Volunteers Unappreciated

[Nismo_Freak]

Saw this on a local forum, about a guy that volunteered to work in Houston with the Katrina evacuees.

All across Texas, it's the same story. Volunteers being attacked, raped, their cars broken into, disrespect, ungrateful people, etc.

I say we ship their asses back to their swamp and let them think things out for a while.

Quote » SO IVOLUNTEERED..........I thought I mightinform the few friends I have on my recent traumatic experience. I am goingtotell it straight, blunt, raw, and I don't give a damn. Long read, I know butplease do read!!! I went to volunteer on Saturday at the George R.Brown convention for two reasons.

A: I wanted to help people to get a warm fuzzy.B: Curiosity. I've been watching the news lately and have seen scenes that have made me want to vomit.

And no it wasn't dead bodies, the city under water, or the sludge everywhere. It was PEOPLES BEHAVIOR.The people on T.V. (99% being Black) where DEMANDING help. They were not asking nicelybut demanding as if society owed these people something. Well the honest truthis WE DON'T. Help should be asked for in a kind manner and then appreciated. Thisis not what the press (FOX in particular) was showing, what I was seeing was agroup of people who are yelling, demanding, looting, killing, raping, andSHOOTING back at the demanded help!!!!! So I'm thinking this can't possiblybe true can it???? So I decide to submit to the DEMAND for help out of SHOCK. Icouldn't believe this to be true of the majority of the people who are theweakest of society. So I went to volunteer and help folks out and see thetruth. So I will tell the following story and you decide:I arrived at theastrodome only to find out that there are too many volunteers and thatvolunteers where needed at the George R. Brown Convention Center. As I was walking up to the Convention Center I noticed a line of cars that wrapped around blocks filled with donations. These where ordinary Houstonians comingwith truckloads and trunks full of water, diapers, clothes, blankets, food,all types of good stuff. And lots of it was NEW. I felt that warm fuzzy whilehelping unload these vehicles of these wonderful human beings. I then wentinside the building and noticed approximately 100,000 sq. ft. of clothes,shoes, jackets, toys and all types of goodies all organized and ready for thepeople in need. I signed up, received a name badge and was on my merry way excited tobe useful.I toured the place to get familiar with my surrounding; theentire place is probably around 2 million sq. ft. I noticed rows as far asthe eye can see of mattresses, not cots, BLOW UP MATTRESSES!!! All of which hadnice pillows and plenty of blankets. 2 to 3 bottles of water lay on every bed.These full size to queen size beds by the way where comfortable, I laid in one tosee for myself. I went to look at the medical area. I couldn't believe what myeyes were seeing!!! A makeshift hospital created in 24 hours!!! It wasunbelievable, they even had a pharmacy. I also noticed that they created showers, whichwould also have hot water. I went upstairs to the third floor to find a HUGEcafeteria created in under 24 hours! Rows of tables, chairs and food everywhere -enough to feed an army! I'm not talking about crap food either. They had Jason'sdeli food, apples, oranges, coke, diet coke, lemonade, orange juice, cookies, alltypes of chips and sandwiches. All the beverages by the way was put on iceand chilled!!!! In a matter of about 24 hours or less an entire mini-city waserected by volunteers for the poor evacuees. This was not your rundown crapshelter, it was BUM HEAVEN. So that was the layout: great food, comfybeds, clean showers, free medical help, by the way there was a library, anda theatre room I forgot to mention. Great stuff right???? Well here iswhat happened on my journey I started by handing out COLD water bottlesto evacuees as they got off the bus. Many would take them and only 20% or lesssaid thank you. Lots of them would shake their heads and ask for sodas! So thiswent on for about 20-30 minutes until I was sick of being an unappreciatedservant. I figured certainly these folks would appreciate some food!!! So I wentupstairs to serve these beloved evacuees some GOOD food that I wish I could have atthe moment!***The following statements are graphic, truthful, anddiscuss UNRATIONAL behavior*** Evacuees come slowly to receive this mountainof food that is worth serving to a king! I tell them that we have 2 types ofgreat deli sandwiches to choose from - ham and turkey. Many look at the food indisgust and DEMAND burgers, pizza, and even McDonalds!!!! Jason's deli isbetter than McDonalds!!!! Only 1 out of ten people who took something would say"thank you" the rest took items as if it was their God give right to be servedwithout a shred of appreciation!!! They would ask for Beer and liquor. Theycomplained that we didn't have good enough food. They refused food and laughed at us.They treated us volunteers as if we where SLAVES. No not all of them ofcourse, but 70% did!!!!!! 20% where appreciative, 10% took the food without any commentand the other 70% had some disgusting comment to say. Some had the nerve tolaugh at us. And when I snapped back at them for being mean, they would curse atme!!! Needless to say I was in utter shock. They would eat their food and leavetheir mess on the table. some would pick up their stuff many would leave it forthe volunteers to pick up. I left that real quick to go down and help set upsome more beds. I saw many young ladies carrying mattresses and I helped for awhile. Then I realized something.their where hundreds of able bodied young men whocould help!! I asked a group of young evacuees in their teens and earlytwenties to help. I got cursed at for asking them to help!!! One said "We justlost our ****ing homes and you want us to work!!" The next said "YaCracker, you got a home we don't" I looked at them in disbelief.

