02 qx4 minor damage...need help pls...

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A friend's friend was over yesterday night and while leaving, they backed into my QX4. They left (were going partying) and called me from down the road and said that they have some bad news....blah blah...and that they would pay for it. That the person knew some folks at autozone and also a guy who does body work.

Here are the pics. Before;

I looked up online at the vendors over here and it looks like the headlamp assy would be around $1100. The Bumper cover only, would be around $300. But its got a 3-4 inch tear/rip in the bottom (cant be seen in the pics) and I am not sure if it would have to be replaced as it would eventually expand. Also would need to be painted. The fender flares come off a bit but it could be stuck back I suppose.

Now, they had left and said they would fix it later. But I know for a fact that they cant afford it. So I told them to get back here ASAP so we could get a police report done so that I could claim her insurance. But they are dallying. I am trying to think what I should do now. Is it too late to call the cops? I am f***ing pissed and wondering why I havent called the cops yet. I am worried that I didnt call them on the spot immediately and now if they would even consider my complaint.

Its not even 3 months since I got it and I was treating it real well. Its an extremely sharp and new looking and drives like new pretty much and lotta folks were surprised that its an 02. I intended to keep it that way but this sh*t happened.

Would really appreciate any help or advice regarding my next steps as to what I should do and how I could fix this. I am especially concerned about the paint job. I am not even sure what color code my Q is. And where to go to for a good paint job. Do these Infinitis have additional layers of paint and clear on them? Thanks for the help.
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1) Why the hell did they call from down the road? That's hit and run and doesn't fly around here... Call the police and tell them what you've told us. Do it ASAP.

2) From the pics it looks like you will def. need a new headlight assembly, bumper cover, and fog light assembly. If you want to get the job done right (which you do) it is going to be $$$. File a report. 3) Do not have the work done by someone they know -- Conflict of interest. Bring it to someone *you* trust.

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Yeah, call the police ASAP!


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call the police, file a hit and run. they go to jail, your car gets fixed.

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i HIGHLY recommend what everyone has said!! That is Hit & Run. Know some folks at autozone? WoW what is that going to get you, wax... Know someone who does bodywork? Bad idea as already posted. Your Q looks like new in the pics, you dont want anyone to fix it if you are planning on keeping it. Anyone can do bodywork, making it look like stock/matching paint, using OEM parts, etc etc is an art and a skill. Lots of repair shops, not alot that do good work.


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since its thier fault, i'd only consider repairing it through insurance. It's about a $2000-$3000 repair through a body shop using brand new parts..

Technically you could get a used headlight and a bumper, already painted, from a junkyard, for well under $1000. It looks like thats all you need. So if you feel like making some money, you could take the insurance $$ and fix it yourself, pocket a few thousand.

Either way you go, definitely get their insurance and make a claim.


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Thanks for the replies guys.

I called them again and gave them till 2 o clock to get to my place so we could do a police report. Or else that I would be doing a hit and run.

I agree that its going to be very hard to restore it to the way it was before which was practically like new.

How should I proceed from here regarding the repair. Should I go to the nissan delearship (10 miles) or the infiniti delearship (100 miles) or simply go to a good local bodyshop and risk an effort? I suppose I could buy the headlamp unit and the bumper online but am most concerned about the paint job. How do I figure out my paint code and how many coats of paint and clear are required?

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not sure about your town, but the dealers around here just take your car to a cheap-a$$ body shop around the corner.

Personally, id ask some car buffs where the best body shop is. Dont worry about length of time since you will get a rental. Also, when you are bringing in the car for an estimate, ask them if they can include an interior/exterior detail if you decide to bring the business there. They know they are about to make fat $$$ so they usually will agree with pleasure.

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fueler wrote:since its thier fault, i'd only consider repairing it through insurance. It's about a $2000-$3000 repair through a body shop using brand new parts..

Technically you could get a used headlight and a bumper, already painted, from a junkyard, for well under $1000. It looks like thats all you need. So if you feel like making some money, you could take the insurance $$ and fix it yourself, pocket a few thousand.

