New Wilwood Big Brake Kit pictures (56k no way)

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Hey yall. Just finished putting on my Wilwood BBK and here are some pics, let me know what you think.

Not a good shot of front and back

Front Comparison shot:New Rotor and 6pot VS Old rotor only

Rear comparison shot:New Rotor and 4pot VS Old rotor only

I would like to personally thank gumby74 and Dattebayo of Nico that answered some of my stupid questions and allowed me to make this happen. Also to my buddy Rob for being there every Sunday


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wow.I just crapped myself looking at your car. I mean that in a good way.

I am stumped to think of any questions I may have helped you with, but glad to have been a help.Post up your impressions after a while as I have had my eyes on the 4pot kit myself.

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gumby74 wrote:wow.I just crapped myself looking at your car. I mean that in a good way.

I am stumped to think of any questions I may have helped you with, but glad to have been a help.Post up your impressions after a while as I have had my eyes on the 4pot kit myself.
Thanks bro.I was the dumbass who removed the hub from bearing assy and I soon realized that I made an ut oh. Got the hubs pressed soon after

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If your really intrested in some slick 4pots then go to:http://www.arizonazcar.com/240sxbrakes.html

He sells some awesome stuff and it priced pretty well. Again thanks for your help, you saved me from lots more frustration

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That Arizona Z car kit is the one I have been contemplating on. I have the Z 32 brakes all around, I am just lookin for something....less common.Should someone decide to jack my ride and use my then stolen parts locally I would feel more confident about busting some caps on something rare(er) than say the standard Z upgrade. Something of a revenge/closure/ resolution thing. Think Jodie Foster in The Brave One.That and I am rather fond of the simple appearance of the Wilwood kits.But congrats on your install, and safe motoring.

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They look awesome, def a good investment... My friend has that exact kit, ohh they work well, haha.

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smocan wrote:They look awesome, def a good investment... My friend has that exact kit, ohh they work well, haha.
Is your friend on Nico?I want to know how he feels about his kit and if there are things I should expect...

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rcabrita wrote:
Is your friend on Nico?I want to know how he feels about his kit and if there are things I should expect...
No i dont think so... i haven't talked to him since last summer. What do you mean what should you expect? He def loved the kit. I'm pretty sure he installed them, and was on his way, no problems.

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smocan wrote:What do you mean what should you expect?
Well I hear people saying that at times they "out brake" regular cars while driving in regular traffic and that I could cause an accident

Also I have heard that the brakes lock up much easier after installing such a powerfull kit. It makes sence especially after factory 240sx brakes are 1pot all the way around and are imfamously horrible. Plus my 240 doesn't have ABS.

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The hub on the wilwood kit looks pretty beefy. Did it noticeably alter your wheel fitment? Or is it just me looking at the picture funny?

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rcabrita wrote:Well I hear people saying that at times they "out brake" regular cars while driving in regular traffic and that I could cause an accident

Also I have heard that the brakes lock up much easier after installing such a powerfull kit. It makes sence especially after factory 240sx brakes are 1pot all the way around and are imfamously horrible. Plus my 240 doesn't have ABS.
I'm pretty sure if you bleed the system properly, you should avoid this issue, not positive though.

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smocan wrote:
I'm pretty sure if you bleed the system properly, you should avoid this issue, not positive though.
Well if you friend thinks so then you will know for sure.Also his rear kit requires the rear parking brake to be removed.Also the factory brake bias allows the new rear brakes to lock too earlier, so he also sent a Wilwood Brake Bias valve to solve that problem.
Crazyirish wrote:The hub on the wilwood kit looks pretty beefy. Did it noticeably alter your wheel fitment? Or is it just me looking at the picture funny?
Yea your probably looking at it funny. The stock wheels wont cover the front 6pots but I use the 350z 5-spoke wheels and they do the job. PICS:

Caliper vs Rim Clearance (about 2/6 inch or a thumb):



Hub/Rotor/Rim set-up. Let me tell you there isnt much stud left to bolt the rim

Clearance of the caliper to the spoke is about an inch.

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rcabrita wrote:Well if you friend thinks so then you will know for sure.Also his rear kit requires the rear parking brake to be removed.Also the factory brake bias allows the new rear brakes to lock too earlier, so he also sent a Wilwood Brake Bias valve to solve that problem.
I'm confused? I dont know all the specifics, i just know he has them and he never said he had a problem with them... havent talked to him since nor do i know how to contact him at the moment.

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smocan wrote:I'm confused? I dont know all the specifics, i just know he has them and he never said he had a problem with them... havent talked to him since nor do i know how to contact him at the moment.
Sorry about that. These are just things I hear about this set up. From Dave and other who own the kit. But yea sorry about the bombardment of info. For now I will STFU

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Looks great, I wonder how it feels.. what bmc are u using 300zx or something else.

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KFL wrote:Looks great, I wonder how it feels.. what bmc are u using 300zx or something else.
Stock BMCI wonder what it feels like too...Haven't got it blead and stuff. Just removed the parking brake assy. Now just waiting for some flare wrenches to come from ebay =/That plus the motor is kinda blown... so yea

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rcabrita wrote:Stock BMCI wonder what it feels like too...Haven't got it blead and stuff. Just removed the parking brake assy. Now just waiting for some flare wrenches to come from ebay =/That plus the motor is kinda blown... so yea
if you dont mind me asking what did this cost you? email me if you can.. [email protected]


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rcabrita wrote:Stock BMC
The Kit looks nice, lots of extra heat dissipation right there. Do you track the car a lot?

