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EL MAMITO USMC
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| « Re: (themadscientist) | 7:28 PM 6/15/2008 |
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| Quote, originally posted by themadscientist » | That paragraph should be seized and deported as well. Good lord man spellcheck! |
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| « Re: (EL MAMITO USMC) | 8:08 PM 6/15/2008 |
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Use the "goodnight juice"

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| « Re: (EL MAMITO USMC) | 8:54 PM 6/15/2008 |
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Customs Agency is part of Homeland Security so they are "doing their job"




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EL MAMITO USMC
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their is something i dont get completly you can import a non roling chasis and that is completly legal..and what would happen if you buy the needed parts in the states and you assemble your own car. because if customs belive that you are going to import a car chasis and not try to assemble a car for you , thats just plain stupid. what they think we are going to do with it, use it as table decoration?????? but the thing is that we owners dont resell the cars we just want to keep it for personal use
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We've been through this - It all has to do with intent.If the parts are brought in with the intention to reassemble into a functional car, then it's not legal.
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| « Re: (AZhitman) | 7:08 PM 6/17/2008 |
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dang i have to tell my cousin not to send me the r32 anymore i dont want it to get seized ? he is in the airforce in yokota japan im wondering if this would be the outcome if he brings it to usa
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| « Re: (Z33_kid) | 8:08 PM 6/17/2008 |
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possibly.
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| « Re: R32GTR seized, forced to export. Need some ... (Flicktitty) | 8:22 AM 6/18/2008 |
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| Quote, originally posted by Flicktitty » | When i saw this thread and pics of the car that was my first thought of the GT-R at the autobarn. but that had differant wheels and seats. |
Definitely not the Autobarn car... Because it's currently sitting in my garage... Excuse me, I need to go clean out my pants and figure out a backup plan.
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| « Re: R32GTR seized, forced to export. Need some ... (wintermute) | 8:59 AM 6/18/2008 |
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all i know is, if my car gets seized im taking the guy who sold it to me down with it, because he actually works for the US Customs agency. so thats why he sold it to me but him being a federal employee he broke the law. yes i will be out of a car but i hope they do something to him since he knew. what if you make it a track car or something like that can it still be seized
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EL MAMITO USMC
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| « Re: R32GTR seized, forced to export. Need some ... (Renaissanceman) | 11:21 AM 6/18/2008 |
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| Quote, originally posted by Renaissanceman » | | what if you make it a track car or something like that can it still be seized |
Io think not in a case like this , but you never know what they migth come up with
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| « Re: R32GTR seized, forced to export. Need some ... (thomasK(austin)) | 2:56 PM 6/18/2008 |
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Sorry to hear but. Did you buy this one from some one in GA? I found one in GA not too long ago and he told me some one is TX was buying it.the more that keep geting taken I def want to buy one thats done right. Good luck get something done about it.
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| « Re: R32GTR seized, forced to export. Need some ... (EL MAMITO USMC) | 3:01 PM 6/18/2008 |
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| Quote, originally posted by EL MAMITO USMC » | Io think not in a case like this , but you never know what they migth come up with |
Your right. Believe me, i tried to find any way to keep the car here legally. There just isnt a way to do it. Race cars have to be just that, race cars. They cant have anything that would allow to be legal on the street. Cant be a show car because it has to qualify as a show car through the DOT, there is a list of requirements and written justification for being a showcar, which the r32 gtr will not qualify. The federal government are not people you can just make a deal with or bargain. If the car is illegal to be here, its illegal to be here. This means they are either going to auction it for export, crush it, or you have to fight back for it to export it. I believe i will have to have my export agent pick the car up and show proof to customs that it left the country. It sucks, but it is the only way out. My only other choice is to cut my losses and let the feds keep it, but just cant do that out of principal. Id rather pay for the lawyer, fees, and shipping costs, which is a lot by the way.
