10k to spend...

[LiveWire401]

I started with roughly $10,000 to jump into this 240sx project. Already settled on a 95' 240sx for $3500 and the remaining money needs to go into the car somewhere. Was pretty set on getting a SR motor just wondering where to go from there. Thanks for the help and ideas...

[KDashy]

Suspension, brakes, wheels, tires. That should eat up the rest of the money.

[4felix20]

upgrade and tune the SR real nice, then suspension!

[Doomed2Walk]

Becareful. With getting the SR can you afford all the hidden costs? Let's say you can get a red top clip for $2500, if you won't be doing the install yourself add $1500, then front mount $800, fuel pump $120, boost gauge $80+, intake $150, exhaust $450+. Those are just the big items, don't forget new belts, mounts, fluids, plugs, and if you want a turbo timer and boost controller. If you shop around and keep on budget you should be able to get a running SR with some bolt ons. You may want to fix any problems there are with the car so you know you're building on a solid foundation. Then I'd say upgrade brakes, suspension, if it's not a SE maybe a 5 lug conversion, wheels, tires, then with left over money decide on what you want to do to make power. If you want a SR, you can get minor things like the Z32 fuel filter + fuel pump you can use even if you get the SR. And if you have the patience, just source parts together. Don't dive into something you think you can't handle. But good luck with your project!

[yelnatsch517]

I think it would be best to get wheels, brakes, suspension, exhaust and a bolt on turbo for the KA. If you get the SR, for $6500, whats left of the 10k after the car, you would end up with an illegal engine that will run slightly faster than stock.

[Nismo_Freak]

I think it would be best to get wheels, brakes, suspension, exhaust and a bolt on turbo for the KA. If you get the SR, for $6500, whats left of the 10k after the car, you would end up with an illegal engine that will run slightly faster than stock.

Versus an illegal engine that is slightly faster than stock?

The Greddy KA-T is only legal in California because of CARB certification.

CARB = California Air Research Board

Greddy states they are 50-state legal... I happen to be a Texas state inspector and CARB certification is meerly a tiny sticker on the engine bay I get to look at while I fail your car. Just because something floats in Cali doesn't mean it will float everywhere.

[MainEvent212]

LOL Nismo Freak? you're a safety inspector!?

you're wrong....soo wronggg...

how could you fail people knowing what you've got at home?

[nismofly]

haha

now im scared

[BuudWeizErr]

11 out of 10 people with an opinion worth listening to agree;

SR is the best suited motor for S chassis.

[iwantawd]

im a dsm guy so could you explain why? if i got a 240 i would definitly turbo the ka. the cost of getting a SR and then building it is rediculous. that same money would make a killer 2.4liter. i just dont understand you guys since i have no info on the differences that make the SR better. ive heard that the KA is a "truck motor" or something like that. i dont except that as a good excuse at all. please explain.

[Anand]

give me the money....

[Dookie]

SR valvetrain = hydraulic lifters = bad at high revs

KA valvetrain = solid lifters = good for high revs, damn that long stroke

but SR + tomei solid lifter conversion = high, safe revs

Just some word of thought.

[Florida240sx]

Buy a 2nd ka cheap build it up then turbo it.

[iwantawd]

SR valvetrain = hydraulic lifters = bad at high revs

KA valvetrain = solid lifters = good for high revs, damn that long stroke

but SR + tomei solid lifter conversion = high, safe revs

Just some word of thought.

eh, with the extra .4 liters i wouldnt care as long as it can rev to 7500 or so. if these trannies are anything like dsm trannies you dont want to rev to high anyways.

[BuudWeizErr]

im a dsm guy so could you explain why? if i got a 240 i would definitly turbo the ka. the cost of getting a SR and then building it is rediculous. that same money would make a killer 2.4liter. i just dont understand you guys since i have no info on the differences that make the SR better. ive heard that the KA is a "truck motor" or something like that. i dont except that as a good excuse at all. please explain.

you wouldn't understand. and i'm too lazy to make you.if you just want to drag race then it doesn't matter what motor you use. just make up your own mind. and if you want to drag race, stick with your DSM. you'll go faster for cheaper and launch better.

[iwantawd]

what in gods name are you talking about man. im not getting a 240, i said if i did, and my choice of engine has nothing to do with drag racing. even with drifting or autocrossing, having more torque available from the KA would be more beneficial.sorry you are too lazy

[BuudWeizErr]

what in gods name are you talking about man. im not getting a 240, i said if i did, and my choice of engine has nothing to do with drag racing. even with drifting or autocrossing, having more torque available from the KA would be more beneficial.sorry you are too lazy

hahaha.. i thought you were the thread starter.but in response to your comment, tehre are other things to look at than just torque.

[yelnatsch517]

Versus an illegal engine that is slightly faster than stock?

