'02 pathfinder overhead console/ac
'02 pathfinder overhead console/ac
anyone know if the overhead console with the compass/temp and the digital climate controls will go right into a '02 pathfinder that didnt originally have them? mine has the knob climate controls and the overhead console without the digital display, was wondering if i can just swap em out,,are they wired for it?
Re: '02 pathfinder overhead console/ac (fueler)
thanks fueler, good info. thats definitely a good start to the overhead console.
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pyrophilus
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Re: '02 pathfinder overhead console/ac (timmack)
I have had a '97 SE and a '01 LE. My '97 did not have it and my '01 did have it. I know that the temperature portion of the digital unit will not work because the temperature probe is located infront of the radiator. There are TWO temp probes, one is used by the automatic climate control and the other is used for the overhead thermometer
My '97 which only had the "semi"-automatic climate control and no overhead display unit had ONE temperature probe infront of the radiator(for the climate control), while my '01 which had an auto climate control AND the overhead unit had TWO probes.
In the case with my '97, I just ended up buying a Gentex Autodimming rearview mirror with compass and temperature. I rant the temp probe through the hood release cable boot to the engine bay. I tapped 12v+ from the sunroof switch (or maplight if you don't have a sunroof), and ran that to power the mirror.
On the 01, which had the temperature and compass already on the overhead unit, I purchased a gentex autodimming mirror WITHOUT the temp and compass readouts, and installed that.
I now have a 24 hour old '05 LE (God rest my '01, which was rear ended on my street by a hit and run driver), and it actually has no overhead unit and has the compass/temp autodimming mirror, just like how I had it in my '97.
I know that the overhead compass/temp unit looks neat, but my suggestion is to get a gentex autodimming mirror with compass/temp and install that instead. That way, you will also get an autodimming mirror, and you won't have to try to guess what wires are what...
If you still plan on getting a overhead display unit and installing it, I am 99.4% sure that ALL temp probes are universal. There are only two wires, and i am guessing that it works by resistance... Anyway, if you don't have the probe in your car, then you can probly get any old temp probe for a gentex mirror, and run wires. As for which two wires of the overhead unit is for the temp probe, your guess is as good as mine.
If it is anything like what nissan has been doing (at least with my '92 Maxima and '97 pathfinder), the wiring harness for your NON display overhead unit will look the same, but it will have terminals MISSING on it, which would correspond to the sunroof and the thermometer. BTW, the compass is completely self-contained, so it will probably get power along with the map lights. Anyway, what I am trying to say is that if you get the factory service manual, it will probably tell you what wires are what...
My '97 which only had the "semi"-automatic climate control and no overhead display unit had ONE temperature probe infront of the radiator(for the climate control), while my '01 which had an auto climate control AND the overhead unit had TWO probes.
In the case with my '97, I just ended up buying a Gentex Autodimming rearview mirror with compass and temperature. I rant the temp probe through the hood release cable boot to the engine bay. I tapped 12v+ from the sunroof switch (or maplight if you don't have a sunroof), and ran that to power the mirror.
On the 01, which had the temperature and compass already on the overhead unit, I purchased a gentex autodimming mirror WITHOUT the temp and compass readouts, and installed that.
I now have a 24 hour old '05 LE (God rest my '01, which was rear ended on my street by a hit and run driver), and it actually has no overhead unit and has the compass/temp autodimming mirror, just like how I had it in my '97.
I know that the overhead compass/temp unit looks neat, but my suggestion is to get a gentex autodimming mirror with compass/temp and install that instead. That way, you will also get an autodimming mirror, and you won't have to try to guess what wires are what...
If you still plan on getting a overhead display unit and installing it, I am 99.4% sure that ALL temp probes are universal. There are only two wires, and i am guessing that it works by resistance... Anyway, if you don't have the probe in your car, then you can probly get any old temp probe for a gentex mirror, and run wires. As for which two wires of the overhead unit is for the temp probe, your guess is as good as mine.
If it is anything like what nissan has been doing (at least with my '92 Maxima and '97 pathfinder), the wiring harness for your NON display overhead unit will look the same, but it will have terminals MISSING on it, which would correspond to the sunroof and the thermometer. BTW, the compass is completely self-contained, so it will probably get power along with the map lights. Anyway, what I am trying to say is that if you get the factory service manual, it will probably tell you what wires are what...
Re: '02 pathfinder overhead console/ac (pyrophilus)
again, nice info. thanks for the input. sad to hear about the '01, congrats on the '05. ive actually considered that option since yesterday when i realized i dont have the temp probe or the harness underneath the a-pillar. gentex does have some nice mirrors, i just looked at thier site. that might actually be the way to go if i decide to go through it. plus i like the option that it had homelink, lets me dump that ugly black box clipped to the visor.
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pyrophilus
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Re: '02 pathfinder overhead console/ac (timmack)
actually, if memory serves me right,the temp probe only has ONE wire. It had ONE green wire to the probe, and it ran to the harness. The harness had two more wires, one was ground and other was power.