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| « Re: R32GTR seized, forced to export. Need some ... (thomasK(austin)) | 7:52 PM 6/18/2008 |
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| Quote, originally posted by thomasK(austin) » | Your right. Believe me, i tried to find any way to keep the car here legally. There just isnt a way to do it. Race cars have to be just that, race cars. They cant have anything that would allow to be legal on the street. Cant be a show car because it has to qualify as a show car through the DOT, there is a list of requirements and written justification for being a showcar, which the r32 gtr will not qualify. The federal government are not people you can just make a deal with or bargain. If the car is illegal to be here, its illegal to be here. This means they are either going to auction it for export, crush it, or you have to fight back for it to export it. I believe i will have to have my export agent pick the car up and show proof to customs that it left the country. It sucks, but it is the only way out. My only other choice is to cut my losses and let the feds keep it, but just cant do that out of principal. Id rather pay for the lawyer, fees, and shipping costs, which is a lot by the way. |
Sucks for your luck, if I were you I would simply cut the losses and start over with another car. There are ways they can trace sales of vehicles but that is all in the titles and VIN numbers used to register. It's a big title game and as long as you have a suitable title that doesn't raise a eyebrow with the VIN number on it then you are golden. People using BCRN, BNR, ERC, HCR VIN numbers (the Japanese VIN's) are the one's who are clearly putting themselfs in the open. Grey market state issued VIN's is the route to go, there is no way to trace the vehicles origin and what kind it is unless you openly disclose "Yes this is a Skyline illegally imported from Japan" Sorry again for your luck.
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| « Re: R32GTR seized, forced to export. Need some ... (Vandrel) | 11:54 PM 6/22/2008 |
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How do you actually go about getting a "state issued VIN" and not use the actual when getting the car regestered?
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| « Re: (Flicktitty) | 1:25 PM 6/23/2008 |
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| Quote, originally posted by Flicktitty » | | That blows man. And not to be a dick, But doesn't Dept. of homeland security have bigger **** to worry about then a couple of car enthusiests? i mean ****ing christ. it's been how long since we started looking for Osama bin Laden but nooo luck finding that go so lets go over to the next biggest threat ILLEGAL NISSAN SKYLINES get a ****ing life. someone really needs to email some news channel (CNN/FOX/MSNBC) and see what they say on the subject. |
LOL I agree... another new low has been set! | Quote, originally posted by Flicktitty » | | That blows man. And not to be a dick, But doesn't Dept. of homeland security have bigger **** to worry about then a couple of car enthusiests? i mean ****ing christ. it's been how long since we started looking for Osama bin Laden but nooo luck finding that go so lets go over to the next biggest threat ILLEGAL NISSAN SKYLINES get a ****ing life. someone really needs to email some news channel (CNN/FOX/MSNBC) and see what they say on the subject. |
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| « Re: R32GTR seized, forced to export. Need some ... (canuck94) | 3:50 PM 6/23/2008 |
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| Quote, originally posted by canuck94 » | | How do you actually go about getting a "state issued VIN" and not use the actual when getting the car regestered? |
Rules for registering and titling vary per state, there is more then one way to register vehicles
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| « Re: (EL MAMITO USMC) | 3:54 PM 6/24/2008 |
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| Quote, originally posted by EL MAMITO USMC » | well i guess your rigth , ill see if i give mine to a friend in other country and just keep it there and then in 2018 ill get another R33. it sucks we should get thogueter and ask for an amesty or something like that since they gave it to all those millions of illegal immigrants im sure we could work something out. like a permit for use and posecion only for our selfs, (you cant sell the car) .. ill be down for that, we should takl to a lawyer and work someting out before we loose our cars...
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I just got a massive headache trying to decipher that sh*t.

