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Reno
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92 240sx FastBack
Internet Shadow
5-18-2005
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| « Re: VG30DETT into 1989 240SX (MeanGreenS13) | 5:36 PM 3/16/2007 |
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when u get a chance can u get a video of the car on idle with hood open with walk around, i love those types of videos "_" 
| Quote, originally posted by WDRacing » | | There isn't anyone on here who hates the SR as much as I do. |
| Quote, originally posted by tu_bryan » | | i wanna buy a civic so i can rice it out |
| Quote, originally posted by WDRacing » | Anything SR related automaticlly makes your 240 Queer, its like a STD WD |
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whitetshirtguy
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95 nissan 240
lexington sc
9-20-2006
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| « Re: VG30DETT into 1989 240SX (180sxfaktory) | 6:43 PM 3/16/2007 |
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| Quote, originally posted by 180sxfaktory » | I'm studying the wiring for S13, S14 for North America, UK, Europe and Asia and I am talking with a wiring company to do the custom harnesses for the dash and for power and all of the stuff that anybody would need to do this swap. Great stuff takes time, and I'm not gonna rush anything I put out there. The last thing I want is to be known for crappy products that don't work. I may be slow, but at least in the end, I can say I did it right. That goes for the hard stuff , as well. If anybody ends up with the kit from me, they will thank me for taking my time because this swap went from a challenge, to a working example, to almost being released as is, and now to refinement and copyright. Let it be known that I am doing this all by myself, and I do not have some gigantic research lab and a clock that warps time. Just a small place, good friends, equipment, a main job to fuel all of this stuff plus my own projects and an end goal. If people are disappointed with me, and yeah, it's my fault for being too promising initially, I apologize. As I said in a few posts ago, I have a client that is gonna be here this month with his 240SX, and we will go from there. I'm not gonna rush for any money or promises of fame. That's for amateurs. |
didnt try and sound rude i just hadnt read anything bout it in a while and i just want to know what is goin on but you have anwserd my question
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180sxfaktory
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1989 RS13 180SX 1991 RMS13 240SX 1992 RS13 200SX
Manama
8-3-2006
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| « Re: VG30DETT into 1989 240SX (whitetshirtguy) | 12:49 AM 3/17/2007 |
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| Quote, originally posted by whitetshirtguy » |
didnt try and sound rude i just hadnt read anything bout it in a while and i just want to know what is goin on but you have anwserd my question |
You weren't rude. Sorry for sounding so hardcore. I apologize for this seemingly long process.
Dale180SX FAKTORY
Worldwide crunk!
http://www.180sxfaktory.com  
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180sxfaktory
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1989 RS13 180SX 1991 RMS13 240SX 1992 RS13 200SX
Manama
8-3-2006
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| « Re: VG30DETT into 1989 240SX (180sxfaktory) | 2:11 PM 3/17/2007 |
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While doing some research tonite, I came across IMSA GTU cars from 15-18 years ago. A team campaigning the Nissan 240SX in America in the IMSA series, Leitzinger Racing, was using a V6 3000cc NA. If you google Leitzinger 240SX, you'll see some pics of the cars, as well as cars from other makes/models. The cars were all wide-body, tube chassis affairs. Just goes to show you that when one thinks they've done something first, someone has already been there and done it. Granted, the cars were all tube-framed. With a tube-frame and a fiberglass shell, you can put any engine in it (with calculated measurements of course). By taking my working example of VG240 and evolving to the custom tube cross-member/sub-frame for the VG30DE/DETT, at least I am thinking in the right direction. With a tube cross-member, I can ensure that the engine/transmission and driveshaft all line up properly by being able to raise/lower the engine in an effort to ensure that the power produced does not get wasted and gets transmitted to the rear more efficiently. Another benefit by doing this, I am allowing for more room, as well as widening the scope of engines that can be placed in the S13/S14 chassis.