I took a wire clothes hanger and with wrenches, pulled it apart to perfectly straightness. I measure distance from firewall to headlamps and and cut the wire to that length. I filed the end to a blunt point to that it would not tear/scratch anything.
The green wire had the probe terminal on one end and it ran into the mirror wiring harness on the other.I clipped the wire in the middle (really long), and then used electrical tape to tape the end of the wire (the side that belongs inside of the vehicle) to the wire hanger on the non-filed side.
I then followed the hood release cable to the firewall and then sprayed the heck out of the hole with silicone lubricant.
I then pushed the blunt end of the wire hanger through carefully until I saw it in the inside of the fender.
I pulled the hanger out, with the wire, and then spliced the cuts. I clipped the probe to the lower air grill (in the bumper), and then plugged the wire in.
Inside, I carefully pulled the A-piller trim off, and then ran the wire along the A-piller, and then under the roof lining.
I removed the overhead console, and was able to retrive the green wire from there, and once you remove the factory mirror, and replace the cover, it leaves a nice hole where you can run your wires to your gentex mirror.
As for the ground wire, I went to home depot, got myself a self tapping sheet metal screw (the screw tip has a molded drill-bit shape). I clipped the mirror grounding wire really short, and then crimped an O-terminal on the end, and then I just drove that whole thing onto the bare metal behind the now removed overhead console.
As for the 12V power, you can either run it up from the fusebox along the A-piller (with the temp probe wire), or you can look for one near the overhead console.
On second thought, I think on my '97, I ran it from the fusebox, because I could not find any power in the roof that turned on ONLY with ignition.
Easy enough, you can just buy some fusetaps from radioshack and then crimp a terminal on it and run it from the radio fuse or anything else that turns on with ignition.
The hardest part is installing the windshield mounting tab!I think gentex came with a silicone or urethane based glue, but I suggest you get the bluish super-glue based one that you can buy from your autostores (pepboys, autozone, etc...). it has a blue activator in a vial that you crack to mix, and then put on etc...
In both times that I installed this mirror (actually three times including my wife (then gf)'s '00 Jetta), third times was a charm. Just use more than the 'dot' that they tell you (they lie!).
I had so much fun with my '97/'01. I miss them.My '05 has full options, including the DVD and GPS, so I am kinda stuck on what I should do for project...
For now,integrate Backup camera into factory navigation screen,Backup/front sensor,Homemade A2DP bluetooth integration for the factory BOSESome sort of bi-xenon setup (this is something I was dreaming of since my '01)...
If anyone has ideas, let me know...
Good luck on your project...
I took a wire clothes hanger and with wrenches, pulled it apart to perfectly straightness. I measure distance from firewall to headlamps and and cut the wire to that length. I filed the end to a blunt point to that it would not tear/scratch anything.
The green wire had the probe terminal on one end and it ran into the mirror wiring harness on the other.I clipped the wire in the middle (really long), and then used electrical tape to tape the end of the wire (the side that belongs inside of the vehicle) to the wire hanger on the non-filed side.
I then followed the hood release cable to the firewall and then sprayed the heck out of the hole with silicone lubricant.
I then pushed the blunt end of the wire hanger through carefully until I saw it in the inside of the fender.
I pulled the hanger out, with the wire, and then spliced the cuts. I clipped the probe to the lower air grill (in the bumper), and then plugged the wire in.
Inside, I carefully pulled the A-piller trim off, and then ran the wire along the A-piller, and then under the roof lining.
I removed the overhead console, and was able to retrive the green wire from there, and once you remove the factory mirror, and replace the cover, it leaves a nice hole where you can run your wires to your gentex mirror.
As for the ground wire, I went to home depot, got myself a self tapping sheet metal screw (the screw tip has a molded drill-bit shape). I clipped the mirror grounding wire really short, and then crimped an O-terminal on the end, and then I just drove that whole thing onto the bare metal behind the now removed overhead console.
As for the 12V power, you can either run it up from the fusebox along the A-piller (with the temp probe wire), or you can look for one near the overhead console.
On second thought, I think on my '97, I ran it from the fusebox, because I could not find any power in the roof that turned on ONLY with ignition.
Easy enough, you can just buy some fusetaps from radioshack and then crimp a terminal on it and run it from the radio fuse or anything else that turns on with ignition.
The hardest part is installing the windshield mounting tab!I think gentex came with a silicone or urethane based glue, but I suggest you get the bluish super-glue based one that you can buy from your autostores (pepboys, autozone, etc...). it has a blue activator in a vial that you crack to mix, and then put on etc...
In both times that I installed this mirror (actually three times including my wife (then gf)'s '00 Jetta), third times was a charm. Just use more than the 'dot' that they tell you (they lie!).
I had so much fun with my '97/'01. I miss them.My '05 has full options, including the DVD and GPS, so I am kinda stuck on what I should do for project...
For now,integrate Backup camera into factory navigation screen,Backup/front sensor,Homemade A2DP bluetooth integration for the factory BOSESome sort of bi-xenon setup (this is something I was dreaming of since my '01)...
If anyone has ideas, let me know...
Good luck on your project...