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I'm buying a vg30dett enigne swap and a spare motor. Going to put the one in and see how she does. other engine goign to see if they got one with a blown hg or something so I can get it cheap. And rebuild it.



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hey where you gonna get the motor from?



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dats wat i wanna know also where can i get the motor from. or even the de motor??



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I got 2 sources. One is here in FL the other is in Canda. The one in Canada marks14 just got his rb25det neo from. He got it fast and only problem was the turbo seals were bad. He is currently tearing the motor down to replace the bearing and seals so he knows it is good. Waiting on info from him on whether to order from them or not. If everyoen gets ready around the same time we could get a group buy and maybe save 1-200 on each motor set
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dat sounds like a nice plan for a group buy ahah everybody would be doing the swap at same time lol.....
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At least we could help each other out on the swap...We could all start our engine at the same time lol....
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dat would be crazy to see everybody post up first start vids.. dat would be great too cuz everybody would be doign the swap at same time so if somebody is having problem it would be easy to find answer cuz everybody is doign this swap... i can tell that this will be a popular swap very very soon..
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Man! I never knew this would generate this much interest! I guess that the RB swap situation and the costs involved just to source parts for the RB series engines makes the VG30DETT (plus the baseline power 50 more than an RB25DET) one of the best swap options based on cost just for upgrades. I guess it won't be too long that Jim Wolf will be cranking out more cams and other assorted goodies and they'll wonder why there's a spike!

Again, thanks for the interest and the enthusiasm!

Oh! Someone asked about the wheels on the 240SX- they are Konig wheels. I don't know if they make that style anymore.



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FTW??

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Mine is going to be auto.....no boost lost in between shifts.... besides it'll be in the vert which it will become a show car.....But on the way to the show it can dominate the highway
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Are you going to be selling the kits on a first pay first serve basis, or do I have to contact you to get dibs on a reserved spot? How much time will you be able to put a kit together in?



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Are you going to be selling the kits on a first pay first serve basis, or do I have to contact you to get dibs on a reserved spot? How much time will you be able to put a kit together in?

I'll have enough sets ready at the end of the month. I have collected the names via e-mail of those who have expressed willingness to purchase the kit when it debuts. All you have to do is to write me. I'm selling them to those who pay for them.

It only takes me 1-2 days to put the kit together, depending on my workload.

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FTW??

http://www.osakajdmmotors.com/...T.htm

Reno-

I'm glad that you posted a picture of one of the JDM VG30DETTs because the scrap yards treat these just like any other engine. They cut everything. I would like to stress to get a half-cut or better yet, a USDM VG30DETT that hasn't had the intake piping cut or anything else cut, for that matter. AND it's important to include MAF sensor, SMICs (I haven't designed the FMIC yet), wiring and ECU.

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You better save one for me.... One of my contractors does dirt track racing and has a shop. I might be able to use his shop to do my swap
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You better save one for me.... One of my contractors does dirt track racing and has a shop. I might be able to use his shop to do my swap

Copy all!

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You have been emailed. Tomorrow is the first day of September... the countdown begins!!
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If it were a master swap kit for a VQ30DE + Z33 6-speed I would buy the instant it came out. Very cool none the less. VG30DETT is a great option for monster power + factory reliability.




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wow now thats an awsome machine!
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If it were a master swap kit for a VQ30DE + Z33 6-speed I would buy the instant it came out. Very cool none the less. VG30DETT is a great option for monster power + factory reliability.



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If it were a master swap kit for a VQ30DE + Z33 6-speed I would buy the instant it came out. Very cool none the less. VG30DETT is a great option for monster power + factory reliability.

Matt-

I responded to your e-mail. The VQ series is the next in line for me to do next year as a viable swap option for S13 and S14 (as soon as I get an S14). We do a lot of work for VQ engines in Maxima and in 350Z for customers around here (gotta pay the bills)

VQ35DE with 6MT- It would definitely be a giant killer in the S13. Even in the 350Z, that thing has more torque and pull and makes me think that in the S13, we're gonna have to beefen up stress areas even more. One of our customers came back with his dynosheet after we did a total rebuild on his VQ35DE in his 350Z. 456 bhp

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You have been emailed. Tomorrow is the first day of September... the countdown begins!!

I hope you are prepared, bro!

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Matt-

I responded to your e-mail. The VQ series is the next in line for me to do next year as a viable swap option for S13 and S14 (as soon as I get an S14). We do a lot of work for VQ engines in Maxima and in 350Z for customers around here (gotta pay the bills)

VQ35DE with 6MT- It would definitely be a giant killer in the S13. Even in the 350Z, that thing has more torque and pull and makes me think that in the S13, we're gonna have to beefen up stress areas even more. One of our customers came back with his dynosheet after we did a total rebuild on his VQ35DE in his 350Z. 456 bhp


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bump??
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What size are the downpipes?
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They are no bigger in inner diameter than stock.
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any updates on kit info....
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They are no bigger in inner diameter than stock.

