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So the story goes, this black professor was discussing current race relations and 'white privilege' (ugh, disgusted already, give me a break), the man got heated and sucker punched this woman.

Absolutely pathetic, I wish I had been there... I would have taught that son of a b**** not to hit a woman. This is so out of line I cant even believe it.

Liberals need to stop playing the race card on EVERYTHING, its turning up the racial tension in the nation and this kind of thing is becoming more and more common. Not only that, but these are supposedly educated people, what the f*** were you thinking? dont you have enough to lose to know you shouldnt be hitting people? especially women?

this man needs to be publicly beaten within an inch of his life.

you.

dont.

touch.

a.

woman.

like.

that.

ever.

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I wouldn't use the word Never. Women do things that deserve punishment just as often as men do. For instance, if a women hits my kid for no good reason, then I'll beat her right there on the spot just like I would a dude. Call me whatever you want, that's just reality. Tell me I can't and you become my next target.

Now I'm certainly not excusing violence, nor am I saying that this was an instance where the woman needed to get punched. Had I been there I would have beat that dude myself.

What everyone needs to realize is that all people are different and sometimes we don't like each other. I don't like the way people use Ebonics, unfortunately they are mostly black...hate me I don't care. I don't like all kinds of things...it's my right. I'm not hating black people, I just don't like Ebonics, it sounds stupid and perpetuates the very thing everyone is trying to make believe isn't there.

But if I were to tell someone to speak English I'd be thrown under the racism bus. Well that's fine by me, if you're the type of person to condemn me for not liking something I don't want to be friends with you in the first place.

I like lots of black people, lots of Muslims, hell I like people from all walks of life. But it's my right to not like and or disapprove of anything I want to. That's not racist, it's reality.

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aye, fair enough on the never, obviously you defend your family/loved from any threat to their wellbeing.

damn you devils advocate LOL

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I have an ex-wife so it's a little easier for me to envision violence where a woman is concerned

I have never hit a woman, but I would. I do agree that we are labeling everything with racism these days. Since when does a difference of opinion = racism? Then again, what if the white lady called him a ******? (OMG I said the N word) Would that be enough to warrant a punch? OK, maybe not warrant, but it would be looked on a lot less sternly don't you think? If I were there and he punched her for calling him a ****** then I'd break it up, but I wouldn't hold it against him. Why? Because people should be prepared for the repercussions of running their mouth.

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Sorry. There is no justification unless he perceived a physical threat in the argument. It doesn't matter WHAT she said or how loudly she said it.

Verbal ignorance reflects on the person who said it. If he didn't like her or her opinion, then shut up and leave. That applies to both sides of this confrontation. Remove yourself from the situation and let the other stand there, looking like an ignorant jerk.

His escalation to physical force was probably totally wrong and he should face his day in court for it. I say probably because there is still the possibility that he was seeing something physically threatening in her actions.

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RobPaulson wrote:Liberals need to stop playing the race card on EVERYTHING,
What does the above comment have to do with a man hitting a woman? I think YOU need to stop playing the liberal card. Totally out of context!

Oh....and I've knocked out plenty of biitches in my day for crossing that forbiden line.

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Depends on what is said. I'm quite liable to strike another guy for running his mouth. Does violence solve anything, sure does. He stops running his mouth and I don't have to listen to him slander me.

Granted, I don't go around assaulting people at random or for some baseless verbal lashing. But if someone decides to get personal, maybe says something nasty about my wife, sorry I'm giving you a beating or getting my a** beat. Just the way I am. Some guys walk away, some guys guys don't.

None of that pertains to striking a woman over a debate in public.

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He was displaying his existence, he is not a pigment of her imagination.


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UpStar wrote:Oh....and I've knocked out plenty of biitches in my day for crossing that forbiden line.
If you're as lefty as you sound, I can guarantee you'd get your arse whipped by a girl.

BTW, no more comments like that, joking or not.

