08-09 ALTIMA 2DR CCFL HALO PROJECTOR

[DAAN.]

Let's see the cuttoff and if it's satisfactory, I'm getting these

[surmanm]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ALTIMA-C ... 2765wt_941


honestly i think the black ones look nicer compared to the chrome ones

[coderedk]

they look really good, gonna pick these up in a couple of weeks

[DAAN.]

I asked them
'My car came with the HID setup that attaches the igniter on the bottom of the headlight assembly.
What do you recommend to make this compatible ?'

"Sorry but if you have a factory HID models this light wont fit
aftermarket HID kit you should be fine with it with you will need to drill a hole in the back cover for the wiring
Thanks

Sam"

Didn't hear back from him yet. What do you think he is referring to when he says won't fit ?

[white midori]

i ask Sabersport also, he didn't explain but he said below
sorry we don't see HID version coming soon from the distributor upcoming product list. But I will let them know , hope they will ask the factory to make the HID version soon.

[nctrevor24]

I also found these lights on my own and came here to ask about them to my surprise there was htis thread already! haha I love this site!
I've already messaged the seller and he said this:
If your car had factory hid this headlight will not fit

For aftermarket hid kit you will need a h7 bulbs

Thanks

- unclesamdeal

What if i ultimately decide to drop the HIDs and just use the normal bulbs that come with them can i install these without any modifications?

[alphapig]

Meh

Not really a fan of aftermarket lights, new ones or retrofits. They never look clean enough on the car to me

[Blackmobile]

i'm also curious why he says they won't fit. aren't the stock hid headlights the same as the halogen ones except they have a built in ballast and some slight differences on the inside of the headlight housing? the overall shape of the headlight unit shouldn't be drastically different enough so that removing the old headlight and putting in the new one would cause it to not fit.

i can understand if they say that using the factory hid in the aftermarket ones won't fit, in which case you can just get an aftermarket h7 hid kit and throw it in.

is the wiring for the stock hid headlight the same as a non-hid?

[InfinitiEric]

He's my explanation from what I can gather in this thread:

D2S = HID Stock bulb for the Altima Coupe w/ HIDs

H7 = Halogen bulb required for this aftermarket product

The problem of putting the D2S bulbs inside of this aftermarket headlight will lie with the focal point of the projector, being the headlight projectors are currently focused in with the halogen H7 bubs. With the D2S bulbs, the fillament might be a different distance from the base of the bulb, when compared to the H7 bulb. That being said, it could dramatically take the headlight beam out of focus. The smallest amount of movement forward to aft messes with the focus intensity of the projector, so imagine installing a bulb that wasn't made for that housing.

If you take a look at the threads mentioning people installing HID kits in their OEM headlights, companies make HID bulbs that are spaced to the same measurements as the H7 bulb, which keeps the focus of the stock projector. If you want to do a true HID retrofit, you would need to source a projector made for D2S bulbs and install them into the OEM headlight housing or this aftermarket headlight.

That all being said, I don't see why someone couldn't attempt to see what the result of using the stock HIDs in this aftermarket headlight would be. If it works, it'll make quite a few people happy and will increase the amount of sales for the seller, so both sides will be happy. Someone should try and proffer having a pair of test headlights sent to them for fitment or bringing their Altima Coupe into seller's place of business for a fitment appointment. Many times if the seller is interested in doing so they will then provide the testing products to the person for free as a payment for their time…

[Blackmobile]

sorry but that didn't answer any of the questions i asked. i assume that the stock hid bulb won't fit because of the projector size, but they seem to say that the whole headlight won't fit for those who had stock hids.

if the stock hid headlights have the same wiring as the non hid version, then the whole unit should fit and be plug and play, they just won't have hid anymore. maybe they just didn't write it clearly but they say "DO NOT FIT WITH FACTORY XENON / HID MODEL", sounds to me like they're saying the whole headlight won't fit into the car.

[InfinitiEric]

The HID headlights and non-HID headlights do not have the same wiring at all, though.

[InfinitiEric]

The headlights themselves WILL fit into HID-equipped Altima coupes, but one of the following issues is the reason why they say not to use them:

1) the HID bulb may not fit into the non-HID capsule

2) the wiring from the aftermarket headlight to the OEM HID-equipped vehicle may be different

3) the projector will cause too much glare or distort the display of the HID bulb in the aftermarket headlight

[boystar22]

The physical dimensions of the headlight housing are the same HID to Halogen, the HID's have a place to mount the ballast on the bottom, and all the wiring between the igniter and the ballast is enclosed inside the housing. These aftermarket ones don't have a place to mount the ballast to the bottom and are meant to convert the H11 plug to the H7 this light uses. The plug for the ballast on factory equipped models isn't the same as an H11 plug. So to use the factory HID you'd have to find someplace else to mount the ballast and hope the D2S bulb will fit in the projector. I'm sure they have to label these are not for factory HID because it isn't simply plug-n-play like the description claims on halogen models.

[Blackmobile]

what about if you had stock hids but you're just going to use the new headlights that come with the h7 projectors with bulbs and ditch the stock hid?

[InfinitiEric]

You'll have to rewire the electricity to the halogens. Not sure how complicated that would be.