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EMK
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92 s13 Hatch
Greensboro NC
3-19-2007
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| « Re: VG30DETT into 1989 240SX (180sxfaktory) | 12:01 PM 3/22/2007 |
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I know you have business to run and stuff to to but there was a hint at doing the VQ35 swap into an s13 I really would like to find out more about what's going on with this concept  . I myself just recently got my 240 and I want to do this swap plus a 6 speed tranny and possibly later on upgrade to TT. You know 350Z/ GTR powertrain. I have time to wait and save I just wanna know if you have any plans of doing this one.
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fayceoff
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sneaking up behind you...
3-6-2006
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| « Re: VG30DETT into 1989 240SX (EMK) | 2:19 PM 3/22/2007 |
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here you go. 8 pages of it.
http://forums.nicoclub.com/zerothread?id=207033
 "It's never a good time to quit." - Jaymee Clarke (3/23/91 - 8/1/07)Help me get Dale Davis back for stealing Jaymee's car!! / VG30DETT into 1989 240SX
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whitetshirtguy
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95 nissan 240
lexington sc
9-20-2006
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| « Re: VG30DETT into 1989 240SX (EMK) | 5:04 PM 4/21/2007 |
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ok well i just bought a 90 nissan d12 hardbaody and the vg30e will bolt in to those truck which has the same motor as a 240 so if those two motors bolt in to a truck and we have the the same motor in a 240 then what is stoping the vg to bolt right in as well to a 240
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MeanGreenS13
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1993 Nissan 240sx
Vero Beach FL
8-20-2005
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| « Re: VG30DETT into 1989 240SX (whitetshirtguy) | 7:04 PM 4/21/2007 |
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oilpan, kframe, tranny mount etc
1997 SVT Cobra
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whitetshirtguy
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95 nissan 240
lexington sc
9-20-2006
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| « Re: VG30DETT into 1989 240SX (MeanGreenS13) | 5:37 PM 4/23/2007 |
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| Quote, originally posted by MeanGreenS13 » | | oilpan, kframe, tranny mount etc |
so uhh you tellin me that a fire wrench and a welder can fix that lil problem what about the motor mounts could i use the ones off the truck or would they have to be fabed as well
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fayceoff
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sneaking up behind you...
3-6-2006
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| « Re: VG30DETT into 1989 240SX | 3:40 AM 4/24/2007 |
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I met with Dale yesterday and gave him the deposit for my Z32 half-cut. I went and looked at the shop, and while they don't have much by way of space and high-tech tools, they are doing big things there. There's an S14 Silvia with a 2JZ-GTE swap and I believe a T70 turbo, a first-gen Supra with a 1JZ-GTE swap, as well as an FD being rebuilt pretty much from the ground up. I'm very impressed with both Dale and the other guys in the garage.
I just received word today that my car has arrived here in Bahrain, but unfortunately I have to go out on a mission in a matter of hours and I won't be able to pick it up for a couple of weeks. I'll keep you guys posted as things get done with my project - I'm calling it the Mayhem FairladySX. Look for a new thread when I get back and take some before pictures as things get rolling.
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midnightsky
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Soon to be a 240sx w/vg30dett
Niagara Region ontario
4-30-2007
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| « Re: VG30DETT into 1989 240SX (fayceoff) | 7:21 PM 4/30/2007 |
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Hi, I am new here, and also a new driver. Currently driving some garbage 93? saturn that is manual. Is this project still alive? Because I am extremely interested in it, as I can get a s13 for probably 500$ with a bad motor. And this swap looks very promising, and it seems vg30detts are cheaper then SRs and Rbs. Assuming they are because there isnt the demand.
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midnightsky
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Soon to be a 240sx w/vg30dett
Niagara Region ontario
4-30-2007
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| « Re: VG30DETT into 1989 240SX (midnightsky) | 8:06 PM 4/30/2007 |
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sorry for double postOk, like a good little noob I did my research. Except one question, how much is this custom drive shaft going to cost me?
