyway yeah so that guy was lying. the best i have ever seen anyone run a bone stock 240sx at the track was my brother.... 15.69 in the quarter.

[b16sareoverrated]

i couldnt notice any nitrous setup so it was probally hidden , since he was running slicks it probally had a limited slip of some sort. i know for a fact that 200 wheel hp in a 2000 lb car would run low 13s if not high 12's on slics. so if it was a bult bottom end in the car say 11.5:1 with a 75 shot that might put it around 220rwhp or more. that is the minimum power that you can run slics on, otherwise they slow you down.

[:: orion ::]

that is the minimum power that you can run slics on, otherwise they slow you down...

Not true.

Slicks will always help lower a 1/4 mile time, even with 100hp.

- Brian

[InsanityInc]

Not true.

Slicks will always help lower a 1/4 mile time, even with 100hp.

- Brian

Not really. If you can launch high enough with street tires to not bog and not spin at all, slicks will slow you down because the extra force of friction isn't helping your acceleration any at the start, and once you get going it actually slows you down. However, you'd probably have to have somewhere around 100hp or less for that to happen. Same reason why you wouldn't put 295s on a 100hp car.
Modified by InsanityInc at 6:12 PM 12/20/2004

[250sx]

Well, if you can launch high enough with slicks to not bog and not spin at all then the street tires would have slowed you down. when you get slicks you have to drive different just like getting a light flywheel.

[b16sareoverrated]

actually for the innitial takeoff, be it slics or street tires it is imoportant to keep your engine in its powerband . basically it is best to slip the clutch between 3000 and 3500 rpms untill the car gains some sort of momentum before fully letting the clucth grip and flooring it. basically you bog your behind off when you try and not spin the tires. i can drive a front wheel drive car to its ultimate potential and consistantly on street tires, its all about technique.

[b16sareoverrated]

i saw something interesting on tv the other night, it was a vw beetle buildoff. they were using crate motors that supposedly dynoed 160 at the crank. on the dyno they pulled 130 whp and they ran slics. off the line they would jump pretty hard but almost instantly the rpms would fall to almost nothing. the best run was a 14.4 and the other driver just sucked, cars were fully gutted, probally 1300 lbs or so. if you think almost pulling a wheelie then making your car fall on its face will make you run faster than i will agree that slics always help but even after the car is moving the slics will have enough friction to take away acceleration with low hp.

[250sx]

yeah, ive seen alot of cars fall flat as soon as they jump the line especially with small engines. Kinda weird because a heavy flywheel will cure that but hurt the topend. but thats the feel part of driving, you dont always have to dump the clutch you could slip it a little.