08' G35 vs. 06' & up M45?

[M4T5]

Which one is faster? 08' G35 or 06' & up M45?? I just drove an 08' G35. I could swear it felt faster than my 07' M45....... That's made me sad.......

J

[tytamto]

Same here. But I drove a '08 G35X and it felt quicker than my '06 M45. However, I think that it feels quick because it is a lot louder and rougher. It should be slower, based on numbers posted by car mags.

I did not like the interior though. Cheap looking plastics. Also, I could not sit behind myself in the back seat. Not enough room for me. But the car felt more sporty then mine, which I did like.

[M4T5]

Same here. But I drove a '08 G35X and it felt quicker than my '06 M45. However, I think that it feels quick because it is a lot louder and rougher. It should be slower, based on numbers posted by car mags.

I did not like the interior though. Cheap looking plastics. Also, I could not sit behind myself in the back seat. Not enough room for me. But the car felt more sporty then mine, which I did like.

I'm not so sure if our M45's are faster. It really seemed to push me back into the seat alot more than my M45 does. I know it's louder. That was the first thing I noticed. The second thing I noticed was wow, this thing really moves. I had to step out and look at the back to see if it was the G37. Nope, G35 all the way. It is smaller and interior is cheaper, but it really delivers that all around sports car feel. I would have to line up with one to find that out for sure though. If I buy another Infiniti for my wife it will be the G37.....unless there is a M47!

J

[zozoka1212]

The 07+ G sedan is faster but not much faster than the m45 on straight line. Around the track where it shines even more. The G was built as a entry sport/luxury sedan. The m45 was built as a luxury sedan with sportiness.

Interior feels cheaper because the G is cheaper than the M45. Imagine how you would feel if the interior was pair with the M. LOL You got what you paid for. Being said right now selling some of the 08 g35xs for 32k. That is a lot cheaper than the M45.

Lot more aftermarket parts for the g than for the M. The g with twin T is entering in the under high 3 second cars from 0-60 and mid 11 second on 1/4 mile. Used 5 lbs of boost. It is bada$$.

Also the awd version of the G is faster than the RWD version. That's what we noticing more and more on the G forums. Even the new g37 coupe with the awd is faster than the rwd version. Not sure if it is same with the M45 vs M45X.

http://www.roadandtrack.com/ar...drive

zozo

[tigerclaws1318]

i kinda agree with you guys, i have 08 g35x sedan as a loaner car this car really does move. as first i thought it didnt feel that fast until you really punch it and give it lots of revs. the engine revs all the way to 7500rpm which is pretty amazing for a v6. thats the other thing i noticed the engine is eager to rev higher than the m45 and if you leave it in drive sport mode the engine will rev higher and hold the gear muchh longer for a sportier drive. the steering wheel feels really nice too. overall i have fallen in love with it but not as much as my m45. lol

[jbillion]

I have to chime in as an 04 M45 owner. I have had an 07 g35X and an 07 M35 as a loaner and I think my car feels a little faster then either one. The G is a bit more explosive, right off the line, but the M really hauls a$$ from 40mph+. Also, the V6 engine seems to be straining to get the power, where the V8 does it with ease, and much more quietly and smoothly.

Just my $0.02.

[GreenQ45a]

I have taken the 08 G out on loan a few times and I have noticed that the G seems to start out in 1st. My 06 M35s seems to start in 2nd.

I have also noticed if you use manual mode and drive it hard for about 2 miles it will change the learning algorithm and shifts faster and engages the Continuously Variable Valve Timing earlier when placed back in auto mode.

[M4T5]

I have taken the 08 G out on loan a few times and I have noticed that the G seems to start out in 1st. My 06 M35s seems to start in 2nd.

Huh???? Your kidding right?If any car starts out in 2nd from a stop, then there is something wrong with the transmission. Is that really what you said or were you trying to say something else????

J

[GreenQ45a]

I said "Seems" to start out in 2nd... (Can't tell like you could on the old 91-92 G50\Q45's vs. the 93+)

There are many cars that use 2nd gear start. MB, BMW, and Infiniti did it into the 90's not sure anymore..

Q45Tech is the man to ask.. I think he told me lots of BMW's & MB's as well as other Lux cars did for a smoother take off.. Could be wrong though..

[zozoka1212]

I have to chime in as an 04 M45 owner. I have had an 07 g35X and an 07 M35 as a loaner and I think my car feels a little faster then either one. The G is a bit more explosive, right off the line, but the M really hauls a$$ from 40mph+. Also, the V6 engine seems to be straining to get the power, where the V8 does it with ease, and much more quietly and smoothly.

Just my $0.02.

The older m45's are over a second slower than the second generation G. The newer 06+ M45's are faster than the older ones and closer to the 07+G.

zozo

[MagicM]

we all just need to wait until they stick in the 5.0Liter V8 in the M with 400+ horses, then we;ll give the g37/g35 a good chase.

[tytamto]

Is the gearing different in the G35(X) when compared to the M45? That would also be a reason why it would feel livelier. Judging by magazine reviews and test numbers, the G35(X) is a tad slower on paper than the M45. But the whole sensory experience seems to prove otherwise.