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kouki munster
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97 base 240
anderson SC
11-9-2005
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| « Re: VG30DETT into 1989 240SX (midnightsky) | 5:08 PM 5/1/2007 |
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| Quote, originally posted by midnightsky » | | sorry for double post Ok, like a good little noob I did my research. Except one question, how much is this custom drive shaft going to cost me? |
$300 +/- $50
s14, sr now fully operational, 15psi= no traction, 23psi= even less traction 
Now with a new motor that is in better shape than the last one, anyone got som 255/40/18 tires they want to sell 
 04 F-250, 7,500 pound whistlin water buffalo 
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midnightsky
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Soon to be a 240sx w/vg30dett
Niagara Region ontario
4-30-2007
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| « Re: VG30DETT into 1989 240SX (Beatupsx) | 5:41 PM 5/1/2007 |
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Yeah... I had thought around there...I won't be starting this project probably till next spring or summer...as I don't have enough right now. I have been reading though on swaps for a long time, and this is easily the best one yet.I found this one website that sells vg30dett's. They have two different ones. One with just the engine, and one with a bit more stuff, like the ECU. Do I have to get a half cut? Because don't know if I can. Here is the link, will this do? Will I have to buy anything else? http://www.japanmotorimport.co...90-95 Thanks for helping a automotive noob out >_>
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komete
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95 240sx
Baton Rouge LA
5-31-2005
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| « Re: VG30DETT into 1989 240SX (midnightsky) | 11:00 AM 5/3/2007 |
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With the Kit that you will be offering in the summer, will it work for an S14?
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Big-Bird
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2000 Xterra on 'Roids & 2004 Quest SL
Calgary AB
8-3-2006
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| « Re: VG30DETT into 1989 240SX (komete) | 12:50 PM 5/12/2007 |
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Seeing that you folks are so well versed on the VG30DETT. Is there someone in here who might have the dimensional specs on this motor?
Width across the top at the intakes?
Overall Length at the top.
Overall depth intakes to the oil pan.
Estimates are ok but I would prefer 'as close as possible' numbers in inches please.
I am tyring to figure out some clearances for a Hardbody engine 2.4L to VG30DETT conversion. Thanks in advance! 
I wanna be like my 'older' brother when I grow up.... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.nicoclub.com/forums/images/smilies/tongue.gif" BORDER="0">
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MeanGreenS13
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1993 Nissan 240sx
Vero Beach FL
8-20-2005
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| « Re: VG30DETT into 1989 240SX (Big-Bird) | 6:58 PM 5/13/2007 |
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if the VG30E fit in the pathfinder, shouldnt the DETT fit in the 4cyl hardbodies?
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Tarnag40k
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05 Tiburon w/ triptragic.
Goffstown NH
11-23-2006
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| « Re: VG30DETT into 1989 240SX (MeanGreenS13) | 7:09 PM 5/13/2007 |
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uh, no (well not without a huge amount of cutting and custom fab) because the VG30E is significantly thinner then the DE(TT), not only does the DE have those huge dual-cam heads but those Manifolds are a lot wider, and the exhaust manifolds sit out farther because of the heads, just comparing pics can show you that, my Hardbody has a VG30E in it and there isn't that much room left near the fenders. We need the measuremets still.
Modified by Tarnag40k at 7:21 PM 5/13/2007
^wishful thinking
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Big-Bird
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2000 Xterra on 'Roids & 2004 Quest SL
Calgary AB
8-3-2006
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| « Re: VG30DETT into 1989 240SX (MeanGreenS13) | 9:22 PM 5/14/2007 |
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The DETT is wider where it counts, The exhaust manfolds that are piped to the turbos might make the fitment into the narrow confines of a D21 somewhat problematic. The D21 is narrow by comparison to a 300 but how much narrower remains anyones guess. ONly because no-one has posted any specs for comparison purposes. I do know the DETT will fit into a 240 and a 510 with some shoehorning. Saw the images myself so it can be done. But knowing the specific dimensions of the assembled DETT would take some of the guess work out of doing a successful D21 conversion. 
