Poll, Is Global Warming real?

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One of the factors they consider in the study of Global Warming is the health of the glaciers. Recently, the UN published a study of several glaciers and found the evidence of their melting.

This from CNN today.

Glaciers are shrinking at record rates and many could disappear within decades, the U.N. Environment Program said Sunday.

Scientists say warming would have a huge affect on India where the Himalayas feeds its rivers.

Scientists measuring the health of almost 30 glaciers around the world found that ice loss reached record levels in 2006, the U.N. agency said.

UNEP warned that further ice loss could have dramatic consequences particularly in India, whose rivers are fed by Himalayan glaciers.

The west coast of North America, which gets much of its water from glaciers in mountain ranges such as the Rockies and Sierra Nevada, also would be affected, it said.On average, the glaciers shrank by 4.9 feet in 2006, the most recent year for which data are available.

The most severe loss was recorded at Norway's Breidalblikkbrea glacier, which shrank 10.2 feet in 2006, while Chile's Echaurren Norte glacier was the only one to grow slightly thicker.

Haeberli said glaciers lost an average of about a foot of ice a year between 1980 and 1999. But since the turn of the millennium the average loss has increased to about 20 inches.

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Oh its real all right!

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If I understand my brother in law (works at NOAA) correctly, the two main green house gases that environmentalist won't talk about.Water Vapor- the largest green house gas.Methane- Pretty vicious green house gas that is mainly released into the atmosphere by rice production. Of course we can ask the hungry to give up their food, so we will ask everyone else to ditch their cars, electricity and everything else the developing nations have. Makes me pine for the good old days when everyone was decrying the coming ice age.

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The largest human-related methane emissions come from the decomposition of wastes in landfills, followed closely by livestock farts and manure.

Those both pale in comparison to the large amounts spewed by volcanic eruptions and suboceanic fissures.


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What is funny is that I was watching something on History Channel (yesterday) and they were talking about the movement of the tectonic plates and the emission of Methane. Good catch...

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...even more interesting is how subterranian methane venting is the most likely explanation for the supposed "Bermuda Triangle" mystery. Great show, I can summarize in another thread if need be.

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We is doomed. I called it.

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Yeah, because CNN is an infallible source of the truth!


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Silly, self-important pompous-a$$ libbies always think the world revolves around them, and that their contributions are significant.

This Earth don't give two shats what we do, because there's a little thing called ICE AGE. Been there, done that, froze our butts off.

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Loki wrote:We is doomed. I called it.
I'll be the judge of that, if you don't mind.

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AZhitman wrote:Silly, self-important pompous-a$$ libbies always think the world revolves around them, and that their contributions are significant.

This Earth don't give two shats what we do, because there's a little thing called ICE AGE. Been there, done that, froze our butts off.
"But it's a dry heat."

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What about ManBearPig...thats real too!!!!

Did anyone catch a recent show on discovery? It's premise was what if ALL humans just disappeared? What would the world go through and what would our lasting impression be? Turns out it will only take 200 years to erase 80% of human existence.

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I saw that show too. What was scary was the nuclear fuel waste storage and how, unless managed, would cause severe problems.


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rn79870 wrote:I saw that show too. What was scary was the nuclear fuel waste storage and how, unless managed, would cause severe problems.
But it only lasted a few years, then everything recovered....It was an interesting side story on the dogs. I kept looking at my two, one 85lb Rotty and one 16lb terrier mix thinking if she would eat her sister

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Per some, we all need to die so the earth can live......

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I had a very wise professor in a climatology course in college. He said that the only thing that is ever constant when it comes to weather is that it's always changing.

Sure, we have global warming. Sure we are probably contributing to that trend. But we are also supposed to be heading into another ice age. So who knows.

The only thing we know is that the weather will always change.

Here's something interesting... Most of the record lows as well as snowfall totals posted in our country came in the mid 1880's. This is due to the eruption of Krakatoa in Indonesia. "In the year following the eruption, average global temperatures fell by as much as 1.2 degrees Celsius. Weather patterns continued to be chaotic for years, and temperatures did not return to normal until 1888."

It took one single volcanic eruption to affect the earth's climate by more than 1.2 degrees on average and for a period of more than 5 years.

Think that won't happen again? It's taken how many years for the human race to affect a miniscule climate change?


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Yeah, I saw the part about the dogs too. I guess the poodles are in for a tough time. Interesting that Hoover dam was one of the things that survived the longest after man. Gives you a new respect for what the Egyptians did a few thousand years ago.

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Normal cycle:I honestly think we are stilling warming from the ice age.

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Realize one thing, the following list does not exist. People still conclude that "ALL SCIENTISTS AGREE" in Man Made Global Warming. Granted, not all of them are scientists.....