Either way you go, definitely get their insurance and make a claim.
Thats around what I figured from a quick calculation (1100 lamp unit, 300 bumper, 400-500 paint plus labour) and also from your past post where you had a hit and run before...Luckily I dint have to chase em down...I really only want to get it fixed like it was before. But I will look into the used headlamp thing. But I may be getting ahead. I am not even sure what her insurance company is gonna say. Or what the cops would say since it happened yesterday late night and I havent called them yet and also that its a private residence.
fueler wrote:not sure about your town, but the dealers around here just take your car to a cheap-a$$ body shop around the corner..
Darn! thanks for the tip. Dint know that. I think I will start looking for the best bodyshops around. I really hate the nissan dealership over here. Its a small town, munford , AL BTW. I grew up in Bombay and NY and still think about how the F*** I landed up here. Ah!...them women...

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If youre as particular about your cars as i am, all body shops will fall short of expectation. Ask around your area for one that is top notch and make it clear to them you are very particular about the repair.

If that guy cant afford to repair it chances are they wont, and for that kind of damage it doesnt make sense for them to pay out of pocket by bringing it to joe schmoes body shop and trying to cut corners to save money.

File the report and go through insurance, it will be less headaches for you.

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>>>> A friend's friend was over yesterday night and while leaving, they backed into my QX4. They left (were going partying) and called me from down the road and said that they have some bad news....blah blah...and that they would pay for it. That the person knew some folks at autozone and also a guy who does body work.

I looked up online at the vendors over here and it looks like the headlamp assy would be around $1100. The Bumper cover only, would be around $300. But its got a 3-4 inch tear/rip in the bottom (cant be seen in the pics) and I am not sure if it would have to be replaced as it would eventually expand. Also would need to be painted. The fender flares come off a bit but it could be stuck back I suppose.

Now, they had left and said they would fix it later. But I know for a fact that they cant afford it. So I told them to get back here ASAP so we could get a police report done so that I could claim her insurance. But they are dallying. I am trying to think what I should do now. Is it too late to call the cops? I am f***ing pissed and wondering why I havent called the cops yet. I am worried that I didnt call them on the spot immediately and now if they would even consider my complaint.

Its not even 3 months since I got it and I was treating it real well. Its an extremely sharp and new looking and drives like new pretty much and lotta folks were surprised that its an 02. I intended to keep it that way but this sh*t happened.

Would really appreciate any help or advice regarding my next steps as to what I should do and how I could fix this. I am especially concerned about the paint job. I am not even sure what color code my Q is. And where to go to for a good paint job. Do these Infinitis have additional layers of paint and clear on them? Thanks for the help.

Modified by ugharin at 7:26 AM 3/27/2010 <<<<

used to do body work at a shop and thats gunna be a hefty bill. even though my shop wasnt top notch and it was a local macco, something like that is still expensive.

Now i do security and have to file reports like this. dude, stop what youre doing pick up the phone and call the cops. You dont even KNOW this person, its a friends friend, who cares? If a friend of mine hit one of my other friends car whom they didnt know, I wouldnt expect less. Either they f*** the party and turn around to exchange info or you call the cops for hit and run.

on top of that like everyone else is wondering..... why would they call from down the road?!


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Your friend's friend is an inconsiderate as*hole who doesn't care about other peoples sh*t so why would you care about him? I would have called it in as a hit and run to begin with since that's exactly what the guy did. Would your friend's friend murder someone and then call that persons family saying "sorry, I killed your son, but I'll take care of it after this party sometime?" I really can't stand people sometimes.

