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Biggamehit

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89 KA24DE-T
Misawa, Japan
1-30-2005
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| « Re: (ka24monster) | 7:15 PM 1/6/2009 |
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i run a Tiall 38mmyou only want to run a 44mm if you are seeking mega boost. there has been talks of the 44mm being good for guys such as myself who didn't exceed 15psi to prevent boost creep. I never had an issue with that with my 38mm. whatever you do... you don't want to use the Wastegate that comes with your holset if you aquire a WHx35 etc etc etc
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ka24monster

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S13 Hatch KA24ET
Brampton ON
9-28-2008
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| « Re: (Biggamehit) | 9:24 PM 1/6/2009 |
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| Quote, originally posted by Biggamehit » | | i run a Tiall 38mm you only want to run a 44mm if you are seeking mega boost. there has been talks of the 44mm being good for guys such as myself who didn't exceed 15psi to prevent boost creep. I never had an issue with that with my 38mm. whatever you do... you don't want to use the Wastegate that comes with your holset if you aquire a WHx35 etc etc etc |
Yeah I scrapped the stock turbine housing due to internal cracks in the housing. and picked up a non gated housing, so the highest you took your boost was 15psi and didn't run into any problems? I was planning on taking it to 20psi at max just curious to know if anyone has experience boost creep around 20psi on a 38mm wg.
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ka24monster

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S13 Hatch KA24ET
Brampton ON
9-28-2008
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| « Re: (Biggamehit) | 9:51 PM 1/7/2009 |
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Biggamehit

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89 KA24DE-T
Misawa, Japan
1-30-2005
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| « Re: (ka24monster) | 1:38 AM 1/8/2009 |
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my car was daily driven/driftedI had to make a sacrifice somewhere. also with what i was tuning with honestly 1 bar was all that i suggest going to. my setup Performance * 98 KA24DE ( motor number 5 ) * 95 KA modified intake manifold * 93 OBD1 electronics * Holset H1C turbo * JGS Tools Stage 1 Manifold * 3" V-band Custom heat wrapped Downpipe * dsm Bov * deatchwork 480cc injectors * 38mm Tail Wastegate * ssac fmic * N60 MAF * Hallman MBC * Walbro 255 pump * NGK copper plugs (gapped to .033) * Timing backed off 3 Degress * Emissions Deleted * No A/C * No Power Steering Electronics * Apex'i SafcI * Apex'i Rev/Speed Meter * Greddy Full Auto Timer * Bee-R Power Builder Rev Limiter * Aem Uego wideband * Faze water temp gauge * Faze oil pressure gauge * Faze boost/vac gauge drove in many events and did well in all of them boosted for over 2 years now.. this setup is only about half a year or so old and was doing very well....
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nelson8708

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1989 Nissan 240sx Fastback
Sideways
12-14-2004
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| « Re: (Biggamehit) | 5:17 AM 1/8/2009 |
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| Quote, originally posted by Biggamehit » | | this setup is only about half a year or so old and was doing very well.... |
Was? what happened? Did you sell it before you went over to JDM land?
KA24E-T since 06/30/06 Tuned on E85 as of 3/30/09 KA24E-T sold on 10/3/09
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kentuckyslider

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93 S13 coupe with sr20/02 6spd maxima/03 G35 sedan "wifes"
Hopkinsville KY
5-20-2008
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| « Re: (nelson8708) | 9:00 AM 1/10/2009 |
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Just got my (7blade) HX35 in for my SR20 and I will keep you guys informed on how it works out on my SR should have it on the dyno by the 1st of March. UPS dropped it and bent the inlet but I'm getting insurance and straightening it.  All of you KA guys with H1C's or HX40's should consider this housing over the huge 18cm2 and 21cm2 http://www.theturbotrader.com/...22_25
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kentuckyslider

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93 S13 coupe with sr20/02 6spd maxima/03 G35 sedan "wifes"
Hopkinsville KY
5-20-2008
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| « Re: (kentuckyslider) | 12:50 PM 1/10/2009 |
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BIGGAMEHIT, you should really consider the turbine housing in the link above. It has enough flow for 650whp at 32psi on a HX40 on a 4g63 and will hit full spool 500-800rpm sooner on your KA or RB25. The only reason your spooling the 21cm2 housing is because of your displacement. It would be a beast of a drift car with that housing. How much boost do you think I'll need from my HX35 to max out my tune at 450-475whp? I have 86.5/8.5-1 pistons with tomie 260 procams. There is a SR with stock cams making 350whp on a 1bar spring with the HX35 on the SR20RWD forum. What do you rev limit the KA at? If I build another S13 it will be a KA-T. IMO, the SR is a great motor for 400whp in the S-chassis WITH STOCK INTERNALS, but if your going to build the bottom end and go for big power you might as well stick with the 2.4L. The head flows better and it spools a GT35 as fast as the SR spools a GT28.
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Razi
Fuzz Ball

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Moo
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12-31-2006
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| « Re: (kentuckyslider) | 6:54 PM 1/10/2009 |
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Biggame, how did you slide your car around with no power steering? Converted it to a real manual rack? Must've been difficult.

