Pooh gets a new screw

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The S14 turbo that has served me well for almost 10 years was actually falling off as was the manifold. It whistled and I could actually jiggle the whole thing. Even with that it could still push .5 and keep up with some cars, worn out RBs and SRs mostly, nothing serious. I have been so busy and I have a terminal case of laziass but I finally broke down and slapped on the T04E kit that has been languishing on the shelf for years. This is the HKS kit they made for the CA18. It is a cast iron manifold with a standard wastegate. I don't know what spring is in this one and I still have 17 year old stock injectors, granted they are being fed by an R33 Skyline pump but a fire hose full of water is useless if it ends in a kitchen faucet so I will not be finding out the spring tension via the right pedal test. The turbo is a true T04E not a T3/T4 hybrid. The compressor housing is a 50 trim with a tangential undivided A/R .48 exhaust. I have only run it down the street at light throttle but it is not what I would call laggy. The S14 was a bit more responsive but it was smaller and ball bearing. This car is bone stock, no metal head gasket, no high lift cams 160000km on the odometer and it has a big HKS FMIC and even so the turbo is coming on boost just under 3000 rpm. I quit leaning on it when I hit .5, don't want to pop the motor in ten minutes. I have the Innovate wideband in there and will use it to reset my VPC for the new turbo. I bent up a nifty heat shield out of 1mm diamondplate aluminum. It made tightening the inside oil return pipe impossible to do without popping the compressor housing off but IMO it looks purty cool and should help a little. I will be making a coil valley cover out of the same material and painting the valve covers and timing cover black very soon. Right now I just want to drive it for a few days and watch for leaks and loose ****.


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thats quite gangsta of you. i love the diamond plate heat shield. get her tuned and then break the engine.

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Break it when I get there!!! I want to watch pooh take a pooh.

TMS let me know exactly where you are at so I can start making plans to hit you up one day while I am down there.

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Okinawa is tiny, you could be anywhere on the island and be 45 minutes away. I live close to a couple of hotels; Renaissance, Rizzan park, Sun Marina and Moon beach.

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Well I made it to work with no problems. She purrs like a kitten, a 200 lb lion cub actually. I have'nt changed my fuel settings from the S14 turbine and it winds up real nice and it pulls hard. I can't wait to get a nice clear night to work out the fuel so I can actually see what it is capable of.

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Not so much distance as it is getting there. It has been 14 years so the huge family has lots of plans for me and the wife whom they have never met.

I also might need you to show me where to get all these CA parts you got. I sure would like to put some goodies on my CA if I could. I scored a set of Mikuni side draft carb adapaters finally after a year of searching. Luckily I have an 8 port sitting here for those. Probably won't ever do anything with them except rebuild the motor and let it sit there in all its glory. HA HA


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There are no CA parts left, I have them all!

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Figures

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anything in particular you were after? They don't call me the vulture for nothing!

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Very nice Mike!

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looking really good man, good to hear spool up is as good as it is. i am thinking of a simialar set up,

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Looks great Mike - What about the nylon line right up against the turbo housing?

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carb adapters? dude that is what i dream of at night. a nice blow through carb setup would make me cream my pants...and pull out my checkbook.

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yeah buddy!! I finally have one

TMS I will send you an email soon and get your thoughts on some stuff.


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AZhitman wrote:Looks great Mike - What about the nylon line right up against the turbo housing?
Oh you mean the thing that flopped over on it and melted like ice cream on the sidewalk? When I do the valve covers I am going with all AN fittings and steel braided hose on the breathers.

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wouldnt have it any other way. how hard is it to convert the valve covers to fit -AN fittings? i just think the nylon hose looks tacky.

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ahhh my to4e is going on soon....i need info tho.manifold to clear everything in the way,oil lines,dwn pipe..where did u get urs?

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r34 gtr wrote:wouldnt have it any other way. how hard is it to convert the valve covers to fit -AN fittings? i just think the nylon hose looks tacky.
Yank out the tubes in the valve covers, thread them for NPT and get NPT to AN adapters.
Masterdebater wrote:ahhh my to4e is going on soon....i need info tho.manifold to clear everything in the way,oil lines,dwn pipe..where did u get urs?
I wish I could give you some advice but your car is LHD right? The HKS manifold would not work because of the steering shaft.

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yea good ol right hand drive engines in lhd cars....i guess ill pay out the *** and have one made...

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Looks like you need a tune now! What will you be using?

