m tr4nch's restoration/build thread !! (56k = death)

[m tr4nch]

what's up everyone, my name is matt, and here you will find my long overdue s13 restoration/build thread. i'll try to keep the text as short as possible since i know people don't like to read

so here's how the story goes...

i've been into cars since around the time gone in 60 seconds came out (like '98-'99), i was in 7th grade. my older brother and i were going to get a car to build back in '01-'02, but could never find the right one. he eventually lost interest in cars and i discovered the 240sx and fell in love with the s13 fastback. i was looking for a RWD platform that wasn't expensive and had a lot of aftermarket support for mods, and there it was. i didn't even know what drifting was back then. i was 14 at the time so i decided to wait until i was 17 to get one when i had my license.

i ended up getting my 240sx in june 2004, a month after my 17th bday, after a good 3-4 months of searching. 1992 year, 132,700 miles, 5 speed, base model, bone stock, little bit of rust, no mechanical problems, no body damage except for the usual door dings, clean carfax, one owner.

picture time...

when i first got the car









and more random pics







(current DD in the background)








rusty engine bay






then i started collecting some parts, starting with suspension stuff







new front 5-lug hubs and z32 brake stuff




all new suspension bolts


some jdm padding in the box lol



i had all the dings taken out professionally, pieces of tape to mark them off






finally on jack stands.. i made the decision to start tearing it apart in june '05 after my inspection sticker expired and i knew it would never pass in its current state, so i said fcuk it.
(as you're reading this thread, keep in mind i have no previous automotive experience at all.)






^reminds me of this for some reason..


testing out the beadblasting on one of the headlight assemblys


subframe/diff rustyness


more rustyness, muffler goes here


painted the calipers and other stuff



disassembly of the front end



super clean...


KA coming out




ahh, so much easier to take the rest of the crap out..


the ol' rusty KA. had to cut the downpipe to finish getting it out since all of the studs/bolts/nuts holding the entire exhaust system together were fused together with rust



zomg RB25????




already has nismo FPR


not sure about the condition of the turbo..


broken exhaust manifold stud


cut up harness



built a dolly with my dad, my write up on how to make your own - post3006385.html#p3006385



aaaand away for the winter '05-'06.



the rest of the car...




closet full of new parts

[m tr4nch]

begin spring '06, out of hibernation



interior completely gutted, dry ice is awesome.. also stripping the excess seam sealer off everything to make sure rust isn't lurking underneath.




stripped engine bay. rusty and dirty as hell




rusty seams in front wheel wells




bottom of passenger side quarter panel



inside





driver's side not nearly as bad



burning the bushings out of the subframe



and so the rust attacking commences...

started grinding those front shock tower plates


this crap was way too deep and i could see stuff hiding under there still, so i decided to just drill it (both sides) off, good thing i did




sandblasted clean



one coat of rust bullet sprayed on



wasted time on the upper radiator support next.. lots of rust hiding sandwiched between here





got to sandblasting a little bit. here is my sandblasting outfit



after spraying with rust bullet




new shock tower plates cut out and painted





front wheel wells and battery tray next.

my first attempt at cutting some metal out= horrible haha



battery tray patch cut out and welded up (i was a n00b at welding back then..)



wire-wheeled all the rubber/grime out of the wheel wells




stopped for a couple months for winter
picked up again spring '07..

i gave up on my radiator supports and decided to just get new ones and replace mine



got the upper support off, test fitting the new one



got the bottom one off



man this thing was super crusty



engine bay sanded down and rusty spots getting grinded down before sandblasting







decided to cut a few pieces out, i hate rusty seams!!






other side



after blasting and spraying rust bullet










then i welded on the new radiator supports and shock tower plates








then i found another surprise




tried doing a little bit of cutting and gave up, saving it for later.




blasted the front wheel wells next, and coated with rust bullet







xenon lip came!





summer '07.. someone tell me if i'm crazy

starting on the journey through hell..




after countless hours and days later, working like this..
(yes i know the die grinder is on my balls/crotch)



(this is only 1 day's worth of crap, i was out there for like 5 or 6 days..)



the end result...






man, i don't think i want to ever do that again... being out in the 80 degree+ humid NJ summer weather wearing coveralls/ski mask/etc on my back for a few days.. holy SH*T is all i have to say..


after that i figured it was time for some welding













and painted up with more rust bullet








also finally painted over these welds






just some comparison pics of the engine bay after the rust fixage





now the hard part.
started on the rear section first (basically from rear seats back)







after sandblasting




and some rust bullet





and then, a full spray





started the floor section next




rusty seat mount


where the e-brake cable goes through


glad i got that off...


more surprises



wtf, i thought i was done with this crap...


after a little bit of cutting and poking


after a lot of cutting




edit- read on

in short, my plans for the car is to be rust free with brand new parts everywhere, basically a "brand new" car that i can drive daily on the street and is reliable (for the most part), with my own tasteful mods.

a brief list of what's left to do:

finish fixing rust on floor section
remove glass and sand everything down for paint
get most of the suspension powdercoated
new poly bushings installed
throw everything back together

anyways, i guess that's about it for now. thanks for looking and let me know what you guys think.

