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DriftThatS13
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91' Nissan S13 Silvia
Montclair ca
8-8-2008
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| « Re: welded differential.. (jnay) | 1:56 AM 12/13/2008 |
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do wat i do if you are mechanically incline and have enough patients. Welded diff on streets is a horrible idea its loud and you will be curping every turn. A good idea is go to a junk yard and buy a diff. for cheap and weld that one and every event that you go to or meet just swap them out. It will save the life of your tires and the welded diff trust me!!! you nedd to safe money now a days you kno .
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n00d1ek1ng
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1996 240sx
san jose CA
10-22-2008
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| « Re: welded differential.. (DriftThatS13) | 2:55 AM 2/17/2009 |
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get welded if you wanna drift.
get a real lsd if you wanna do anything else...or if you have money..
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.humblexone.
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hopefully a 91' 240sx coupe.
sac ca
3-4-2009
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im close to purchasing a 240 with a welded diff, the only thing is iam a first time driver and still learning.
was wondering if their is anyway to unwelding it?
or would i have to just buy a new diff all together?
any help would be appriciated
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zeause
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418 posts
92 240sx 04 350z
Fort Smith Ar.
1-7-2008
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| « Re: (.humblexone.) | 8:02 PM 3/5/2009 |
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you cant just unweld stuff. sorry buddy. you can find these rearends cheap as s*** tho. you can get 1 out of a s13 or s14 no matter what yours is and yous your dif cover on it.
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SLiguykyle
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1993 S13 hatch.
My Room CA
11-8-2008
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so i have an open diff in my S14 right now. i have a VLSD out of an S13 with 8Kmiles on it that i got for free. what should i do? weld or install VLSD? (i plan on drifting alot, but it also has to be my DD for now)or should i buy a KAAZ 2-way? O.o
1996 240SX Zenki S14 - SOLD!
1993 240SX S13 - DD track car?! :]
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zeause
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92 240sx 04 350z
Fort Smith Ar.
1-7-2008
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| « Re: (SLiguykyle) | 12:27 AM 3/11/2009 |
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ive heard when you drift a vlsd will get hot and quit working. a 2 way is pretty much the same as a welded diff. if you plan on drifting a lot but want to daily drive it 1.5 would probly be the way to go imo. there is a lot of ppl that daily welded diff cars tho.
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RustspecS13
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Maxima and 240sx both 1990/SE/5speed
columbus ohio
9-8-2007
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| « Re: (zeause) | 10:52 AM 4/5/2009 |
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Two of my friends have s13 with welded diffs. They drive them year round in ohio weather. No issues what so ever. When I drive my friends s13 I dont even notice the diff. If you have quick reactions and skill theres no issues. I have a kaaz 2way I picked up for $650 two years ago. Its awesome if you have the money. Little DD tire wear, and instant lock up any time you need it. I have almost 30K miles on my kaaz and its still awesome. Although if the VLSD has 8k on it and not 80K, Id probably use it. As long as your not making 250+WHP it'll be hard to over heat a FRESH VLSD like that. However anything over 50K miles I wouldn't touch, just go welded or kaaz.
Elblanco- Rust spec s13- RB20DET ran/blown/rebuild->rinse/repeat- the daily driver/drifter
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Joe
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single cam s14
Tucson, AZ
2-9-2003
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| « Re: (zeause) | 2:09 PM 4/6/2009 |
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| Quote, originally posted by zeause » | | ive heard when you drift a vlsd will get hot and quit working. a 2 way is pretty much the same as a welded diff. if you plan on drifting a lot but want to daily drive it 1.5 would probly be the way to go imo. there is a lot of ppl that daily welded diff cars tho. |
LOL a 2 way is NOT the same as a welded diff.
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BuLLeTdrift
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91 240sx fast baq
SacramentO Ca
2-8-2004
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I'm shocked that this thread is still popping up every other year. haha. I just wanted to throw this in the mix. My G/F has a welded diff in her S14 and daily drives that to work everyday, shopping on weekends, ect ect (along with fence pipes lol). She can handle it, ITS NOT THAT BIG OF A DEAL. Welded diffs do not eat up tires as bad as people who paid 100's of dollars on clutch types say they do. If you are going to get into drifting and are contemplating getting a vLSD or a welded, just get the freakin diff welded and do it now. Summer time is coming up and you will have plenty of time to learn how to drive it before the winter comes. My girl has driven on the welded all winter long in the rain and if she can handle it, most of you can. I say most cuz i well damn, i see people crash and wonder how they got a drivers license. Man up and do it, or build your show car. Edit: In case you're wondering about performance while drifting, its just as good as an expensive 2-way. Most predictable way to set up your car. I probably wont every get a clutch type unless I get sponsored by a company and they give me one for free.
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6bolt4g63
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1990 S13
Rockville MD
2-7-2006
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| « Re: welded differential.. | 8:15 AM 4/30/2009 |
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I just had a quick Q, is there a difference between welding an open diff and a VLSD?? Im on a decent budget so i am going to try the welded diff first and see how it goes.
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zeause
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418 posts
92 240sx 04 350z
Fort Smith Ar.
1-7-2008
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| « Re: welded differential.. (6bolt4g63) | 3:38 AM 5/1/2009 |
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Nope youll get the same outcome. But if your talking for a fwd or awd(judging by 4g63) differential idk.edit: nvmd i read under your name. lol
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Sturge
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s13 sil80 with rb25
Plymouth Devon
2-12-2009
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This is my diff just after welding! works a treat but scrubs like mad when trying to park!
RB25 SIL80 with welded diff. soon to be running megasquirt, all help and info greatly appreciated!
