08 rogue won't come out of 1st

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Rsabcd
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My 08 rogue has been great, never had an issue. The cvt issue i tbought has illuded me until 2 days ago. I went to back out of my driveway and it jerked a little almost like a brake was sticking. Drove fine after that, sifted smoothly and all. I was at a stop light and rolled too far so i reversed a little and put it in neutral to roll back a few feet. The car slowed super fast, again almost like a brake was being applied. I finished my errand and headed home. In front of my house i tested rolling in neutral the car slowed and stopped quickly like a brake was stuck, when i shut the engine off it rolled fine. I jacked it up brakes were fine. Wheel spun like it should in neutral engine off. With the engine running i could barely turn it. Same with the drivers side. Not awd.

Then, i drove it again and it wouldnt come out of 1st.
Ive had no other symptoms of transmission problem although it did make the whirling whiny sound between 60-70 since ive had it. Was told its normal, steel belt something or other. Never had "limp mode" never lost power while driving on hwy, no check engine lights . Is there anything i can check before i bring it to dealership. If its not the trans, I'd like to attempt the fix myself.

Brake lights work, so i assume the brake sensor is good.


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darylzero
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Did you check the level of the trans fluid?

remember you have a 10yr/120K mile warranty on the transmission so if something is wrong with it they will replace it free.

Rsabcd
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Yes fluid good, no burnt smell, smooth...

Car has a tramsmission cooler, came wirh the car.
Pevious owner (my dad) meticulously maintained it, ive had it 6 months and also maintained it.

I just do not want to have it towed there only to be told its a flux capacitor mufler bearing sensor and get stuck with the towing and diagnosis bill. If its not the tramsmission I wpuld like to attemptattempt to fix it myself or take it to local mechanic, dealership is 40-50 miles away, I'd have to pay to have it towed there and back to my mechanic, or pay dealership prices.

I did not have any of the symptoms that ive read about here or anywhere else online. The car has run fantasic up until the other day. No limp mode, no losing power, no slipping, it was perfect then it wasnt. This is why I'm trying to find out if it could be something else, i could not find anyone with a tramsmission failure with a similar set of circumstances.

In my heart I believe its the transmission, I'm just making sure. Just had to replace my central A/C and my dryer... funds are a bit too low to shell out extra hundreds if i can help it.

Anyway, if it is the tramsmission and they replace it is tje new transmission a duplicate of the old one or have they tweaked it? Anyone know?

How long approximately does it take nissan to diagnose and replace the tramsmission?

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darylzero
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Rsabcd wrote:Yes fluid good, no burnt smell, smooth...



Anyway, if it is the tramsmission and they replace it is tje new transmission a duplicate of the old one or have they tweaked it? Anyone know?

How long approximately does it take nissan to diagnose and replace the tramsmission?
How many miles do you have?

You would get a new transmission that is exactly the same as the trans in the car now. I believe it comes with a 12,000 mile warranty.

I believe they would be able to diagnose it pretty quick. It also depends on the dealer, if are they shady mofo's.

To replace it depends on how long it would take to get one to your dealer and then for them to install.

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there is no "1st" or any gear. its a cvt remember?

head to the dealer. odds are the transmission is done for or going.

Rsabcd
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darylzero wrote:
Rsabcd wrote:Yes fluid good, no burnt smell, smooth...



Anyway, if it is the tramsmission and they replace it is tje new transmission a duplicate of the old one or have they tweaked it? Anyone know?

How long approximately does it take nissan to diagnose and replace the tramsmission?
How many miles do you have?

You would get a new transmission that is exactly the same as the trans in the car now. I believe it comes with a 12,000 mile warranty.

I believe they would be able to diagnose it pretty quick. It also depends on the dealer, if are they shady mofo's.

To replace it depends on how long it would take to get one to your dealer and then for them to install.
88k is still under warranty just dont want another surprise bill so I'm trying to make sure.

I was hoping they made some modifications to tje replacement tramsmissions, seems like that is the thing to do. I guess its a crap shoot with them. If i get another 7.5 years out of the new one I guess I should be happy. Maybe i should drive it a year and trade it in. The car itself is in pristeen condition except the hood, paint issues and exterior drivers side door handle broke, zip tied on now.
ImStricken06 wrote:there is no "1st" or any gear. its a cvt remember?

head to the dealer. odds are the transmission is done for or going.
I know, I didnt call it a gear. There is a 1st. 2nd, 3rd,4th, 5th and 6th, I guess they are speeds? I dont know, speeds sounds weird. I can manually, well i used to be able to, shift and the appropriate numeral would show on my dash.

I guess ill have it towed Monday if i don't find anything this weekend.

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wait you can't drive it at all? I missed that part. It won't get past the imaginary 1st gear?

If that's the case your trans is most likely shot.

If a family member has AAA you may be able to use it.

Post a video so we can hear the transmission even if it's not moving

Rsabcd
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darylzero wrote:wait you can't drive it at all? I missed that part. It won't get past the imaginary 1st gear?

If that's the case your trans is most likely shot.

If a family member has AAA you may be able to use it.

Post a video so we can hear the transmission even if it's not moving
Ha.. its not imaginary, I swear its a 6 speed. I can shift it via paddles or move the shifer, from D to the left to manual and shift up or down grom 1 up to 6. I swear its there. I can drive the car, in reverse or in imaginary 1st.