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seang wrote:He was displaying his existence, he is not a pigment of her imagination.
A good pun.

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Quote »Mac was talking to us about white privilege and what I was doing about it -- apparently I wasn't doing enough."[/quote]Comedic gold right there!

Now to serious things. He should be prosecuted under hate crime rules.

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themadscientist wrote:
Comedic gold right there!
I LOL'd

Quote »Now to serious things. He should be prosecuted under hate crime rules. [/quote]absolutely.

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Won't happen.

The aggrieved is not a minority.

Wonder where the NAACP stands in all of this? Where's Jesse and Al and Okrah?

BETTER YET: Where is Obama in this? Why is he not running his big yap about it, like he did when he called the cop "stupid" for doing his job? Where ya at, Prez?

Or does he, perhaps, CONDONE the action? Hmmmm......

I hope she sues him into homelessness... and some homeless White woman teaches him some back-alley respect.

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AZhitman wrote:Won't happen.

The aggrieved is not a minority.

Wonder where the NAACP stands in all of this? Where's Jesse and Al and Okrah?

BETTER YET: Where is Obama in this? Why is he not running his big yap about it, like he did when he called the cop "stupid" for doing his job? Where ya at, Prez?

Or does he, perhaps, CONDONE the action? Hmmmm......

I hope she sues him into homelessness... and some homeless White woman teaches him some back-alley respect.
Haha, Okrah

Actor vs. Observer bias = "If others do it, it's their fault. But if I do it, it's not my fault, it's because of my situation."

There is all kinds of stances like ^ a person can take when trying to deny fault.

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Yep.

And every single one of them are chickens***.

Wish I'd been in that bar.

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AZhitman wrote:Yep.

And every single one of them are chickens***.

Wish I'd been in that bar.
No, because you'd have been arrested for a hate crime and then condemned by BO as a racist.

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Suuuuure…you can act like that goody good guy if you'd like, but the truth is that no one is above an a$$ whooping or a punch in the face for that matter. It can be a man vs. man, man vs. women, young vs. old, latin vs. jamaican or whatever the case may be. You are subject to a good ole beat down if the situation warrants it self. So, with that being said I’m sure this white women said something that was ignorant and hatred and personally…….That’s why I don’t discuss race relations people of the other race, especially while drinking… it’s enough to make your blood boil at time.

Now, should this white lady have gotten hit? My answer is…..I wasn’t there, nor do I know what was said, but I’m certain it was something that was motivated by her intoxication or plain ole ignorance and the punch that was thrown may have also been motivated by a bud lite lime or hate. I dont know

Now, for all this ignorant talk about “where is Obama” , “I wish I were there” , Liberals need to stop…” , “NAACP..blah blah, Al,Okrah, Jesse. That mess sounds all FOX newsish and is strictly entertaining to the rational thinking majority. http://www.nypost.com/p/news/l...ZqwRZ
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wow you guys would hit a woman cause she runs her mouth?

yall a bunch of big men in here

and why does it need to be the white womans ignorance (@upstar)? maybe she made a completely valid point, and when the black mans blind racism got questioned, he couldnt come up with a logical retort, so he hit her. See, resorting to physical means in a logical argument simply means you have lost and don't have anything left to fall back on.

Thats how I see it.

(see what i did there? I dont know either way, no one will know for sure what was said, either way, he was wrong for hitting her.)

Oh and I thought it was cute how you highlighted the last 2 paragraphs of the article. He was released without bail and made an apologetic statement to the press. That clearly proves he was in the right for hitting a woman over a discussion. <golfclap> Where the fks my baseball bat... its time for some real justice...
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I'm on your side, RobPaulson. Like I said, there is no justification unless there was a physical threat, which apparently there wasn't looking at the subsequent actions by the parties in this case.

And WD, there's a big difference between defending your wife's honor and just cold-cocking someone as part of a heated argument. You just don't do that to a woman, even if she is running her mouth.