Any chance you'll have other options (both 4 and 5 bolt) in the future, or are there clearance issues when running other than stock size pipes?
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I'll have to look at it this weekend and see where future improvements can be made, but for now, I want to keep it as close to stock as possible. Future development/refinement will rely heavily on our own R&D as I start to experiment with different turbos. Clearance is fine.

I've got three more kits to complete in between working on other cars and an SR build that I'm heavily involved with right now. I'll have 6 kits ready to go at the end of the month

Now that I am an advertiser with NICO, the price per kit is $1,500.00 plus shipping. Shipping is approx $125.00 with insurance to USA. If you are a NICO member, I'll ship it for free to the USA. If you live outside the USA, I'll knock $100 off the purchase price, but I can't ship for free. BUT you gotta say you are a NICO club member with your handle.


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Any chance you can put together my kit without the downpipes as I want to go with a larger size, and how would that affect the price?
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So it's straight $1500 for us then workign on gettign a palce to put my car. As soon as my 22ft box truck sells I'll be ordering... Anyway you could get me measurement of the driveshaft? So I can have one made. I'll do a step by step documentary of the install with plenty of pics uploaded each night.... Shouldn't take more than 2 weeks....
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Question... I have orders to Bahrain and I should be there in March. If I bring my '89 hatch with me, can you do the swap? If so, how much? And can I help?



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Any chance you can put together my kit without the downpipes as I want to go with a larger size, and how would that affect the price?

At a later date, I'll start to offer the kit in basic form, but until then, I am just offering the master kit.

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So it's straight $1500 for us then workign on gettign a palce to put my car. As soon as my 22ft box truck sells I'll be ordering... Anyway you could get me measurement of the driveshaft? So I can have one made. I'll do a step by step documentary of the install with plenty of pics uploaded each night.... Shouldn't take more than 2 weeks....

Tomorrow evening, I'm going to put the VG240 up on the lift and take it apart and take more pics for those who want to see what the work underneath looks like. I'll post them here and I'll also give the dimensions on the shaft.

I'll be doing this in order to get the step-by-step tutorial/instructions together.

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Question... I have orders to Bahrain and I should be there in March. If I bring my '89 hatch with me, can you do the swap? If so, how much? And can I help?

If you are coming here, you will want to have your car here You will see all kinds of cars and you will be kicking yourself everyday wishing you had brought your car if you don't.

One word of advice, keep the car as stock as possible because the Bahraini Traffic office will intentionally try to find things to fail your car for if it looks like it is a race car. If your car is modified, return it to stock condition, make sure you have factory installed equipment, like reclining buckets (no full bucket allowed in the inspection process) and a back seat with all interior molding. If you have a cage, take it out. Wheels cannot extend out past the fender line and the height must be stock. After you pass the inspection and get the tags, you can do all the mods you want.

If you are intending to use any aftermarket stuff you currently have on your car, take it off now and get them ready for shipment. You haver the time to do it right and don't wait until the last minute because you won't have time. During your household goods shipment, put all your go-fast stuff in boxes. make sure the items are clean, gas and oil free and non-hazardous. If you don't, the movers won't touch it. You say March, you will want to ship your car and your household goods as soon as you have the orders in hand. It will take three months for your car to get here. If you are only gonna be here a year, then you will want to maximize your enjoyment with your car here. There are not that many of us in Bahrain that have the S13 and there is only one S14.

As far as doing a VG30DETT install on your car, of course I can do the swap. The cost will be $7,000.00, and that will include all parts and labor. As for helping out, thanks for the offer, but I have two other guys who depend on the work to get paid. Please understand. You will get a quality end product, and as a "werks" car, I will badge it as part of the Mayhem series.

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Copy all. My car is so not a race car (well, yet ). Pretty much the only aftermarket stuff I have is a stereo and S14 seats. I'll be looking for you when I get there. I CAN'T WAIT!!!
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Ok I've read this entire thread and I don't even have a 240SX. I actually have a 300zxTT that used to be NA. I ordered a front clip from San Fran and I installed it myself and turned my NA into a Beast. I want to make a couple of points here.
1: Very nice job on the kit. These cars should be beasts when put together correctly.
2: I ordered my whole front clip from http://www.venus-auto.com for around $2500 (located in San Fran)
3: The 240SX engine bay has a ton more room that my 300zx bay. But regardless do all the maintenance like timing belt change, new turbos, Lightened flywheel and new clutch before you drop in the engine. It would suck to just drop in the engine and find out in a month that one of those things was going bad and you have to pull the engine out all over again just to change a turbo.
4: Do you sell the oil filter relocater kit by itself for us 300zx guys? I'd be interested in that (oil changes are a pain, yes I know that well).
5: If I had a 240 I'd be interested in a dual exhaust like the 300z has. Any way to switch to that kind of exhaust setup
6: Why did you go with blow off valves and not retain the recirculator valves. They are A LOT better for the VG30DETT motor. They are also better for performance. Instead of blowing out the boost to atmosphere, they hold your boost in a chamber and when you step on the gas again you should have instant boost.

