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Or, more aptly titled, How the Gov't is Continually Trying to Ruin Society...

http://oppositelock.jalopnik.com/govern ... thardigree
Over the past two years the government has been working on a proposed rule to change credit risk retention requirements. A part of that overhaul includes sweeping changes to automotive loans, changes that are leaving many commenters asking: do regulators have any idea how people actually buy cars today?

On April 29, 2011 the Comptroller of the Currency (OCC) posted a proposed rule to implement Section 941 (Regulation of Credit Risk Retention) of the Dodd-Frank Wall Street Reform Act.

Before we venture down this complex road of financial securities I have one confession to make; my understanding of finance consists of my wife sending me my monthly car part allowance.

The goal of this rule is to establish new risk standards to prevent asset backed securities from being built on poorly written loans. In other words – prevent the financial calamity that broke America.

What does this have to do with vehicles?

Like houses, cars are often purchased on credit which means they're ripe for securitization. The business of auto loans is a very lucrative one and there was a time when many automakers relied on profits from financing to support manufacturing. This is why you see manufacture incentives that say "Rebate applies if financed by ENTER CAPTIVE LENDER."

To issue the most loans possible financial institutions look to securitization as way to 'sell' loans to free up new credit to issue more loans. This rule really only impacts lenders who depend on asset backed securities. Unfortunately I wasn't able to find out which auto lenders rely on securitization. The comments tend to indicate the impact is rather large so we'll assume most originators of commercial automotive loans rely on securities.

I don't want to get into the details of how securities work, ratings, expected spreads, etc., nor do I want this to evolve into an auto vs. mortgage risk debate. For one I would be way out of my league trying to sound intelligent on this complicated subject. Secondly, that isn't the point of this post.

A large portion of this rule is focused on mortgages, but auto loans are also included under the section titled, "D. Qualifying Automobile Loans (QAL)."

Here are the main points from the first go around of this rule:

1. The Borrower's monthly debt-to-income (DTI) ratio must be no more than 36 percent.

2. The Originators has to verify and document the borrower's income and all outstanding debts to include; rent/mortgage, property taxes, insurance, debt payments (credit cards), debts not in repayment (deferred student loans, interest-only loans); and any required monthly alimony, child support, or court-ordered payments.

3. Auto loans can only have a fixed interest rate and cannot exceed 5 years, with the first payment due within 45 days of the closing date. For a used vehicle, the loan agreement must provide that the term of the loan, plus the difference between the current model year and the vehicle's model year, cannot exceed 5 years.

4. At the time of the closing of the automobile loan, the borrower tendered a minimum down payment from the borrower's personal funds + trade-in allowance that is sufficient to pay the full cost of vehicle title, tax, and registration fees, as well as any dealer-imposed fees, and 20 percent of the purchase price of the automobile.

In summary, most of America would be unable to qualify for an auto loan.

Not too worry – this rulemaking garnered a whopping 406 comments. Posted below are excerpts from some of the comments on the automotive loan provisions. This isn't a comprehensive list, but it gives you some idea of the concerns.

Hertz:

"We respectfully request that the Regulators exempt rental car from the risk retention rules to be promulgated under Section 150 of the Exchange Act."
American Securitization Forum:

"We believe that in preparing the qualifying auto loan definition, the Joint Regulators made a fundamental error in attempting to analogize to the residential mortgage asset class. This inappropriate paralleling is evident in the focus on debt and income verifications at origination, which have traditionally not been required for even the highest quality motor vehicle originations, a required 20% down payment (comprised of cash and/or vehicle trade-in value) in a market where advance rates above 100% are commonplace"
National Automobile Dealers Association:

"NADA supports the view of the motor vehicle sponsors that the proposed risk retention options would unnecessarily impose additional layers of risk retention that could have "a number of significant, negative impacts," including an increase in dealers' floorplanning costs and in consumers' costs to purchase and lease vehicles from motor vehicle dealers."
Comments are in! Now what?

Based on the comments provided, the Agencies huddled and issued a revised rule on September 20, 2013 (OCC-2013-0010-0001).

205 comments were received before the (second) rule closed on October 30, 2013.

In summary the Agency responded by saying:

1. Money-in (income) vs. money-out (bills) is the best crystal ball into default (risk). "The agencies do not believe that a credit score alone is sufficient underwriting for a conservative automobile loan with a low risk of default."

2. Vehicle leases will not be included as they fall into a different category of securitization.

3. 20% down requirement was changed to 10% while the 60 month term expanded to 72.

Noteworthy comments on re-issued rule:

CarMax:

"CarMax like other auto lenders, relies on statements made on a customer's credit application and on credit bureau reports in conducting our underwriting process. If we were required to demand independent income verification of our customers, we would disrupt our existing sales processes, put substantial burdens on our customers, and find ourselves at a competitive disadvantage behind lenders who do not rely on the securitization markets for funding and would not need to perform any income verification."
"..minimum down payment is not necessary if the other criteria related to creditworthiness are required. We do not require a down payment for many of our customers with excellent credit, as these customers have displayed behaviors and history that show their willingness and ability to repay their obligations. Many of these customers, those who should be the very focus of the definition, would be disqualified solely because of the down payment requirement."
SIFMA, FSR, ABA & ABASA:

"The criteria proposed for the definition of "qualifying automobile loan" are impractical and inconsistent with industry practice. This exemption would be useless, as virtually no loans made today would qualify. The proposed standards, which are more suited to unsecured installment loans, rely on information not available to prime and super prime automobile lenders. The cash down payment requirement is particularly out of step with the market, as is the lack of permitted reliance on credit scoring. The criteria should be expanded to include leases on the structural side, and motorcycles on the asset side.
Conclusion:

While much of this rule pertains to the quality and risk as it relates to the creation of asset-backed commercial paper, these rules could have a rather large impact on the how consumer's finance their new and used vehicles.