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Plenty of conjecture and white knightery in this thread.

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ish- that's the way I was raised. Respect. Too bad there's not nearly enough of that being drilled into the kids these days.

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ishkabibble wrote:Plenty of conjecture and white knightery in this thread.
So a black guy hits a white lady over an argument of "white privileged" White people take issue with that and we are the racists? Interesting theory, totally wrong but not surprising. That must be that white privileged, just take it cracka! I know I feel special being every other group's bad guy.

Sorry Ish, it don't wash, wrong is wrong. But, I think we have already established we define "wrong" differently.

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What the f*** are you talking about? I didn't call anyone a racist.

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Restate that in a way that doesn't sound like it then.
ishkabibble wrote:Plenty of conjecture and white knightery in this thread.

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UpStar wrote: Now, for all this ignorant talk about “where is Obama” , “I wish I were there” , Liberals need to stop…” , “NAACP..blah blah, Al,Okrah, Jesse. That mess sounds all FOX newsish and is strictly entertaining to the rational thinking majority.
Dude, seriously - You're like a comedy routine.

You just can't comprehend why this is so hypocritical.

If what I posted is "ignorant", but claiming you'd hit a woman for something she said ISN'T ignorant, there's really no hope.

I've got one here that'll taunt you into a temper tantrum and then drop you like a bad habit as soon as you throw a limp-wristed punch.

I might pull her off you if I'm not laughing too hard.

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themadscientist wrote:Restate that in a way that doesn't sound like it then.
I get what he's saying, Mike.

"White Knight" = uber-hero, Mr. Chivalry, super-protective guy...

He's saying we're all acting chivalrous because we're not in the situation.

To which I can only respond, "Try me. Or better yet, ask my wife."

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I see what you mean. If that's in fact what he meant, I can see what he is inferring. I'm not sure that's necessarily a bad thing though.

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Not at all.

I'm proud to be that way.

"That's the way mama raised me..." </Gump>

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The argument was based on RACE, not gender. Davis got punched in the face because she said something offensive to McIntyre, not because she was a woman. I don't condone what McIntyre did, but he was provoked. Forget that Davis is a woman. Simplify it. A black person and two other white people were having a heated discussion....about race......in a bar.....where they had all been drinking. What the f*** do you think is going to happen? You can bet your sweet a** that no one is going to break into a chorus of 'Kumbaya'.
WDRacing wrote:Women do things that deserve punishment just as often as men do.
Davis actively participated in the argument. No one held a gun to her head and said, "Hey, go pick a fight with that black guy!"
WDRacing wrote:people should be prepared for the repercussions of running their mouth
srellim234 wrote:It doesn't matter WHAT she said or how loudly she said it.
Sure it does. Her words, her tone, her body language...it all matters. All of those can be instigators to an already tense situation.
UpStar wrote:Oh....and I've been knocked out by plenty of b****es in my day for crossing that forbiden line.
Fixed that for ya!
AZhitman wrote:I hope she sues him into homelessness... and some homeless White woman teaches him some back-alley respect.
I hope she takes some responsibility for her role in this whole thing. She put herself in a bad situation. Granted, it shouldn't have escalated as far as it did, but sometimes you have to be able to anticipate s*** going wrong. If you don't have that ability, you need to stay your drunk, white a** out of race-based conversations with black people in the bar.
AZhitman wrote:He's saying we're all acting chivalrous because we're not in the situation.

To which I can only respond, "Try me. Or better yet, ask my wife."
I can guarantee with all certainty that if you <and most everyone else in the discussion> were there that night, that man would not have walked out of there without an attitude adjustment. As a woman I would appreciate you coming to my defense if someone were to assault me. However, if I were part of the "instigation", I would also anticipate you looking at me and saying, "You're on your own."

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nissangirl74 wrote:sometimes you have to be able to anticipate s*** going wrong. If you don't have that ability, you need to stay your drunk, white a** out of race-based conversations with black people in the bar.


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