12's all motor in a G? no NOS

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Check out the NICO drag thread.....a Z runnin high 12's all motor. I haven't dragged my car with current mods, but I can hang with M3's just fine. I guess I need to get some slicks and take her to the track! Anyone know the altitude difference of Oklahoma vs S. Carolina by chance? I wonder if I can break into the high 12's? Hummm.... I know the G is heavier, but I'll strip her down as much as I can.

zerothread/166415Matt_2036 is the Z owner.

Any tips Gwoods or other good drag racers? I haven't drag raced in awhile.....since my 12sec 66 Chevelle Malibu about 10 years ago. (Well, I did drag my R6 a few years ago, but still different from a G)


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His pulley's helped for sure..

Gwood will be in here I'm sure to give you altitude info. and pointers..

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The biggest thing you want is barametric pressure. You know how some mornings your driving to work and your car seems a lot faster then the day before? Thats cause there is high barometric pressure. Anything over 30.2 is good. If you find 30.5 barometric pressure you are going to go really really fast.

Find your track and its elevation. Use weather channel to get the weather for the track zip code and use the two below links to find out the correction factor. The Wahi site is very generous the CSG site is more realistic.

http://wahiduddin.net/calc/calc_da.htmh ... pcalc.html

The biggest challenge for any racer at the track is traction. 99% of the race is the first 60 feet.

You need slicks or drag radials. Nitto 555r's are the best deal. They get gooey and sticky when heated (spun) and they last 10,000-15,000 miles when used for racing and driving to and from the track. I had a set I bought used that I used on my Ram for 3 years and then sold, they still were not worn out! Discount tire sells them online with free shipping through ebay. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...ZWDVWMickey Thompson makes the stickiest drag radial but you'll probably break a half shaft if you used them. A little wheel spin is not a bad thing it keeps you from breaking other parts.

Leave at about 3,000 rpm when the middle yellow light comes on. This give me consistant .2-.3 reaction times.

COMPLETELY IGNORE THE CAR NEXT TO YOU. This is the most important thing. I have sat there and watched the guy next to me leave so many times

Just have fun, I have been drag racing every month or so for the past 6 years practice makes perfect. Drag racing is addictive and I am hooked!!

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Man that time on the 350z looks fishy

I don't think you'll hit 12's without spending BIG $$ for all engine power (no FI).

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Those times look dead on to me. Cams + tuning = big power early.

I think he is legit and the guy is in South Carolina. His track is only 350 feet above sea level. Real easy to get crazy positive DA http://www.carolinadragway.com/preview/about.php

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Thx for the info/links/and tips gwoods! I for the most part have the same setup the Z dude does, minus the rear end and my cams are 260 10.9mm instead of 280. But I've got a few other things as well like larger TB, LW Flywheel, and Clutch. But like you said, if I get some good slicks, I do have a chance to crack some axle's with a hard launch. And I'm sure my clutch could get the power to the rear pretty good, so that's definitely something to worry about. I'm curious to know what his dyno #'s are...humm. I also thought his numbers were potentially fishy, but at the same time, if almost stock G's are running high 13's, then I don't see why some hp adders, tuning, and slicks couldn't knock a second or more off of the times. Well.....guess I'll see when I get back home from work! (I'm just brainstorming at the moment... ) It'll be a few months before I can get to the track But I will be having some good times when I do! I may break some half shafts while I'm at it, but luckily they're easy as hell to replace haha! And I may have to get some 400+hp ones for when I go turbo someday (single remote)!

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Unless your trying to tune a turbo or supercharger dyno's are kindof useless. The dyno operator can make the number whatever you want it to be by adding/removing resistance. Drag racing is a better indecator of real world performance.

In Feb 07 my 5200 lb Hemi Ram dynoed at 269 rwhp. A bone stock ram dynoed at 258 rwhp right after my run LOL. At the track I ran a 14.05 at 98 mph the stock ram was running mid 15's. So 11 more hp took of 1.5 seconds?

In July 07 I destroyed my clutches and steels in my transmission. The other trucks with transmissions failing the way mine did were all dyno'ing at 330-380 rwhp and running similar times in the 1/4 mile.

Dynos are for tuning

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I don't know Jeff...the VQ35 doesn't have much extra power to spare without stroking. I've heard that cams don't give you much HP...maybe 20ish. It's not like a big V8 that can be tuned up with aftermarket goodies.

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who knows for sure.... probably just the original poster

His times look spot on to me. I think he is running in unreal perfect weather at a track already only 3** feet above sea level. You all in the east coast have the best racing weather in the spring

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^^JWT claims 16hp+ on the one's I have. http://www.crawfordz.com/jwts1camset.htmbut I do agree, it will be tough to achieve, but I think it can be done....especially at the right track (sea level wise), good track conditions, and some sticky slicks. One way to find out.....ButtDyno FTW! HAHA

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Wait a sec... I'm in Florida.. elevation like +5 above sea level...

I have 275s in the rear, a intake and a spacer..

Hmm I wonder what I would run in the 1/4th?

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You would run faster then if you were in Phoenix

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Kenrik wrote:Wait a sec... I'm in Florida.. elevation like +5 above sea level...

I have 275s in the rear, a intake and a spacer..

Hmm I wonder what I would run in the 1/4th?
One way to find out! I'm sure you know how to drive pretty well since you drift and autocross/track race occasionally. We need to get more G owners, especially the ones who like to street race....to get some time slips of what their car and their skillz can really do! Maybe sticky a G35 1/4mile times thread? with a full list of mods, track location, and weather that particular day? That would be cool...

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yall should just move over here in the southeast. better racing and we could all help each other with stuff! DO IT!!!

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White guy, black wife.... no thanks

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phil4watching wrote:yall should just move over here in the southeast. better racing and we could all help each other with stuff! DO IT!!!


I'm down for that! I've actually been looking for some work out that way. My GF and I are both beach bums at heart, but we ain't got no dang beaches her en Okiehoma Hell, I might just say screw it and start my own business down there and live that way. My girl's a CPA so I'm sure she can find work, and I can just have her handle all my books/records keeping .....I knew there was a reason I've been keeping her around ......"I love you babe if you're reading this!"

....but ya! I'm totally kewl with Florida! now Georgia....I dunno

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gwoods wrote:White guy, black wife.... no thanks
lmao

With enough bolt ons and proper tune, the vq can easily run 12's.

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^^That's what I'm hoping for! I may do a CF or aluminum driveshaft and possibly even a different rear end....then I should have no problems hitting high 12's all motor.

I guess it's just the principal of the thing....I think any street legal VQ should be able to run 12's NA, then when I go FI, 11's will be a bonus!


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