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naladude911

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2001 Infiniti QX4
mt.kisco ny
10-3-2006
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I wonder how much rust I have..... im in NY to, and I see a lot of what I hope is surface rust...
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snwbrdr435
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2000 I30, EX35, 2003 CBR F4i
north shore ma
6-28-2007
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| « Re: (naladude911) | 2:39 PM 7/5/2008 |
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nala rust is like an iceberg. You only see the smallest portion at the surface. What is really going to sink your ship is underneath.
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m tr4nch

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RS13
Ocean, NJ
7-23-2004
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| « Re: (snwbrdr435) | 7:54 PM 7/5/2008 |
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| Quote, originally posted by snwbrdr435 » | | nala rust is like an iceberg. You only see the smallest portion at the surface. What is really going to sink your ship is underneath. |
every time i went and looked harder i found something else
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UsJdmTuner
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107 posts
New York NY
12-21-2006
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nice man.. props to you.. thanks for answering my questions.. i was wondering if you have pictures of the foam brush you used to paint using RUST BULLET.. i read somewhere that you foam brushed it and sprayed it( did you mean spray gun or rust bullet come in spray cans?)
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m tr4nch

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RS13
Ocean, NJ
7-23-2004
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| « Re: (UsJdmTuner) | 12:18 AM 7/7/2008 |
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| Quote, originally posted by UsJdmTuner » | | nice man.. props to you.. thanks for answering my questions.. i was wondering if you have pictures of the foam brush you used to paint using RUST BULLET.. i read somewhere that you foam brushed it and sprayed it( did you mean spray gun or rust bullet come in spray cans?) |
i use one of these to apply the first couple coats, they are like $0.49 each or something cheap like that at home depot: 
and then i spray 2 coats with my sharpe fx300 spray gun: 
the rust bullet unfortunately does not come in a spray can.
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sped56737

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2006 Mazdasped 6, 1995 Tacoma, 1965 Mustang, 1991 240sx, car hauler
Canton GA
7-2-2008
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| « Re: (m tr4nch) | 4:52 AM 7/7/2008 |
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this is awesome! lol my first post, just had to post in here. hope to see the updates.
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nissandrftr88

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6 240'S, 2 rx7's, 80 z28
montgomery alabama
3-5-2007
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| « Re: (sped56737) | 7:15 AM 7/7/2008 |
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Im glad i live in the south where the rust aint nearly as bad!!This is an awesome build,but i don think i would trust that rotisserie.

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op.tic

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5-22-2003
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| « Re: (m tr4nch) | 8:30 AM 7/7/2008 |
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Have you used any of the rust bullet black shell yet? got any pics of it applied? How hard is that stuff anyway, can it be chipped off at all?
1994 Hardbody 1992 240sx Coupe 1990 240sx Hatch
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RCA

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1995 Nissan 240sx
NJ
1-22-2007
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| « Re: (m tr4nch) | 12:09 PM 7/7/2008 |
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| Quote, originally posted by m tr4nch » | | and then i spray 2 coats with my sharpe fx300 spray gun: 
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Does that bad boy do paint as well?Also when useing rust bullet isn't there a special cleaning procedure you must do to your gun to insure that the paint residue doesn't harden in the gun it self?
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k00laid83

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What City
4-28-2005
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| « Re: (rcabrita) | 12:20 PM 7/7/2008 |
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yea that gun shoots good....and also you can pick up a three guy paint gun set in a case sold by napa...i have that set and i've shot my cars roof.. my cousins cars...and a three stage house of color paint job on a harley. i think they cost me 120 for all three!
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livinglegend2100

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93' hatch
elk river mn
2-8-2008
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this is by far the sickest build ive ever seen. you sir, are a god. more pitchassssssss please =D
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240sxDrifter1126

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240sx
Reading PA
5-18-2008
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very nice build...i cant wait to see it finished