Ill have my son video or record it tomorrow. No real significant noises though. Its going Monday to the dealership. I'm 99.85% convinced its the transmission.

Heres a question i just thougjt of earlier, lets say this happened while i was on I95 and the car went into imaginary 1st and redlined and it blew the engine. Do i get a new engine because the transmission failure caused my engine to blow? And no, I'm not thinking about driving it until that happens. Not yet anyway....kidding, I'm just curious. Seems to me they'd have to huh?

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bud, you dont have gears in a cvt. you have simulated ratio's. the numbers on your dash are fake. its simply the cvt not changing ratio on the cones.

you need to go to the dealer. nothing we can help you with

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ImStricken06 wrote:bud, you dont have gears in a cvt. you have simulated ratio's. the numbers on your dash are fake. its simply the cvt not changing ratio on the cones.

you need to go to the dealer. nothing we can help you with

I know there are no gears, its a steel belt on pullies that changes size. This simulates the changing of gears. I get that that. I realy do. I am a fan of tje cvt, just not tje one in my Rogue, my son's Sentra has a cvt too, no issues and apparently not as sensitive as the one in my Rogue. I never said it has gears. For the purpose of my post however, calling it 1st speed or 1st gear explains the issue i am having.


My manuel calls it gears, i just looked. It say the car will shift into first gear when slowing to a stop. I know, you know, and Nissan knows its not 1st gear but we understand what is meant.

The car is going Monday morning, as I said before i was just trying to either confirm its the trans or if not the transmission find out so i dont have to pay to have it towed 45 miles to Nissan and get stuck with the towing bill and Nissian working on the car, money is tight rigjt now. I was hoping someone else had the same symptoms and i could confirm..... oh it just hit me....

People have said their car gas had high rpms and low speed, that is, for all intents and purposes, like being stuck in 1st or low.

I really wasn't being argumentative and i appreciate the help.

Maybe i can get the car up there today.

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Update time...

I got the car towed to Nissan today, I had some things come up that delayed my being able to afford the tow. My central air went out twice and being in South Florida in July ac is a necessity. Anyway, I called Nissan this morning, they gave me a tow company to use that bills Nissan so it was no money out of pocket. The CVT was confirmed bad, new one was ordered and will be there tomorrow, 50/50 chance of getting it back tomorrow, if not Tuesday AM. I guess i should have called the dealership Monday.

The service center closes early tomorrow, so if rhe tech doing my car gets it done I'll hqve it. I asked if i was allowed to pay him extra if he needed to stay late to get it done. My thoughts were im going to have to rent a car so of i can pay the tech less than 4 days rental I would, I explained this and they hooked me up with a rental. Ironically, its a Chevy Malibu. Its a nice car but i think i like driving my Rogue better.

So far I've been really impressed with customer service I've received. They gave me an estimate on some other things that will need attention. Now I know how they can afford to give this levelthis level of customer service.

Replace broken exterior drivers
door handle. (I have it zip tied in place) $445.00

Cv joint/axle front left and right. $1678.00

One other part im drawing a blank
Right now, by the axles, the bushings
are going. $1129.00

Total. $3252.00

I can do this myself for around $400.00/450.00 using aftermarket/remanufactured or used parts.

I don't know which shocked me more, the price of the axles or the 1 door handle. They said they had no acsess to aftermarket cv joint axels poorvplanning on my part, i knew the boots were cracked. I wish i could get them locally in thethe morning. They are already off the car, oh well.

Also, I was told that the transmission that is is going on the car is not exactly the same as the old ones. It was a different part #, They have improved them. I asked what the improvement was and did not get a straight answer, just that a part or a few parts were improved. I asked when the improvement was made, again i did not get a straight answer. I don't know if I believe this but, I hope its true. I got 8 years 90,000 out of the old one so...

Overal the car has been great, I love driving it. Nissan took care of me, better than I anticipated

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nice to hear your story... My story is a little similar... on wed i was driving the car in hot 90 degree weather in nyc... i noticed when my ac is on the car bogs down a little.. i was at a light and it turned green i put my foot on the pedal and the was not moving... i floored it and the car was going really slow and the rpm were high at about 2k.. what can it be... i was freaking out bc i have my children in the back seat. i got to the mall and let the car sit for a while about 4 hours and the car drove normal... what can it be

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08roguesl wrote:nice to hear your story... My story is a little similar... on wed i was driving the car in hot 90 degree weather in nyc... i noticed when my ac is on the car bogs down a little.. i was at a light and it turned green i put my foot on the pedal and the was not moving... i floored it and the car was going really slow and the rpm were high at about 2k.. what can it be... i was freaking out bc i have my children in the back seat. i got to the mall and let the car sit for a while about 4 hours and the car drove normal... what can it be
If you read through this thread you will see that these CVT cannot handle hot weather. You were probably in fail safe mode, a f*** stupid thing Nissan did to protect the CVT from being damaged at the risk of the lives of the people in the car.

If you have the paddle shifters on your Rogue you should then have the transmission cooler, which would of actually helped you out.

Have you ever serviced the CVT fluid? How many miles on the Rogue?

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Never been serviced... i bought it with 70k and now has 84 k dealer want to charge 250 for transmission fluid change.... I know it has the warranty in the transmission


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