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w3rd around the "Importer Campfire" is that all of these are Skyline Kings cars, FDOT just now started to notice the amount of "Imports" they were getting in and how fast the turnaround was to get titles out the door not only that a lot of mofos were "New Residents" to the state.......thanks to that the FDOT is now looking into just how many "Imports" were brought in to get tags and reporting what they can to the US gvmnt.Long Story Short, FLORIDA IS CRACKING DOWN. It's been common knowledge for the past 5 or so years that FL will let you tag ANYTHING pretty much..............well that's NOT the case anymore. In short you have nothing to worry about IF YOUR CAR NEVER HAD A FLORIDA REGISTRATION if it did sometime in it's life then you got some issues to worry about. Also to the thread starter, you're not the only one to get snatched here in Houston - a few other have gotten hit.......'specialy one of the biggest importers in the city, I'm not naming names but he's brought in quite a bit.
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Man, total bummer.Sorry to hear this happened, especially after just getting it. (Have you looked into selling it up in Canada?) Course, this does reassure me that the decision to spend the extra time and money to get a Motorex car was the prudent choice. :O
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send it to china!! cheap labor and everything for a storage and someone to start it up for u just make sure u know the guy and that they wont sell the car on you
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man, i am still waiting on customs to give me my appeal paperwork. The lady at the office said they have 60 days, but cant they get it to me faster.I am still trying to find a trustworthy source overseas. My main countries are probably UK or New Zealand. I have some leads in UK through some guys i know, but nothing solid yet. New Zealand is a good choice because of the $$$ exchange rate. Ill keep everyone posted on what is going on with my situation. I hate dealing with this crap of exporting, it makes it such a pain.
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| « Re: (thomasK(austin)) | 3:38 PM 7/2/2008 |
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| Quote, originally posted by thomasK(austin) » | | man, i am still waiting on customs to give me my appeal paperwork. The lady at the office said they have 60 days, but cant they get it to me faster. I am still trying to find a trustworthy source overseas. My main countries are probably UK or New Zealand. I have some leads in UK through some guys i know, but nothing solid yet. New Zealand is a good choice because of the $$$ exchange rate. Ill keep everyone posted on what is going on with my situation. I hate dealing with this crap of exporting, it makes it such a pain. |
Ask the guys on zeroyon, I bet one of them will be willing to help you out and could probably get it back state-side for you as well.
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| « Re: (Vandrel) | 5:45 PM 7/2/2008 |
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I would seriously consider finding a place in Canada to store it. It's cheaper and closer than sending it overseas. Hell, Toronto is just across the lake from Detroit...
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| Quote, originally posted by C33LaurelRacer » | | I would seriously consider finding a place in Canada to store it. It's cheaper and closer than sending it overseas. Hell, Toronto is just across the lake from Detroit... |
its not allowed to go directly to a NAFTA country(canada or mexico).only way to get it to canada will be to send it to a country that allows these cars then send it to canada.
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| « Re: R32GTR seized, forced to export. Need some ... (thomasK(austin)) | 11:35 PM 7/2/2008 |
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homeland security... wtf, since when did skylines pop up on the terrorist watch list? maybe they need to focus more on border security, and cocaine smuggling....
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| « Re: R32GTR seized, forced to export. Need some ... (Driftcardotnet) | 11:39 PM 7/2/2008 |
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Because the US Customs Service is part of Homeland Security
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| « Re: (Vandrel) | 7:20 AM 7/3/2008 |
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| Quote, originally posted by Vandrel » | Ask the guys on zeroyon, I bet one of them will be willing to help you out and could probably get it back state-side for you as well. |
any specific person i should talk to there?
