RB25 short shifter

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Ok, so i have search and found nothing relating to short shifters on RB motors. I have seen a few on ebay that said they were for Ka/sr/rb/ca and i cant imagine that all shifters would be the same? does anyone have a short shifter on thiers? if so what kind, were did you get it?

my extemely long stock shifter is pissing me off


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T4 RB25det wrote:Ok, so i have search and found nothing relating to short shifters on RB motors. I have seen a few on ebay that said they were for Ka/sr/rb/ca and i cant imagine that all shifters would be the same? does anyone have a short shifter on thiers? if so what kind, were did you get it?

my extemely long stock shifter is pissing me off
Theres plenty of info on the shifters, I believe its even in one of the sticky's. Also, the sr/ka will work with minor modification

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so is there any short shifter that will work with the RB25 with no modication?

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As of right now, there's only 1 --> the Nismo Solid Shifter. It costs in excess of $200 and only shortens the throws by 10% so IMHO it's not even worth it. I'm hoping someone will realize that the need for an RB25 short shifter is significant and probably represents one of the most desirable elements for those of us who have finished our swap.

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240sxed wrote:Theres plenty of info on the shifters, I believe its even in one of the sticky's. Also, the sr/ka will work with minor modification
damn just read it, seems like a **** load of work for a short shifter. I think im going to end up just cutting some of the length off of my stock shifter and re thread it

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kouki-gymkhana wrote:As of right now, there's only 1 --> the Nismo Solid Shifter. It costs in excess of $200 and only shortens the throws by 10% so IMHO it's not even worth it. I'm hoping someone will realize that the need for an RB25 short shifter is significant and probably represents one of the most desirable elements for those of us who have finished our swap.
I have the ability and resources to make one with CAD and a CNC, but the cost would not be cheap. i would need a pretty good number of people who were %100 sure they wanted one in order to not loose my *** doing it

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^ if i was guaranteed a good fit and good quality. i would be in. i have not problem spending a couple hundred bucks on a quality part.

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the problem with cost is that i wouldnt feel really safe just doing the CAD designe on it and then making like 20 of them. I would have to re do it a few times in order to get the right fitment for it. thats what will cost the most.

the cheap way to do it for me and anyone else who would possibly be interested in this would just be to make it just like the stock sfiter except make it the same width the whole way down. basicly the same as the stock shifter but about 3-4 inches shorter. if i were to do it that way it would be pretty easy to just take the stock mesurments and shorten it a few inches so it would be one CAD drawing, and there would be less of a chance of me having to re-do it.

shifting wouldnt be incredibly shorter, but the hight would be alot lower so you dont feel like your driving a tracktor trailor

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this makes it harder to shift if you merely chop off a few inches from the top creating less leverage to change the gear. the idea is to raise the pivot point on the shifter. im sure you are aware of this. but if you could essencially fab up an actual short shifter, there could be a huge market for it. not only on this forum, but many places elsewhere. i honestly could picture people from AUS and other countries wanting these. buisness is buisness, sometimes you have to take a hit in the beginning, but make a buck later on down the line. i would consider it if i were you. best of luck on whichever you decide.

EDIT: its strange. i just read your location. whats even more strange is this. your name is brent? you are also familiar with a2sportcompacts.com? how about xceedspeed? i have a mod list of your car sitting in front of me. thats really strange.
Modified by lucky7 at 11:59 AM 9/11/2005

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Seriously, if you made a shifter that shortened the throw by 30% and the height by at least 20%, I'd be all over it and willing to pay as much as $250 for it. I understand your point about the revision process being the most costly aspect but honestly, no one ever nails a finalized 100% perfect product without developing a couple of protypes first.

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still worth it for those of us that do not want to modify their current one but need something for their RB powered machine. plus the fact that its shorter in height will be a key point for many 240 owners ith the swap. until someone makes one there is no other solution for the bolt on people than the nismo model.

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Why is a tall shifter such a bad thing? I think the stock height (or the height it ends up being in a 240sx) is great. You don't have to reach very far from the wheel. Short shifters give your syncros less time to slow down anyway. I would, however, be up for a bushing that took all the slop out of the stock shifter.

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uh...any KA C's or OBX style short shifter will work with the RB25, you just have to mix and match the KA and RB parts to get it to work, no real modification necessary. Once you see it, it's easy to figure out

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but C's is impossible to find, and OBX is not on my list of companies to buy from. i cant seem to find the nismo short shifter for the 25. i had the link saved, but its gone now somehow.

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lucky7 wrote:EDIT: its strange. i just read your location. whats even more strange is this. your name is brent? you are also familiar with a2sportcompacts.com? how about xceedspeed? i have a mod list of your car sitting in front of me. thats really strange.