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I finall called the cops. One of them came over and made a report and asked me to come over to the sheriff's office on monday morning and pick up my copy of the report. He also got the driver's name and address over the phone from her as she never showed up. My friend/acquaintence (not any fuking more!) did show up and called her from here. The cop stated that that would be all he needed from her and can pull everything else up. He told me that I could start working with her insurance company and she would have to pay for it. She has a liability insurance with a $500 deductible. But thats better than 2k-3k I suppose. Now I have to see what her insurance company will say. I hope they'll cover and agree to a good body shop I pick. So now I have to start searching and getting them quotes. It sucks! Just pisses me off everytime I think about this whole thing. It was shining like new before and and now I am not sure how the body work is going to turn out. I don know why they drove off and called from down the road. I still havent been able to speak to her (driver). It seems to me like they either panicked, or, thought its not a big deal and would be inexpensive "cause its just a light and a dent". Or they thought they'd just bounce and quickly came back to their senses.

BTW, I found the paint color code under the hood on the passengers side firewall area. It was MLT J IIRC. But the T was upside down. WTF? Maybe its an L. Certainly not an I. I'm gonna look at it again. Will give everybody a call starting monday to get the quotes.

Thanks for the help again guys. Will post back here with the repair.


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Hi guys,

A quick question.

I found when I was shopping for my QX4 that there are two different lamps for the headlights (high beam only). One is a blue color and one is white. My high beam lamp/cover is blue. The light emitted is white but the lamp itself is blue when unlit and in some models, its white.

So is there some kind of a part/model number that I should specifically look for when buying the headlamp unit? Is there also a specific kelvin rating I should look for? I dont know what my existing one is....

I have asked around and found a couple of body shops which are supposedly the best out here and will be seeing them tomorrow. I also found some scratches on my fog lamp unit. If there are cracks, I might as well replace them and if so, might as well go for the HID ones is what I am thinking.Thanks again for all the help.


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ugharin wrote:Hi guys,

A quick question.

I found when I was shopping for my QX4 that there are two different lamps for the headlights (high beam only). One is a blue color and one is white. My high beam lamp/cover is blue. The light emitted is white but the lamp itself is blue when unlit and in some models, its white.

So is there some kind of a part/model number that I should specifically look for when buying the headlamp unit? Is there also a specific kelvin rating I should look for? I dont know what my existing one is....

I have asked around and found a couple of body shops which are supposedly the best out here and will be seeing them tomorrow. I also found some scratches on my fog lamp unit. If there are cracks, I might as well replace them and if so, might as well go for the HID ones is what I am thinking.Thanks again for all the help.
try to find AS MUCH damage as possible and claim it as well, find a scratch thats close to the initial damage and say it wasnt there before, got scratches on your head lamp lenses claim it and get it replaced so on so forth. yes go with HID i JUST got my headlight changed to HID and OMG big difference, they are SO bright that it neutralized my halogen fogs which is yellow! so now im getting HID yellows for my fogs.

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Sorry to hear about what happened to you . Don't worry though, because you took action and soon this will all be behind you.

You can choose any body shopyou want. I highly recommend you find the best shop in town. Pearl paint does require additional work (maybe 6 coats or so extra over a standard base/clear). The original clearcoat is not available in the US so you will have to settle for whatever the trusted body shop you choose uses.

Use the following website to help you establish the paint codes of your car:

http://www.paintscratch.com/


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ugharin wrote:Hi guys,

A quick question.

I found when I was shopping for my QX4 that there are two different lamps for the headlights (high beam only). One is a blue color and one is white. My high beam lamp/cover is blue. The light emitted is white but the lamp itself is blue when unlit and in some models, its white.

So is there some kind of a part/model number that I should specifically look for when buying the headlamp unit? Is there also a specific kelvin rating I should look for? I dont know what my existing one is....
I've never seen the white prisms you speak of. Every 01+ Q (which are the only Qs that have the high beam prism) have blue-ish prisms. Just make sure the headlamp assembly is for a 01+ Q.

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Kyoox4,Thanks for the info and clarification about the prism, which I described rather eloquently as the high beam headlight light cover...lol...

Innovazn, I got a quote today and it was for $3550. It was from the best local body shop around here. We had a good look at everything and it seems like the fog lamp assembly is okay. I will be getting a second opinion but maybe I am just being crazy about it....HID fogs are in my mod list.