WHY SHOULD I HELP PEOPLE WHO DON'T WANT TO HELP THEMSELVES!!!! I waved them off andturned away and was laughed at and more "white boy jokes" where made atme. I felt no need to waste my breath on a bunch of pitiful losers. I went to a nearbyrestroom where I noticed a man shaving. I used the restroom, washed my handsand saw this man throw his razor towards the trash can...he missed. he walkedout leaving his disgusting razor on the floor for some other "cracker"to pick up. Even the little kids where demanding. I saw only ONE white family and onlyTWO Hispanic families. The majority of which are thugs and lifetimelazy *** welfare recipients. We are inviting the lowest of the low toHouston. And like idiots we are serving the people who will soon steal our cars,rape, murder, and destroy our city while stealing from our pockets on a dailybasis through the welfare checks they take. We will fund our owndestruction. By US I don't mean a specific race, I meanthe people who work hard, work smart, have values and morals. Only people who want to helpthemselves should be helped, the others should be allowed to destroythemselves. I do not want to work hard, give the government close to half the money Iearn so they can in turn give it to a bunch of losers. I don't believe inbeing poor for life. My family immigrated here, we came here poor, and nowthank God, and due to HARD WORK we are doing fine. If immigrants, who come here,don't know the language can work and become successful. If we continue to rewardthese losers then we will soon destroy our great country. I just witnessedselfish, arrogant, unappreciative behavior by the very people who need help the most.Now these same people who cursed me, refused my cities generosity, who refuse tohelp themselves are DEMANDING handouts on their own terms!!!!!!! They prance around as if they are owed something, and when they do receive a handout, they say it's not good enough![/quote]

[Jesda]

Entitlement ruins America.

[rexhunta]

wow that pretty ****ed up.. man.. thats just stupid.. good on the guy for going out to help though. good on him.

[1WheelWonder]

I agree with NismoFreaks statement.

[Urabus GodofTraction]

I agree with all above statments

[USsil80]

man got to love what welfare does to people.. and if they rebuild peoples homes just couse(ie those that didn't bother to take out insurance even though they lived UNDER sea level and in a known hurican "alley") would be ust wrong... ... yea the white socity really hates the black becouse they aren't helping right????

[Mr1der]

ya can't sit around and wait for the world to be handed to you.

they'll figure it out or we'll go broke supporting them I guess...

[wickedpelf]

**** it let them fix it them selfs...

[-ExCesS-]

wow, i hate ppl that whine about things and not do anything about it

[fiznat]

Man that sucks. Its one of those things that you feel CANT be the norm everywhere, but then again what if it is. You still cant just abandon these people, but christ why cant these victims behave like normal appreciative human biengs? ...And then I was watching an interview on TV today where displaced people were constantly complaining: "if we were white this crap would never be happening to us, everything would be perfect and there would be boats/planes/tanks/food/beds/money/help etc."

Still, the true philanthropist is supposed to ignore these things. Figure the people are stressed out and hurting, its a natural human reaction to lash back in anger and get upset. The words "thank you" probably wouldnt be the first to come to my mind either, even though it probably should considering the amount of help/volunteers that are joining in.