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AZ89two4Tsx
Learned'd Waterhead
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of turtletastic gold
Scottsdale AZ
3-8-2008
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Ok, this is probably a gay bump to some of you guys but whatever...How long does it take to drop the diff and put a new one in? I'm contemplating just buying a separate diff (welded) and only putting it in when I want to do an event. So yeah, how long would it take to change it? I will have access to an impact gun which I'm sure helps. Thanks.
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RustspecS13
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315 posts
Maxima and 240sx both 1990/SE/5speed
columbus ohio
9-8-2007
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| « Re: (AZ89two4Tsx) | 7:11 AM 6/23/2009 |
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Depending on the condition of the car, any where from 45min to 2 hours.its really not that bad, Ive done like 5 diff installs/removes. ~Alex
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NismoZRS
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92 S13 Coupe
brunswick me
4-16-2009
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| « Re: (RustspecS13) | 5:04 PM 7/7/2009 |
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how hard and time consuming is it to swap differentials?? ive never had to work on one before..i'd buying another differential soon and having it welded but i only want it on my car when i'm learning to drift..
And the repairs never end.... >_>
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w0nderbr3ad
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101 posts
San Diego CA
3-28-2004
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| « Re: (NismoZRS) | 1:25 AM 7/14/2009 |
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When I installed my welded diff it took me just about 2hrs to do it myself with a hydraulic jack and a 100pc tool set. Welded diff gets pretty heavy to lift into place so be careful or have a friend help out too. I've daily driven on my welded for a good year now and tire life is a bit shorter on softer tires and is decent for daily use. drifting on a welded is so much easier to learn on at a track day. After 2 track days my initiations have started a bit earlier than the first.
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Rlmoore88
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1996 Nissan 240sx
Medford OR
7-28-2009
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| « Re: welded differential.. (jnay) | 11:39 AM 7/28/2009 |
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Any shops to do this in the Southern OR area?
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benarovi561
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1992 nissan 240sx hatchback
boca raton Florida
6-30-2009
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| « Re: welded differential.. (Rlmoore88) | 5:38 PM 7/28/2009 |
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anybody want to tell me why its harder to park?
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Joe
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single cam s14
Tucson, AZ
2-9-2003
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| « Re: welded differential.. (benarovi561) | 7:24 PM 7/28/2009 |
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| Quote, originally posted by benarovi561 » | | anybody want to tell me why its harder to park? |
when you take a corner, the inside wheel travels a shorter distance. hence the need for a differential. with it welded they will always want to go straight. its also why they understeer more in corners while drifting/on track.
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AZ89two4Tsx
Learned'd Waterhead
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of turtletastic gold
Scottsdale AZ
3-8-2008
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Whoever is on the fence about one of these, just get one. Quit your b****ing.Got mine today. Yeah the tires make noise at turns under 15mph but it's not a big deal. Much better than paying $600+ for a clutch type if you can't swing that kind of money. Do it.
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TerminalVelocity
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1995 Zenki S14
Las Vegas Nv
2-4-2007
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^what he said.
Drifting is so much more predictable than with a vlsd.
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916drifter
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1990 240sx Fastback
Sacramento, Cali
8-4-2003
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| « Re: (TerminalVelocity) | 3:10 PM 8/17/2009 |
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Seriously, if you do this as a weekend thing, or occasionally, or trying to penny pinch, which most of us do, just get it welded. There is little difference between welded and clutch. I street drove a welded, its fine, tires chirp but that's the sacrifice. I dd my 2way, yes i paid out the a55 for it, but I had the money at the time and I did not know anyone who welded at the time. Now if you want to do this professionally, get a 2 way or 1.5 way. on a side not, i have yet to see a blown welded diff. 2 of my friends have been drifting on them for 2+ years and like one diff fluid change. lol. They're still killing it.
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evolve S13
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s13
Ft. Wayne IN
11-24-2008
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Welded diff FTW, Neukin.com , not a big deal just do it who cares
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rudeboy
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cars
buffalo,n.y.
9-10-2002
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| « Re: (evolve S13) | 7:20 PM 9/17/2009 |
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i've had the same welded in 5 240's in 8 years. almost all of em are/were RB powered and daily drifted.
vlsd is poo unless you drive on the street and never track it.
tire wear?, not really unless you live in a city
chirpy? depending on the tires
just do it
sliding corners in buffalo since 2002
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NismoZRS
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92 S13 Coupe
brunswick me
4-16-2009
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| « Re: (rudeboy) | 6:01 PM 10/7/2009 |
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| Quote, originally posted by rudeboy » | i've had the same welded in 5 240's in 8 years. almost all of em are/were RB powered and daily drifted.
vlsd is poo unless you drive on the street and never track it.
tire wear?, not really unless you live in a city
chirpy? depending on the tires
just do it
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*Agrees completely*... if you read up i posted a few months ago when i first got my 240 that i was gonna buy another diff and swap it out for events.. i was just being a little girl... just weld yours and keep that s*** in there.. its not bad unless your a whiner because parking is "hard" or the rain.. driving welded in the rain on the streets improves how you are on the track... Just weld it and keep it.. MAN UP!!! 
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916drifter
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1990 240sx Fastback
Sacramento, Cali
8-4-2003
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| « Re: (NismoZRS) | 12:27 AM 10/23/2009 |
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| Quote, originally posted by NismoZRS » | driving welded in the rain on the streets improves how you are on the track... Just weld it and keep it.. MAN UP!!! |
Everything you said was a agreeable until you said that. If you think thats true i would be scared of your driving on and off the track.
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