Lino,Thanks for the info. I got the following;Upper - bronze gray metallic, code KX0Lower - tuscan beige metallic, code CR0

The color code under my hood is ML1 J

Could you explain more about the 'pearl paint' please? Not sure I understand there. Also, how would the guys at the body shop figure the number of coats of paint, clear etc required? I suppose they get the mixing formula off of the VIN. The guys I met today stated that they would also fix up all the small nicks and scratches etc all around. I will be going to another body shop tomorrow to get another quote and opinion. Will proceed then. Am not even bothering with the dealerships.

Once again, thanks everybody for all the help and info.
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ugharin wrote:Kyoox4,Thanks for the info and clarification about the prism, which I described rather eloquently as the high beam headlight light cover...lol...

Innovazn, I got a quote today and it was for $3550. It was from the best local body shop around here. We had a good look at everything and it seems like the fog lamp assembly is okay. I will be getting a second opinion but maybe I am just being crazy about it....HID fogs are in my mod list.

Lino,Thanks for the info. I got the following;Upper - bronze gray metallic, code KX0Lower - tuscan beige metallic, code CR0

The color code under my hood is ML1 J

Could you explain more about the 'pearl paint' please? Not sure I understand there. Also, how would the guys at the body shop figure the number of coats of paint, clear etc required? I suppose they get the mixing formula off of the VIN. The guys I met today stated that they would also fix up all the small nicks and scratches etc all around. I will be going to another body shop tomorrow to get another quote and opinion. Will proceed then. Am not even bothering with the dealerships.

Once again, thanks everybody for all the help and info.

Modified by ugharin at 9:58 PM 3/29/2010
never settle with ok. insist on it and if they wont do it based off of insurance let it go. but try for it regardless

edit :: when i used to paint i used to throw on like 4 coats and 2 clears.... but things have changed and water based paints is moving in.... considering going back to school and seeing how it all is
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Back again guys with a few questions.

The insurance company gave me a check for 2400 based on their appraisal which was good except that they want to go with a used headlamp assy for 875!. Brand new they are 1300. I checked with one vendor i found online directly and he stated that it has some "sand pits". And my lights were super clean with nary a scratch. Also, I could get a brand new bumper here from iINFINITIPARTS USA for 300 bucks whereas the "reconditioned" bumper they are quoting me is for $400.

Also, my fender is just fine although the flare has bowed out about an inch in the middle. The body shop is quoting me for working on the fender and painting the fender and the pin stripes as well. There is not even a scratch on the fender and no visible displacement of it. I am concerned of the paint mismatch and want to restrict the paint work to a minimum and only to the bumper. The fender might have bowed a little bit. Very slightly and if so, and I am thinking should fall back in place, once I get the bumper out. The flare is bowed but its been a while since its been and I am guessing it may have to be heated now, to get it back in to shape.

So I am thinking, I will get the parts and put them on myself and just take it to a shop for a paint job.

I am contemplating a DIY for the following;

1) Replace the bumper cover (brand new)
2) Replace the headlamp assy (brand new)
3) Replace the fender flare...new as well.

My question is w.r.t the job and the parts that need to be ordered. Is it an easy DIY for a novice? And Along with the bumper cover, and especially with the fender flare, are there any "just in case" parts, if you will, that I should order as well. Any nuts and bolts stuff? Any special adhesive required for the fender seal/strip? I really only want new instead of used parts and none of the body shops seem to agree to that. I can understand the headlamp assy but certainly want a new bumper especially if they both cost the same. Am also not sure how the paint job would turn out on a used bumper. And finally, is there a way I could figure out what kind of paint exactly mine is? I mean if its pearl paint for instance?

Thanks for all the help again.

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ugharin wrote:Back again guys with a few questions.

The insurance company gave me a check for 2400 based on their appraisal which was good except that they want to go with a used headlamp assy for 875!. Brand new they are 1300. I checked with one vendor i found online directly and he stated that it has some "sand pits". And my lights were super clean with nary a scratch. Also, I could get a brand new bumper here from iINFINITIPARTS USA for 300 bucks whereas the "reconditioned" bumper they are quoting me is for $400.

