somebody that did it with a rx7

part of the less than 1% protecting our freedoms

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incorrect!!! it doesnt make it easyer if the car your importing has a US counter part.

Since no one seems to have the correct answers, or wishes to share with the Admin staff to prove they can do it, let's not talk about it anymore.

So many people out there claim that they can get them state legal. That DOES NOT make them federally legal, and it still poses the possiblilty that it could get impounded, crushed, etc.

Turtle, Celm.

If you guys have some insider info on how to do it and get it done right, by all means, contact Greg and I, and let us in on what's up. We won't leak your info to anyone else that you haven't already given it too. We just want to make sure you guys aren't trying to scam people out of several thousand dollars, or worse yet, sell someone a car they can't drive on the street. If we like what we see, maybe we can set something up just for our NICO brethren.

I just don't want people getting bad info, or no info at all on what they are getting into.

Motor Vehicle Titling and Registration(this is from the DOT web site)

NHTSA is not responsible for regulating the operation of motor vehicles on public roads in the U.S. or for titling or registering motor vehicles for such operation. That is instead the responsibility of the individual States. Some States may require a manufacturer's certificate of origin (MCO) or manufacturer's statement of origin (MSO) to register a new motor vehicle. These are not federally required documents. NHTSA, therefore, is not in a position to offer guidance to prospective vehicle manufacturers or vehicle purchasers on obtaining a needed MCO or MSO. Consumers with questions regarding these documents should direct those questions to their State’s Department of Motor Vehicles (DMV).

the second part is that i do have to get the car inspected by a DMV official who only deals with cars from overseas

Modified by celm at 10:04 PM 3/25/2007

Modified by celm at 10:10 PM 3/25/2007

you never imported a car,so what grounds do you have.and i dont want to hear the " i read it on the internet "

not to be rude but you are clueless and i do have a 95 GTR33 for sale.titled and state side

It MOST CERTAINLY does.

I'll not be doing your research for you, but it's all in the links I provided...

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...and it's STILL not Federalized.

He's not clueless, he was right on the money.

oh really,you bring a JDM car that has a US counter part and see what happens when when it hits port.
and what cars have you brought over??

Watch your tone with me, Son - I'm not one of your JDM nutswinging friends.

1988 Z31 is a perfect example - It'll roll right through (VSA‑81 Eligibility).

Eliminates the need for crash-testing and such.

And "seeing" a car that's been imported means nothing to me. Seeing Federalization docs would impress me.

p.s. It's Birkmire. Doctor Birkmire, to you.

i always call him Rex when i see him

I'm not interested in the offshore disassembly cars that are coming in through Orlando, I've seen them often. Good friend of mine in Orlando used to do some reassembly of them. They're illegal, no matter how you slice it.

you wrote 1988 up top there buddy,and i dont take my cars apart

Frank, I don't care WHAT you do with them, they're not Federally legal. THat's ALL I'm saying.

There's a hundred other guys telling people the SAME thing you are - it's nothing new, it's nothing unique - Hell, there's a guy here in AZ doing the same gig.

They are NOT cars that one can drive around without being nervous. Period.

Here, check this thread.

http://forums.nicoclub.com/zerothread/234745

He has pictures of all his documents that would be included with a legal Skyline. He is selling it, so you might want to contact him.

Laters,
-Neal

Would these two documents be the only documents all one would need? (Sorry about the newbie question.) These two documents are all the seller has, having posted replies by administrators of the forum supporting and seemingly confirming it's authenticity (turned into a sticky).

hey azhitman, i got a R32 GTS-T already here in the states but its probably gonna sell fast... its gun metal and its clean. hit me up and ill give you the price california registered

99% of the time "State Titled" and "State Registered" translates to "Illegally imported and titled as kit car, despite the fact that the NHTSA flat out lists the Skyline as *not* a kit car."

