VG30ET S13 built by Rick
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VQ30DE S13 built by Broaner
http://maxima.cardomain.com/ride/767108

VQ30DE/VQ35DE Hybrid S14 built by Fred_Allen_Burge
http://www.engineswaptech.com/

LS1 S14.5 built by 240sx-ls1
http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/...67840

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maybe, but for now, we're trying to keep things as sensible as possible, find all the weak points/strong points of the VG240, learn the engine and car all over before we start messing around with custom manifolds and turbos. A good stock VG30DETT in this chassis is plenty enough already. As someone already said, it's like a Z32 that went on a diet. This car will give you whiplash, and it is scary how it clips along and pulls you into the seatback If a person wanted to upgrade the turbos, I would recommend sticking with internal wastegate, so the GT28RS in a twin configuration would be more than plenty. The stock manifolds are short enough already, and I don't see any real benefit of customizing a set. I guess if the aesthetics mattered to someone, why not, but it's not like you can see them anyway.

Who inspired me to do this? 300SX, of course. I admire his work in both the S13 and S14. My challenge was to swap without cancelling anything, and I was able to do it and get it running. Now, as the kit becomes a reality, I am depending on our community to provide feedback and for someone else to come up with further refinement, if that is possible.

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^^ sweet i want in!!

Hey! Just write me at postmaster@180sxfaktory.com to be put on my list of serious folks who are contemplating doing this swap

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Tein tie rods/ Battle version tension rods/Etching K S INC exhaust /test pipe/Tien He coilovers

Battery relocation/Q45 or j30 brakes on the way

yeah dood i know wat u talking about. my friend has a 300zTT and i hate just looking at the engine bay b/c its sooo cramped. im like, man it must suck to work on this car? i love my engine bay b/c there is so much space to work on!

Yeah, as I told one of my clients, the 300ZX was built around the VG30DETT, and I think Nissan had ET (not Eddie Torres, but ET, the Extra-Terrestrial), with his magical long fingers, in mind when they figured out who could maintain it without dropping the whole engine/transmission out of the bottom just to facilitate regular maintenance. I've done enough of those "regular maintenance" jobs on Z32, and it ain't fun. If you own one and you take it somewhere for maintenance and they charge extra, don't get mad, just be glad that someone is willing to touch it. Who knows, maybe they have ET or Eddie Torres there to do his magic!

Here's some pics of the subframe and the transmission crossmember for the VG30DETT swap. Enjoy!

This is the heart of the kit to make it sit just right. As you can see, I did not remove any power steering lines or anything. The transmission crossmember is completely one-off and was designed with the Z32 and the S13 crossmember influences. The subframe is notched and reinforced inside. How? It's chambered with ribs. I use the same 5mm plate steel throughout and reinforced the factory welds, as needed. The subframe and the crossmember- they will break you before you can break them.

Again, thanks for looking and drop me a line!

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Damn that thing has more clearance then a regular 300zx!

Yes, it does, and another benefit is that the inherent heat soak problem that has plagued some Z32 is not there in the S13 with VG30DETT. You can say that there is some benefit from having more "free space" for heat transfer out of the car. Just simple physics and common sense.

Apparently, this full swap has caught the attention and interest of those who have been wanting to see something like this done to the extent it has. We have drag season starting next month, so right now, we're just tweaking the car. I'm excited about how this car will do. The kit itself is still on track for a late September release. Those of you who wrote to me about it, thanks!

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Yes, this car looks like crap, and we were driving it for a while until the water pump in the previous VG took a dump. Yes, this is another engine from a 1989 300ZX. The engine that you see now pushed a 1989 300ZX to a 11 sec 1320 and clocked in at 220 KPH (138.6 MPH). This Miata has a complete custom front and rear subframe, a 300ZX rear end with LSD. We're also getting this car ready for drag duty. Should be fun to drive/watch it take down some unsuspecting Skylines and such. Of course, we're fabricating a roll cage! Anybody need a Miata engine with tranny?

Come september I think I'm going to have to buy your kit.

Keep the good work up

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I dont think Ive seen a Miata built into a drag car...

Any performance numbers/weight on the car yet?

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Also, just curious about why you retained the SMICs, besides the point you've already made to just get a fully functioning VG in there. Any room in the future to go FMIC?

So would I, but I'm going to have to import a 95-98 240SX or EDM 200SX to tailor this package. Yes, it doesn't take hard math to figure that the S14 chassis is going to be an easier go than the S13. Here in Bahrain, we only have one S14, and it already has a 2JZGTE swap with this crazy T78 stuck out of the hood. I tried to get the car off the guy, but he won't sell it. So, my only alternative is to buy one or have someone send me theirs, and I'll do the entire R&D and make the kit based off of it. Anybody who wants to be the first S14 with a complete clean swap VG30DETT or VG30DE (that means nothing cancelled from the VG30DETT or the S14; retain all factory options and essentials), drop me a line. Serious inquiries only, and it will require a lot of faith and trust on behalf of all parties concerned.

Anyway, I have an ECR33, but here again, I'm not gonna base an S14 swap on a different chassis code, regardless of how similar they are. I've been asked to do so, but it wouldn't be right.

