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Kaforlife
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Hey guys just would like to know if any of you own a 10 sec KAT build. I'm in the process of building my ka and just wanted to know if your car is still realible and also about how much hp should I set my goal at to have a 10 sec car. Thanks for your help


Florida240sx
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Only a couple... 500hp with very good suspension and shifting, launch etc. 10sec DD going to be fun what is your budget?

Kaforlife
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Well I'm about to go overseas for one of those contract jobs where you get like 100k at the end of the year so my budget for the car is like 15,000.

kpc_0721
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Well with a budget like that I would work on hooking up the suspension first and making sure you have a nice solid car to work with and lsd would also be a must. I would look into a AMS turbo kit for your car and maybe a rebuild kit of theirs or just piece together your own parts for bottom end/head. Dont cheap out on tuning and go with a AEM EMS....thats pretty much some of the main things you want to consider but there is still much much more that you can do.

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DevilMB3017
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15K for a drag car? Get a 5.0 Mustang and throw a super charger on it, maybe a bottle. You'll be down into the 9's with much more drag support then the 240s.

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haha that was gonna be my first suggestion but seems like he wants a 10 sec kat I guess?

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DevilMB3017 wrote:15K for a drag car? Get a 5.0 Mustang and throw a super charger on it, maybe a bottle. You'll be down into the 9's with much more drag support then the 240s.
Not to be a d!ck or anything but he came here asking how to make his 240 KA-T a 10 second car, not how to make a Mustang a 10 second car.

I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that if he wanted a 10 sec mustang he would have used the mustang forums hehe.

Anyways with 15k, and I'm hoping thats just money for the car mods, and the cost of car doesn't fall into it. You should be able to hit 10 sec no problems ..

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Step one so hassle free just order and engine from ams.Get a revhard mani with a big t04.Enthalpy ecu.Great suspension, great tires, and you can run a welded diff but if it's a everyday car get a j30 or a real diif

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DevilMB3017
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I didn't mean it as a d!ck comment, I'm just pointing out that in my opinion if he were to spend that sort of money a drag car, a 5.0 Mustang or something similar would be a better, more relilable option. I apoligize if the OP took my comments the wrong way.

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oh no I meant it as in I don't want to sound like a d!ck with my response heh. I understand where your coming from with the mustang idea, and I'm all for exploring other ideas.

The thing is a lot of people that come here come here cause they wanted a 240, sure a Mustang would be a more viable option for a drag car but where is the fun in that.

Plus with a 240 it doesn't take much if he ever wanted to convert it to a nice track car. Try that with a poostang hehe.

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480sx
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So much d!ck in this thread..

Check out AMS's drag car if you want some good ideas. They have broken into the 9's, and split the cyinder walls on their KA at an estimated 1000 crank hp.

You will need a different transmission, and you should go with a auto for sure.

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DevilMB3017
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My only concern is if he can fit all that work inside of 15K. AMS did a lot of custom work with zero labor costs...15K isn't really that much for a 10 sec car.

Rebuilt motor is going to be a 2-3K after parts and labor, then turbo setup at least 5K after everything, then 1-2K for suspension, 2K on trans/housing/driveshaft., and at least 1K on wheels/tires. Thats up to 13K already without blinking an eye...And no cage/safety stuff or tuning.

But it can certainly be done and I'd love to see it

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^^i agree money goes fast especially with labor but if you do it right i definitley think you can do it man BTW, i'm glad to see you are building a ka-t, too many 5.0's out there
480sx wrote:..and split the cyinder walls on their KA at an estimated 1000 crank hp.
that's craaaazy!!!

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sstomek
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drag has been played out IMO. You should take that money and make a road/grip racer out of that. Would be so much more rewarding and fun, plus you wont have to go to work with 36in wide radials and for 15k you will have one hell of a road racer.

Kaforlife
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Yeah I was starting to look at auto cross too, just weighing my options right now. I hang out with a lot of muscle cars guys because there a lot of ricers where I live at. So I guess I've been influence by them a little about going fast in a straight line and I get raged on for wanting to grip races and stuff like that ,but I find it way more fun then drag I just wanted to know if it wa possible to do and have a dd.

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DevilMB3017
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If you want an all around car like that, 15K is a decent budget to built a KA-T. I'd say thats a little more then what I spent all in all, but I don't wheels yet.

Go for it man, and make sure you have a backup car

Kaforlife
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yeah thanks for all the info everyone

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I can run 10's ALL DAY for under 15K. The Mustang 302 block splits at 500whp...so reliable...yeah no. The main point I'm going to make, and make once is easy. The guys is asking about a DRAG 240...so ALL replies from here on out will deal with THAT. Mostly cause I'm going to delete any that don't.

You don't need to spend NEAR the money AMS did to run 10's. People run 10's with boost and internals with a ECU tune and SAFC. Thats a far cry from the 15K budget.

WD

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Spend 3k on engine. Spend 2k on turbo setup. $500 for ecu tune. Then say supporitng mods like radiator, electric fans. full exhaust, clutch 1500.... that is 7k. suspension 1k so now at 8k. And you bought a 240sx with blown motor for say 1500... so 9500...If you don't want your hands messy then probably another 1500. Then a set of good tires. So now you got 5500/4000 for gauges, timers,wheels, seats, cage. Anything I'm missing?

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spooled240
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a bottle may help things out lol240's are really light too so gutting, carbon this and that will require less hp to move you in 10 sec.

Kaforlife
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yeah I already have the 240 paid 800 for running no body damange bought from a friend so gave me a deal

DunnJH4
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Wow Running 240 for $800? My tax return could buy that! I know how you feel Katforlife, I hang out with a bunch of American Muscle Car guys. 69 Camaro with a bored 454, half tubbed, over 600 hp. It just sounds so good and popping wheelies get so many stares! Once I get my 300 running fast and reliably I want to buy a cheap 240 or RX7 and make it as fast as possible for about 15k also!

mach5camaross
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What I would do:

Build motor, Custom Intake manifold, Build head with cams, Brakes to stop, Custom turbo manifold with gt35r or compairable turbo, q45 3.63 rear end, 26x10 slicks with drag rims, CalumtuneRT, clutchmasters stage-5 clutch, cryo treated transmission and 1 piece drive shaft. If you do work youself you should stay under 15k. Or you can do a auto setup but cost would be more. I did not really mention the basic turbo parts that everyone needs.

I have over 15k into my car, but when its all setup right I should run low 11s on pump gas, but swap my coilovers in the back and go place in the top 10 at auto-x all the time, and can murder up the road course as I improve my driver skill.


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