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240sxvaj
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1991 240sx fastback KA-T
bmt ca
12-22-2006
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| « Re: VG30DETT into 1989 240SX (180sxfaktory) | 9:46 AM 5/18/2007 |
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NICE! i like!
KADE! Enthalpy Tuned ECU
I drag 4 fun and Drift 4 ACTION!
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whitetshirtguy
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95 nissan 240
lexington sc
9-20-2006
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| « Re: VG30DETT into 1989 240SX (Big-Bird) | 9:51 PM 5/25/2007 |
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| Quote, originally posted by Big-Bird » | | Seeing that you folks are so well versed on the VG30DETT. Is there someone in here who might have the dimensional specs on this motor?
Width across the top at the intakes?
Overall Length at the top.
Overall depth intakes to the oil pan.
Estimates are ok but I would prefer 'as close as possible' numbers in inches please.
I am tyring to figure out some clearances for a Hardbody engine 2.4L to VG30DETT conversion. Thanks in advance! |
i have a s14 and a d21 and i would like to put a vg30dett in both but no one is saying anything about the kit for the s14 at all and i would like to know something about it and if someone has a idea about putting it in a d21 or has done it i would like to see pics
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soulflyfn69
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1990 240sx hatch
tinton falls nj
5-9-2007
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| « Re: VG30DETT into 1989 240SX (D2180SX) | 10:00 AM 5/26/2007 |
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now all you need is this turbo upgrade http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...sting 760+ hp :-)
  
R.I.P. 1990 Grey Nissan 240sx hatchback daily driver
New toy/forever project 1990 Nissan 240sx hatchback daily driver
1968 Pontiac G.T.O. convertible 500+ hp too many mods to list
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fayceoff
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sneaking up behind you...
3-6-2006
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| « Re: VG30DETT into 1989 240SX (fayceoff) | 5:25 AM 6/1/2007 |
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| Quote, originally posted by fayceoff » | I met with Dale yesterday and gave him the deposit for my Z32 half-cut. I went and looked at the shop, and while they don't have much by way of space and high-tech tools, they are doing big things there. There's an S14 Silvia with a 2JZ-GTE swap and I believe a T70 turbo, a first-gen Supra with a 1JZ-GTE swap, as well as an FD being rebuilt pretty much from the ground up. I'm very impressed with both Dale and the other guys in the garage.
I just received word today that my car has arrived here in Bahrain, but unfortunately I have to go out on a mission in a matter of hours and I won't be able to pick it up for a couple of weeks. I'll keep you guys posted as things get done with my project - I'm calling it the Mayhem FairladySX. Look for a new thread when I get back and take some before pictures as things get rolling. |
Here it is - the beginning. http://forums.nicoclub.com/zerothread?id=254507
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Hughretro
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91 240sx and a 92 240sx(project car)
Trinity nc
4-2-2007
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| « Re: VG30DETT into 1989 240SX (fayceoff) | 10:25 AM 6/1/2007 |
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very nice, what a awsume swap.
Project S13 KA24DET
http://www.myspace.com/hughretro
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Matchbox
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Vacaville CA
6-30-2007
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What ever happen to mass producing this swap kit?
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180sxfaktory
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1989 RS13 180SX 1991 RMS13 240SX 1992 RS13 200SX
Manama
8-3-2006
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| « Re: (Matchbox) | 12:09 PM 7/6/2007 |
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| Quote, originally posted by Matchbox » | | What ever happen to mass producing this swap kit? |
Coming right after FAYCEOFF's debuts for you in August. I think a client who can tell you all of the pluses and minuses of this swap will do a lot for educating the potential clients who do want this.