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nelson8708

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1989 Nissan 240sx Fastback
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12-14-2004
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| « Re: (kentuckyslider) | 2:10 AM 1/11/2009 |
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| Quote, originally posted by kentuckyslider » | | How much boost do you think I'll need from my HX35 to max out my tune at 450-475whp? I have 86.5/8.5-1 pistons with tomie 260 procams. There is a SR with stock cams making 350whp on a 1bar spring with the HX35 on the SR20RWD forum. |
<25psi Its all in the tune though. If the tune was for a t28 (example) you would have to pull more timing than if you ran a T3/T4, so you would be missing out on some power. Even if the tune is for a smaller T2 turbo i dont think you will need more than 25psi. A local sr guy made 377whp on a Gt2871RS @ 22psi (turbo maxed) so with a bigger turbo i think around that boost level you will reach your goal.
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kentuckyslider

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93 S13 coupe with sr20/02 6spd maxima/03 G35 sedan "wifes"
Hopkinsville KY
5-20-2008
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| « Re: (nelson8708) | 11:37 AM 1/11/2009 |
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That's about what I'm hoping for. I would say I'm close to 370whp with my cams and stock intake. I made the 345whp with stock cams, and intake. I will be running the hx35 with tomie 260's and a greddy intake. Cams and intake are usually good for a solid 10% power incease on the SR. So I'm thinking 20-22psi and I'll be out of fuel with my 72lbs injectors and the rom tune. JWT has suggested that I data log and send the ECU back to them for a reflash. Do you think it's worth the time?
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Reno

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92 240sx FastBack
Internet Shadow
5-18-2005
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| « Re: (kentuckyslider) | 12:10 PM 1/11/2009 |
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whats wrong with the he351cw, larger compressor blade 59mm i believe and a hy35 exhaust so pretty much a hy35/hx40 hybrid :P ive seen one on a ca18.. WOW :P
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kentuckyslider

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93 S13 coupe with sr20/02 6spd maxima/03 G35 sedan "wifes"
Hopkinsville KY
5-20-2008
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| « Re: (Reno) | 3:43 PM 1/11/2009 |
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Nothing except for 2 things. 1. The 9cm2 housing will not flow near enough air to max out the hy35 compressor much less the HE351. The larger compressor with the small ex housing is good for diesels with slow moving cold exhaust gases trying to make power and pass emissions at the same time. The 9cm2 housing is limited to about 450whp on gas engines at 25psi and it is strapped to a compressor that will make 650whp on the HE351. 2. They have a odd sized almost 4" vband outlet that would take some serious custom work to ever get a downpipe to fit up on a S-chassis. Bad thing is it would be a nice turbo for gas 4 bangers if you could get an aftermarket ex housing but you can't. They are clamp style housings not bolt up like the HX series so you can't change housings. Basically the HE351 and the HY35 are both limited to about 52lb/min of flow because of the little ex housing. I almost bought one until I talked to a R&D guy I work with from cummins and he said stick with the older HX or H1 series if you want more than 500whp of flow on a gas engine. model whp range engines I've seen them on... LB/MIN flow
HY35 300-400whp (1.8L VW GTI made 350whp at 21psi) 52 HX35 350-550whp (SR20 360whp at 14psi/4G63 468whp at 28psi) 60(7blade) HX40 450-650whp (several 500+whp 4g63's at 28+psi) 70 HX52 600-800whp (never seen a dyno but compares to GT4094 or GT42) ?(80+)
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BoostFab

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Nissan Land
12-3-2003
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| « Re: (kentuckyslider) | 7:31 PM 1/11/2009 |
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| Quote, originally posted by kentuckyslider » | Nothing except for 2 things. 2. They have a odd sized almost 4" vband outlet that would take some serious custom work to ever get a downpipe to fit up on a S-chassis.
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that's a mate for 4" downpipe v-band ,and it's not odd at all. big power dyno queens are running 4" downpipe anyways. with proper fab work a 4" down isnt hard to accomplish. i'm doing a 4" downpipe for my s14 and the hx52
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kentuckyslider