If CarMax is correct in stating "many" of their customers wouldn't be able to afford a 10% down payment and these rules were to be implemented as they currently stand, it could have a devastating impact on an industry that relies so heavily on ZERO DOWN credit offers.

Associated Links:

Original Rule (April 29, 2011): http://www.regulations.gov/#!documentDeta...

New Rule (September 20, 2013): http://www.regulations.gov/#!documentDeta...

Juan Barnett is a blogger who has a passion for automotive policy. Much of his content can be found at DCAutoGeek.com. To get more of Juan in real-time, to include links to obscure government ongoings, follow him on Twitter at http://www.twitter.com/DCAutoGeek.
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I think the car companies are going to have a HELL of a time selling their products. Even with excellent credit, I wouldn't be able to buy a new car that I wanted just because a 10% down payment is required. Its scary thinking about the rest of the general American public... Image


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Wow, they just love over-regulating everything they can...

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I am Libritarian because of crap like this. I just finished reading a book about Thomas Jefferson and am 2 fingers deep into a book on Alexander Hamilton. .Gov has no business in private lifes including personal financing we are quickly reaching the type of government Thomas Jefferson feared in ways he could have never imagined.

Sorry for the political response to the political post LOL

I have only put down money once and it was $1000 on the Jag. I got a half point of interest reduction for $1000, I would have put down more if I could have received a lower rate.... once your under 4% @72 months on a used car though not much can be done and I wanted the low payments. I talked Toyota into under 3% @ 84 months on our new Sequoia in Jan of this year with zero down! I have had a couple 0% interest 0 down loans from Toyota Financial but they dictated the terms.

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I'm so f*** sick of the government trying to "fix" things that have NOTHING to do with governing. That was NEVER the intended purpose of ANY form of government.

Just one more reason for me to take over the world.

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This will drive more people to shady buy here/pay here operations. Meanwhile, people with good credit won't be able to enjoy 0-down, low-interest loans with extended payment plants. If your interest is close enough to zero, why not hold on to your cash?

THIS IS BAD FOR THE CONSUMER IN EVERY WAY.

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/facepalm

I get the feeling that if this were to go through, it wouldn't take long to backtrack once the trend motioned for a major decrease in new sales purchasing. Heck, if auto lobbyists are doing their jobs properly, this should never pass muster.

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Hijacker wrote:/facepalm

I get the feeling that if this were to go through, it wouldn't take long to backtrack once the trend motioned for a major decrease in new sales purchasing. Heck, if auto lobbyists are doing their jobs properly, this should never pass muster.
Did we just decide lobbyists are on the side of the consumer? Has our gov gotten this far out of touch?

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Jesda wrote:Meanwhile, people with good credit won't be able to enjoy 0-down, low-interest loans with extended payment plants.
Right. This is so bassackward. It's only going to impact people with GOOD credit. That's not who we need to be worried about. People with crummy credit were already going to have to drop a huge downpayment, or face crazy interest rates. Or both. This doesn't help jack. Besides, people with dangerously bad credit don't buy new cars. They stop by Dave's Used Cars and Hot Chocolate Shack -- the one renting the empty half of the parking lot next to the hardware store and stocked with 10-year-old Elantras and a Daewoo Nubira that nobody wants.

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Yeah I don't see that working too well.

You'd think it would be in lenders' best interest to only offer loans to people that can actually pay them.

I'd never buy a car without putting a substantial amount of money down though. I've never had a car payment, and I don't really intend to start. It would rock the economy pretty hard though, and I'm sure my job would be affected.

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Term Limits. Popular Vote.

Start there, we'll fix the rest as we go.

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WDRacing wrote:Term Limits. Popular Vote.

Start there, we'll fix the rest as we go.
+1!

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As soon as the United States government can manage its own credit, they are welcome to scrutinize mine.

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themadscientist wrote:As soon as the United States government can manage its own credit, they are welcome to scrutinize mine.
:werd: That's the f*** truth!!!!

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themadscientist wrote:As soon as the United States government can manage its own credit, they are welcome to scrutinize mine.
No fvcking doubt right! I'd like to see them manage their own checkbook ffs. They're not even ready to look at credit yet imho. Until we have more black than red in our ledger our Gov needs to STFU and figure our more ways it can stay the f*** out of my damn life.

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themadscientist wrote:As soon as the United States government can manage its own credit, they are welcome to scrutinize mine.
TMS 2016

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MinisterofDOOM wrote: They stop by Dave's Used Cars and Hot Chocolate Shack
I think you just gave me an idea :rotfl :rotfl :rotfl

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MinisterofDOOM wrote:...Just one more reason for me to take over the world.
As Overlord titles go, Minister of Doom is kinda catchy. Gets my vote! :dblthumb:

They didn't learn their lesson with the Rule of 78, nor the housing market fiasco. :facepalm:

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People who need to borrow money in order to buy just won't buy new. It'll be great for the used car salespeople because they can increase their prices / increase their profits. Meanwhile, the only way the dealerships will be able to move brand new inventory is to target those customers who can pay a huge down payment or pay for it outright. I'm guessing that is a significantly minute percentage of the population. It's a loss, no matter how you look at it.

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WDRacing wrote: Popular Vote.
Gore woulda won...we'd be back in the stone age without the ability to even create fire for fear of global warming

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