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| « Re: R32GTR seized, forced to export. Need some ... (Driftcardotnet) | 8:10 AM 7/3/2008 |
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| Quote, originally posted by Driftcardotnet » | | homeland security... wtf, since when did skylines pop up on the terrorist watch list? maybe they need to focus more on border security, and cocaine smuggling.... |
after 9-11 GWB gave customs new glorified names,i guess customs got tired of being glorified security guards
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| « Re: (thomasK(austin)) | 2:39 PM 7/3/2008 |
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| Quote, originally posted by thomasK(austin) » | any specific person i should talk to there? |
Surf through the Japan section and look for a post by 1EVILFD3S, check out his post on how he brought his RX-7 back to the U.S. very good info! There's no specific person to talk to on there, most all of them are military or speak good english. I'm sure if you make a post on the Japan section someone will be willing to give you a hand in your situation. They have 20ft container storage at Naha port area which you could probably get your car dropped in or pay someone to send it back to you and try again
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Is it possible for you to sell it to a UK owner on eBay?Go check on the Aussie sites and sections. They have it good there so you can export to them easily.
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| « Re: (Soravia) | 6:41 AM 7/8/2008 |
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| Quote, originally posted by Soravia » | | Is it possible for you to sell it to a UK owner on eBay? Go check on the Aussie sites and sections. They have it good there so you can export to them easily. |
I could probably sell it to someone in the UK or Austrailia, but i couldnt sell it for much thats for sure. I would rather have it stored somewhere in the UK, new zealand, etc then bring it back when its 25 years old. Then i can at least have something for my money. Just trying to find someone trustoworthy overseas.
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| « Re: (thomasK(austin)) | 7:41 AM 7/8/2008 |
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This totally sucks, I am so sorry man... I hope that some day we can live in peace with "the man" lol
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| « Re: (chaosli) | 11:43 AM 7/10/2008 |
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| Quote, originally posted by chaosli » | | send it to china!! |
lol no! they'll copy it and in a month there will be knockoff skylines all over ebay!
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| « Re: R32GTR seized, forced to export. Need some ... (thomasK(austin)) | 5:11 AM 7/11/2008 |
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I've been away from the forums for a LOOONG time. I know when motorex was importing skylines they were the "ONLY" company. Actuially any company on that .gov list of importers could do it but motorex was suposedly the only... well we all know the story, however something to have your lawyer look into is this legislation.I'm sure i'ts been discussed or whatever. Just tryin' to help out. If you could do something to disable the car maybe you could keep it as a "display" car till it's old enough, especially sense it looks like you've got other vehicles. Might help to convince the feds. http://www.autoblog.com/2006/1...state/
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| « Re: R32GTR seized, forced to export. Need some ... (RobDET) | 9:15 PM 7/11/2008 |
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The 25 year rule works for when you import the car. If it doesn't have paper work stating that it was 25 years old when you brought it in, it doesn't work. You can't just bring a car in, let it sit, and then it's all good. Doesn't work like that.
His best bet is to find someone he trusts, preferably a trusted NICO member to sell/hold the car in another country and have it sent back when it's time. You could always send it back to Japan. You get the storage unit squared away, I'll make sure it gets there, and I'll keep it started once a month, keep fluids and such in good shape. And no, I won't drive it.
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I might pick up on moving to Australia. I could start a storage busniess and store all the R32, R34, S15 and stuff there.I say send it to Japan and store it in a cheap place. There are few people in Japan who would steal a car. Most people go by without cars their entire life.
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| « Re: R32GTR seized, forced to export. Need some ... (thomasK(austin)) | 1:36 PM 7/22/2008 |
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Hey dude, I sent you an email
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| « Re: R32GTR seized, forced to export. Need some ... (thomasK(austin)) | 5:24 PM 7/22/2008 |
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Was just linked this post on the starquestclub.com forums. I have no idea if it is an option, but you could ask your lawyer if sending it to a tribal nation (i.e. indian reservation) is an option. I doubt it, but sure would be an easier fix if you could.
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| « Re: R32GTR seized, forced to export. Need some ... (averse) | 9:13 PM 7/27/2008 |
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How does all this apply to a 91 Silvia?? Just wondering.....

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| « Re: R32GTR seized, forced to export. Need some ... (thomasK(austin)) | 8:43 AM 8/7/2008 |
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Dominican Republi - Santo Domingo : would be good place to store it
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