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93 S13 coupe with sr20/02 6spd maxima/03 G35 sedan "wifes"
Hopkinsville KY
5-20-2008
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| « Re: (BoostFab) | 8:37 PM 1/11/2009 |
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I am considering staying with the internal gate on my HX35 for cost savings until I get a stand alone and bigger injectors. I should max out my tune with less than 25psi of boost. The stock WG actuator on a 2001 dodge truck is 20-23psi, I'm not sure which one. Do you think I will be ok staying with the stock actuator and internal gate or go ahead and weld it up and go with the 38mm tial?
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Reno

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92 240sx FastBack
Internet Shadow
5-18-2005
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| « Re: (kentuckyslider) | 9:25 PM 1/17/2009 |
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Since im the King of lazy... any idea how would an hx52 would spool with a twinscroll mani? KA? someone do the math plx, hmmm i havent seen an hx52 map in a while..
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kentuckyslider

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93 S13 coupe with sr20/02 6spd maxima/03 G35 sedan "wifes"
Hopkinsville KY
5-20-2008
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| « Re: (Reno) | 11:03 AM 1/18/2009 |
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I would think with a little head work and a 8000rpm limit it would be just sick. It should compare to Ramon's S372 in flow and spool so ask Cakefab about spoolup time. He seems to be very knowledgeable. I will be very close to 10's if not in them with the HX35 on my SR, so I would have to think that Ramon's S372 or a HX52 TS KA would be in the 9's with good tires, a 4.60 xterra R&P, and a Z32 tranny!
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Reno

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92 240sx FastBack
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5-18-2005
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| « Re: (kentuckyslider) | 12:25 PM 1/18/2009 |
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| Quote, originally posted by dsm-onster » | | If you can't throw any more money out there, why don't you try to max out the turbo you have first. Take it in steps. You'll learn more along the way. It's already a fairly large turbo. One member ran the hx52 with his 2.0L motor. It spooled to 10ish psi by 4800rpms. Divided runner manifold with a t4 flange and stock holset twin scroll turbine housing (17cm^2 I think), if you interested in that route. It does not come with a t6 flange, but a flange close enough to a t4 bolt pattern that you can widen the holes of your t4 manifold to make it clamp down fine. A twinscroll turbine housing with either turbo mentioned is the way to go for a semi-"street" car. But I wouldn't even try to street a 4cylinder with either. EDIT: which gt42 are you talking about? As respects to compressors, the gt4202r flows more than the hx52, and nearly the same as the s372. The gt4294r flows less than an hx52 and s372. The hx55 flows more than those, but less than the s376. I don't know where you'd get one, though. I believe there is no gt4292r. . .
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Thats a quote from another Forumso if i do my math correct a ka with a TS mani would spool 10 psi on a hx52 @ 4300 rpm hmmm
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Biggamehit

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89 KA24DE-T
Misawa, Japan
1-30-2005
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| « Re: (Reno) | 5:47 AM 1/22/2009 |
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nelson8708| Quote » | | "what happened? Did you sell it before you went over to JDM land?" |
No the car is stored in a garage.
kentuckyslider
| Quote » | | "BIGGAMEHIT, you should really consider the turbine housing in the link above. It has enough flow for 650whp at 32psi on a HX40........." |
Big power is never my goal, a well balanced car is. I made the 204hp @ 8psi @ 5500rpms, I daily drove and raced the car, had to sacrifice some where. Im aware of all of the HX turbos, if you seek big power, they can get you there for sure. I reved to 6500 rpms and I never had issue drifting. My car seen full boost at about 3500rpms on a Log manifold I have never ever entertained the thought of an SR. As far as my KA-T i will not be touching that for the next 4 years as I live in Japan now. Razi
| Quote » | "Biggame, how did you slide your car around with no power steering? Converted it to a real manual rack? Must've been difficult." |
Not at all. once you go about 5mph the wheel feels normal. Besides lol I warm up with about 315lbs in the gym lol... im pretty fit lol. yes i removed the PS lines and plugged the rack.
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Ken Park

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1991 240SX
Williamsburg VA
7-23-2006
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| « Re: (Biggamehit) | 10:48 PM 2/3/2009 |
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This is a great thread. I'd like to see more people post here who have been trying these Holsets over Garretts. I would consider an HX35 if I go T3 turbine/topmount with my car.
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Biggamehit

