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ncr33gtr

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| « Re: (C33LaurelRacer) | 9:25 PM 11/20/2006 |
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mmk, ive been reading this entire thread, and from what i understand....motorex, fast4wheels, evo.imports, and turbovisions(which ive never heard of) are frauds... and rb just wont put up with the hassle or importing skylines anymore?.... my question is, how do you import a 95(also to my understanding this year is no longer importable period???) through 98 r33? but heres the catch... w/out forking over my entire savings, and not worrying if the dmv/dot/fmvss guys are just that stupid to just sign away on any piece of paper i hand them (e.i. a TOTALLY LEGAL CAR), not having the car possibly turn out to be nothing more than scraps that were thrown together as a "kit" car, and not dealing with any other afore mentioned frauds that i may have forgotten to list...
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DuaneG
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| « Re: (ncr33gtr) | 5:08 AM 11/21/2006 |
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Here's the short sweet version.Mortorex legalized about 150 of them I think. (I might be wrong, by alot or a little) Buy one of those or prepare to shell out over 50grand + shipping + the car + whatever else one or more of the 200 people that are involved in it want to charge you.
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ncr33gtr

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| « Re: (DJPhrost) | 2:22 PM 11/21/2006 |
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i already know that motorex legalized a few of them, but they did it illegally because they tried to pass r33 crash test results as the r32 and 34 results as well.i know it sounds like im contradicting myself with that remark, but the fact is motorex might have gave the impression of being legal, essentially what they did was illegal, no matter your stand point. | Quote, originally posted by DJPhrost » | | ...prepare to shell out over 50grand + shipping + the car + whatever else one or more of the 200 people that are involved in it want to charge you. |
as long as im not paying 70k+ for an r33 gtr im not worried about that part, im just wondering how effing legal the person(s) are, and who can do it without pitching a b***h fit
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| « Re: (ncr33gtr) | 2:31 PM 11/21/2006 |
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| Quote, originally posted by ncr33gtr » | my question is, how do you import a 95(also to my understanding this year is no longer importable period???) through 98 r33? but heres the catch... w/out forking over my entire savings, and not worrying if the dmv/dot/fmvss guys are just that stupid to just sign away on any piece of paper i hand them (e.i. a TOTALLY LEGAL CAR), not having the car possibly turn out to be nothing more than scraps that were thrown together as a "kit" car, and not dealing with any other afore mentioned frauds that i may have forgotten to list... |
The quick answer? You can't.
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ncr33gtr

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| « Re: (AZhitman) | 5:18 PM 11/21/2006 |
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wow, that answer was so much easier than DJ's... why doesnt the DOT and FMVSS just give up on trying to restrict the flow of skylines into america though? cause eventually they'll be flooding the states...even if it isnt untill 2030...half the people that want one wont give a damn how old they are when the 25 year limit thing is finally reached. mainly because the older skylines (for the year 2030, hence our current skylines) will be so much better than the new "skyline" their coming out with on just about every level. and hell the japanese model will be better than the american model anyways. so yeh thats just my input on the idea. granted the fmvss and dot will more than likly have things changed later on so that r32-r34's wont be allowed in period, but with the money they could make off them i dont understand why they dont just start importing them by the ship load...
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celm
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| « Re: (ncr33gtr) | 5:25 PM 11/21/2006 |
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FYI the FMVSS is not a government agency
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AZhitman
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Blame the left.Attorneys, hand-wringers, ambulance-chasers and environmentalists are to blame.
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ncr33gtr

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| « Re: (celm) | 6:44 PM 11/21/2006 |
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no kiddin? i woulda never known! FYI their still part of the problem.
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ncr33gtr

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| « Re: (AZhitman) | 6:47 PM 11/21/2006 |
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eh, im so tired of the bs reasons that im tempted to just import one as a show/racer and deal with the milage limit.rather have 1 and be only able drive it occasionally(which would more than likly be the case anyways) then not have one at all.
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Count Zero

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| « Re: (C33LaurelRacer) | 10:01 PM 11/23/2006 |
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| Quote, originally posted by C33LaurelRacer » | | Can you provide proof that the V35 350GT Skyline comes with AWD here in Japan, because to the best of my knowledge, there is no all wheel drive version of the Skyline currently being built/sold. |
Dunno about over there, but the G35x has been out for a couple years now...it has AWD.
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| « Re: (Count Zero) | 5:28 AM 11/24/2006 |
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| Quote, originally posted by Count Zero » | Dunno about over there, but the G35x has been out for a couple years now...it has AWD. |
Well, slap my face and call me Susan. I was not aware of that. I know a fare share about the car, but not as much as I would like. Plus, there are people out there that know things I don't, and vice versa.[ Thanks Count.
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Count Zero

