any word on ISIS????

[sweaty_balls]

sorry if this question has been asked cuz i think ive seen this asked before but i cant remember where it was or what it said but ive been lookin on enjuku and have seen the ISIS products they are cheap and really tempting to buy and seem legit but i was wondering if anyone had any feedback from their products. thanks a lot

[zach-Ka]

It has, just try to search a little harder next time.What exactly are you looking at buying?My friend has a ISIS short throw and loves it. And I have heard nothing but good things about their suspension components.

[OutToWinPAHC]

The trick is to search only the word ISIS, but select the 240 forum so it only searches here. There are lots of reviews and thoughts about their products.

[Kalypso]

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OEM > ISIS

[zach-Ka]

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OEM > ISIS

Why do you say that?

[Kalypso]

oem parts are tested for 10 of thousands of miles. Even if they're not performance oriented they'll work well for a long time.

Isis parts, are basically ebay parts with a nice name. compare the quality of most ebay parts (toe rads, arms, manifolds, fans ) and Isis parts... and your basically looking at the same thing.

No arguments... only expectations.

[zach-Ka]

Well thought. So you think with things like tension rods you may just be better off with OEM and maybe silicon bushings?

[weadmttothetruth]

oem parts are tested for 10 of thousands of miles. Even if they're not performance oriented they'll work well for a long time.

Isis parts, are basically ebay parts with a nice name. compare the quality of most ebay parts (toe rads, arms, manifolds, fans ) and Isis parts... and your basically looking at the same thing.

No arguments... only expectations.

Have you actually used an ISIS part or are you just saying that? Im pretty tired of people bashing on products because of a lesser price and comparing them to ebay even if its from freaking enjuku who is very legit. Ive had the V2 shifter for a while now and its great. It only rattles as i approach redline and the throws are very tight and precise. I even used the bushing it came with. My friend got a shifter from ebay and a very professional shop couldn't even start to try and install it. No its not like ebay and from my EXPIERIENCE what i have purchased from ISIS is legit.

[Kalypso]

Well thought. So you think with things like tension rods you may just be better off with OEM and maybe silicon bushings?

Well thought. So you think with things like tension rods you may just be better off with OEM and maybe silicon bushings?

tension rods and so forth use... use SPL, Powered by MAX, Battle version, tein, and a few others whose names I can think of. OEM arms are good enough even with a slammed car.

Have you actually used an ISIS part or are you just saying that? Im pretty tired of people bashing on products because of a lesser price and comparing them to ebay even if its from freaking enjuku who is very legit. Ive had the V2 shifter for a while now and its great. It only rattles as i approach redline and the throws are very tight and precise. I even used the bushing it came with. My friend got a shifter from ebay and a very professional shop couldn't even start to try and install it. No its not like ebay and from my EXPIERIENCE what i have purchased from ISIS is legit.

Have I no... but have you? not really you bought one shifter.

does your one shifter mean Isis parts are legit? no... search Nico and see what peope have to say.

am I saying this because I want to be an ***hole and upset people?or am I looking out and making sure people dont buy products that will break or crack and show signs of inferior casting.

*Bing

[mattblancarte]

No its not like ebay and from my EXPIERIENCE what i have purchased from ISIS is legit.

No. Your legit shifter rattles.

Going after Kalypso for offering the dissenting view without owning an ISIS product is the same thing as you standing behind their brand 100% after owning one of their products that is slightly defective.

[Xj220gt]

I have to say, you have a point with OEM being better. There will rarely be a case where after market beats oem in quality.

either way, you cant compare oem struts to after market struts because the application is a bit different.

so just because oem is in fact better, it doesnt mean that ISIS is the same as ebay s***.

and the guy may only have the shifter, but hey, he has it and can vouch for quality.

edit: I do not have any ISIS products, but that doesnt mean I cant have an open mind towards the product. for all I know, they are as you said ebay with a fancy name, but I DONT KNOW because I have not used any.
Modified by Xj220gt at 1:40 PM 8/12/2009

[Xj220gt]

sorry guys, im not looking for an argument either, just expressing my opinion as you did yours.

[zenki-S13]

u havent used anything from ISIS but they cant be bad if enjuku sells their products

[J240sx]

u havent used anything from ISIS but they cant be bad if enjuku sells their products

I agree, if enjuku trusts the company, so do I.

[cbt240sx]

ISIS? I love that band..

[CMG]

Compare Isis to a worn out OE part and you'll definitely notice an improvement...compare a high quality aftermarket part to an Isis part and you will notice an even better improvement. Cheap equals just that...cheap.

[White Comet]

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OEM > ISIS

yeah i'll just get oem turbo lines for a top mount then

[SolaraOnBronze]

In my opinion, you don't really need to own an ISIS product to know what they are doing and what their business model is. When looking at their products, you can see that they are clearly using the designs of other big- name companies (in most cases) to create a product with cheaper materials and production methods. It's obvious- you really cannot argue with that.

For example, the ISIS intake manifold looks pretty much exactly the same as the GReddy manifold. Do you guys REALLY think that GReddy charges 400% more for their manifold just because they are GReddy? Obviously that is a part of it I'm sure- the brand name- but they are the ones doing all of the R&D to build their product, and they are the ones I am going to trust with my money.