[offroadbob]

Awesome work! Very nice progress. I can't wait to see it finished.

[Shift__BODOM]

I admire your dedication. I'd like to think I wouldn't quit halfway through and just sell off all the parts, but I probably would. Serious kudos for sticking with it and doing all that hard work by yourself. I can't wait to see how everything comes together.

[numbnuts240]

you missed a spot . jk, looks real good man, i wish i had the time and funds to do all that with my car. i'm loving your engine choice btw.

[StricNyne]

hey turd sniffer you didnt post your most important peice of equipment your FnFIII Poster !!!!! seriously it looks awesome man now i gotta search up a AWESOME jpeg you havent seen and post it up

[StricNyne]

there we go..

[homeslicej2]

Nice job so far I too admire your dedication. I hope to restore mine in future as well. I think Nissan still sells those front frame rails. I've seen someone post them up here on NICO. It might be easier/better to just get new ones (if they still sell them), cut the old ones out, and weld in the new.

[kouki-gymkhana]

Holy shiznit! Awesome work! I admire your dedication and the shell looks awesome so far. Be careful with that RB25...make sure you take the time to sort it through thoroughly before you drop it in. It will save you a sh*tload of headaches down the road. What mounts are you going to use? Might want to think about banging in the firewall where the starter will sit before you finish painting the bay to make it pretty. It will hurt your heart a little less if you do it now than when it's all painted. Don't ask me how I know...

No plans to stitch weld the frame to stiffen it up? Might as well think about it since it wouldn't be that much of a stretch to do at this point.

I look forward to seeing more updates soon. Keep up the good work!

[mirochuki13]

This is my favorite pic.



My whole car would be blue if I marked all the dings on it... lol.

Also, I think you should try to get sponsorship from rust bullet.

[BMAR240SX]

Did you hit the effin lotto?

[Hijacker]

Subscribed. I'm digging this resto project, and I totally understand your hatred of rust. My car is an ex-jersey car and had the fortunate luck to be pulled out of there many years ago. The few years it did spend up there did damage though, which I've been slowly fixing. Just not to the extent that you're doing. I don't have the patience or garage space to sideline a car for years to do what you're doing.

[white90esex]

wow, seems like way more work than its worth lol.

good luck with it.

[homeslicej2]

Kouki-gymkanan....whatever, made me think of something, other than take your time to make sure the RB install is great. Look into the SKYO mounting kit for the RB25. I looks like the best one out there right now.

[Hijacker]

wow, seems like way more work than its worth lol.

good luck with it.

It is a lot of work, but so long as he enjoys it, it's worth it. Not to mention he's doing a great job at it so far.

m tr4nch, Are you going to respray the underside with rubberized undercoating? They make it in a spray can and it's worth every penny if you do do it.

[the converted]

Damn..... that's some attention to detail. Just keep it up.

[Rellik27]

wow looking good keep it up

[nwmrkt]

damn man nice job! You knew I was waiting for this thread.

[Lopin18]

holy, at first i was like Restoration my *** this thing is brand new!. then i saw the dings out and i was like, ok, looks more NEW, then i saw the stack of stuff i was like, hmm ok thats overboard, he wants to assemble the whole car?, then freaking doing chassis work cleaning, now rb25, OMFG, LOL THIS IS ONE HELL OF A COOL PROYECT, this car is gonna be BRAND new, beautiful. IM IN, Love this car, thread, work, everything!

[2.4Loflove]

your rust problems are somewhat worse than mine, and you tackled them! good luck on whatever is coming. where did you get all the $$$ for the OEM parts?

[m tr4nch]

thanks for the comments everyone. it's really hard work. i actually almost gave up on it a couple of times but i figured what i had done up to that point would have been a waste, so i stuck with it and now i'm almost finished

i'll try and answer everybody's questions.

Nice job so far I too admire your dedication. I hope to restore mine in future as well. I think Nissan still sells those front frame rails. I've seen someone post them up here on NICO. It might be easier/better to just get new ones (if they still sell them), cut the old ones out, and weld in the new.

yeah i've seen people get those frame rails, i heard they are discontinued now? either way it's just that section that is rusty (where the rail bends upwards). the reason is because there's another layer in there for added strength (you can see it in my pics) and that hole there isn't such a good idea, so it just started rusting in between the layers. so i will get some sheet metal from the metal fab place around here and make some new one foot long sections for both sides.

Holy shiznit! Awesome work! I admire your dedication and the shell looks awesome so far. Be careful with that RB25...make sure you take the time to sort it through thoroughly before you drop it in. It will save you a sh*tload of headaches down the road. What mounts are you going to use? Might want to think about banging in the firewall where the starter will sit before you finish painting the bay to make it pretty. It will hurt your heart a little less if you do it now than when it's all painted. Don't ask me how I know...