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| « Re: (C33LaurelRacer) | 11:12 AM 11/24/2006 |
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No problem... I remember first seeing a billboard for the G35x back in late 2003, just after I got home from Iraq. Have seen G35x's on the road around here quite a bit. Sadly, it's only in a 4-door flavor.They're playing a TV commercial a lot lately that's all about the "brand new electronic AWD" in the "New G" I always giggle at that one and go "Gee, it sounds like an updated version of the ATTESA-ETS....didn't know that 17+ years was new."
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| « Re: (C33LaurelRacer) | 3:42 PM 11/24/2006 |
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| Quote, originally posted by C33LaurelRacer » | Well, slap my face and call me Susan. |
Susan.
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grosspolluter
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| « Re: (AZhitman) | 7:46 PM 11/27/2006 |
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| Quote, originally posted by AZhitman » | | If they are an RI, approved to import and legalize Skylines, and are in compliance with all NHTSA guidelines, then you're set. |
There are states that will register them, like Florida....
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Count Zero

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| « Re: (grosspolluter) | 9:24 PM 11/27/2006 |
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| Quote, originally posted by grosspolluter » | | There are states that will register them, like Florida.... |
Just because I don't know.... What would happen if a car gets registered somewhere easy, like FL, but then gets found to not be "legalized" to NHTSA/DOT emissions and safety standards?I mean, it's registered, so would it just be a legal-to-have car with tons of equipment/safety violations? Or could the car still be impounded (and the owner charged with fraudulant registration)? Don't all states now require proof of insurance to register a car? And as I've found out, every insurance company I've talked to required me to officially declare the car converted to NHTSA regs to be able to cover it as a drivable car.
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Correct.Some states don't have mandatory insurance, but like I said 4 pages back: Get in an accident with one and see how fast the attorneys throw you under the bus. Cars that appear "legal" (to a state) can be impounded by the Feds. Likely, no. Possible, yes.
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Count Zero

