is this gonna help my car drift better?

[driftmyke]

i recently saved up some money and i decided im gonna spen it on my car. so i went surfing ebay and found these two items

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...ZWDVW

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...ZWDVW

1st is a power brace

2nd is bigger sway bars

and my question is is this gonna help my car drift better? cause this is gonna make my car handle better and in essance drifting is about how a car doesnt handle well?? i think. im not good with physics i just need to know if this is gonna help my car drift better

[p1rat3]

If i was drifting I'd want my car to handle good.

[neverlift]

If i was drifting I'd want my car to handle good.

truth but my car handles like ***

[positron1]

That's a deal on that power brace...what with the price of shipping these days. I found mine used but in excellent condition on ebay as well for $108. Snatch that up if you can because they, combined with some new tension control rods make a huge difference in the handling.

[JimmyMethod]

Everything about this thread makes me twitch.

[E7-S14]

Everything about this thread makes me twitch.

why?anything thatl stiffen up your suspension will help your car drift better.. but dont rely on the car to make you drift...its all tecqnique.. but yeah.. i say go for iit

[na3j nitsuj]

you dont really need those two things rightnow...

you need to start going to the tracks and get more seat time...

spend ur money on coilovers and suspension links and 2way LSD's or welded diff(cheaper)...

learn how to control the car...

then just do whatever you feel like is missing to make your car better...

better engine...more torque...

etc...etc...

hoped i helped...

oh yeah one more thing...

dont buy ebay stuff...

spend ur money wisely...dont buy something cus its cheaper...

research about the brand and quality....then u decide if its good for u or not...

if u buy cheap stuff u might end up paying more...if it breaks or something...

goodluck!

[240sxvaj]

you dont really need those two things rightnow...

you need to start going to the tracks and get more seat time...

spend ur money on coilovers and suspension links and 2way LSD's or welded diff(cheaper)...

learn how to control the car...

then just do whatever you feel like is missing to make your car better...

better engine...more torque...

etc...etc...

hoped i helped...

oh yeah one more thing...

dont buy ebay stuff...

spend ur money wisely...dont buy something cus its cheaper...

research about the brand and quality....then u decide if its good for u or not...

if u buy cheap stuff u might end up paying more...if it breaks or something...

goodluck!

I AGREE!

[E7-S14]

oh yeah one more thing...

dont buy ebay stuff...

spend ur money wisely...dont buy something cus its cheaper...

research about the brand and quality....then u decide if its good for u or not...

if u buy cheap stuff u might end up paying more...if it breaks or something...

goodluck!

From what i see Suspension Teqniques isnt a crappy brand.I donno about that "Nismo" brace tho
Modified by E7-S14 at 9:22 PM 6/11/2007

[Joe]

you need to start going to the tracks and get more seat time...

*claps*

i dont know why people think they need all these fancy expensive parts to drift. if you have a fully built car and a new driver they are still going to suck *** till they learn what to do. period.

[annunziato39]

The Power brace is always nice no matter if you drift or autocross or any type of motorsport. The fact is, if you have a 240, it is AT LEAST 9 years old, and depending on the S13 you have, it could be as old as 18 years. The body will begin to flex and a power brace will definatly stiffin' up the frame. I don't know who has the best or most rigid, but the idea behind a power brace is a good one. As far as sway bars, if you want to drift, i'd say try a thicker rear sway bar first. I think stock on an s13 is 16mm, pretty thin (hicas models have a 21mm i think). stock upfront in somewhere around 24mm for an S13. the thicker sway bar in in back will decrease the amount of lean in the rear of the car. That added rigidity in the rear will induse more oversteer. The same applies in the front, If you increase rigidity, you will increase understeer, and as most S13 owners know, we don't need any more of that. I'm not sure what the exact formula is, but thats a pretty good summary. I think Tanabe makes a rear sway bar that's 22mm thick. You may want to try just the rear, and if doesn't fit your driving style, go ahead and bump up the front too. But like it was said before, seat time is the best thing money can buy. If you learn the correct rules of line driving, its much easier to break them. Breaking points, downshifting, weight shifting are all things that will help you become an overall better driver, not just a better drifter. Solid 2-way diffs are awesome. I have a Kaaz 2-way and it has its plus and minuses. Its sick when you clip and apex and jump on the throttle. The car goes where you point it. The downside... i hope you don't have to drive it everyday. The older Kaaz 2-ways chatter like crazy when you turn at low speeds. But anyways, best of luck to you and i hope this helped.

[bone_stock_240]

and my question is is this gonna help my car drift better? cause this is gonna make my car handle better and in essance drifting is about how a car doesnt handle well?? i think. im not good with physics i just need to know if this is gonna help my car drift better

Save your money and spend it on beat up tires and track time and then worry about fancy stuff.

