09 G37x sedan loaner

[tigerclaws1318]

I went to drop my car off at the dealer and they did have 2 new 09 G37x sedan but wasnt quiet sure if they were actually loaner vehicle. So my service advisor gives me keys to a g35x sedan and after 2 minutes of driving off vds, slip and brake light all came on all the same time. I called my service advisor and told him the issue and he said they'll take a look at it and said it probably needed brake fluid. Since all the loaners were 08 model im sure the reason the fluid is low is cause the pads are worn down a lot and they just wanted to top it off and let me go. That would be a unsafe and stupid move considering the pedal pulsates like crazy. So I told them i really didnt have time to wait and finally decided to give me the keys to the g37x. The car was still almost brand new. 1000 miles on it and still new car smell. No stickers on the back window indicating it was a loaner.It is unbelievely a fast car. Compared to the 3.5 liter the 3.7 liter feels like its in a different league and plus it has a 7 speed gearbox. For 09 the heater seats have a knob you turn for 6 different heated setting compared to last years low and high setting. After driving it, it kinda made me consider trading it in. But sadly after 2 days with it, it was time to return it back.

[fiveliterbeater]

funny you mention it because i just picked up this morning an 09 G37 sedan as a loaner car as they work on my M for warranty work. am i crazy or is the G37 sedan faster than my M? it definetly feels like it. what do you guys think?

[NightWatch]

There have been a number of these posts and I think we've determined that the G37 is faster. The output of the 3.7 isn't that far off from the V8 in the M45 and the car is considerably lighter. Plus the shift points in the new 7 speed transmission are a lot closer so it maximizes the power transfer. But why are you comparing based on "speed"? Is that what the M was designed for? Or was it designed as a high quality luxury sedan with a sporty attitude? The build and matieral quality of the M far exceedes the G and that's why people buy this car. If you want throw you back in your seat acceleration with cornering ability like the car is on rails, then buy the G37 Coupe Sport. Thats what it was designed for.

[ken in az]

The G37's are way faster than the M45.

Most people think the M45 (including me until recently) should run 14.1 - 14.3 @ 99 - 100mph

there may be a handful out there that do, but in reality most are 14.5 14.7 sec and 95 - 97mph runners which even puts the previous year G35 with the HR engine faster than us.

Oh well...that's what mods are for right...and whoever said the M wasn't designed for speed is a gosh durned idiot - that is what they designed it for back in 2005 but now everything is faster than it. Infiniti wanted to roll out the M50 with 390hp but BMW stepped in and called shenanigans saying it would sound too much like the M5 and won a lawsuit protecting the name otherwise we'd have an M50 in the lineup for 09 as well.

[NightWatch]

Oh well...that's what mods are for right...and whoever said the M wasn't designed for speed is a gosh durned idiot - that is what they designed it for back in 2005 but now everything is faster than it. Infiniti wanted to roll out the M50 with 390hp but BMW stepped in and called shenanigans saying it would sound too much like the M5 and won a lawsuit protecting the name otherwise we'd have an M50 in the lineup for 09 as well.

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Trust me... If Infiniti was marketing the M to people who wanted a high performance vehicle, we'd all be driving 400 HP M45's now. If Infiniti can get 330 HP out of the 6, they could get 400 out of the 8. But that is not who Infiniti markets to...

[ken in az]

Trust me... If Infiniti was marketing the M to people who wanted a high performance vehicle, we'd all be driving 400 HP M45's now. If Infiniti can get 330 HP out of the 6, they could get 400 out of the 8. But that is not who Infiniti markets to...

Trust me, what you just said makes no sense at all. If infiniti didn't market the M to the performance oriented individuals then why do they sell the "sport" model? Why did the car come out with more horsepower than any other car in it's price range or even above it for it's time? I'm not saying that people who buy this car are expecting it to be an M5 contender by no means nor are people who buy the car planning on modifying it to become one. I'd say most who purchased this car new purchased it on a lease program and have no intentions to modify the car. But to say the people who buy the car are not in it for it's performance - then you sir are crazy!