Power to weight ratio figures:

M45: 11.98lb/hp 0-60: 5.1-5.3s (various sources)G35: 11.43lb/hp 0-60: 5.4-5.6s (automatic, various sources)G35X: 12.11 lb/hp 0-60: 5.2-5.5s (automatic, various sources)

I do understand that you get what you pay for. And I agree with the fact that the M should feel more posh, and should use better quality plastics and trim for the interior. However, Audi's interior, even at an entry level A3/A4 is more impressive than the G's interior. The plastics are of higher quality, they look and feel more expensive. Some would say that Audi is not a fair comparison, since they are always praised for best fit and finish when it comes to interiors/dash. But the same is true for Lexus cars, where the interior materials are nice than the G. Just an observation, nothing against the car. The G is a tremendous value for the dollar... excellent performance, sporty handling, tight steering, impressive nimbleness etc.

And I do love the fact that the V6 will rev to over 7500 RPM - not an easily achieved task for a large six pot motor. On top of that, you can find '08 G35's for around $25k (around 20k miles), which is a heck of a deal!

[zozoka1212]

http://www.performancecarnews....Table

I was cross shoping when I was looking for a new car. The Audi4 and the Lexus was more expensive when equiped the same as the G and they are slower. Audi is mid 6 second car. That is far behind the sport sedans numbers. If you need something close to 5 seconds you need the S badge what cost you another 10k. As you said it has a good interior quality feel but it is boring(europian style all the same). Now I understand it is something personal preference. But that was one of the deciding factor for me. It did not have the wow factor once you look at it. Lexus same way AWD gs cost 10k more and in my opinion the exterior style is not as good. I love the is250. I think it is awesome looking car but slow. If I really wanted I could of ask for the wood trim on the G but I like the washi trim better. Maybe I have to age more or something. LOL

I know I am one picky person. LOL

we all just need to wait until they stick in the 5.0Liter V8 in the M with 400+ horses, then we;ll give the g37/g35 a good chase.

Oh yeah it should be faster than the new g37sedan. The new G sedan is actually under 5 seconds now. But I think if they will be able to keep the weight down with the 5l engine than should be no problem to be as fast as the new G or faster.Most likely faster.

Hope so anyways. The competition closing on the M. Just see the new Genesis sedan.

zozo

[jbillion]

I am driving an 07 G35x right now and I have to re-evaluate my position on this. It feels a LOT faster off the line. Maybe the last one I had was driven slower and the transmission learned to be slower. This one hauls A$$.

[M4T5]

Place that G35 transmission in the M45 and I bet you the story changes. We are bound down by the transmission. The ole 5-speed slush box is a hp/ tq robbing machine too. If we can get the VB upgrade done, I bet us M45 owners can place a beating on those G35's...and maybe...just maybe the new G37...but that's a long shot. We might need exhaust, VB upgrade, and tuning to beat those.

J

[ken in az]

Place that G35 transmission in the M45 and I bet you the story changes. We are bound down by the transmission. The ole 5-speed slush box is a hp/ tq robbing machine too. If we can get the VB upgrade done, I bet us M45 owners can place a beating on those G35's...and maybe...just maybe the new G37...but that's a long shot. We might need exhaust, VB upgrade, and tuning to beat those.

J

We will get there - oh yes...we will get there

[Mark Linkous]

Hope you are right. Having an updated transmission would be swell. Unfortunately, weight is also going against all M's regardless of generation.Good too see some G folks around here. Also, every time I get a loaner, I am reminded how much faster a G is.

The weird thing is, when I purchased my M, I could have also purchased a brand new 6MT G35 Sedan for the exact same price out the door. There was only one 2006 G remaining at the time and it was Serengeti Sand.The color was the deal breaker on the G. I was tortured however. I knew the G dynamically was a far superior car. However, there was something oddly endearing about the 2004 M. And it had laser cruise, heated/cooled seats, nav ,etc... While the G was a base version with Moonroof. The first generation G interior did not do it for me. The current generation is greatly improved however.Cheers,ML

[ken in az]

I don't think the 2008 g35 auto is faster, if it is it is just by a small margin but nothing like it seems when you drive the g35 auto.

the g35 6mt may be a different story, but the auto is pretty much spot on with the M45.

The G just seems peppier because the higher stall torque converter and the higher rpm engine. even though it is only 500rpm's more than the M45 the powerband is totally different and the M45 has way more torque down low to fill the void between the upper revs of the powerband. And don't forget about the rear axle ratio is higher in the g35 at 3.69 vs 3.34 for the M45. Oh yeah, and it is almost 700lbs lighter too - lol

The g35 also is a buzz box compared to how quiet and smooth the M45 is. This increased noise can attribute to the sensation of speed.

I bet if it is faster it is only faster by a tenth or two in the quarter and less 0-60.

Just wait till the exhaust is on your car M4T5 and I bet you'll have a new love for your cars speed....it supposed to pick up poer everywhere. Be careful though because once you have the itch...you might not loose it.