[BuLLeTdrift]

As a beginner driver, i would say deff dont get tanabe sway bars and just put the rear one on. It will cause to0 much over steer. I've seen it way too much. Anyway, just take your car out and see what you can do now. You're gonna suck at first, but than you build up skills. LSD and Coilovers before anything i'd say. Just like they all have said, just get some damn seat time!

[yokota180sx]

buy this in orderDiffSuspensionSeatsWheels and tires

until yuo get those 4 items, buy nothing else

[E7-S14]

*claps*

i dont know why people think they need all these fancy expensive parts to drift. if you have a fully built car and a new driver they are still going to suck *** till they learn what to do. period.

the kids asking about braces and swaybars..in what way are those fancy and expensive..

those parts would def. stiffen up the ride.. and will just make learning how to drift a little bit easier if anything

the parts that he asked about are basic stuff.. not fancy and expensive


Modified by E7-S14 at 9:39 PM 6/11/2007

[koukicody]

^^ word

a kazz or tomei would be awesome, but just get a factory vlsd if you cant afford one yet.

even just good shocks, like agx's or tokico hts's (if you can find some) will work wonders if you cant afford a good coilover system yet.

iirc Ken Gushi qualified for D1 in his ollllld 240 that had a stock sr, nismo clutch, kazz lsd, and tokico hts shocks on stock springs.

[yokota180sx]

ive drifted a friends S13 on stock suspension

It will give you better controll of your car doing it on a **** suspension

the huge amount of body roll will acutally improve your driving because you realize what weight transfer is going on and how it affects you

with coilovers its next to not apparent at all....

just do what i say, and practice..believe meI got a 2nd place at Mobara to prove the **** works

[ShogunStyle]

Gotta back yokota's call on that one. Not like i would know anything about drifting... I would definitely do one of the first two before any of the stuff you mentioned. Those are more of an accessory part. You will notice the biggest difference from the diff and suspension. I just got done setting up a beginner level s14 and the first thing we went with was diff then two weeks later (today actually) we put the coilovers on. The brand is not as important as the concept however I will say that you truly get what you pay for. In this case it was KAAZ diff and JIC FLT-A1. Best of luck with your project.

One last thing. I believe it was stated earlier in the thread but to reiterate... You could put a beginner in a fully built car and they will still spin out. On that note you should upgrade your car as your skill increases. I know this sounds weird coming from a shop owner whose job is to sell parts however I firmly believe that you should not let your car out drive you. Have fun and practice a lot.

[na3j nitsuj]

i say if you really want to spend ur money...

buy these parts in order...

1. good coilovers2. Welded diff3. rucas, tension rods, tie rod spacers

then save you money for drift events and tires(yokohama for the rears cuz they last pretty long)

when you are getting better at it then take the money that you saved and make ur car faster...

you dont really need the swaybars too much...

[yokota180sx]

worst advice ever

[AZhitman]

I'm not even gonna read the thread, how's that?

I saw the title, saw yoko had replied and went "Oh crap."

However, the best mod you can make is seat time. Don't buy parts unless you need them, and right now, you don't.

[AZhitman]

OK, I just read the whole thread. Yay me.

[yokota180sx]

no yay me for once

[Rudelude22]

Look at Hulk Hogans son, He Sucks d!ck at Drifting1!!!!!! but yet Dodge still lets him drive......umm duh!! yeah you dont need fancy smancy parts seat time will make you better. learning weight and balance, control.

[Cameron]

buy this in orderDiffSuspensionSeatsWheels and tires

until yuo get those 4 items, buy nothing else

lol yoko, im prolly gunna do that list but from the bottom up seeing as i dont make uber money.. but yea.. .. Then i can be a JDM Tyte Dorifto right?

[yokota180sx]

no, then you will have a car that is the minimal needed for efficient drifting

retard

[E7-S14]

wow... kinda cold huh yokoyta...

[yokota180sx]

no not reallyhe shouldnt have tried to be a smartass to someone that actually does what they tell other people too not just bench drift on a forum

[starkos14]

i dont know, i think a seat is a little overated... i would go in this order

coiloverssmall power upgrades(exhaust, intake)diffhigher power upgrades and wheels and tires go hand in handthen things to make the chassis more stiff

yokota, i dont think diff is the first thing to go for as you said before... learning to drift on open dif does suck, but the switch to any type lsd is a walk in the park after learning to get comfortable drifting on open diff. plus, watching a car try to drift on stock suspension is a sad sight

[BOOMSHAKALAKA]

Everything about this thread makes me twitch.