Also, my fender is just fine although the flare has bowed out about an inch in the middle. The body shop is quoting me for working on the fender and painting the fender and the pin stripes as well. There is not even a scratch on the fender and no visible displacement of it. I am concerned of the paint mismatch and want to restrict the paint work to a minimum and only to the bumper. The fender might have bowed a little bit. Very slightly and if so, and I am thinking should fall back in place, once I get the bumper out. The flare is bowed but its been a while since its been and I am guessing it may have to be heated now, to get it back in to shape.

So I am thinking, I will get the parts and put them on myself and just take it to a shop for a paint job.

I am contemplating a DIY for the following;

1) Replace the bumper cover (brand new)
2) Replace the headlamp assy (brand new)
3) Replace the fender flare...new as well.

My question is w.r.t the job and the parts that need to be ordered. Is it an easy DIY for a novice? And Along with the bumper cover, and especially with the fender flare, are there any "just in case" parts, if you will, that I should order as well. Any nuts and bolts stuff? Any special adhesive required for the fender seal/strip? I really only want new instead of used parts and none of the body shops seem to agree to that. I can understand the headlamp assy but certainly want a new bumper especially if they both cost the same. Am also not sure how the paint job would turn out on a used bumper. And finally, is there a way I could figure out what kind of paint exactly mine is? I mean if its pearl paint for instance?

Thanks for all the help again.
everything should bolt right into place, look at it this way, when you order your new stuff and nothing comes with it, whats holding your current parts up? use the old bolts and screws. worst case scenario you'll have to go to a parts store to buy new clips for your wheel well liner which is less then 5 - 10 bucks. take things slow when youre taking things apart and take careful note of what goes where and how. im not sure how the Q's head lamp assy goes in but when i put in my aftermarkets, it was fairly simple just watch the corner lamp cuz it could be stubborn and when replacing the grille (if you even have to) watch the metal spring clips.

and as for the restricting paint work, thats the worse way to go. if you want an OEM finish and something that "matches" then you want to give them as much room as they possibly can get otherwise they wont be able to blend.

Paint can never be mixed the same as your oem. you have to put into account the elements that your original paint has been put through, the sun can make it lighter, so on and so forth. if you want everything to fuly match, your whole car needs to go under the gun. thats why theres blending. If they blend it will appear as though its all the same colour.


just looking at your pictures and the things that you will be replacing ill say this now. They will most likely paint the bumper as is (usually they take it off anyways so just drive there with the cover off your vehicle) or you can discuss with them how they want it done. The shop i used to work at CHARGED to take parts off and put it back on.

Fender flares will probably be on the car as they will have to blend it into the door panel

now if they have to paint the fender as well (for some reason) they will most likely need to blend into the hood and door panel and from what youre stating they shouldnt seeing as theres no damage. but if there is depending on where the damage is and how big it is, theyll need to blend

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To be honest, once you have the new bumper painted I couldn't see this taking more than a day to complete. The bumper is super easy to remove and is only held on with some screws and some clips. I would suggest that instead of going to a dealer for the bumper, try the aftermarket; when I got a quote for my rear bumper the cheapest price from a dealer was around $300, I went to a local body shop and they quoted me $120 for an aftermarket unpainted bumper. Innovazn is right, just remove the old bumper and drive the new one up to the body shop so they can paint match it.

As far as the headlights, you really only need the lens and lamp housing, right? I'm assuming your ballast is still intact. You will probably also need anew bulb if the current one was broken in the accident. You can purchase only the headlamp housing from Infinity Parts USA for $1,100. Again, I would probably see if there is an aftermarket part that could be cheaper. Installation is extremely simple and will probably take no longer than twenty minutes since you will already have the grille and under-headlamp trim pieces already removed (and there aren't any corner lamps to deal with since the QX4 is a one-piece headlamp/parking lamp).