The Greddy KA-T is only legal in California because of CARB certification.

CARB = California Air Research Board

Greddy states they are 50-state legal... I happen to be a Texas state inspector and CARB certification is meerly a tiny sticker on the engine bay I get to look at while I fail your car. Just because something floats in Cali doesn't mean it will float everywhere.

What are you talking about? The SR is illegal no matter where you are in the United States. He has a better chance going with the KA in terms of legality. And yes, Cali has the strictest automotive laws in US, so if it passes here, it will pass in any other state, ie. whatever inspection you guys do we do also and more. At least it should unless he finds someone like you who has something against turbo KA's.

[iwantawd]

hahaha.. i thought you were the thread starter.but in response to your comment, tehre are other things to look at than just torque.

ok since hes not bringing up any points whatsoever someone else care to jump in. i am under the impression that the only reasons everyone sweats the SR is because people dont know how to build a turbo motor and those are readily available. of course they are also JDM which is bling bling to a lot of people too.

[240Kuminachu]

JDM tyte yo, thats all that matters, I think fads has alot to do with it, just like honduh's, We all know this. Some people dont know how to put a motor together, most pay someone to do it, I was one at an erlier time. I was one of the first in the Northwest to have an SR, the first in Idaho and western washington. Its become a fad, like everything else, its rather sad.

[iwantawd]

i have to say thats pretty ****ty then if its really just a fad and no one can come up with good solid reasons to choose the SR over a DET. ive seen so many people tell others to get an SR because its turbo and its "better" and people buy into it even though they are spending a lot more money for it.

[ceniack]

one good thing about the SR is there is a higher avaliablity of aftermarket parts. it is a square engine (meaning the bore and stroke are the same), the KA has a longer stroke i believe so you can't rev it as high without alot of work.

SR is a little lighter than the KA since it is aluminum. compression is already turbo friendly, so you wouldn't have to rebuild it to run higher boost.

[iwantawd]

im looking beyond the lets do whatever i can to get a turbo on the car as cheap as possible crowd. im looking toward the people with goals of 300, 400, or more hp/tq. to the point where both would be rebuilt and everything is equal. obviously stock for stock the SR is a better engine but who cares about stock? sure it revs higher but i would take an engine that can rev to 7500rpms, spool a large turbo quite a bit faster, and provide much more low end grunt (more fun and better for daily driving) than one that can rev to 8500 or 9000 rpms whatever it is. who holds a drift at 9000 rpms anyways? that will blow street cars up real quick. the higher revving engine would be more beneficial to drag racers which i dont see a lot of you guys doing.

[Silvia007]

I don't care what anyone says, Fad or because it's Cheaper. I love my SR.

One of the main reasons I picked the SR is because of the aftermarket support. You can get anything you want for it where as the KA, a lot of it's parts are not that redily available if it even exist at all.

Just because I picked the SR don't mean the SR is better then the KA or the KA better then the SR. They are both great motors, no matter which engine you pick, it's not the wrong choice. If you have the money, any engine in the entire world woops ***. Just do what you want.

[iwantawd]

the availability of parts is something i talked about with my friend last night.the only difference is more companies make the same parts for the SR. you can still get everything you need for a KA.major things you would need for a build... rods, pistons, manifold, turbo, exhaust, fuel system, tuning. all of these are easily attainable for each motor.you're right both motors are great but a lot of people dont see it that way and im wondering why.i think it has been answered though, jdm hype and lack of knowledge.

[l3ooherS14]

You dont have to always go Sr. You can clean up your Ka and if you want the extra hp you can add a turbo. Hard to do but possible. Ka Power..

[Onizuka]

Invest it all in Mutual funds.

Until you figure out what you want to do yourself that is....

[midnightclubbaa]

The SR is not illegal in all states cause some states don't have emissions i.e parts of tennessee and all

What are you talking about? The SR is illegal no matter where you are in the United States. He has a better chance going with the KA in terms of legality. And yes, Cali has the strictest automotive laws in US, so if it passes here, it will pass in any other state, ie. whatever inspection you guys do we do also and more. At least it should unless he finds someone like you who has something against turbo KA's.

The SR is not illegal in all states cause some states don't have emissions i.e parts of Tennessee and all OF Arkansas

[nismofly]

i think it has been answered though, jdm hype and lack of knowledge.

well you know what, i dont think its been answered at all, if you would read a little this is an ongoing discussion, ka vs. sr vs. rb vs. ca and so on. and it will never end. whose to say what engine you "have to" use.

and trust me look around a bit there are a ton of people on here who arent and dont want to be JDM TYTE but yet have the sr, one strike, and have quite a lot of knowledge, thats two strikes.

[iwantawd]

hey thanks umpire... i didnt see any good counter points about the ENGINES though.move along