100 octane aviation gas

[jrb92se]

ok i need to know if it will be safe to run 100 oct. aviation fuel they sell it at a gas station next to an airport by me house i believe its just 100 octane gas but let me know if its not good sh*t

[lucky7]

i would not try it. i used to work at an airport fueling airplanes. our 100 octane was low lead, so it was leaded.

[eh?]

The lead in the 100LL avgas will ruin your o2 sensor.Why not buy a water/meth injection kit instead? I just bought one off ebay for $200.

[jrb92se]

i dont think its 100LL i thinks its just 100 octane because its at a regular pump with the 89 91 93

[lucky7]

can i ask why they would sell avgas at a gas station in the first place??

[eh?]

Hey if its not 100LL go for it

[Joe]

ok i need to know if it will be safe to run 100 oct. aviation fuel they sell it at a gas station next to an airport by me house i believe its just 100 octane gas but let me know if its not good sh*t

octane does not equal horsepower

octane is a measure of how hard a fuel is to combust. meaning the HIGHER the octane the HARDER your engine has to work.

you run the lowest octane you can without detonation for maximum power. there is no point running higher than what you find at the pump unless you are having detonation problems.

stick to pump gas.

[jrb92se]

kamin i am not going to question anything that you tell me so ill leave it to the pilots lol

[jrb92se]

im not 100% thats its av gas my buddy from flagerman.com told me about it

[RB20DETodd]

I miss the smell of 100LL Hawaii and alaska are the only states that have straight 100 full of lead, if you have a old hot rod with a carb 100LL ownes.

[Felipe]

[eh?]

I will disagree with you on not using 100 octane for arguements sake, nothing is backed up by facts.

1) JDM rb25's are tuned for japanese 100 RON fuel- ~96 pon US.2) Our 91 or 93 pon us fuel *could* cause knock, because of that the ECU will pull timing and you wouldn't even know it because you've never ran the proper fuel to compare it.3) Eventually the ecu runs on map to run the lower octane without knock thus the potential performance is reduced. 4) Possibly if the ecu is reset while using 100 oct it will run timing to take advantage of it. (I've read supras can do this on race gas)-----------------------------------------------

Besides all that just bump that base timing to 20+ degrees.. you'll take advantage of that octane boost

[RB20DETodd]

I will disagree with you on not using 100 octane for arguements sake, nothing is backed up by facts.

1) JDM rb25's are tuned for japanese 100 RON fuel- ~96 pon US.2) Our 91 or 93 pon us fuel *could* cause knock, because of that the ECU will pull timing and you wouldn't even know it because you've never ran the proper fuel to compare it.3) Eventually the ecu runs on map to run the lower octane without knock thus the potential performance is reduced. 4) Possibly if the ecu is reset while using 100 oct it will run timing to take advantage of it. (I've read supras can do this on race gas)-----------------------------------------------

Besides all that just bump that base timing to 20+ degrees.. you'll take advantage of that octane boost

this man knows his stuff hes a aviation maintenance tech!! i heard those guys are badass!

[eh?]

Well I sort work for Jetblue now doing their IFE.... but I still use my A&P lol..

[RB20DETodd]

Well I sort work for Jetblue now doing their IFE.... but I still use my A&P lol..

Sighning your life away haha, what happend to Delta?

[eh?]

20% pay cut, looming layoff's, didn't feel like living in nyc anymore..that's about it

[jrb92se]

i actually webt to school for aviation maint. when i was 16 out of highschool but i didnt finish. and i really dont remeber most of it national aviation academy,clearwater fl i wouldnt recommed them to teach anyone anything

[RB20DETodd]

i actually webt to school for aviation maint. when i was 16 out of highschool but i didnt finish. and i really dont remeber most of it national aviation academy,clearwater fl i wouldnt recommed them to teach anyone anything

HAHA 95% of the people i started school with dropped out lol.

Eh sucks about the layoffs and pay cuts, i wonder when the majors will get through this, maybe when d!ck gets out of office?

[jrb92se]

if i went now id probly finish but when i was 16 i was a punk *** kid i didnt give a ****.

[RB20DETodd]

if i went now id probly finish but when i was 16 i was a punk *** kid i didnt give a ****.

should have stuck with it, fresh out of A&P school i made 12 bucks an hour 4 months later i got a new job that ive had for the past year that pays 24 bucks an hour, just got to pay your dues

[USMCgetsome]

i was and still am an avionics technician at boeing aerospace san antonio. I work on the c-130 amp program. Used to work on c130's in the marines. Wtf is this 100ll i figured it was like jp4 or jp8. Never even heard of that stuff.

[RB20DETodd]

i was and still am an avionics technician at boeing aerospace san antonio. I work on the c-130 amp program. Used to work on c130's in the marines. Wtf is this 100ll i figured it was like jp4 or jp8. Never even heard of that stuff.

Do you do the "glass cockpit" conversions on the c-130's? haha you call jet fuel by military standard, 100 Low Lead is what piston powerd planes use.

[rustbucket]

- Jp-8 is just diesel fuel. -If its 100 octane and led free, try it and see if you like it. At the present time, if leaded gas is sold from a pump, it has a dispenser nozzle that is bigger than a 87-93 octane. It wont fit into your gas tank opening, thats to keep dummy heads from filling up their fuel injected cars with leaded gas.

"Knowing is half the battle" - GI Joe

[bmadd2402]

JP8 is NOT just Diesel fuel. it is the equivelent of civilian jet-A+ fuel, which is basically kerosene with some stabilizers, and anti-icing chemical, and an antibiotic. it is a little more complicated than that though. AVGAS is leaded, and has all kinds of other crap in it designed for recip engines, and probably won't do too hot in your car. I know this because I am a very "resourceful" Army Aviator, and if it did work, I'd have a few drums at my house right now.

[Chaos the Xile]

if it's just 100 octane then save the money go buy some odd # of gallons for 93 octane and get some true blue octane booster and you'll get a solid 104 octane, which you give you a nice lil' jump in HP. Trust me that stuff is nice!

[rustbucket]

JP8 is NOT just Diesel fuel. it is the equivelent of civilian jet-A+ fuel, which is basically kerosene with some stabilizers, and anti-icing chemical, and an antibiotic. it is a little more complicated than that though. AVGAS is leaded, and has all kinds of other crap in it designed for recip engines, and probably won't do too hot in your car. I know this because I am a very "resourceful" Army Aviator, and if it did work, I'd have a few drums at my house right now.

I dont think anyone on here really cares about the composition and comparison of JP-8, JP-5, JP-4, Jet-A+ fuel or anyother sort of turbine engine fuel. I guess if its more technical than that you can compare the MSDSs between all three, but the composition also depends on the manufacturer. The purpose of my post was to inform people that "Jet Fuel" isnt high octane, its BASICALLY diesel fuel. (Which is almost 100% kerosene like you stated above) The high octane gas you can get at an airport is desinged for piston engines, like someone else said earlier in the post.

Your not the only one on this forum that is in the aviation filed. You know jp8 and jp5 are used in tugs, some powercarts and even humvees, 2 1/2 tons, 5 tons and whatever else. which are diesel engines. HOOAH

Just to be clear, im not and never have been in the Army.

Modified by rustbucket at 9:21 AM 7/28/2006
Modified by rustbucket at 9:33 AM 7/28/2006

[Chaos the Xile]

ok i need to know if it will be safe to run 100 oct. aviation fuel they sell it at a gas station next to an airport by me house i believe its just 100 octane gas but let me know if its not good sh*t

Or just goto your local drag strip and use race fuel, are you building a plane? I thinks its a waste of money...