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HKS VPC with GCC and AIC with GCC

The VPC lets me eliminate the air flow meter and the addition of the GCC allows me to adjust it for multiple points on the RPM scale.I still have the 370s in it and it rips on the way up so I will leave those in as the CPU is stock. I will use the AIC to run four subinjectors to start coming in as the stockers start maxing out.I set the VPC back when I had the rattling-on-the manifold S14 turbo using a narrowband A/F built into my Apex turbo timer and my buttdyno. When I slapped the E on it ran great with no changes. I checked my mix with the wideband and on the way up towards "oh my god it's not going to stop boosting, back off" it's pulling a solid low 12-high 11 mix. Once I have the boost set mechanically to .7 or less and I can actullay keep the pedal down without overboosting I will see when the 370s start needing help. I am picking up the sub bosses soon and I have an extra intake with a 60mm TB on it I can use.

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How did I not know you have a VPC Mike? I have been trying to find one to run with a SAFC for the longest, but the only one I keep seeing is that $500+ one that guy on eBay always lists. I'd pay $250 for a 10 year old magic box, but no more.

Looking good man. Has the little lady driven it yet?

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rico05 wrote:How did I not know you have a VPC Mike? I have been trying to find one to run with a SAFC for the longest, but the only one I keep seeing is that $500+ one that guy on eBay always lists. I'd pay $250 for a 10 year old magic box, but no more.

Looking good man. Has the little lady driven it yet?
You don't want to stack a piggyback on a piggyback like that. I got the VPC years ago at a nice price, set of rims or something like that. I only use it because I have it; were I without it I would go standalone. There is nothing wrong with it, it just isn't as flexible as a SA is. I can't manipulate my timing for instance, just the base.

You missed more than you think. Notice the repeated use of "my" in the posts. The car is mine now and she is not.

Well the car was sounding like a tractor, boost was coming on slower and spiking very high. This is actually my first external wastegate experience and in my virginity I never realized the importance of the boost signal to the gate. I simply thought "big *** spring should stay closed ok and open earlier than intended for now without it. I have a lot of good ideas, this was not one of them. I brought the car in and threw it up on the lift because that is the only way you can get to the gate after the frontpipe is on. I was screwing the line in and I finally understood the backassward logic I had been working under. The port actually works against the spring, not with it. Without it boost could not aid the exhaust pressure to overcome the spring and the result is boost well over 1 kilo. I also noticed the head of the wastegate wiggled, Well, I have torn down all my gates and sandblasted them so at one point all the bolts had been pulled and put back in, apparent like a pretty little girl. The bolts holding the spring chamber to the valve chamber were backing out as were the ones holding the cap on the spring chamber, one had already fallen out. The wastegate was literally falling apart. The gate valve was hanging open because most of the springs work was being used to separate the gate rather than hold the valve shut. result boost lag and John Deere tone.

I stripped it down still bolted to the manifold and tightened everything up like I meant it this time. The results? boost response is real nice, at 3000 the turbo raises it's head and full boost is in before 4k. The bad news? Now that the gate is properly installed I can finally see which spring I have, it is down to .4 kilo and a bit, Boooo! Riding around for a few days swinging it up to 1 kilo for short spurts gave me a glimpse of this turbos potential so while I can now crack the gate wide open and scream without worry it is not as satisfying. It's like dating Jenna Jameson and she only lets you get to first base when you have seen what she does in movies. If only I had another wastegate. If only I had another wastegate sitting in the corner next to my modem. if only that gate had the green .7 kilo spring in it, if only,,,,HEY, wait a minute! All those years of hustling parts and hoarding is paying off

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thats not fair i want my dam to4e on my ca!!!! dam u kids and ur good paying jobs haha jk sounds like a ride and a half man..one day soon i wil know lol.

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you can still use a boost controller on that spring cant you? my friend has a 10 psi spring in his and were using the EBC that he has to push it to 15-20 psi...

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yes. but I prefer to get my boost set as close to the desired pressure mechanically before I start cheating it up. I have multiple springs and an HKS EVC so I will get what I want one way or the other.

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nice. I soon will be building a t3/t4 setup for my ca18det. I cant wait to play with that one


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for the money t3/t4 would be best?? on stock block say 18 psi = net worth?

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well I went out last night for some logging. The boost set at .4K. With the wife on the laptop watching my mix, it's a very nice lap too, I am a big fan, I ran the tach to about 6000 in third. I am pulling about 12:1 which is a nice number without a dyno under the wheels, safe. It feels around 180-190hp and the power comes on silky smooth. I have removed the O2 sensor so it's running off the maps with no closed loop correction. While we were out some Japanese guy in a Saab turbo passed us so I gave chase. I pulled up next to him in 3rd and made sure he knew I was asking for a fight. He down shifted and I just put the pedal down. By the time I grabbed fourth he was behind me and fifth wasn't needed as he was lost in my mirror by the sweep of the corner. I don't think the car is very fast, just his was that slow but it was refreshing to get some blood on my sword after so long without a race.I picked up some sub bosses to weld onto the manifold, $30 a piece, ouch! I want them in though so I can push the engine into the higher boost pressures and actually make it fast so it was worth it.

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Show off !!

Good stuff


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