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1990 Skyline GT-R, Federal Legal & fully registered.
St. Louis MO
11-23-2006
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| « Re: (AZhitman) | 9:44 PM 11/27/2006 |
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| Quote, originally posted by AZhitman » | | Correct. Some states don't have mandatory insurance, but like I said 4 pages back: Get in an accident with one and see how fast the attorneys throw you under the bus. Cars that appear "legal" (to a state) can be impounded by the Feds. Likely, no. Possible, yes. |
I caught the bit about lawyers, but wasn't sure if that just meant insurance/civil suits or criminal law as well.It'd be falsifying government documents, if you're state requires inspections or has something about having insurance constituting that the car is NHTSA-approved, so I'd assume that it'd be illegal. But then, that's why I decided to pass on a cheaper R32 in lieu of chancing across an actual Motorex-modified ones (which I was lucky enough to find). Something about the phrase "State registered" makes me leary when I don't see any supporting proof/documentation of the NHTSA/DOT approval....or even the phrase "50-state legal" along with it.
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skygame
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| « Re: (grosspolluter) | 8:25 AM 11/28/2006 |
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| Quote, originally posted by grosspolluter » | | There are states that will register them, like Florida.... |
Really? Anybody in Cali registering Nissan Skyline GTR's? Really interested!
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| « Re: (skygame) | 5:10 PM 11/28/2006 |
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| Quote, originally posted by skygame » | Really? Anybody in Cali registering Nissan Skyline GTR's? Really interested! |
Please don't post the same exact thing in two different threads. We all read each thread that has a new post in it. No need to double up on here.
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| « Re: So you want to buy a Skyline in the US.... (sean8564) | 8:38 AM 11/30/2006 |
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| Quote, originally posted by sean8564 » | | Dude do not worry about it I am just a fountian of JDM knowlage since i buy and sell cars there. |
Wow..... that is great, any loopholes on registering a BNCR34 GTR?
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celm
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| « Re: So you want to buy a Skyline in the US.... (skygame) | 8:40 AM 11/30/2006 |
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| Quote, originally posted by skygame » | Wow..... that is great, any loopholes on registering a BNCR34 GTR? |
ive titled 4 GTR34 so far and its BNR34 not BNCR34
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| « Re: So you want to buy a Skyline in the US.... (celm) | 9:52 AM 11/30/2006 |
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| Quote, originally posted by celm » | | ive titled 4 GTR34 so far,and its BNR34 not BNCR34 |
Florida, we need California titles, any info would be greatly appreciated, cars are here in CA, we are ready to go, cash in hand.....
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| « Re: So you want to buy a Skyline in the US.... (skygame) | 11:08 AM 11/30/2006 |
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skygame u have email
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grosspolluter
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| « Re: So you want to buy a Skyline in the US.... (celm) | 11:35 AM 11/30/2006 |
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| Quote, originally posted by skygame » | | Florida, we need California titles, any info would be greatly appreciated, cars are here in CA, we are ready to go, cash in hand..... |
| Quote, originally posted by celm » | | skygame u have email |
Same here, bump for more info.... need to title R34's in Cali......
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| « Re: So you want to buy a Skyline in the US.... (grosspolluter) | 1:59 PM 11/30/2006 |
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| Quote, originally posted by grosspolluter » | Same here, bump for more info.... need to title R34's in Cali...... | you have email
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| « Re: (AZhitman) | 6:14 PM 11/30/2006 |
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I am sorry if this has been posted before but I am to lazy to go through and read all of the forums on this site. So let me se if I am correct on this. If you own a skyline that is for track or show only and get it titled, is the car legal then. I know a guy that titles Skylines and he does all the paper work on them and takes it to a DMV and goes through some kind of inspection, but basically if the car is in good running shape and has no exhaust problems and nothing wrong with the SRS the car passes and you get a title. He says it takes one hour or more to do this. So what I am trying to say after all of that, is the car legal and can I drive it with out getting in trouble with the law?
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celm
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| « Re: (89 GTR R32) | 6:24 PM 11/30/2006 |
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this is what teh DOT says about titlinghttp://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/...63420 6. Motor Vehicle Titling and Registration NHTSA is not responsible for regulating the operation of motor vehicles on public roads in the U.S. or for titling or registering motor vehicles for such operation. That is instead the responsibility of the individual States. Some States may require a manufacturer's certificate of origin (MCO) or manufacturer's statement of origin (MSO) to register a new motor vehicle. These are not federally required documents. NHTSA, therefore, is not in a position to offer guidance to prospective vehicle manufacturers or vehicle purchasers on obtaining a needed MCO or MSO. Consumers with questions regarding these documents should direct those questions to their State’s Department of Motor Vehicles (DMV). Prospective manufacturers seeking guidance on obtaining MCO or MSO documents should contact the American Association of Motor Vehicle Administrators (AAMVA) at 703-522-4201 or visit that organization's website at http://www.aamva.org.
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| « Re: So you want to buy a Skyline in the US.... (celm) | 1:21 PM 12/4/2006 |
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| Quote, originally posted by celm » | | skygame u have email |
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AZhitman
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| « Re: (89 GTR R32) | 1:29 PM 12/4/2006 |
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| Quote, originally posted by 89 GTR R32 » | I am sorry if this has been posted before but I am to lazy to go through and read all of the forums on this site. So let me se if I am correct on this. If you own a skyline that is for track or show only and get it titled, is the car legal then. I know a guy that titles Skylines and he does all the paper work on them and takes it to a DMV and goes through some kind of inspection, but basically if the car is in good running shape and has no exhaust problems and nothing wrong with the SRS the car passes and you get a title. He says it takes one hour or more to do this. So what I am trying to say after all of that, is the car legal and can I drive it with out getting in trouble with the law? |
Sorry, we don't do "lazy". Everything you want to know was answered on page 1. Thanks! 
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Count Zero

