1/4 mile time with 200whp n/a ka24e?

Information on the naturally-aspirated KA24E and KA24DE engines.
mulletxdriftxx
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dose anyone know wat my 1/4 mile time would be with 200whp on a n/a ka24e?


cdlong
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yeah, never.

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Wow, that was incredibly helpful.I'd expect that it wouldn't be too much faster than a 200 whp sr/KAT powered 240. Since there aren't too many NA KAs pushing that level of power, I'd check one of the turbo forums to see what they are running.

mulletxdriftxx
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some people are just so kind,

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"there's a $100 bill in the middle of a four way intersection, one each street is santa clause, the easter bunny, a guy with a 200whp NA KA, and a man hating lesbian. which one will get to the money first?"

"the lesbian"

"why...

because the other three are a figment of your ****ing imagination."

seriously, about every two weeks some new guy asks how to get 200 whp out of a NA KA. he always gets the same response...it's not going to happen in any normal street car. if you want any respectable ammount of power, you have to go FI. if you searched or browsed the site enough, you'd know that already.

from that you should come to one of two conclusions... you can't reasonably get 200 whp from a KA without a turbo, or i need to search for info somewhere else.

but to comment on what ajax said, a 200whp KT-T or SR would probably be noticable faster because the torque curve would be much more broad. a NA KA would be very peaky (not compared to an S2000 engine but not far off)

mulletxdriftxx
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first you dont got to be a ****... im not asking how to get it. who said it was going to be a normal street car and i have searched and browsed the site.

i came to two conclusions... you can get 200 whp from a KA without a turbo, and people are just ********

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or people need to search for info before posting. its in the guidelines. seriously.

dont get your feelings hurt, it was a simple question and you have your answer. name calling will not help your case.

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I am building a high compression Ka24de and I know for a fact 200whp is an accomplishment to be proud of....Im planning on only getting 220 whp with 275 cams, 10:1 compression, 4 angle valve job, and the other mods like the lighter crank and rod are just way to make it rev faster...iI also have a electric fan, short ram intake, headers. full exhaust with no cat and a r34 dif with 436 gearssss ..Im just gonna run nitrous oxide and i will be happy with 300whp with the nos....Na stock internal Ka is hard...

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mulletxdriftxx wrote:first you dont got to be a ****... im not asking how to get it. who said it was going to be a normal street car. it is FI. and i have searched and browsed the site.

i came to two conclusions... you can get 200 whp from a KA without a turbo, and people are just ********Modified by mulletxdriftxx at 5:20 PM 1/25/2006
so is it forced induction (FI) or naturally aspriated (n/a)? they are opposites, you can't have both. most people count nitrous as forced induction because it is forcing more oxygen into the cylinder by artificial means. if you were including that in your 200 whp, that changes everything.

of course you can get 200whp with a turbo, that's pretty much the starting point of a basic system. staying n/a it takes a lot of work to get that far, especially on a KA24E.

i wasn't trying to tell you how to do it either. my point was that no one will post any actual numbers or how they did it because there isn't anyone on this site, not that i've seen yet anyway, that has that kind of power without a turbo.

that joke is a modified version of a joke from "chasing amy". the only thing i changed was the guy with the 200whp NA KA. don't get your panties in a bunch.

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blackS13 wrote:I am building a high compression Ka24de and I know for a fact 200whp is an accomplishment to be proud of....Im planning on only getting 220 whp with 275 cams, 10:1 compression, 4 angle valve job, and the other mods like the lighter crank and rod are just way to make it rev faster...iI also have a electric fan, short ram intake, headers. full exhaust with no cat and a r34 dif with 436 gearssss ..Im just gonna run nitrous oxide and i will be happy with 300whp with the nos....Na stock internal Ka is hard...
when you get that done, you need to post some dyno sheets, just to prove me wrong if nothing else.

i don't think it's going to happen though. don't for get bigger injectors or a wet system with that nitrous. the stock system can only support 250 hp or something, don't quote me on that but it's around there somewhere.

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200rwhp out of a NA is easily accomplished.Just not cost worthy.For the price it takes to do it you should go turbo which you'll make more power.He asked a simple question and you went off on him about something he didn't even ask. Probably going to be right around the high 13 mark. If you got suspension and tires.You may be quicker but only one way to find out. Get that engine built.

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I watched a video from KA-t.org of a NA KA at the strip. It was running high hp #'s. You should watch it and see if it shows the time.

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There are multiple NA KAs that are making over 200whp. It's really not that hard. I mean honestly, you can get to ~160 or so without any internal work.

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cdlong wrote:"there's a $100 bill in the middle of a four way intersection, one each street is santa clause, the easter bunny, a guy with a 200whp NA KA, and a man hating lesbian. which one will get to the money first?"

"the lesbian"

"why...

because the other three are a figment of your ****ing imagination."

seriously, about every two weeks some new guy asks how to get 200 whp out of a NA KA. he always gets the same response...it's not going to happen in any normal street car. if you want any respectable ammount of power, you have to go FI. if you searched or browsed the site enough, you'd know that already.

from that you should come to one of two conclusions... you can't reasonably get 200 whp from a KA without a turbo, or i need to search for info somewhere else.

but to comment on what ajax said, a 200whp KT-T or SR would probably be noticable faster because the torque curve would be much more broad. a NA KA would be very peaky (not compared to an S2000 engine but not far off)
Way to quote Banky. Normally, I appreciate references to Kevin Smith's script writing genious, but not when its used to be a smarta$$.

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at least you got it. how can you quote kevin smith and not be a smartass?

i've given up on this thread and will keep the same opinion until i am proven otherwise.

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The KA has a CID of 146ci. Grabbing 200hp would require the KA to produce 1.3HP per cubic inch, which realistically is not that hard.

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298 whp W/O nitrous

The fastest ka24de that i know of is a 11.37 @ 116.2mph if some one can tell me where i can host the vid i will post it.

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the nitrous kit was not yet hooked up in the pics.

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There is a sohc KA running a high 9 in the quarter mile. Low 9 with NOS. There was a thread baout it in here not too long ago(4months?) However I beleive it was in a 510 not 240.

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yeah, i have an engine too, now how about a dyno chart?

i never said it was impossible to do, just that no one really does it because it's too expensive/time consuming.

i'd love to see some more info on your car. specifically, a mod list of course, what it's used for, and what the power delivery is like.

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new_to_drift
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haha.now that nelson has brought that car up,cdlong is suddenly saying he didnt say that a 200hp NA KA24E was possible.Oh and nelson that is a KA24E not DE.But thank you for posting that,i was just looking for it and was just about to post it before i saw your post.

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Its possible, I doubt that KAE above is streetable. 298whp NA = insane gas.

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Like I said, there are a lot of >200whp NA KAs. Most of them, however, are not in 240s.


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