Kouki-gymkanan....whatever, made me think of something, other than take your time to make sure the RB install is great. Look into the SKYO mounting kit for the RB25. I looks like the best one out there right now.

yeah the RB has been sitting on the engine stand for over 2 years now so i will pull things off that generally need to be replaced when doing a swap.

as for mounts, i am almost 100% sure i will be going with the SYKO mounts. i already have the r33 crossmember, and when it's all said and done it will be cheaper than getting mckinney's.

speaking of banging in the firewall, would you (or anyone) happen to have a pic of where exactly to do this? and how far in?

No plans to stitch weld the frame to stiffen it up? Might as well think about it since it wouldn't be that much of a stretch to do at this point.

you know, i was originally thinking of stitch welding the whole chassis, but i decided against it. for a street car i don't think it would be worth it. plus i can always add a cage in the future for added stiffness if i ever wanted to.

Did you hit the effin lotto?

lol i wish...

Subscribed. I'm digging this resto project, and I totally understand your hatred of rust. My car is an ex-jersey car and had the fortunate luck to be pulled out of there many years ago. The few years it did spend up there did damage though, which I've been slowly fixing. Just not to the extent that you're doing. I don't have the patience or garage space to sideline a car for years to do what you're doing.

lots of people don't take care of their cars around here during the winter (mine's a prime example). it looks like the previous owner parked it in the damn ocean for a while, lol.

wow, seems like way more work than its worth lol.

good luck with it.

maybe, i guess we'll find out hehe, thanks!

m tr4nch, Are you going to respray the underside with rubberized undercoating? They make it in a spray can and it's worth every penny if you do do it.

yesssssir. i got my 5 cans of 3m rubberized undercoating sitting in my basement.

damn man nice job! You knew I was waiting for this thread.

haha yes i know you were thanks!

holy, at first i was like Restoration my *** this thing is brand new!. then i saw the dings out and i was like, ok, looks more NEW, then i saw the stack of stuff i was like, hmm ok thats overboard, he wants to assemble the whole car?, then freaking doing chassis work cleaning, now rb25, OMFG, LOL THIS IS ONE HELL OF A COOL PROYECT, this car is gonna be BRAND new, beautiful. IM IN, Love this car, thread, work, everything!

thanks man! yep everything (mostly) will be brand new. i really need to go downstairs and take some pics of my last nissan order

your rust problems are somewhat worse than mine, and you tackled them! good luck on whatever is coming. where did you get all the $$$ for the OEM parts?

haha thanks. $$ is from me working for 5 years and saving most of it.

[op.tic]

Ive actually been waiting for this thread, the pic in your sig got me interested in this build.

I have a 90 240sx hatch that i used some parts off of, theres rust here and there just like yours, this really makes me want to restore it and give it another chance, rather than giving it to a junkyard.

[slipipinoi]

soooo manyyyy partsssssssss

[baoweezee]

been waiting for your write up ina long time..Gj btw, hey wat do ya use for sandblasting? and can u take a picture of the rust bullet ur using? wanting to do this on my car

[3down1togo]

Ummm Ummm Ummm all i can say is You Are The S***!! lolz congrats on your progess times a MILLION...

[xckid]

will you marry me lol

damn man sweet restoration though...omg !!! this thread is so getting marked

[Gottoknow]

Right now you are my inspiration.

[m tr4nch]

been waiting for your write up ina long time..Gj btw, hey wat do ya use for sandblasting? and can u take a picture of the rust bullet ur using? wanting to do this on my car

for sandblasting i use one of these guns with the hose attached



with my air compressor



and a bucket of sand

edit: forgot about the rust bullet lol... all i'm using is their automotive version. i also got some of their blackshell to try out. both are kind of thick and you're not supposed to thin them or it can screw up its rust inhibitive properties.

for everyone saying i'm inspiring, thank you i got all of my inspiration from people that have done this sort of thing: "powerhousemike" on vwvortex forums (white 240 coupe in FL), sillbeer, etc. thanks to them as well
Modified by m tr4nch at 4:21 AM 4/17/2008

[m tr4nch]

some more parts pictures

sold the tein he's and bought a set of stance gr+ back in october



main reason is that i want to use the z32 knuckles in the rear and for some reason tein is "unable" to send me some rear z32 mounts..

my cleaaaan J30 vlsd and axles (thanks to UNISA JECS on zilvia)




jdm chuki sideskirts with no cracks



catco high flow cat



now for the good stuff

new fuel tank and sending unit


all new weatherstripping


e-brake T cable, hood lock cable, hood latch assembly


random clips/screws/floor plugs


overflow tank, rear view mirror, mirror glass, front bumper emblem, wiper arms


new combination switches (since every s13 has sun faded switches), pedal pads, door latch stuff


headlight bezels


all new lamps (front turn signals, front and rear side markers, 3rd brake light, license plate lamps)


clutch hardline, fenderwell plastic, door moulding also stuffed in there

[Didderson]

I've always wondered what your sig was about. Now I know. You're one crazy perfectionist! Big props on the real restoration and not doing tube frame. It'll be nice and OEM one day for barret jackson hehe.

subscribed. finish it this summer!BTW great choice on the motor. Had I had more time and money I'd love to have done an RB25.
Modified by Didderson at 12:31 PM 4/17/2008