1/4mile record outside Japan?

[Giallo spyder met]

With a ca18det in a S13?

[niscort]

let me guess, a stroker is cheating??

what about an auto? nitrous? modified rear end??

and why does it have to be outside of japan? cant you actually be better than the Japanese, or is there some reason they dont count... sloping drag tracks?

good luck on your quest to world domination with the ca s13

[boost_boy]

let me guess, a stroker is cheating??

what about an auto? nitrous? modified rear end??

and why does it have to be outside of japan? cant you actually be better than the Japanese, or is there some reason they dont count... sloping drag tracks?

good luck on your quest to world domination with the ca s13

Damn

Dee

[meminto]

lol... x10

Love it!!

[bentvalves]

whys everybody hating on this guy, because as far as I know his ca18det is making more power than any of yours at the moment.

[boost_boy]

whys everybody hating on this guy, because as far as I know his ca18det is making more power than any of yours at the moment.

Indeed, but I have a ca powered sentra that will surely make him sweat. Something I learned over the years, though the CA loves boost, it really hates big turbos. They are nasty/laggy and though you'll achieve your desired power level, "when" is the operative question. My 240 suffered from lag tad b it, but when the power comes on, it's a treat. I have different configurations with different turbos and I definitely have concluded which snail gives the CA good power and excellent spoolability.

I hate on none of these guys, but it's funny that he pops up with silly questions at times and then disappears forever and a day. Did you ever wonder why he's disappearing? Maybe he hurt an engine chasing big power or really fast Japanese 1/4 mile times, who knows. 600+whp and 11 second runs, hmmm. Something isn't right, but to each his own. I actually like the dude and what he's done with his car to be honest with you. But you have people that may find the silly questions; well to be honest with you again, silly . I love this forum.

Dee

[niscort]

sorry... your right, some magic figure my engine makes or time i run is perfect justification for a bit of good ol chest beating?

deep deep down im probably jealous and express my resentment through sarcasm, or maybe its plain ignorance. ill be sure to ask at my next session.

[Giallo spyder met]

f*** the Japanese´

I have built my own car and engine in my bedroom kitchen and garaget i ported my cylinderhead in a f***ing wardrobe.And no sponsors that pays my stuff.

But if you don´t want too hear about/from me and my car it´s alright.

Bye bye

[bentvalves]

hey man forget about them I always had nice things to say about your ca18.

die-hard bro, you are die-hard and apparantly that rubs a certain few the wrong way.

dont leave because of it though, turn the boost pressure up!

[r34 gtr]

Lets have some clarification here. You mean a CA18DET in a S-chassis, right?

Ive seen a CA in Australia put down 8 seconds in the 1/4 mile, but it was in some tiny little tin can of a car. It probably weighed 900lbs.

As far as I know, you are chasing BigTone, and the rest of those SXOC cats.

[meminto]

I don't see hating here... No one has hung s*** on his car, or his build, in fact I think it is a promising build and I have said so in posts of his.. But seriously the attitude man...

What I see is a dude who pops up from time to time asking questions about the most powerful this or the fastest that outside of japan this or that.. And with a heap of attitude in his postings...

Then when a reply comes along with nos or a stroker or aything outside the square.. he doesnt want to hear about it because it is "cheating" and has a hissy fit about it..

You know what, like most people on the forums, I don't have sponsors, I have built my creation pretty well in the garage myself with help from friends, my cold hard cash has been sucked up in my build and over the near ten years I have built my car it has cost me close to a hundred g's aud out of my own pocket (27 alone in this engine build)...

Yes I have not run a single time, yes my motor is not running, and yes I know all well it could be a dismal failure at the end of the day. But I don't give two fks becase I have met some very cool people, been part of a great community and have made friends all over the world as part of my enthuiast hobby.

So you know what, here is some friendly advice..

Build your dream, put down your times and then report back with your results and reap in the much sought after glory you are chasing..

Until then, keep your fkn attitude to yourself, stop popping up every so often with nothing than asking about the biggst and the best, and if you don't like it, stick it fair up the chum mate.....

/end rant...