I donno... its a crappy situation all around. WDRacing, one of our moderators just recently got back from NO after air lifting people out of their houses and things like that-- he tells a very different story. Not everyone is like this.

[NISTECH]

Its truly disappointing to see this happen. I really feel sorry for the people who are appricative and working with the support they are getting. The 70% mentioned is making thingings 100 times harder on them. I mean they have lost everything. They are lucky to have survived and are making the best of what they have and these @ss clowns are making their lifes even more miserable. We need some bouncer volunteers down their to bounce any one that doesnt say thank you for the help they are receiving back to the disease infested swamp Alan mentioned. I know 2 bouncers that may consider..lol

[Kenrik]

Send the 70% back to the swamp then drop a nuke on the place... problem solved...

[nuQ]

i agree completely with the author of this piece (assuming everything he is saying is the truth), to be very disgusted with the situation down there, but to keep things a little in perspective. but we do have to look at the situation intelligently and without any knee-jerk reactions.was the city of new orleans (or pretty much any city in this country) ready or prepared for this type of disaster (even though govt. officials were warned this could happen)??? nowere the people who lost everything (and not all being on welfare, and many of the survivors paying city,state and federal taxes,,,trusting their elected officials to be on top of things like this) treated worse than many third world people after the storm? yes (i've been out of work with an injury so i could watch many live hours of coverage and it was sickening!) would i have been completely pissed if i was one of the people who just lost everything waiting for days and days to get any help or supplies--damn right. understand, i'm not making excuses for the rude people taking it out on the volunteers, that is wrong. their gripe should be much higher up the chain of commands. all i'm saying, and what we all must realize is, by focusing all of our disgust at the survivors instead of the powers that be, that TOTALLY dropped the ball when we had our own disaster on american shores, we are playing right into the hands of the ones truely at fault. tell me if i'm wrong, but, i feel that as long as almost 50% of my income goes to federal-state and city taxes (that's right, close to half! take your NET INCOME then keep track of ALL the other taxes you pay in the course of the year--elect. gas, oil, phone, cable, purchases, and especially GASOLINE! your income hasnt gone up, but the price per gallon has!), i have every right to demand alot from my govt. help should have been there IMMEDIATLY to help those citizens (after all, they paid for it!). what happened down there was wrong and that should be in the spotlight and how disasters like this can be prevented in the future. and i know it sucks to be the guy handing somebody a water with no thank you,,but, that really shouldn't be the main focus.i know i'll get slammed for this, but, think about things first.ps-----why would you think govt. officials (both rep. and dems) don't like welfare??? as long as they have millions and millions on welfare, it makes an extremely loyal base of voters assuring them re-election. just like a parent that can get their kids to do the chores by threatning to take away their allowance. politicians speak out of both sides of their mouth when it comes to welfare. welfare, in all forms (including corporate), keeps the politicians in a position of "you need us". a very good position to be in at election time.i know i'll get flagged for turning this into a "political thread", but c'mon, ultimately that is what it all boils down to, as like most things.just trying to keep focus.....

[NISTECH]

I dont know I have to question rape,murder and looting as a bases for political outcrying. Dont you?

[Sirikool]

WOW! now thats one side of the news I never heard of. Wonder if it would be a good thing to broadcast. Top story tonight "unappreciative evacuees". Aw man, I feel sorry for Texas now.

[Dattebayo]

I dont care what anyone else thinks...

There is a freaking reson for people living below sea level and in constant danger. And its not exactly poverty pulling those strings. Its because of imbred ignorance.

It has nothing to do with race though, I cant imagine why the original post mentions that 99% of them were black. That is completely consequential because of the area's demographics. I can agree with the anger, but the slurs are based purely on retaliation and should not be heeded whatsoever.

[NISTECH]

We are talking about Texas. There is still alot of racially motivated attitudes down there. hell thats probably the place with the biggest KKK following thats still in existance.

[HashiriyaS14]

I actually recently found out that Rising Sun MD is a hugely important area to the KKK, and that just surprised the shxt out of me. It's like 40 miles from here....I totally wouldn't expect that at all (nor, likely, would most people from the DC Metro area).