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180sxfaktory
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1989 RS13 180SX 1991 RMS13 240SX 1992 RS13 200SX
Manama
8-3-2006
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| « Re: (180sxfaktory) | 1:00 PM 7/12/2007 |
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Ok! Here we go! FAYCEOFF's 1998 GCZ32 VG30DETT half cut was unloaded today. Here's a few pics of the the swap. Things are going to start going hard and steady, so sit back and enjoy as I take a 240SX and build one for FAYCEOFF. Again, I am gonna let him do the talking from time to time, but as with all works, once I am focused, I tend to knock people out of the way and will from time to time post up on this to let you guys hear it from me. Once it is done, I will let him make an assessment and post up here the honest feelings of it. If it's cherry, it's cherry. If not, then it's my reputation, but I am always shooting for success. As for what and how and measurements and what comes before this and that... sorry, I am not divulging that. You will have to buy the kit once it debuts after this build.
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Jyon9689
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1991 240sx SE
lexington ky
4-4-2007
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Alright, sweet.Are you sourcing a manual transmission, because from the pics the front-cut Z32 looks like an automatic
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Zee
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99 Chevy Cavalier
Campobello SC
4-6-2007
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| « Re: (180sxfaktory) | 1:33 PM 7/12/2007 |
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Hey I was the one that emailed you about it. Thanks for the update looking forward to it!
-MikeGT: dF OhZee My Dream Car FD3S
 Forced Induction isn't that kind of like RAPE!?!
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Kraelic
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89 240sx
Clintwood VA
9-4-2006
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| « Re: (Jyon9689) | 2:21 PM 7/12/2007 |
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The guy having the swap done is wanting an automatic. check out his link to project mayhem fairlady sxhttp://forums.nicoclub.com/zerothread?id=254507
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180sxfaktory
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1989 RS13 180SX 1991 RMS13 240SX 1992 RS13 200SX
Manama
8-3-2006
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| « Re: (Kraelic) | 2:31 PM 7/12/2007 |
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Yes, FAYCEOFF is gonna do the automatic with paddle shifters. The company that makes it, TWIST MACHINE, has this kit for the 240SX already, so those of you with 1990-1993 automatic KA's, here's the chance to have something not too many people have in their rides. Check them out http://www.twistmachine.com/ It's also good for the Pathfinder.Here's the product page http://www.twistmachine.com/products/shrifter.html
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180sxfaktory
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1989 RS13 180SX 1991 RMS13 240SX 1992 RS13 200SX
Manama
8-3-2006
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| « Re: (180sxfaktory) | 2:38 PM 7/12/2007 |
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Saturday morning, we will be taking the 240SX to a garage near our garage to start stripping out the car and getting it ready. We have a lot of rot to cut out and new metal to weld in before this chassis is even worthy of getting a transplant. Rule of thumb- never ever ever mod a car that is afraid of WD-40.
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fayceoff
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3-6-2006
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| « Re: (180sxfaktory) | 6:39 AM 7/13/2007 |
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Call me so I can go with you to the garage Saturday, Dale. Yay!
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180sxfaktory
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1989 RS13 180SX 1991 RMS13 240SX 1992 RS13 200SX
Manama
8-3-2006
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| « Re: (fayceoff) | 6:58 AM 7/13/2007 |
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I need you to call me at 3940-2301. I have had to get a new phone. Motorola RAZR phones suck! The damn thing had a mind of its own, so I cannot access the phonebook. As far as waiting on you to get here, we will be moving the car from my house to the garage, and I have to get the half cut from Salmabad to the garage.
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180sxfaktory
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1989 RS13 180SX 1991 RMS13 240SX 1992 RS13 200SX
Manama
8-3-2006
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| « Re: (180sxfaktory) | 12:58 PM 7/16/2007 |
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Ok... It's Monday evening here, and I'm beat! I took some pics of the rot happening in FAYCEOFF's 240SX that must be taken care of before we even start doing prep work to put that VG30DETT into its new home. Take a look at these pics. Some of you, and you know who you are, have it a lot worse off than this. Fred Flinstone kick-starts and e-brakes won't work. Ok, I'll shut up and show the picsThis is the driver side rail on the inside.