I'm implying that your wrong,99% of these cars are titled for what they are.No "assembled from parts" or "rebuild" for forum educated people there terminology is "KIT CAR". i would take one of my state titled cars over a MX car any day.at least i didn't have to fraud the govt saying my car was modded to comply but it wasn't.i take my cars to the state DOT office and the inspector who only deals with cars from overseas does his inspection and if it passes,its titled. And yes they know what these cars are!!

oh and my favorit little phrase from the NHTSA

NHTSA is not responsible for regulating the operation of motor vehicles on public roads in the U.S. or for titling or registering motor vehicles for such operation. That is instead the responsibility of the individual States. Some States may require a manufacturer's certificate of origin (MCO) or manufacturer's statement of origin (MSO) to register a new motor vehicle.

Get in an accident with one and see what happens. Make an insurance claim and see what happens. Hit someone with a good attorney and see what happens.

Florida is one of the MOST lenient states for titling imported cars, their inspectors SUCK and everyone knows it... Trust me, if and when I pick up an R32, it'll come from Florida.

That last phrase just means it's up to the States to title and register vehicles. It doesn't state that the Feds give up their right to impound a non-Federalized vehicle.

I LOL at everyone acting like this is some big "secret". Finding a moron at the DMV doesn't make you a Registered Importer. Just means you pulled one over on "The Man".

again your chaging the subject... i wasnt talking about federal B.S. i was talking about someone assuming just because a car was titled by a state then it was titled as forums lingo Kit Car.and what you talking about man,you state is a million times easyer then mine!!!.the guy i know in your state doent even need the car there. The FDOT wont even look at my car unless my paperwork is in order and approved.and again i see you dont like to read before posting.These guys know what these cars are...there only job with teh state has to deal with inspecting and approving non-us cars!!

Does it even bother you one bit that you are selling cars to people that aren't even legal? I don't care what you say, "Oh, it's state legal and here is what the NHTSA says..." blah, blah, blah.

You are getting money from someone who is trusting you to get a car that they want. If they are like, "I don't care if it's not 'Legal', just get me one", dosen't it get on your conscience just a little bit?

I couldn't do that to someone, you know, take thousands of dollars and say, "here ya go, pal, best of luck", which, in a sense, is what you are doing.

I guess if you are ok with it, who am I to argue with you.

No, I'm keeping the discussion RELEVANT.

My reading skills are just fine, and I communicate VERY clearly in writing.

I'm a little more educated on this topic than you're aware of, and I'm taking responsibility for making sure none of our "less educated" members get screwed.

My state is NOT "a million times easier" to register a non-Federalized imported vehicle - You have NO idea what you're talking about, Frank.

p.s. So far, every guy in AZ doing this stuff has been laughed out of town, and the current one is well on his way to being shut down.

http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/....html

Skylines, sadly, do NOT meet that criteria.

And here's the complete list of eligible non-conforming vehicles ("By or through a Registered Importer")
http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/...b.htm
Scroll down to NISSAN and it lists ONLY the 96-99 R33 models.

And since you hate the term "kit car" (But I bet you have no problem calling that thing that holds the bullets in a gun a "clip", despite it being just as "wrong"), how about your FL definition of "Custom built"

Because, unless you have a fully certified NHTSA-approved converted R33, how else do you title and register a Skyline, but their annoyingly ambiguous "custom body kit on a vehicle" registration?

Really? Interesting. Not what I hear from those who know you in Orlando...

Even if they're NOT disassembled, then they're coming through Customs on FALSE pretenses (track / show use only). So, they're here illegally.

"Custom Built"means the rules are being circumvented as well. To qualify, the car may NEVER have been mass-produced for purchase. That eliminates the Skyline from eligibility.

Again, for the 99th time:

I can afford a nice Skyline. I can write it off as a "business expense". I have law enforcement connections, and DMV connections. I can afford to put a stated-value policy on it.

I don't like the idea of having to look over my shoulder all the time....

my titles are all clean and clear.they dont mention ASPT,rebuild,salvage or what ever terms are used. They tell the correct vin,make and even previous title state.and in that box it say "OS" for over seas

We all know FL is horribly lax about checking if a car has been imported and converted properly.

What we're saying is this: Per NHSTA, the only cars that have been legally converted and thus are federally approved to be here and on the roads are the Motorex cars. Sad, but true.

Anyone can get a title on a car, especially in Florida.

come here and try it,and when you cant get it done.i will be happy to charge you a stupid amount to get it done

i done it many time and i enjoy it everytime

Modified by celm at 6:17 PM 4/7/2007