[USsil80]

I can agree with the anger, but the slurs are based purely on retaliation and should not be heeded whatsoever.

what retaliation... what for... what did someone going on there own time, and not fo money, trying to relive some of the stress of what they just went through do to them.... that is just wrong ignorant and uncalled for

[Nismo_Freak]

We are talking about Texas. There is still alot of racially motivated attitudes down there. hell thats probably the place with the biggest KKK following thats still in existance.

What the hell?

Dude they aren't in Hickville, TX, they are in Austin (one of the most liberal towns in the South), San Antonio (whites are minorities, mexicans are majority), and also in Houston, which is a very culturally diverse city.

These people are volunteers and just want to help people. They don't care what race they are. It's just a scenario of unappreciative people. Hell I've heard at least 10 other stories from people I know regarding the same topic. This one just happens to be more thoughtout so I posted it.

The only "racially charged" part of this entire thing is the african-americans claiming they would have been treated better if they were white. Stereotypical response if you ask me.

[Oatmealman]

man screw them

[Kenrik]

To me it has nothing to do with race I know some very smart nice black people who I consider friends... The fact is there is a lot of ghetto trash that went around looting, raping etc... not just black.. but white and spainsh to... I judge people on their morals and ethics nothing else.. What really pissed me off was when I heard "We would be helped right now if we were white" after hearing that I was like screw you... I'm not going to help just because of that remark it's disgusting to me!!! and so I go back to my original thought send the 70% back and NUKE the place.... We don't need people like that in our country!

[Florida240sx]

I'm tired of this event. It was their fault for living in such an area.Accident waiting to happen.However, we shoudl still help them.But those who don't appreicate the help can go **** **********. Especially when they start making it racial.

[dj_hype]

/***Begin Rant***Yall think its bad in Houston/Austin. You should try being 40 miles north of N.O. I drive back and forth to LSU every day to go to school and every single day you see a bunch of ghetto fabulous blacks standing on the corners holding signs like "Lost Home. Give Money or your Racist!" No ****. I had a guy call me a racist whitey cracker blah blah blah the other day because when I tried to give him a $5 bill to go get something to eat he said "What, you tink a 5 is gon feed me? I know you rich cracka, gimme dat 20 in yo wallet mayne. I lost ereting mayne." I rolled up the window and took off. Houston and all that got a pretty mild bunch compared to whats in hammond/ponchatoula, baton Rogue, denham springs, walker, everywhere around where i live. I live here and I say we ship all the gangbangers and lazy no good crackheads back to N.O., blow all the levies, and turn the damn place into a really nice lake with a bunch of free boat launches./***End Rant***

I agree completely with what yall are saying. Why should we spend our hard earned money helping people who obviously don't have enough brains or motivation to help themselves. It's not a racist thing. It has nothing to do with what color you are. Along with all the trashy ghetto fab that should be smashed in the face with a 9 iron, there are quite a few white trash that should meet the same fate.

[Kenrik]

/***Begin Rant***Yall think its bad in Houston/Austin. You should try being 40 miles north of N.O. I drive back and forth to LSU every day to go to school and every single day you see a bunch of ghetto fabulous blacks standing on the corners holding signs like "Lost Home. Give Money or your Racist!" No ****. I had a guy call me a racist whitey cracker blah blah blah the other day because when I tried to give him a $5 bill to go get something to eat he said "What, you tink a 5 is gon feed me? I know you rich cracka, gimme dat 20 in yo wallet mayne. I lost ereting mayne." I rolled up the window and took off. Houston and all that got a pretty mild bunch compared to whats in hammond/ponchatoula, baton Rogue, denham springs, walker, everywhere around where i live. I live here and I say we ship all the gangbangers and lazy no good crackheads back to N.O., blow all the levies, and turn the damn place into a really nice lake with a bunch of free boat launches./***End Rant***

I agree completely with what yall are saying. Why should we spend our hard earned money helping people who obviously don't have enough brains or motivation to help themselves. It's not a racist thing. It has nothing to do with what color you are. Along with all the trashy ghetto fab that should be smashed in the face with a 9 iron, there are quite a few white trash that should meet the same fate.