[dash]

gotta be a bit more specific, list your specs and target... for a fair comparison.Lexan, glass doors, carbon fibre front & hatch, gutted, etc... is still "an S13".quickest street registered CA18 I can recall is probably that aussie ute ? @8.5secStock cams, stock intake manifold too, iirc.Probably still heavier than the "S13 example" I mention aboveImpressive for anyone who can play at that level.... you certainly seem dedicated enough. Good luck on your mission. Keep posting.

[D_Stirls]

What ute would that be?If it's a datsun 1200 i think they are around the 850-900kg mark

[niscort]

10stu?

i know the blue one (from the goldy) does 8's as well, but dont believe it has rego..

both use a bit of gas iirc... thus cheating anyhow

.........

So far havent seen anyone baggin this 'die hard dudes' car?? unlike the thread about Jim's twincharged Anglia where a few seem to think they could do a better job... which Im far more impressed with.

[D_Stirls]

There's this one which i though it might have been; 9.12 @ 143.3MPH but it's using Gas as well, and definitely isn't using stock cams with that big turbo as they would choke it well and truly. Infact any dato ute running 8.5's would have to be making over 450HP and i would say that here is no way that this is possible with standard cams.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPqetdsCNB8

[niscort]

as quoted from the last bit of info I could find on the blue one... apparently still has rego, has done an 8.5 @ 153

"basically std block, grout filled.forgies, rods and studs, all balanced.ported head, std intake mani, std cams, bigger throttle body, custom ex manifold, intercooler and large turbo.lots of boost (2 bar), bit of nos to get up on stall. c4 auto"

[D_Stirls]

well there you go, Big turbo and lots of boost will make up for inefficient cams. Surely cams that allow the engine to breath would make more use of the port work than the standard 240x7.6 and 248x8.5 cams would allow.

[dash]

Quote »last bit of info I could find on the blue one... apparently still has rego, has done an 8.5 @ 153...... stall. c4 auto"[/quote] yep, that's the one.

Quote »Infact any dato ute running 8.5's would have to be making over 450HP and i would say that here is no way that this is possible with standard cams[/quote]Unless you've "seen it all", it's impossible to sit here and say/know what can from cannot be done.

Was another CA18 S13 discussed/linked in a thread here that went 10.8?, std cams

From observation, a miata 1.8 yield similar output per input.Nobody "guessed" the one I posted would 493hp on std cams or 585hp on a T04E 50-trim

quickest drag S13 I can recall in the u.s, powered by a KA24DE, 7.93sec, lifting off the throttle on top end..... again, std cams.

Don't underestimate std cams, and get caught up in the "peak hp" game It's all in the combination

[D_Stirls]

would you agree that the duration of the cams affects what RPM the engine will be at it's most efficient?Given that, at what RPM would a 450WHP turbo be A) above the boost threshold on a 1.8 litre engine, &B) be at it's most efficent?

So you are saying that there is no advantage in matching your cams to your turbo? If you ahve a Laggy Huge turbo what is the point of having cams that produce their maximum efficiency at 4000RPM what the turbo isn't even above it's boost threshold as that point. What they are actually doing i suspect is using the "Gas" to bring the turbo on boost.

[Ryan1200]

10STU and Yeh85 (Blue 1200) up to date times can be found here:

http://www.fullboost.com.au/records.php?class=6

If the blue datsun had gone 8.5 it would be a the top of the list and Mark would have updated it as soon as it happened. Someone posted it went 8.5 on nissan sivia's but is mistaken..

As far as cam's go 10STU up until his recent motor freshen up were standard and was running 9.4sec and now with the custom grinds 9.12.

Ryan

[dash]

Quote »would you agree that the duration of the cams affects what RPM the engine will be at it's most efficient?[/quote] Yes, I understand what you're saying, but building the most "efficient" powerplant does not automatically translate into the hardest accelerating machine.Quote »So you are saying that there is no advantage in matching your cams to your turbo?[/quote]That is not what I said at all. I'm saying, don't 'assume' std cams yield second rate performance... as evidenced, that is clearly not the case.

For instance, here is our quickest starion clubmemberhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9t-Wcra_1IwDrove to work daily; 4cyl sohc, 5spd, T04B... ET 10.4 on spray. He preferred the torque curve of the std cam, after testing others - dyno & strip.No doubt, would rate poorly as a candidate for a technical paper on efficiency, but.... I'm sure that's not the objective he had in mind