The fender flares come painted to your vehicles paint code, they will not need to be painted when you receive them. The old ones are held on by some screws that go around the wheel arch as well as some plastic clips that go through the fender. When you remove the screws and try pulling the flare off it won't want to come off and you'll feel like you're going to break it but that's not the case, they can be a little stubborn at first. The single flare will be a bit pricey at about $520.

All in all, this is a very simple job. The hardest part is shopping around to find quality parts for cheap. I would also suggest replacing the fender and headlamp before taking your vehicle to the paint shop to have the bumper painted.

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Pwnin O'brien wrote:To be honest, once you have the new bumper painted I couldn't see this taking more than a day to complete. The bumper is super easy to remove and is only held on with some screws and some clips. I would suggest that instead of going to a dealer for the bumper, try the aftermarket; when I got a quote for my rear bumper the cheapest price from a dealer was around $300, I went to a local body shop and they quoted me $120 for an aftermarket unpainted bumper. Innovazn is right, just remove the old bumper and drive the new one up to the body shop so they can paint match it.

As far as the headlights, you really only need the lens and lamp housing, right? I'm assuming your ballast is still intact. You will probably also need anew bulb if the current one was broken in the accident. You can purchase only the headlamp housing from Infinity Parts USA for $1,100. Again, I would probably see if there is an aftermarket part that could be cheaper. Installation is extremely simple and will probably take no longer than twenty minutes since you will already have the grille and under-headlamp trim pieces already removed (and there aren't any corner lamps to deal with since the QX4 is a one-piece headlamp/parking lamp).

The fender flares come painted to your vehicles paint code, they will not need to be painted when you receive them. The old ones are held on by some screws that go around the wheel arch as well as some plastic clips that go through the fender. When you remove the screws and try pulling the flare off it won't want to come off and you'll feel like you're going to break it but that's not the case, they can be a little stubborn at first. The single flare will be a bit pricey at about $520.

All in all, this is a very simple job. The hardest part is shopping around to find quality parts for cheap. I would also suggest replacing the fender and headlamp before taking your vehicle to the paint shop to have the bumper painted.

you know, just looking at the picture again and im pretty sure the shop is going to want to blend the flare with the bumper to try to make it match... it will look kind of off if they didnt.... painting plastic always comes up weird : /

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Car: 2003 Nissan Pathfinder
Location: New Jersey

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Ooops, I just realized it was the two-tone paint.

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Innovazn
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Joined: Sun Jan 17, 2010 2:55 pm
Car: Yellow 1998 Nissan R34 Skyline RB25DET 5 MT - Current

White 2012 Nissan Altima Coupe 3.5SR 6MT - Salvage (T-Boned at left turn)

White 2002 Nissan Pathfinder LE - SOLD (blew the engine)
Location: Burnaby B.C. Canada

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Pwnin O'brien wrote:Ooops, I just realized it was the two-tone paint.
WIN! :)

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Maxima570
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Car: 02 Infiniti Qx4

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With xenon lights which the 01 should have, you should replace both bulbs otherwise they will be different colors. As HID lights age they slowly change color.. if the other one still works (assuming you already had them) you might be able to sell it on eBay...

ugharin
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Joined: Wed Sep 09, 2009 2:21 pm
Car: 2000 QX4; 2002 QX4

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Thanks for the info about the lights...

Somethings come up and I am now looking for a used headlight assy to save some money. Any advice on where to look for one would be really appreciated. Any website? Does it have to be LKQ? I found on on car-parts for $650. Anybody bought anything from there? Is it legit?

I am looking to save some money as I need to do some work to fix a likely problem I described here below;
clunking-noise-from-rear-t481719.html

I plan to replace the transmission mount, rear brake pads and rotors and the u-joints. Hopefully the differential and the prop shaft are fine.

I also with my mechanic friend would be looking into my other, 2000 Q to figure out the problem which I explained here below;
200-qx4-quit-while-driving-t492562.html

Would open the engine up if its the timing belt but am really hoping its not. Its an interference engine...


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