I can for sure see both sides of the argument, but you can't really logically say that a knockoff is going to be the same exact quality as a genuine part for 1/5 the cost... 98% of the time, that is not the way the world works. But that's my two cents, not looking to offend anyone.

[twisted99s10]

i ordered a set of their rucas. what a pita to install. they dont clear my tein coilovers when the car is all the way in the air. i had to slowly let the car down, once there was enough weight on the suspension to swing the rear knuckle backwards it all cleared. a well designed part would not have this problem. i'll get some pics of the interference next time i have the car up in the air.

[White Comet]

In my opinion, you don't really need to own an ISIS product to know what they are doing and what their business model is. When looking at their products, you can see that they are clearly using the designs of other big- name companies (in most cases) to create a product with cheaper materials and production methods. It's obvious- you really cannot argue with that.

For example, the ISIS intake manifold looks pretty much exactly the same as the GReddy manifold. Do you guys REALLY think that GReddy charges 400% more for their manifold just because they are GReddy? Obviously that is a part of it I'm sure- the brand name- but they are the ones doing all of the R&D to build their product, and they are the ones I am going to trust with my money.

I can for sure see both sides of the argument, but you can't really logically say that a knockoff is going to be the same exact quality as a genuine part for 1/5 the cost... 98% of the time, that is not the way the world works. But that's my two cents, not looking to offend anyone.

i agree for the most part but it depends on the product as well. for me the only part i'm focusing on from them is the turbo lines cuz thats the only isis thing i have. i fully believe that they will be just as good as any other brand of braided lines, and isis is cheaper and looks great

[SolaraOnBronze]

I completely agree with you, hence the "in most cases." I wouldn't be terribly concerned about something like turbo lines.

[Kalypso]

but to add in WC, ive bought... 'ebay' turbo lines.

( probably 15-20% lesser quallity then isis )

and they were complete garbage, they burst at the seem the moment the car started.

so I dont even play with mid to low level production companies. Id rather wait an extra week and save up, then buy crap parts that make me turn in my sleep.

things like manifolds and catch cans I can make with my own hands. the rest I buy OEM. and need be I go to Phase2 for or Earl's fitting and jegs for Tubro lines and fittings.

not expensive but reliable and well built.

we can talk about this without arguing, im no tbeing unreasonable. I like my cars well built.. and built to run 10 of thousands of miles. without problems.

[White Comet]

i agree and see many of your points. but the isis liknes seem really nice and i went with them cuz i mentioned i like the look of them as well. now obviously the looks shouldnt be a deciding factor but with isis being sold through enjuku i have confidence that ken will help me out if i have any problems. enjuku has some of the best customer service there is. i personally will never deal with p2m again cuz of the way they do things

[J240sx]

It's decided. Everyone should just pitch in and send me some money so i can buy the isis turbo enjuku offers and do a review on it.

[mrgreeneyes]

here's the word on ISIS:

Gray Market Poop marketed by a previously well campaigned company.

so, yeah. thats the word. ill buy my parts from a company who actually R&D's their own parts, both here in the USA and Japan, and not only make the parts that their clients ask for, but constantly revise them to be even better.

that company is PARTS SHOP MAX.

buy it legit once, or buy gray market poop 3x

[White Comet]

^ i don't think i'll have to purchase new lines any time soon though. i fully agree on anything else they have though. but i still maintain that enjuku will back up any products they sell

[TerminalVelocity]

These are are build by the ISIS factory and are no one elses arms. We actually helped develop these. Their first sets we sent back to them and had them completely redesign them to out liking.... and now we have these awesome arms!!!

We have a few people doing reviews now, but they will be a week or more before they write up the installs and reviews. We have had them on other cars for a while now driving and drifting. Just getting some 3rd party reviews now. We already know they are good!!

We are standing behind them!!!

Just thought I'd throw that out there...

[I ask good questions]

i have the isis intake manifold sitting in front of me now. casting is nice, nothing a dremel wont touch up! came with all needed parts to install. Has a few install snags, but so does the greddy. Why would you argue the difference in cost. We dont drive supercars. I research and buy what i see best fit for my car. I dont like cheap stuff either. My megan exhaust mani has been on three different sr's for over 5 years of abuse and people bashed them too. It still holds up just fine.

[SolaraOnBronze]

It's more about the idea of someone else's hard work being ripped off and profited upon with no repercussions for it. I think if you can afford to get the real thing, it will always be worth it.

At the same time, i understand some people can't- so I guess you have to do what you can with what you have.

[Kalypso]

Terminal that speaks in favor of Isis.

and WC do your thing... really.

It's more about the idea of someone else's hard work being ripped off and profited upon with no repercussions for it. I think if you can afford to get the real thing, it will always be worth it.

At the same time, i understand some people can't- so I guess you have to do what you can with what you have.

Solar I agree with you.

but If I buy parts im getting

PARTS SHOP MAX!



or battle version, or spl, or one of the man other reputable shops.I'd rather a car loaded with high quality parts.

that is all
Modified by Kalypso at 12:14 PM 8/14/2009