Modified by Kenrik at 10:10 PM 9/17/2005

[NISTECH]

Whoa there Alan. I am not trying to say its racial/anti blacks. I was reffering to the terminology used by the poster and what background might have persuaded that terminoligy. May have been heavy racial statements during his upbringing that made him feel the need to specifically point out their race.My KKK statement was based on where I have heard most of their group disfunctions gain media attention. Not neccesarily in Austin or Houston but texas in general. No slam was intended against the volunteer.

Well I wrote the above in response to Alans post then reveiwed the whole thread before clicking submit. Only to find the poster that I was responding to [2BN_s13] made a statment that was in the first post by the volunteer was false. He said the volunteer had stated that 99% were black. I reviewed that post and no where in it did the volunteer state that or make any reffrence to the race of people other then pointing out the minority groups. I appoligize for that. My Reasoning for my response was based on that statement. I decided to leave my response in this post.

[nuQ]

nice post NISTECH, applaud the fact you went back to look at the facts of the first post. like i said in my post,,don't let the race thing, or volunteer thing steer the thinking to what is the IMPORTANT part of all of this,,,,,the help did not come when is should have. and to the moronic post saying they deserved it for living where they did......will you be saying that when the entire las angelas area is DEVASTATED by the "big one"???? can you imagine jay leno, steven speilberg, aaron spelling, sitting on the curb waiting days for food, water, and a way out from the rotting bodies?????!!!! the big picture here is, we MUST bring democracy to the poor iraqi people, but we'll make good ole', tax paying americans sit in death and decay, to maybe get a bus out of town with nothing more than the cloths on their backs and feel great about it when their elected officials knew for years that the levee system around new orleans was not anywhere near prepared for a big hurricane. don't let the actions of a few stop you from seeing where the fault really lies!

[Bubba1]

I actually recently found out that Rising Sun MD is a hugely important area to the KKK, and that just surprised the shxt out of me. It's like 40 miles from here....I totally wouldn't expect that at all (nor, likely, would most people from the DC Metro area).

FYI: Since most of the Shxt is already out of your body from the KKK being so close to you, you might as well know the Pagan Motorcycle Gang also has a Rising Sun chapter...

[NISTECH]

The good that came out of this was Bush admitted the government F-ed up in this instance and will now make them review and cut some of the red tape that brought the disaster within a disaster on. Still the extent at which a large scale of people became distructive to society and continue to be distructive is completely unacceptable. There are other means in which to address this issue, not belittle those who dont work for the government who are trying to help. Or disrupt /decimatethe life style of people hundreds of miles away. There are proper ways of handling problems,raping and looting is not one of those ways. Organizing and voicing your opion as a group is and always will be the most successful way to get things handled.

[Nismo_Freak]

nice post NISTECH, applaud the fact you went back to look at the facts of the first post. like i said in my post,,don't let the race thing, or volunteer thing steer the thinking to what is the IMPORTANT part of all of this,,,,,the help did not come when is should have.

I'm sorry but I do not buy this.

It's a logistics nightmare to move mass quantities of equipment, food, and other supplies through a state that was just torn apart by a large hurricane, and more noteably through a city that is now a lake. Communications are cut, so you have to first setup a command center to organize the entire operation, otherwise you will create mass paranoia. Controlling a crowd of scared, hungry, and sometimes dying people is very very finite, and a lack of control is deadly. Just flooding aid into the area is not efficient, and is like spitting on a forest fire to put it out. A situation that taught us this in the past was the liberation of the holocaust victims in Europe. We would overfeed them and not moderate their intakes so many people died. Everything is about solving the problem without causing another one.

It took time to get control of the area, and then began the mobilization of distribution and re-supply. Engineers and crews had to fix the levees and work towards pumping the water out, and until then everyone is limited to waterways and streets full of mud and debris.

The military had to relocate tons of soldiers and equipment to the area. We don't just timewarp them there, we had to fly them in from other states. Set up the chain of command and assess the area. Otherwise you are just spitting on a forest fire again.

The fault for the deaths of hundreds maybe thousands lies with no one. Stop pointing fingers, it's a god damn hurricane, they can kill people, and the people that chose to stay there took that risk. George Bush took the fault because he wanted to take pressure off of local government, it was nothing more than a move to resolve the problem, and for that I applaud him. It's sad to think that the President of the United States would be blaimed for a hurricane hitting the US.

We Americans are getting to the point where even simple thought is beyond us.

Thank the media people, thank the media.