Yes there is..... You might be able to get it on the top..tangalora wrote:Also, given the A/C condensor has a tube running right across the middle, is there really space there for an additional foot-high aftermarket transmission heat exchanger?
Thanks. It's helpful to know where exactly to place an external ATF cooler.elwesso wrote:These are the 2 coolest places in the radiator.
Great! There's nothing like the experience of a successfully working installation to build confidence in the meek (me).AZhitman wrote:AMy trann cooler is in front of that hard line.
elwesso wrote:You could use an oil temperature gauge.
OK. Since I'm boning up on the transmission work for later, I have time to look up oil-temperature gauges. I've never seen one, mind you ... but I should be able to find them on the Internet (I didn't find ATF gauges but I hope to have better luck with oil temp gauges).
Also, it might be obvious to you (but not to me) how to drain the complete transmission fluid. Of course, if I drop the transmission pan, something like half will come out ... but what is the step to get the oil out of the bell housing and heat exchanger?
Is the transmission filter easy to change? I presume it's just under the transmission pan.
In addition - I see a few off-hand comments about an external transmission filter. Is that something people seem to add?
Thanks for any advice ... basically I won't start that job until the current two major (for me) repairs are complete ... yet it won't hurt to learn ahead of time for these couple of questions.
Look in the Member's Rides under my name.tangalora wrote:Also, given the A/C condensor has a tube running right across the middle, is there really space there for an additional foot-high aftermarket transmission heat exchanger?
Pictures are great in that I don't have the innate experience you guys do so it helps me visualize the suggested tranny-cooloer installation location better.Jesda wrote:http://www.q45.org/iowa/iowa014.jpg
Just curious ... does the "pipe" go across the whole radiator & back?Or does it just loop quickly back as postulated in the photo below?Q451990 wrote:The OEM "cooler" is in the tank ... it doesn't send fluid through any of the fins in the radiator.
I'm amazed. Now it makes MUCH more sense why people replace the stock OEM "transmission cooler pipe" with a real heat exchange unit (with fins!).DAEDALUS wrote:The stock "cooler" isn't much more than a metal tube that goes from one fitting to the other.
Oh dear. I've been struggling by what you meant by "tank". I was sure you were trying to tell me something ... but I just didn't know enough to understand the word "tank".The OEM "cooler" is in the tank...
Another task we've got right is shown by the annotations below on Jesda's photo.Q451990 wrote:you've got it right now.
This is what makes a great post.tangalora wrote:I'm glad you like it. Annotating that photo (surprisingly) took more than an hour because I really tried to SIMPLIFY and ORGANIZE the steps so others benefit.
Im not sure youll be able to get 9qts out.. I was only able to get out about 6 quarts.....tangalora wrote:As usual I'm taking your advice; I'll order an aftermarket transmission cooler (Joe doesn't sell them).
I already ordered Joe's Q45 transmission kit:--- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- - 31390-51X02 Transmission pan with drain plug- 31728-51X08 Transmission filter- C1397-51X90 Transmission paper gasket- 31526-41X07 Rubber O ring for the transmission filter--- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- And Joe's Q45 radiator kit (see photo below):- 21501-60U10 Upper radiator hose - 21503-60U10 Lower radiator hose- 14055-60U70 Water pump hose- 21200-60U02 Thermostat--- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- --- ---
I'm still doing my homework.Given the oil pan & chain guide job in progress, would you please review these planned steps below?
I don't see how I can fill the transmission without there being an air void?I read in one of the posts that an air void will kill the "planetary" gear.
Here are my proposed steps (where are the failures in logic here)?- Complete the chain-guide job & reinstall all parts except the radiator- Rotate engine clockwise a few cycles with a 24" ratchet & 30 mm socket- Hopefully no sounds will be heard of valves tap dancing on pistons- Complete the oil pan job & replace all suspension components & belts- Put all parts back except the radiator which should be reverse-flushed- Attach the suggested aftermarket transmission cooler to the radiator- Re-install radiator and transmission cooler hoses - Hook up all hoses including new radiator hose kit with thermostat from Joe- Drop the transmission pan & replace the filter, rubber 0 ring, & paper gasket- Let ATF drain for as long as it can drain (can we get all 9 1/8 quarts out)?- Note the car is on stands so that may affect how much ATF can drain out- Bolt on the new transmission pan (the new one with a drain plug from Joe)- At this point, there might be plenty of "air spaces" in the transmission circuit- I remember seeing Dennis' warning about that- But what can I do to eliminate the risk of the planetary gear being starved?- Pour 9 1/8 quarts of Mobil 1 via a funnel into the transmission dipstick- Replace the oil filter & pour 6 3/8 quarts of SAE 10W40 API SH motor oil- Fill the cooling system with 5 1/2 quarts each of 50/50 Prestone II/H20 - Place the transmission in PARK(?) & run at 1500 RPM for exactly 2 MINUTES- Initial chain-guide tensioner air release sounds may be heard (ignore?)- Shut engine at the 2-minute mark & drain transmission fluid (save fluid)- Repeat 2-minute drain/fill until 14 quarts of ATF have been drained
I've never done this before; so I'm doing my homework:How do we prevent the transmission from being starved of ATF in this process?
I cant find the post... I know dennis said that, maybe Qship can help me find it..... I know he did this procedure because dennis recommended it.....DAEDALUS wrote:Don't worry about air voids. The tranny won't be starved if the pick-up is submerged in fluid.
Wes, where did you get the 2-minute run time? I understand the goal, but it depends on several things, e.g. fluid volume in the pan, pump flow rate, mixing.