Uhmmmm. . . the stock master cylinder has enough capacity to push the willwoods??? WOW. . . I would have guessed they would be too much for the factory BMC.

You should run out of tire before you "out brake" any one. So I wouldn't be too concerned about that. The bigger brakes are more for extra / faster heat dissipation, then they are for shorter braking distance's. But they probably have a high initial torque, so I guess I could see how if a driver was riding your ***, and not paying attention, could get caught off guard if you got a good dig on the brakes fairly quickly. Just pay attention to the dumb ****s riding your ***.

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holy crap nice brakes.

i gotta see a price or somethin' for these. i was considering PBM rotors and 300zx calipers, but these look so snazzy.


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My biggest concern even when I ran z32 rears was people behind me... not people in front of me... just installing wilwoods now... yikes...

Rotor size does increase torque but... minor... and the biggest benefit of larger rotors is heat dissipation.... it is the pads that are the biggest factor in torque... you could get really aggressive pads and get awesome torque but then what about all that heat generated? That's where larger rotors come into play. Down the line that combined with better tires is what'll make you grip in stopping situations more None the less a good investment.. I doubt I'll go bigger than my 13" 6pot and 12.8" or whatever 4pot willwoods... unless i wana look pretty but who knows.. i doubt more than 14" is what anyone should run... its all about heat dissipation... pads will determine greater torque... I might actually do duct cooling instead of going bigger rotors.

Just my two cents...


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500hpSilvia wrote:
if you dont mind me asking what did this cost you? email me if you can.. [email protected]
http://www.arizonazcar.com/240sxbrakes.htmlAbout $2,200
cracker wrote: The Kit looks nice, lots of extra heat dissipation right there. Do you track the car a lot?
She has a blown engine so no tracking has occured. But yes I do have plans for future tracking
cracker wrote: Uhmmmm. . . the stock master cylinder has enough capacity to push the willwoods??? WOW. . . I would have guessed they would be too much for the factory BMC.
As did I, but Dave from ArizonaZcar insurred me I didnt need to upgrade the BMC with this kit.
cracker wrote: You should run out of tire before you "out brake" any one. So I wouldn't be too concerned about that. The bigger brakes are more for extra / faster heat dissipation, then they are for shorter braking distance's. But they probably have a high initial torque, so I guess I could see how if a driver was riding your ***, and not paying attention, could get caught off guard if you got a good dig on the brakes fairly quickly. Just pay attention to the dumb ****s riding your ***.
Yea the kit is a definitly OVERKILL but when I purchased them I wasn't very automotively incline. Now I realize that unless you are running some SERIOUS rubber and are consitantly BEATING the brake pedal I will NEVER "out brake" my set-up. If I could do it over I would rock the 6-pot fronts and some 300ZX rears.

And yea, I need to be carefull breaking. These have some serious bite.
tramp_drift240 wrote:holy crap nice brakes.

i gotta see a price or somethin' for these. i was considering PBM rotors and 300zx calipers, but these look so snazzy.
If you need any convinceing then:http://www.arizonazcar.com/brakekitfaqs.html

The price is definitly enough for me.
a_ahmed wrote:My biggest concern even when I ran z32 rears was people behind me... not people in front of me... just installing wilwoods now... yikes...

Rotor size does increase torque but... minor... and the biggest benefit of larger rotors is heat dissipation.... it is the pads that are the biggest factor in torque... you could get really aggressive pads and get awesome torque but then what about all that heat generated? That's where larger rotors come into play. Down the line that combined with better tires is what'll make you grip in stopping situations more None the less a good investment.. I doubt I'll go bigger than my 13" 6pot and 12.8" or whatever 4pot willwoods... unless i wana look pretty but who knows.. i doubt more than 14" is what anyone should run... its all about heat dissipation... pads will determine greater torque... I might actually do duct cooling instead of going bigger rotors.

Just my two cents...
I couldnt agree more.I plan on buying these for some brake ducting...

SPL Suspention: S14 Front tension rods w/ brake cooling deflector set

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hehe i just installed those too

Car is seriously under the knife right now :D.. almost done :D I'll post some sexy pix of all the parts I've been saving up for 1.5 years and finally installed I was 240less for 6months since rear suspension broke lol (HICAS be damned).

On top of those TC rod panels I will eventually do some piping, and I think that'll be sufficent for a long time

There is two things to keep in mind with this kit btw. For the rear you have to cut off the two ear brackets on the upright.

For the rotors they have run out or whatever its called and need to be machined slightly ... and for the front two shims need to be put otherwise bracket and rotor/calipers don't fit... pretty lame but that's what needed to be done. My buddy (mechanic) and I spoke to Dave and he said yeah that's it... and he'll have to get around it sometime for future kits but lol... ah well.

Oh yes and the rear kit gets rid of the e-brake so you have to use hydraulic line lock...


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