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m tr4nch

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RS13
Ocean, NJ
7-23-2004
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| « Re: (sped56737) | 9:15 PM 7/8/2008 |
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| Quote, originally posted by sped56737 » | | this is awesome! lol my first post, just had to post in here. hope to see the updates. |
thank you! welcome to nico! | Quote, originally posted by op.tic » | | Have you used any of the rust bullet black shell yet? got any pics of it applied? How hard is that stuff anyway, can it be chipped off at all? |
i painted the lower radiator support with the blackshell before i welded it on. the finish is pretty much the same as the regular rust bullet. it looks powdercoated and doesn't chip. both the regular rust bullet and the blackshell are pretty tough coatings. i'll try and get a picture of it tomorrow when i'm in the garage. | Quote, originally posted by rcabrita » | Does that bad boy do paint as well?Also when useing rust bullet isn't there a special cleaning procedure you must do to your gun to insure that the paint residue doesn't harden in the gun it self? |
yes it does. you have to keep the paint flowing or it will start to dry inside the gun. the directions on the rust bullet say not to let it sit more than 15 (?) minutes. after i'm done i run a bit of toluene through it and thoroughly clean it which works really well. | Quote, originally posted by k00laid83 » | | yea that gun shoots good....and also you can pick up a three guy paint gun set in a case sold by napa...i have that set and i've shot my cars roof.. my cousins cars...and a three stage house of color paint job on a harley. i think they cost me 120 for all three! |
that's not bad for 3 spray guns. still using my sig? i fixed the "1" if you want it let me know. update | | | V
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m tr4nch

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RS13
Ocean, NJ
7-23-2004
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| « Re: (m tr4nch) | 9:19 PM 7/8/2008 |
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did a little more cutting today. got the driver's side draft duct cut out in the rear. 

cut the bottom of the passenger side quarter panel off finally still have to cut the duct part on the inside.. 

tomorrow i'll be cutting the duct, and i will be attempting to cut out the piece where the door hinge bolts up on the driver's side
(pic to refresh your memory) 

Modified by m tr4nch at 5:03 AM 10/10/2008
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RCA

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4566 posts
1995 Nissan 240sx
NJ
1-22-2007
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| « Re: (m tr4nch) | 10:58 AM 7/9/2008 |
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Wow Awesome!After all is said and done... what do you think all of this is going to do with the structual integrity of the car? You pretty much replaced it with welded together pieces of metal...
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k00laid83

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342 posts
What City
4-28-2005
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| « Re: (m tr4nch) | 11:49 AM 7/9/2008 |
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| Quote, originally posted by m tr4nch » | thank you! welcome to nico! i painted the lower radiator support with the blackshell before i welded it on. the finish is pretty much the same as the regular rust bullet. it looks powdercoated and doesn't chip. both the regular rust bullet and the blackshell are pretty tough coatings. i'll try and get a picture of it tomorrow when i'm in the garage. yes it does. you have to keep the paint flowing or it will start to dry inside the gun. the directions on the rust bullet say not to let it sit more than 15 (?) minutes. after i'm done i run a bit of toluene through it and thoroughly clean it which works really well. that's not bad for 3 spray guns. still using my sig? i fixed the "1" if you want it let me know. update | | | V
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oh yea huh dang ive actually have been wanting to get rid of it man. and yea bro check those guns out!
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tEknoS13

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Black 93' Sileighty
Chicago IL
1-17-2007
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| « Re: (k00laid83) | 11:56 AM 7/9/2008 |
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that spray gun, i saw some on ebay and they have different tips i think, they got 1.3,1.4, 1.5,..... which one do u have?
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m tr4nch