[jewelz505]

Lmao-wth? this isnt Rocket Surgery ppl..

[ea_da_king]

Aaarrgggg... Come I know some people are ballers here! Somebody be the guinea pig and buy the black housing model and use the stock hid d2s bulb... lol...

[nctrevor24]

Aaarrgggg... Come I know some people are ballers here! Somebody be the guinea pig and buy the black housing model and use the stock hid d2s bulb... lol...

What he said!

[incREDibL3]

they look awesome , but i wouldnt buy em . they look cheap and they look if they would break within a yr ..
ill rather put a lil more money into the product and have dangeris do em for me ! .... thats me tho .

[DAAN.]

Aaarrgggg... Come I know some people are ballers here! Somebody be the guinea pig and buy the black housing model and use the stock hid d2s bulb... lol...

I did that after buying the projector foglights and end up looking like crap

they look awesome , but i wouldnt buy em . they look cheap and they look if they would break within a yr ..
ill rather put a lil more money into the product and have dangeris do em for me ! .... thats me tho .

although your logic holds water ... you get an extra set of lights + no hassle of shipping back and forth + cheaper this way for those with halogen bulbs

[DJ_B_Easy]

Lmao-wth? this isnt Rocket Surgery ppl..

For real, someone just buy them already and install them...

they look awesome , but i wouldnt buy em . they look cheap and they look if they would break within a yr ..
ill rather put a lil more money into the product and have dangeris do em for me ! .... thats me tho .

You already got projector's bro! Darryl could bake yours and paint for next to nothing I bet.

[incREDibL3]

Lmao-wth? this isnt Rocket Surgery ppl..

For real, someone just buy them already and install them...

they look awesome , but i wouldnt buy em . they look cheap and they look if they would break within a yr ..
ill rather put a lil more money into the product and have dangeris do em for me ! .... thats me tho .

You already got projector's bro! Darryl could bake yours and paint for next to nothing I bet.

Lol true... Maybe this is why i dont care .

[dangeris]

Here's an output shot from an ebay projectors...Yeah they look good but the performance...The picture says it all...

It's your money guys..you can spend it on how you like but personally, I'd spend a little more for quality...www.dangerislumenations.com (shameless plug)



Output shot of one of my retros..



Some pics of cheap ebay projector bowls with an aftermarket HID kit..

[DJ_B_Easy]

Darryl wins!

[dangeris]

Dang right I win!

[DAAN.]

I'd spend a little more for quality...www.dangerislumenations.com (shameless plug)

I contacted you cause I want some projectors close to my infiniti for night driving
You know i'd do it
But it's double the price + the headache of shipping back and forth that I'd have to eat

[BamaCoupe]

I know this question is going to go over real well, and yes I'm being serious: how can you tell if your factory lights are HID or Halogen? I can tell the difference between a projector and a none projector (I think I can anyways but on these aftermarket lights on the High beam I don't see a projector lens), but I have no idea how to tell the difference between HID or Halogen. I did go out to look and see if I can see on the back of the housing and by the high beam it says H9, and for the low beam I can't see what it says but maybe this helps.

[InfinitiEric]

I know this question is going to go over real well, and yes I'm being serious: how can you tell if your factory lights are HID or Halogen? I can tell the difference between a projector and a none projector (I think I can anyways but on these aftermarket lights on the High beam I don't see a projector lens), but I have no idea how to tell the difference between HID or Halogen. I did go out to look and see if I can see on the back of the housing and by the high beam it says H9, and for the low beam I can't see what it says but maybe this helps.

If the headlight beam takes a couple moments to warm up and changes colors in that process (from lower on the light spectrum to higher on the spectrum until it reaches the proper color level) then it is HID. If it immediately comes on and shows an almost yellowish color tint then you have halogens.

The H9 label on the high0beam unfortunately doesn't help for this situation as both the HID and halogen model low-beam headlight contain a halogen high-beam headlight. Let me know if any of this confuses you and if you need any more help.

[BamaCoupe]

I know this question is going to go over real well, and yes I'm being serious: how can you tell if your factory lights are HID or Halogen? I can tell the difference between a projector and a none projector (I think I can anyways but on these aftermarket lights on the High beam I don't see a projector lens), but I have no idea how to tell the difference between HID or Halogen. I did go out to look and see if I can see on the back of the housing and by the high beam it says H9, and for the low beam I can't see what it says but maybe this helps.

If the headlight beam takes a couple moments to warm up and changes colors in that process (from lower on the light spectrum to higher on the spectrum until it reaches the proper color level) then it is HID. If it immediately comes on and shows an almost yellowish color tint then you have halogens.

The H9 label on the high0beam unfortunately doesn't help for this situation as both the HID and halogen model low-beam headlight contain a halogen high-beam headlight. Let me know if any of this confuses you and if you need any more help.

I was thinking there was a color difference; when I'm behind the wheel it doesn't appear white in color and to me they look yellowish when luminating(spl) the road, but my wife has said that from the outside when she sees me coming they look bright white. They do immediately come on though, and I don't notice any warm up color changing. Thanks for the info.

[InfinitiEric]

They do immediately come on though, and I don't notice any warm up color changing.

That's the key - if you switch the headlights on and it immediately illuminates then you 100% have halogens.