08 skyline wheels/tires/brakes on 1st gen s13? any help?

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ssspssh
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i wanna do this conversion so bad. i still have 4lug stuff with stock wheels and tires with a monster sr. how hard is this still like the z32 swap? will the spindles work? i know the lines have to be changed...if the brakes fit can i clear these huge 19s? i have adjustables already... help would be greatly appreciated


BippuBoss
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putting on z32 parts are pretty standard when you're looking at putting it on your s13. I think you can fit everything pretty easily over a weekend or something.

DrJuice164
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Are 15" rotors with huge calipers really necessary for any s13 other than the "bling" factor?

ssspssh
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yeah bling is an understatement. i have dibs on a friends stock parts. he has already gone aftermarket on the tires/wheels. his new brakes are in the shop supposedly waiting to be put on. but the new factor, low miles(less than 5000), and unique look appeal. and i know the z32 swap is simple. but if all this is gonna be as cheap then why not try something new. all i need to know is if the spindles will fit and the tires will clear.

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Black on Gold
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If you want to find out, do it. Not many of us have access to these parts. If you really want to make a name for yourself then be creative and be the first to do this.

ssspssh
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yeah man thanks. ppl be hatn. haha. yeah imma try it. im sure i will have to have lines made. this may add to rotating weight some but im light as hell anyway and if i skimp it wont be on brakes. this wont be the only one-of mod on this car.

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Black on Gold
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Thats good. If it works out for you thats awsome. Not sure if others will have the $$ for this but if anyone comes across a cheap pair it would be nice as an option. Good luck

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ssspssh wrote:yeah bling is an understatement. i have dibs on a friends stock parts. he has already gone aftermarket on the tires/wheels. his new brakes are in the shop supposedly waiting to be put on. but the new factor, low miles(less than 5000), and unique look appeal. and i know the z32 swap is simple. but if all this is gonna be as cheap then why not try something new. all i need to know is if the spindles will fit and the tires will clear.
Are you serious?

The GTR hasn't even hit showrooms in the US, no one has a freaking clue if anything fits anything.

You will need a custom CNC adapter as I can certainly guarantee you that it will never fit an OEM US spindle, the damn rotor is bigger than the stock wheels that came on the car.

This is a performance downgrade on anything short of an insanely fast race S13. I'd even question the need for 15" rotors on that.

My logic tells me that this is BS anyways... most people with money tend to be friends with people that can spell above a 5th grade level and don't utilize the word "hatin".

ssspssh
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The rotor is not bigger than the stock wheels. Maybe my car is really fast. Maybe not. You dont even know me. Maybe I have access to a cnc. Most people with money are friendly to people who are friendly to them. I am not here to impress you.I am trying to get help with something. I apperciate your help.

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ssspssh wrote:The rotor is not bigger than the stock wheels. Maybe my car is really fast. Maybe not. You dont even know me. Maybe I have access to a cnc. Most people with money are friendly to people who are friendly to them. I am not here to impress you.I am trying to get help with something. I apperciate your help.
I don't need to know you. Someone with access to a CNC and the ability to utilize it wouldn't even need to ask this question to begin with. You asked this question because you don't know how to go about installing them.

It's common logic to assume that if the car was designed to clear (at the spindle) a 15" diameter wheel then the spindle itself is not going to accept 15" diameter brakes. This means, quite clearly, that you will have to design some caliper relocation brackets for the calipers.

If your friend has a GTR, why don't you take a little drive and check what kind of fitting is on the brake lines. Why are you asking us? Again, the GTR hasn't even hit the US market.

Your car is not fast enough to need 15" brakes.

Your answer is this: Get the brakes first, get some aftermarket 5-lug hubs for an S13, install the hubs, put the rotor on and start measuring for a CNC'd caliper mount. Once you have that CNC'd then you can mount everything up. Then buy the brake lines you need, they will either be IF (inverted flare) or a banjo fitting. Order them for an S13, and if the banjo / IF is a different diameter then you'll need to special order for that diameter. Odds are the GTR will utilize a two piece brake line like other wishbone Nissans so you will not be able to use it's lines.

The GTR spindle will not fit your car, it uses a completely different suspension design.

You will want to use a different master cylinder, and you will have HORRIBLE brake balance. You will notice this if you ever track the car.

ssspssh
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yeah you are right. the brackets are inevitable. i was already aware of that. i didnt think my master cylinder would actually support. you are right i dont know how to install these. the spindles are way different. i think the z32 is gonna be the way to go. i dont want to have my car sitting still so long just for brakes. but the wheels and tires i will try.

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ssspssh wrote:yeah you are right. the brackets are inevitable. i was already aware of that. i didnt think my master cylinder would actually support. you are right i dont know how to install these. the spindles are way different. i think the z32 is gonna be the way to go. i dont want to have my car sitting still so long just for brakes. but the wheels and tires i will try.
Your car will be alot easier to drive, and just as quick with Z32 brakes. Use a track pad, and if that fades, add ducting. If that fades, then you'll know you need bigger brakes.

15" is just asking for trouble unless you are building a magazine car.

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Stock GTR wheels are 20s IIRC. GL: fitting that on a 13.
Modified by ArticDragon192 at 2:29 PM 5/26/2008


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