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RS13
Ocean, NJ
7-23-2004
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| « Re: (rcabrita) | 12:22 PM 7/9/2008 |
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| Quote, originally posted by rcabrita » | | Wow Awesome! After all is said and done... what do you think all of this is going to do with the structual integrity of the car? You pretty much replaced it with welded together pieces of metal... |
i think it will be fine, if not better. i mean all a car really is is pieces of metal spot welded together in a million places. | Quote, originally posted by k00laid83 » | | oh yea huh dang ive actually have been wanting to get rid of it man. and yea bro check those guns out! |
just bustin your balls man lol.. i'll have to take a ride over to napa one of these days and see what they got. | Quote, originally posted by tEknoS13 » | | that spray gun, i saw some on ebay and they have different tips i think, they got 1.3,1.4, 1.5,..... which one do u have? |
ah yes.. i bought the gun with a 1.8 tip which is said to be good for spraying primer. i bought a 1.4 tip set to see if it would atomize the rust bullet a little better since it's pretty thick but i haven't really noticed any change. i read that 1.4 is good for basecoats, and 1.2 for clear but it looks like i won't be doing either of those myself so i'll be good with my 1.8/1.4 combo. i'll have some more pics up later tonight hopefully
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naladude911

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2001 Infiniti QX4
mt.kisco ny
10-3-2006
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what do you use to cut the metal?
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m tr4nch

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RS13
Ocean, NJ
7-23-2004
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| « Re: (naladude911) | 5:19 PM 7/9/2008 |
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didn't get a lot done today...went and picked up my new frame rail pieces old vs. new: 
double 16 gauge layers vs. the stock 16 on outside and 18 on inside: still have some trimming/bending to do obviously 
got the duct cut out on the passenger's side: 

started the door hinge area.. wtf... didn't even realize there was another layer in there.. mmm crusty...


ran out of juice in both batteries for my drill, so i will finish drilling the spot welds and cutting tomorrow.
just keeps getting worse and worse it seems 
Modified by m tr4nch at 5:04 AM 10/10/2008
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RCA

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4566 posts
1995 Nissan 240sx
NJ
1-22-2007
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| « Re: (m tr4nch) | 3:59 PM 7/10/2008 |
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^ DON'T GIVE UP! We are all rooting for you! I swear one of these days I am going to pass by and help by getting in your way.
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Traldan
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98 240sx SE
MD
9-17-2007
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I have an immense amount of respect for the work you've put into this car. Keep it up, man. I'll definitely be watching this.
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gregfarz78
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89 240sx, 04 S2000
Philly PA
1-10-2008
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my god that car has a lot of rust you just keep finding more and more...don't give up though
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m tr4nch

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RS13
Ocean, NJ
7-23-2004
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| « Re: (rcabrita) | 9:07 PM 7/10/2008 |
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| Quote, originally posted by rcabrita » | ^ DON'T GIVE UP! We are all rooting for you! I swear one of these days I am going to pass by and help by getting in your way. |
| Quote, originally posted by gregfarz78 » | | my god that car has a lot of rust you just keep finding more and more...don't give up though |
haha.. i'm not giving up. it's just a friggin PITA | Quote, originally posted by Traldan » | | I have an immense amount of respect for the work you've put into this car. Keep it up, man. I'll definitely be watching this. |
thanks! did a little more today. i took a break and got sidetracked reading about welding and stuff online.
anyways.. got this bitch taken care of... 



i guess i'll be stopping by the sheet metal shop again haha i'm going to do the other side also, just to be on the safe side, although i'm sure it's not going to be quite as bad as that^ but still a little rusty nonetheless. not sure if i'll get anything done tomorrow. 
Modified by m tr4nch at 5:06 AM 10/10/2008
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Kalypso
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nico mods love to change my title
Flushing, Queens NY
7-24-2007
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| « Re: (m tr4nch) | 11:19 PM 7/11/2008 |
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KEEP GOING!!
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Briggs
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San Diego ca
7-12-2008
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Dude, I just read all 4 pages, and you are the man. I give you a lot of props for this huge project. Suuuubscribed.
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m tr4nch