Just my 2cents. Nice job. I do have some buddies that I roll with that have some 240SXs. I'm going to have to turn them on to this thread.





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i think the gas tank is in the way for a dual exhaust setup
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Call me wrong, but, for the money why not just throw a (I can't believe I'm going to say this) LS-1 in. Brand new in the crate $4k, 350hp/350tq, N/A, light, easy to get parts, reliable, very upgradeable.

That setup does look sweet though. Don't get me wrong, I am a complete Nissan head, I just wish they would come up with some serious displacement that is small and fairly modular for a reasonable price out of the box, not to mention not getting killed on true factory parts.

I'm an inch away from moving to France so I can get a job at the Nissan Corp facility in Trappes (I’ve seen job postings that I qualify for with my degree) just so I can slap the moron who thinks 1 CV axel for my 240 is worth $600 bran new, and every nut and bolt are worth $40 each.





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Quote, originally posted by greatgonzer »
Ok I've read this entire thread and I don't even have a 240SX. I actually have a 300zxTT that used to be NA. I ordered a front clip from San Fran and I installed it myself and turned my NA into a Beast. I want to make a couple of points here.
1: Very nice job on the kit. These cars should be beasts when put together correctly.
2: I ordered my whole front clip from http://www.venus-auto.com for around $2500 (located in San Fran)
3: The 240SX engine bay has a ton more room that my 300zx bay. But regardless do all the maintenance like timing belt change, new turbos, Lightened flywheel and new clutch before you drop in the engine. It would suck to just drop in the engine and find out in a month that one of those things was going bad and you have to pull the engine out all over again just to change a turbo.
4: Do you sell the oil filter relocater kit by itself for us 300zx guys? I'd be interested in that (oil changes are a pain, yes I know that well).
5: If I had a 240 I'd be interested in a dual exhaust like the 300z has. Any way to switch to that kind of exhaust setup
6: Why did you go with blow off valves and not retain the recirculator valves. They are A LOT better for the VG30DETT motor. They are also better for performance. Instead of blowing out the boost to atmosphere, they hold your boost in a chamber and when you step on the gas again you should have instant boost.

Just my 2cents. Nice job. I do have some buddies that I roll with that have some 240SXs. I'm going to have to turn them on to this thread.

Thanks for the frank comments, greatgonzer. I was hoping to get some input from the 300ZX crowd.

The car we have put together does run like a beast, albeit, improvements can be made. My main focus was to ensure that the chassis and the hard points in this kit could stand up to the beating, and they do. I did mention earlier in the threads to do the obvious things that you mentioned before putting the motor in. Honestly, I know some folks will be stretched thin just with the purchase price of the kit and with the full swap, but nonetheless, the areas you addressed were addressed, and it's like "pay me now or pay me later". Everybody will gamble and hope they have stuff that will hold up from the swap. When you said you bought your swap for $2500, was that for a front clip? I am telling everybody that the front clip would be most economical instead of piecing things from here and there. The oil filter relocator kit can be put together for the 300ZX guys. The reason I put it in for the swap kit is due to the location of the stock oil filter point now residing over the custom subframe. There's no way to get around the oil filter relocator kit in the 240SX with VG. As was mentioned in a thread after you, the stock fuel tank in the 240sx is all the way aft and to the right of the car. Hence, nowhere to go with dual exhaust, at the moment. The only way around that is to ditch the OEM fuel tank and plumb in an internal fuel cell in the trunk area. Not too many people would be keen on that unless they were going for a track use vehicle. The idea is playing around in my head, but that won't be until next year. I was actually thinking of dual twin N1 coming down the center and exiting out through the center of the rear. As for why we went with dual BOV- we just wanted to. I've messed around with recirculating systems for SR and it comes down to some like them and some don't. If you have a design or something I can read, I'm all for looking at it and seeing how to incorporate it in the 240SX with VG. I appreciate anybody you know to come check out this post. Again, thanks for the candidness and we hope to see you in a 240SX with VG or a 300ZX with SR. I've seen the Z32 in Japan with SR20DET swaps. The advantage is in the weight reduction and the room gained and parts support for SR in Japan is more than VG. Other than that, I don't see SR making more power than VG.

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