Performance/numbers- we'll see next month when test and tune starts. I will tell you now that the car will give you whiplash. A the drop of the clutch, it'll do donuts for days. It pulls strong through all the gears, and you'd swear that this engine was modded, but it is not. Just bone-stock VG30DETT put into a lighter chassis with better CG. When everything is sweet, I'll do video of it and post it.

Modified by D2180SX at 6:58 AM 8/10/2006

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my thoughts as of now. Screw the RB30 lol. I think I'll do the VG swap when I get the time/money!

RB swaps into S13. I dig them, and I'll do one with equal weight distribution via lead plates next year. I guess it goes against the popular argument that I would be defeating the pupose of putting a high-hp engine into a light car by adding weight. Any weight I add will be in locations to equalize it out to 49/51. This and chassis strengthening and reinforcement combined with beefier suspension should make that argument moot. But we shall see...

Pro's for going with VG into S13:
- VG30DETT swaps and technical support is plentiful in North America and Europe
- Aftermarket (JWT is the biggest, then STILLEN) and OEM replacement parts/manufacturers are more plentiful than for RB/CA/SR (going from scarce to available in this order)
- Weight distribution in the S13 chassis is better due to CG being moved to the center of the car versus in-line 6/V8 (yes, there is an argument that LS1 doesn't add weight to the nose)
- A Nissan dealership repair center can work on your engine and transmission (if you want them to; not everybody is wrench-inclined)

I guess you can add to this list, but in the end, VG seems to be the smarter option to go, since not everybody has the support of a major Japanese parts manufacturer for RB.

Hi! If you look at the pictures, you can see the master brake cylinder. It and the clutch master cylinder are in their stock location. I did not have to hide anything. The reason why is because we spent a lot of time with taking measurements, test-fitted and monkeyed around with a few designs before settling for the configuration you see. The main goal was to not cancel anything. That goal was achieved.

300ZX- I owe it all to him and for his knowledge. I e-mailed him, he gave me his notes via threads and pics, and I went from there. I just took his design modifications and went to the next level. I wanted to be the first to do the swap with no cancellations, and until someone can dispute it, I guess I have that claim. In reality, it means nothing but personal satisfaction. I also did it because I think our scene has gotten a bit stale. I wanted to be punk rock about it and throw the balance of the scene off with a fresh set of possibilities. Don't get me wrong, I love the SR and CA, as well as the RB, but I love it when the obvious isn't so obvious.

Back to your thread. I stayed with the SMICs because, as you said, I wanted to utilize everything I could from the front cut. FMIC- I already know that this is gonna be something people want. It will require modifying the intake in order to make room for the FMIC. I'll do it, eventually, or maybe somebody who gets my kit will be inspired to do it and take what I'm doing to a new level. That's cool, too! Punk rock is cool!

Last night while working on the VG240, I thought about why someone hadn't gone the route we did with the 240SX to extent we had. I guess the "path of least resistance" and JDM envy had us all under the spell back in the day. I remember a time when CA18DET in a 240SX was looked down on. I don't even know who started the rumor that a CA was an under-powered option over SR. That guy or group needs their heads checked. Anyway, we've been the route of SR with a nice representation of CA coming up, followed by a contingent of folks doing RB swap and a following being developed for 1J/2J and an even more obscure, but cool group- the LS1 hybrid tuners. The V family (VG/VQ/VH) series, to me, is the next group that I see that will come up strong. Lets face it, Nissan has put their entire force behind the V family. The RB series will never see production again unless we get companies like Dart to buy the rights to produce the RB. That will probably never happen, but you see where I am going.

I love engines, both Japanese and American domestic, I love forced induction, I love big horsepower NA, I love the sound of oversized cams and crackling exhaust notes that make the hairs on the back of my neck stand up, and I love hybrids that are done right. Cars to me are nothing more than another form of canvas to work art on. That's why I love what I do and I do what I love.

Ok, ok, ok... to the point of why I am posting this:

VG swap compared to SR/CA/RB pro's:

- VG30DETT has a lot of manufacturer/OEM support in North America
- VG30DETT/Z32 has a huge North American fan base
- Technical support can be found in many cities
- Lots of aftermarket products (JWT/Stillen, et al.)
- VG30DETT was sold in North America
- You can walk into any Nissan Parts Center or parts store and order what you need without cross-referencing
- 300 bhp in stock form with 5-speed manual; 280 bhp in stock form with 4-speed automatic
- Better center of gravity; CG sits in the middle of the car when in the S13.

V swaps over SR/CA/RB con's:

- Not a direct plug-in
- Subframe, transmission crossmember, downpipes, y-pipe need to be modified/manufactured
- Need to remove the engine to access the turbos
- Need a custom drive shaft (yeah, the RB and 1J/2J do, as well)
- Oil filter relocation kit needed
- Oil pan needs customized
- Add your own cons

I had these pro/cons in mind when I did this swap. My goal was to overcome the cons, as well as to keep the engine/chassis options with no cancellations, do not disturb/modify brake/clutch master cylinders, as well as to use as many pieces from the Z32 front cut as possible. These goals were achieved.

Anyway, I hope you folks like the hybrid. I know I do !

I will be away in Thailand for 15 days starting tonite, so if you write me and I don't answer right away, it's not a dis. I gotta do stuff in Bangkok and Phuket and get some relaxation away from the 150 degree F heat here in Bahrain. I'll be taking a buttload of pics of stuff I see there. Yes, there is a tuner scene in Thailand. I know what you were thinkin'!