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RS13
Ocean, NJ
7-23-2004
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| « Re: (Briggs) | 8:26 PM 7/15/2008 |
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| Quote, originally posted by Briggs » | | Dude, I just read all 4 pages, and you are the man. I give you a lot of props for this huge project. Suuuubscribed. |
thanks, much appreciated. little bit of an update... first off, here's a pic of the lower rad support with the black shell on it for those who were wondering. it comes out looking like it's powdercoated. (don't mind the silver specs, it's just a little overspray from when i painted the welds) 
here is what the pass. side upper door hinge mount looked like. can't really tell from the outside if there's anything going on in there.. 

and DONE 

i figured out why this happens. when the cars were originally manufactured, the pieces are spot welded together as bare metal. then the car gets an e-coat applied (electronically coated, for adhesion and to fill in everywhere). well those layers were so tight against each other that the paint didn't get in between them so over time the uncoated metal just rusted inside there. this may also be the reason why my frame rails rusted where there was the double layer.
anyways, that's it for now. almost forgot, these bad boys showed up on my doorstep today: 
edit: 600th post, w00t!!
Modified by m tr4nch at 5:07 AM 10/10/2008
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StricNyne

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10-30-2003
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gittem gittem dont stop !!!
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Kalypso
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nico mods love to change my title
Flushing, Queens NY
7-24-2007
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2.4Loflove

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1993 Nissan 240SX SE
Statesboro GA
11-21-2006
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slow40

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S13
Hartselle Al
2-16-2007
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| « Re: (2.4Loflove) | 10:05 AM 7/17/2008 |
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wow man, if I had an original 70's Dodge Charger with all options and all it needed was fixing rust like yours, I would have to pass no matter the worth of the car when done, Barrett Jackson or whoever. Much love for keeping the car alive, I would have just found another chassis.
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supra33202
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San Francisco CA
10-17-2007
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Good job and strong dedication! Keep us updated!
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sr20-thoj
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91 nissan 240sx coupe
st.paul mn
7-7-2005
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What sand blast gun are you using? looking to get one like that as well.. brand?
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EW

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DFW
5-20-2005
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Nice work but it should be a lesson to you guys up north to buy a non-rusty car from a southern/western state.
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nightsauce

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1991 s13 hatch
newark NJ
6-19-2008
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what are you gonna do with the stock trans? I would be interested in purchasing it. i just purchased an auto 91 hatch.
 i am one of the few that have patience with electrical wiring..
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gregfarz78
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89 240sx, 04 S2000
Philly PA
1-10-2008
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yeah what did you ever do with the old KA and trans was it shot?
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Kalypso
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nico mods love to change my title
Flushing, Queens NY
7-24-2007
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| « Re: (EW) | 9:56 PM 7/25/2008 |
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| Quote, originally posted by EW » | | Nice work but it should be a lesson to you guys up north to buy a non-rusty car from a southern/western state. |
true indeed, I have to rust treat mine before I bring it back to NYC its a florida car. Im not sure what I need to do that. but some goggles, a brush, and jackstands is a start.
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hbpignosePA
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90 240sx hatch, 78 Datsun 280z (RIP), 89 cressida (winter beater) 86 200sx hatch (new DD ftw)
York PA
12-1-2006
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| « Re: (Kalypso123) | 2:49 PM 7/26/2008 |
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u my friend are a god of rust killing wish i lived a bit closer to NJ, im gonna need all the help i can when i start the s30.... i might just try and source a new shell from AZ or cali.... if i do go for a new shell ill donate the one i have to u,
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nightsauce

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1991 s13 hatch
newark NJ
6-19-2008
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| « Re: (hbpignosePA) | 10:41 PM 7/26/2008 |
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| Quote, originally posted by hbpignosePA » | u my friend are a god of rust killing..... |
i'd pay him money to fix the minor rust i have.
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240_hero13

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90' NISSAN 240sx Fastback
Huntington Beach
1-17-2008
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| « Re: (nightsauce) | 11:23 PM 7/28/2008 |
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Sick build good luck.. but where do you guys get the ****ing $$ and time to do this??
so fast nicely and rapidly DO YOU DO FOR WORK?!?! TELL ME NOW!
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