BTW - The 2009 M would have had the 5 liter 390hp V8 that the FX50 has if it weren't for BMW.

On a side note - Jatco is the name of the Transmission company that provides the transmissions for most Nissan and Infiniti models (interestingly enough is actually Nissan's transmission division) just released a hybrid transmission - this is the transmission that infiniti will be using since the anouncement that all infiniti models will be hybrid vehicles, plan on the HP levels increasing and fuel economy increasing as well.

[NightWatch]

Trust me, what you just said makes no sense at all. If infiniti didn't market the M to the performance oriented individuals then why do they sell the "sport" model? Why did the car come out with more horsepower than any other car in it's price range or even above it for it's time? I'm not saying that people who buy this car are expecting it to be an M5 contender by no means nor are people who buy the car planning on modifying it to become one. I'd say most who purchased this car new purchased it on a lease program and have no intentions to modify the car. But to say the people who buy the car are not in it for it's performance - then you sir are crazy!.

No Sir! Yous da one whos been hittin the pipe If what you are saying were true then Infiniti would have dropped the 3.7 liter enging in the M35 when they upgraded the G35 to give it "more performance". There would be dozens of aftermarket vendors offering all kinds of perfomance mods for the M if the demand were there, the fact is, there's virtually nothing. Why? Because the VAST majority of M owners are more interested in the luxury of their vehicles than high performance. They don't want to tinker with their cars, they just want to drive it and be comfortable. They want the reliability that Infiniti offers, the comfort, the electronic gizmos, they like the styling and those that want a little extra flair go with the sport package. They don't really care if the engine has 400 HP or 300 HP. If M owners are more concerned about performance than luxury, comfort and reliability then why do M35's outsell M45's 3 to 1?? Gee, if they want performance, then they should be buying the most powerful M they can get shouldn't they? No sir, you're the one that's about a half bubble off plumb. You're speaking of what you'd like to be true, not what actually is I'm afraid.

[ken in az]

Uhh dude....seriously? I'm not gonna argue with you. If you honestly believe that a buyer is going to buy a car based on luxury items only then keep on living in your box. I have no inclination of changing your viewpoint but to put out a completely asinine statement such as that people who buy these cars don't care about performance is completely stupid.

Oh, and if you read my post I said that people who buy these cars don't "buy" them. They lease them with no intentions of ever modifying them you tool.

Another thing that proves you don't know anything about what you are talking about is the fact that you are asking me questions you should know the answers too. Why did the M35 not get the G37 engine? Hrmm, I don't know maybe because they were trying to sell more G's since it is the most popular car they sell, maybe to use it as a test bed before they put it in their luxury vehicle, maybe because it cost a frick load of cash to re-tool all the plants to install the engine into said vehicle, and I could sit here for probably a day and a half telling you that you know nothing about the topic we speak, but in the end you would still think you are right - so have a great day in your blissfulness.

Oh yeah - one more thing - the M35 is cheaper and get better gasmileage you a$$!

[zozoka1212]

LOL

You guys like little kids on the playground.

J/K

Wait till you se the 2010 line up. M will get the 3.7 engine and the hp will be around 350.

But wait the G will get it too. So don't get too exited. I am not sure about the m45 going m50 but I think it will.

do you have the article for the m5 sounds like m50? I remember reading someting about it. But I recall it was more abouyt the M not about the # behind it.

Bustard BMW not even the same category.

Peace

[NightWatch]

LOL

You guys like little kids on the playground.

He started it!

[ken in az]

I'm sure there are way more articles on this subject but here's one I found from a web search -

http://www.autoblog.com/2007/0...er-m/

[maxnix]

You are both correct. But the new 7 speed does give the edge to the G37 (sedan is lighter than the coupe), at least until the M50 arrives in 2010.

M45 might as well be planters on Infiniti lots right now.

[zozoka1212]

Thanks for the article. What a BS that is maaan. Nothing better to do than lets screw with these guys today. BMW.