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89 KA24DE-T
Misawa, Japan
1-30-2005
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| « Re: (nelson8708) | 3:23 PM 2/4/2009 |
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yea i cant wait to come back from Iraq and build my setup, I already have a HKS manifold and a Newer H1C. Ill probably be going with a HX40 though.
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kentuckyslider

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93 S13 coupe with sr20/02 6spd maxima/03 G35 sedan "wifes"
Hopkinsville KY
5-20-2008
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| « Re: (Biggamehit) | 7:57 PM 2/4/2009 |
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You building a RB25? It will be sick with the HX40.
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Biggamehit

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89 KA24DE-T
Misawa, Japan
1-30-2005
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| « Re: (kentuckyslider) | 10:34 PM 2/4/2009 |
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yeap for my R33 ill be adding the HX40 to it the
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nyc240sx

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1995 Nissan 240sx SE
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9-20-2007
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| « Re: (Biggamehit) | 6:45 PM 3/4/2009 |
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iam putting a hx50 on my rb25 with a exotic speed manifold
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WDRacing
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1995 240SX, K5 Blazer
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11-25-2002
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| « Re: (Biggamehit) | 6:04 AM 3/5/2009 |
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| Quote, originally posted by Biggamehit » | | yea i cant wait to come back from Iraq and build my setup, I already have a HKS manifold and a Newer H1C. Ill probably be going with a HX40 though. 
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Same exact manifold and WG I was running over on Oki...lol. I ran a big TO4 with a .81 AR hotside though. So I was REALLY laggy...and on the RB20. I hate you for being over there
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Biggamehit

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89 KA24DE-T
Misawa, Japan
1-30-2005
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| « Re: (WDRacing) | 8:13 AM 3/5/2009 |
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hahahhha i paid 100 bucks for the manifold and WG
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nelson8708

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1989 Nissan 240sx Fastback
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12-14-2004
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| « Re: (Biggamehit) | 2:00 PM 3/5/2009 |
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| Quote, originally posted by Biggamehit » | | hahahhha i paid 100 bucks for the manifold and WG |
Ok, now i hate you too J/K....i'm so jealous . One day i will go over there for vacation and hope to bring back all kinda of jdm goodness
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kentuckyslider

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93 S13 coupe with sr20/02 6spd maxima/03 G35 sedan "wifes"
Hopkinsville KY
5-20-2008
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| « Re: (nelson8708) | 7:47 PM 3/5/2009 |
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I've finally got my HX35 running on my built SR. I'm currently runing 18psi and will be on the dyno at 25-30psi on 110 race gas in the next week if my JWT tune will hold it. Here is a link to my build thread on the SR board.... http://forums.nicoclub.com/zerothread?id=400168
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GTR PrYdE

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1993 Nissan 240SX, 2003 Evolution VIII
La Porte TX
6-5-2005
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| « Re: (Biggamehit) | 10:04 PM 3/5/2009 |
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| Quote, originally posted by Biggamehit » | | i run a Tiall 38mm you only want to run a 44mm if you are seeking mega boost. |
Misinformation... You want a bigger wastegate to keep boost low and prevent creep.
KA-T DD as of 6-01-2009
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nelson8708

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1989 Nissan 240sx Fastback
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12-14-2004
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| « Re: (GTR PrYdE) | 4:52 AM 3/6/2009 |
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| Quote, originally posted by GTR PrYdE » | Misinformation... You want a bigger wastegate to keep boost low and prevent creep. |
Higher boost pressure means more air coming in the engine and going out. You need the bigger wastegate to help prevent a boost spike or creep from the extra volume of air passing through. Your statement isn't wrong, just not 100% correct.
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Reno

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92 240sx FastBack
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5-18-2005
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| « Re: (nelson8708) | 3:53 PM 7/17/2009 |
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 i was gonna keep it a secret but i got a he351ve in the works, yes with a KA 
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Niclas_AB
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HX52Sorry, it didn't like the name of the server that the picture where put on Modified by Niclas_AB at 2:27 PM 7/21/2009
Modified by Niclas_AB at 2:28 PM 7/21/2009
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Chris28

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92 s13 KA-T
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7-14-2007
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| « Re: (Niclas_AB) | 4:13 PM 7/21/2009 |
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Quick question: I'll be running an HX25 on my t2 setup, what size oil restrictor should I run?Also, anyone know of a place selling holset turbos? Ebay doesn't have any hx25's listed, only the bigger ones.

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Reno

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92 240sx FastBack
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| « Re: (Niclas_AB) | 11:42 AM 8/2/2009 |
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 there fixed ur pic 4 u
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