 This is still the driver side rail just where the rail kicks up to meet the main rail.
 Driver side inside the front wheel well.
 Floor rot. Looks like an unclean gash that is festering. I was able to punch through with a screwdriver.
 Me with my hand stuck in the rotted rail. Good thing my tetanus shot is still good.
 My partner, Shakr holding a rot chip. Yes, I would like Pepsi, chicken shawarma and rot chips, please.
 We were able to get a lot of work done today, and here's the result.
 jk! This is one of the Supra's we did for one of the local clients. A 1994 USDM Supra that was originally an NA. Now holds a stock 2JZGTE with manual gear. Her name is "Sexy Time". Buttloads of hot gash, I mean hot cash has gone into this machine. It's nice to have clients who appreciate the finer things in life.
 Nice rear!
 Work Emotion wheels 18x10 wrapped with Pirelli P Zero rubber. Just silky sexy!
 My friend and patron, Lawrence.
 Next up... Garrett single turbo. We're working with Garrett to match the new single snail that will go into this ride.
 Crew next door... The BMW Bros steady jackin' an E30 from Japan's slumped foreign car market
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fayceoff
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sneaking up behind you...
3-6-2006
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| « Re: (180sxfaktory) | 1:07 PM 7/16/2007 |
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| Quote, originally posted by 180sxfaktory » | | Yes, I would like Pepsi, chicken shawarma and rot chips, please. |
hahaha. yeah, yeah, yeah... I already told everyone that my car was a beater for the moment. Did you wash your hands, Dale? I'm glad I'm having that rot repaired here instead of in the States. It's going to cost 180 Bahraini Dinar, which is about $475-480. Quick, someone who does metal/bodywork in the US tell me how much this would cost there. Oh, and that Supra is so sick it makes my stomach hurt. It's cars like that, that make me realize that I'm a bit of a hater. Ah well.
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180sxfaktory
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1989 RS13 180SX 1991 RMS13 240SX 1992 RS13 200SX
Manama
8-3-2006
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| « Re: (fayceoff) | 1:37 PM 7/16/2007 |
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Wash my hands? Man... my hands stay dirty! Hahaha! Yeah, I did  Just to let you know, that rot will be surgically removed minimum 4 inches in front and rear of the undamaged metal, floorboard will be removed and new metal floorpan welded in and the areas primed, painted and undercoated. To facilitate this work, we will be doing two things almost at once- removing that KA and assorted items while the artisans start doing their thing with the surgery to take care of the rot. I'll be bringing the halfcut to the subcontractor's place since we don't have any room at the shop right now. No worries... all in good hands. Good value for the money. Stateside... I have no idea what someone would even charge. Yes, Lawrence's Supra is plenty nice! We did work on it last night with replacing some light relays and hooked up the aircon and did some wire clean-up. The seats in Sexy Time have to go! I hate them. Lawrence will probably be opting for some BRIDE seats, since he's so JDM.
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dexterous
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1991 240sx
Sacramento CA
7-16-2007
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that's some good work.
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180sxfaktory
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1989 RS13 180SX 1991 RMS13 240SX 1992 RS13 200SX
Manama
8-3-2006
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| « Re: (dexterous) | 1:10 PM 7/17/2007 |
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Thanks!
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Kraayl
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89 240 coupe!
Sacramento CA
6-12-2005
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I cant wait till this kit comes out, ive had a engine waiting now i finally get to put it in. Hopefully this doesnt completely break the bank.
89 240sx! stock drivetrain. Battleversion suspension, whiteline sway bars, agx/sportline, tein tie rods, nismo powerbrace. s15 seats.
Working on my 5spd swap w/lsd! Then paint!
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