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| « Re: (AZhitman) | 3:56 PM 12/4/2006 |
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| Quote, originally posted by AZhitman » | Sorry, we don't do "lazy".
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You're my hero.
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| « Re: (Count Zero) | 6:14 PM 12/4/2006 |
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People, If you don't take the time to do the research on this car, and find out what it's going to take and how much money you are going to spend, you are going to be in a world of dissapointment. Most people want thier answers given to them, handed to them on a silver plate, if you will. I'm sorry, but if you are going to buy a GT-R, you should spend time learning about the car and what it's going to take to even get to the shipping yards if you are going to import it. Things like de-registering a car, paying the taxes that are involved, makeing sure the Sha-ken was done right, and who knows what else. I have been over here for years and have tried learning as much as I can, and I am always finding out more and more things I didn't know. It blows me away how much bad info is out there on the GT-R. Most people that want these cars are people like, "Man, I was playing GT4 and I saw this car called the Skyline, and I have to get me one." There are people out there that have found it through other means, and hopefully, those are people that have done the time to research. All in all, what I am trying to say, study up, make sure you have all the information you are gonna need, and have some serious coin ready to roll when it's needed.
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Count Zero

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+1I've dreamed of getting a GT-R for about 5 years now, and been seriously in the market searching out options for the last 6 months. It's truly a PITA, even with Canada getting them all nice and legal now (well, the 89-91's anyway) I spent many hours thinking of ideas and then researching how viable they were. I also learned what pitfalls to look out for along the way. I feel much better having sorted the stuff of for myself. I ACTUALLY LEARNED SOMETHING. (For example: I work for a company that's actually in Toronto. I even looked into having THEM buy one up there and assign it to me as a company car...no good, and I thought that'd be my best route) Point is....DO YOUR HOMEWORK! Expecting to have everyone spoon-feed you the simplest of answers just makes you look like a fool that doesn't deserve a Skyline in the first place. Having spent the time and brain-power finding out things makes me appreciate being able to finally get one all the more.
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99.9% of the people in the US who post "I'm looking for a Skyline" on a car forum have neither the financial means or connections to obtain one anyway.It's frustrating, as we're committed to: 1) Helping out n00bs 2) Providing accurate information With that said, anyone who's "in the market" would be wise to simply re-read this thread. 
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Count Zero

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Plus, it makes it hard on us that *ARE* seriously in the market, cuz most people won't take us seriously. 
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| « Re: (Count Zero) | 1:25 PM 12/7/2006 |
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| Quote, originally posted by Count Zero » | | Plus, it makes it hard on us that *ARE* seriously in the market, cuz most people won't take us seriously. |
Very true.....
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| « Re: (Count Zero) | 1:42 PM 12/7/2006 |
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| Quote, originally posted by Count Zero » | Don't all states now require proof of insurance to register a car? And as I've found out, every insurance company I've talked to required me to officially declare the car converted to NHTSA regs to be able to cover it as a drivable car. |
From what I was told by the previous owner of a Toyota Soarer and a friend with a STATE LEGAL Skyline, Progessive will insure anything as long as it has a VIN, whether it be 10 letters long (Japanese) or 36.
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Count Zero

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| « Re: (DuaneG) | 4:25 PM 12/7/2006 |
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| Quote, originally posted by DuaneG » | | From what I was told by the previous owner of a Toyota Soarer and a friend with a STATE LEGAL Skyline, Progessive will insure anything as long as it has a VIN, whether it be 10 letters long (Japanese) or 36. |
Yes...I guess I should have worded that better.While getting the quotes from various companies, every one of them (including Progressive) officially asked me the question of "Has the vehicle been modified to NHTSA standards and been officially approved by the DOT?" Thus, by saying "yes", if you ever have an accident and they find out that you willfully gave a false statement about that DOT approval, you could be cited for insurance fraud.
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| « Re: (Count Zero) | 10:58 PM 12/12/2006 |
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so lets get down to the basic's if i find a RI and he can import a r32skyline can i get it as a showcar/track car thats all i want to know its a yes or no? i've been getting mixed answer's
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| « Re: (preston240sx) | 8:46 AM 12/13/2006 |
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It may be much easier to import a skyline from U.K than from Japan./ there are plenty of people in Europe that are sending them here and you can have the car in 5-6 weeks verse 16-18 weeks all of you are right ... The people that truly want a skyline and have $$$$$ out the *** will get one regardless of legality or cost.
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| « Re: (R-33KING) | 10:53 AM 12/13/2006 |
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| Quote, originally posted by R-33KING » | | It may be much easier to import a skyline from U.K than from Japan./ there are plenty of people in Europe that are sending them here and you can have the car in 5-6 weeks verse 16-18 weeks. |
It only takes 21 days port-to-port from Japan to the US. Where are you getting 16-18 weeks?
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