09 G37 Double Din

[cornelius]

Is it possible to install a double din system into a 09 g37 without doing any custom fabrication? I couldnt find any mounts or partsanywhere. Has anyone done this?

[joe603]

Probably not yet...I checked on Grubbs performance and they didn't have anything listed.

[smockers83]

I have a feeling that it would be hard to do. I have a feeling because I have a feeling all of the computer stuff on the screen and the screen itself is all integrated. It could be done, but I think right now it would have to be done with a high price tag.

[cornelius]

I thought it might be difficult because Ive never seen anyone do it...

Ive seen an aftermarket navigation black box (Garmin SVC 53) used with the factory LCD. Does anyone know of a navigation system with RCA outs, that has navigation, radio, mp3, etc..

[pfarmer]

I thought it might be difficult because Ive never seen anyone do it...

Ive seen an aftermarket navigation black box (Garmin SVC 53) used with the factory LCD. Does anyone know of a navigation system with RCA outs, that has navigation, radio, mp3, etc..

A laptop or other hardened PC running Delorme's Topo, as well as anything else you can have a PC do.

Perry

[cornelius]

The pda is a good and most practical idea, but I would like to be able to change channels and functions with either a remote or onthe screen.

Im thinking of doing a touch screen overlay and connecting thatto a car audio with navigation. Im not sure if that is possible either,but that is my wishful thinking.

[pfarmer]

The pda is a good and most practical idea, but I would like to be able to change channels and functions with either a remote or onthe screen.

Im thinking of doing a touch screen overlay and connecting thatto a car audio with navigation. Im not sure if that is possible either,but that is my wishful thinking.

I am not speaking about a pda, I am speaking of a full blown pc. With that you can have navigation, radio, and pretty much anything depending on just how far you may want to go including rolling your own hardware.

You could, however I would not go the RCA route. If doing a custom install such as this I would pretty much gut what you have and either use the current control hardware, or again replace completely. Everything the on board system now does could be replaced with such a system and if desired look completely stock using the controls you have now and a screen of the same size and configuration. It is a matter of how far you really want to go.

Cost isn't nearly as much as you may think once you purchase the hardened PC which is highly desirable in a vehicle due to temperature and shock considerations. Once that is out of the way cost comes down to just how much you desire to farm out to others. Using what I am now currently typing on (tablet pc) would come close to fitting if relocation of the air conditioning ducts on my 08 were relocated and would provide a touch screen.

I know this sounds like a lot of work and it is to fully replace the current system, however the results would look much more professional then tacking something on the RCA inputs which have a lot of limitations when you desire to display details such as navigation. Using the RCA inputs the resolution that I have previously calculated out in regard to using computer generated screens on standard RCA type of displays is something like 728x480. This may be satisfactory for you needs, just good to know the limitations that may show up in areas such as text, etc. I would suggest that you consider generating various desired types of displays on a computer set to this resolution and then connect this to your RCA input to see exactly what is possible. It may surprise you one way or the other, one that it is fine, the other not so fine. If satisfactory then it is relatively easy to bypass the RCA lockout for your needs.

A touch screen overlay certainly would be possible, since that really is what is available stock with navigation. Using the pc idea it would matter little if the touch screen is on the pc display screen or an external one since it could be an overlay.

One advantage concerningh the navigation is completely new versions of something like Delorme's Topo run about $70 with very frequent updates available whereas the build in navigation update costs are nearly $200 and come out probably every 2 years.

Perry

[audtatious]

Not at this point. Most are simply adding on after the HU.

[cornelius]

That would certainly be awesome and it seems as though the full systemsdont cost that much either. The only problem is the installation. I wouldnt know where to start. And I have a feeling this will require many sleepless nights of fine tuning.

[pfarmer]

That would certainly be awesome and it seems as though the full systemsdont cost that much either. The only problem is the installation. I wouldnt know where to start. And I have a feeling this will require many sleepless nights of fine tuning.

The basic block diagrams are available for the stock systems. To me the hardest part is identifing all the interactions of the systems that connect into it such as A/C, etc. Basic screen layouts would then be created, nothing pretty, just the necessities. You need to output simply what is absolutely needed to satisfy the various expectations of the systems. I believe a good deal of this could be done with the original system in place until everything is proven and then the massive swap out takes place.

From what I have seen looking at the various inputs and outputs this is all feesible but takes some time and a whole lot of patience. Buy the wife or girl friend a 'G' and practice on hers first then do yours. That way at least you'll have a set of wheels and you have time to get it right on the beta car.

I actually have been considering a little of this using the current display and basic systems in mine, that is add on what is not present now more then replacing. For example there are systems available and actually installed on Infinitis now that provide detailed information such as temperatures, etc. Instead of buying one however I have been thinking of rolling my own and adding into the menu structure by substitution. That is for example the Info screen. You hijack the info button, have it bring up an entirely different menu by accessing your add on cpu with additional functions and from that menu you could then select the original info screen with the original functions. At the moment I believe most of these extra boxes interface through the RCA ports and work by simply bypassing the 'vehicle is in motion' logic. My goal would be to also bypass this logic, fairly easy, however not rely on the aux inputs for the add on.

Perry

[Sentientbydesign]

Perry,

I really like the way you think. I've considered a carputer for quite some time now. I mainly wanted a custom music server, but you have a great point. Getting something like a USB to OBDII connector would allow you to use all of the vehicle data and have it accesible from the computer screen. The possibilities are virtually endless.

Decoding proprietary data might be a bit of an issue for some of us though...

[kmech_7]

LOL....I have wanted to put a carputer in my car for about 2 years now....I think lazyness stepped in though.

I would use it for 3 things-1. My music2. I would need a 9 pin cable for my piggy back ECU3. OBD II to usb con.....

I think this is a good idea but there is limmited space in the g console for this. I think I would have to rebuild my cutom box in the truck and fit it there with a double din touch mounted in the radio spot.....

just my 2 cents....

[cornelius]

Where can I get the block diagram? It would be great if therewere schematics as well. If I have the schematics, I can just convert that to code and use that to emulatethe stock controller.

[pfarmer]

Where can I get the block diagram? It would be great if therewere schematics as well. If I have the schematics, I can just convert that to code and use that to emulatethe stock controller.

Note, maybe not for 2009 but check the faqs.

Perry