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Great Global Warming Swindle Global Warming Doomsday Called Off An Inconvenient Truth Part 1 An Inconvenient Truth Part 2 Megafreeze Greenhouse Conspiracy John Stossel on Global Warming Exposed: The Climate of Fear

Australia’s James Cook University’s Geology Professor Bob Carter Lecture PT-1 Australia’s James Cook University’s Geology Professor Bob Carter Lecture PT-2 Australia’s James Cook University’s Geology Professor Bob Carter Lecture PT-3 Australia’s James Cook University’s Geology Professor Bob Carter Lecture PT-4

David Archibald’s .pdf goes with the following: Climate researcher David Archibald’s presentation PT-1 Climate researcher David Archibald’s presentation PT-2 Climate researcher David Archibald’s presentation PT-3 Climate researcher David Archibald’s presentation PT-4

Marlo Lewis Critiques Al Gore’s Movie On C-SPAN 2 PT-1 Marlo Lewis Critiques Al Gore’s Movie On C-SPAN 2 PT-2 Marlo Lewis Critiques Al Gore’s Movie On C-SPAN 2 PT-3

Senator Inhofe Discusses Gore’s Movie Solar Cycles Impact On Climate Bjorn Lomborg on Priorities Dennis Avery Lecture Glenn Beck Interviews Martin Durkin

Australian Broadcasting Company Debate About Swindle PT-1 Australian Broadcasting Company Debate About Swindle PT-2 Australian Broadcasting Company Debate About Swindle PT-3 Australian Broadcasting Company Debate About Swindle PT-4 Australian Broadcasting Company Debate About Swindle PT-5 Australian Broadcasting Company Debate About Swindle PT-6 Australian Broadcasting Company Debate About Swindle PT-7 Australian Broadcasting Company Debate About Swindle PT-8 Australian Broadcasting Company Debate About Swindle PT-9

AIT Producer Laurie David is Asked About Points From Swindle Robert Kennedy Calls American Energy Companies Traitors

Glenn Beck Interviews RFK Jr PT-1 Glenn Beck Interviews RFK Jr PT-2

Intelligence Squared Debate PT-1 Intelligence Squared Debate PT-2 Intelligence Squared Debate PT-3 Intelligence Squared Debate PT-4 Intelligence Squared Debate PT-5 Intelligence Squared Debate PT-6 Intelligence Squared Debate PT-7 Intelligence Squared Debate PT-8 Intelligence Squared Debate PT-9 Intelligence Squared Debate PT-10

Debate On Larry King PT-1 Debate On Larry King PT-2

UK Debate on the Costs

Update to: Global Warming Doomsday Called Off Climate Catastrophe Cancelled PT-1 Climate Catastrophe Cancelled PT-2 Climate Catastrophe Cancelled PT-3

Global Warming: The Debate Continues

The Politically Incorrect Guide to Global Warming PT-1 The Politically Incorrect Guide to Global Warming PT-2 The Politically Incorrect Guide to Global Warming PT-3 The Politically Incorrect Guide to Global Warming PT-4

The Problems With Cap & Trade 400 Dispute Global Warming Tim Ball on Hannity and Colmes Easterbrook on Hannity & Colmes Weather Channel Founder: Sue Al Gore to Expose Global Warming Fraud Gore’s Hypocrisy Death Threats To Skeptics


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"All scientists agree" is bull****.

I know career scientists who specialize in this sort of earth science who don't agree. They're part of "all".

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I'm glad to see that most of my fellow NicoNauts have their heads on strait.

Science proves that "Global warming" is a hoax...It is just the pretext to raise gas prices and all other fuel prices....as if money is going to save the globe

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rn79870 wrote:Yeah, I saw the part about the dogs too. I guess the poodles are in for a tough time. Interesting that Hoover dam was one of the things that survived the longest after man. Gives you a new respect for what the Egyptians did a few thousand years ago.
Anyone have this show saved somewhere? I'd like to watch it.

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Woot! wrote:I'm glad to see that most of my fellow NicoNauts have their heads on strait.

Science proves that "Global warming" is a hoax...It is just the pretext to raise gas prices and all other fuel prices....as if money is going to save the globe
Global Warming itself is just as real as Global Cooling. Both are cycles. Man making the cycles is BS

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AZhitman wrote:
Anyone have this show saved somewhere? I'd like to watch it.
It was recently on History Chnl I believe so it will be on again.

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I think that 98%+ of global warming is natural. Like Hitman and Eikon have said, 1 good sized volcanic eruption spews more greenhouse gases into the atmosphere than we put it in it over the course of many years. All the ash that is spewed by a Krakatoa size eruption also causes a "nuclear winter" and cools the Earth bc it blocks out some of the sunlight. Also, our weather records are what ~125 years worth of records? I bet most of those come from America and Europe, and I bet they are not the most reliable/accurate records until about 60 or so years ago. And this is the basis for the entire world? 60 yrs, or even 125 yrs, are nothing on the geological scale. I don't think there's anything wrong with being environmentally conscious, but don't go overboard just bc you think humanity is bigger than it really is and is effecting change on the Earth's climate and/or bc you think the rich countries should suffer so the poorer ones can get money. Man-made Global Warning is a false conclusion based upon limited and unreliable evidence IMHO. This includes testimony from many scientists whose fields are outside of the required knowledge base area, such as biologists and geneticists.

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I would say anything that man has to do with Global Warming is a bit less than the 2% you give it credit. As far as more accurate temperatures today, that is not necessarily true either as some of the weather stations are sitting in the middle of parking lots, on top of tar-covered roofs and by air conditioning units. Some of these are mentioned in the numerous videos I linked.

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^Yeah, I've heard that too and how they no longer allow just anyone to view the temp gathering station locations. I know it's not even 2%, but I figured I give it more credence than it needed

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audtatious wrote:
Global Warming itself is just as real as Global Cooling. Both are cycles. Man making the cycles is BS
This reminds me of something that my Dad told me a while back. He said that back when he was my age then they were talking about how the next ice age would be coming any time now...Now they are saying that the globe is getting warmer and is going to cover us all with water

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I remember. I was around then


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