Modified by lucky7 at 11:59 AM 9/11/2005
yeah i talked to you at redline once when i was looking at alex's car. it was actully that day that i decided to sell my integra and buy a 240. I have never brought my car to redline since the people there are kinda shady, i have been on woodward a few times and i go to ann arobr meets all the time. The mod list on a2sportcomapcts is kinda old, and there are also no pics of my car on there even tho the person in charge of the site has quite a few of them...

the main problem i have with my shifter is the hight, i have no problem with the length of the throws. however if you do chop a few inches of the top that is less distance traveled during shifts.I see what you are saying about the synchros having less time to slow down, but if you can shift faster than your synochros, you need to win an award because it is near impossible to do.

If there are alot of people interested i can start to do some work to see if its going to be worth my time to do or not. I would only be making enouph so that i dont loose money on having one for myself, i really dont want to make a ton of them.

I did a similar thing with my intake manifold. i wanted the veilside intake but there wasnt one made for the rb25 so i pretty much made an exact replica of one. ended up being alot cheaper doing it all myself than it would have been to buy a veilside and made it fit somehow

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http://www.greenline.jp/

c's shortshifter for the rb25det

-Bluefire

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well Nismo does make a quick shift that shortens the stroke by 25% but not for the RB25 but here is the solid slit shift for the RB for around $171 shipped, is that a good deal??........the pic has both the solid and the quick shifters next to eachother.

http://www.nengun.com/catalogue/product/696

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Bluefire wrote:http://www.greenline.jp/

c's shortshifter for the rb25det

-Bluefire
aparently these dont exist on that site anymore. or i cant find them. they do have the nismo solid shifter though. i may have to settle with that.

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Bluefire wrote:http://www.greenline.jp/

c's shortshifter for the rb25det

-Bluefire
Has anyone bought anything from this company??....can I trust them?

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Damn this has been covered so many times. I believe wolfgang? made a write up on how to use a B&M SS from an sr20det. B&M makes a plate type for the rb25det. Pretty much all SR/CA/RB short shifters are the same just swap over the lower bushing and done. I have a ebay "nismo" short shifter and all I did was just swap the bushing and popped it in. Theres a Snap ring you need to undo and the shifter pulls right out. For everyone who has a problem with the lowering bushing have a fix for it if people are interested, I'll do a write up. Brent and Dane, Welcome to Nico its about time you guys got smart and did Rb's . Posers lol.-Alex

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Slo_240sx wrote:Brent and Dane, Welcome to Nico its about time you guys got smart and did Rb's . Posers lol.-Alex
so what happened to you? Mr. ls1

well, i know who is going to be helping me with the shifter *cough* alex *cough*

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Hey you'll follow sooner or later, LoL. When I put down 450 with just heads, cam and exhaust and walk your T4 car you'll listen. Anyways, give me a call we'll get that shifter prob worked out. You can hop in my car and see how the one I got feels.-Alex

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T4 RB25det wrote:
so what happened to you? Mr. ls1

well, i know who is going to be helping me with the shifter *cough* alex *cough*
i hear that. plan on doing 2 of them alex. haha.

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thats cool and all, but where can i find a bushing for the bottom of the shifter, thats what im in need of, if an aftermarket will fit in there and all i need is a bushing ill just go that rout, cause i have no shifter for my car, my motorset dident come with one..

-Ry

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lucky7 wrote:
aparently these dont exist on that site anymore. or i cant find them. they do have the nismo solid shifter though. i may have to settle with that.
its at the bottom of interior parts

-BLuefire

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Bluefire wrote:
its at the bottom of interior parts

-BLuefire
cool man, i skipped over it somehow. i just sent them an email about shipping a C's shifter to the states. although its about $300 US currency, im not concerned. i also asked for pictures and any other shipping info. i hope to hear from these guys.

meanwhile, has anyone had any purchasing experience with greenline.com? any other feedback would be excellent. thanks.

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holy shat that was quick. already got an email response.

"Hi Dane, Thanks for your enquiry. Pricing information as requested: C's Short Stroke Kit R33 GTSt: 33,264 yen Shipping: 4,100 yen TOTAL: 37,364 yen TOTAL w/Paypal Fees: 39,233 yen Notes: Stock available in approximately 5 days. If you decide to proceed with purchasing please send the above total including fees (in yen) via Paypal to [email protected] along with your shipping details. Please let us know if you have further questions. Regards,Jason Greenline Motorsportshttp://www.greenline.jp"

i used their conversion from yen to us dollar and came up with it comming out to about $355.05 shipped to my house. what do you guys think? im wondering what "stock available in approximately 5 days" is all about.

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means it will take about 5 days for them to get one in there hands

-Bluefire

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355 for a flippin shifter!? No wonder you don't have any money to finish your car. 85 bucks on ebay and you got one. F**k man if thats the case I 'll want to work on your car of you pay me that much. B&M sells one for like 230. wow... 355 for a short shifter, get real.-Alex

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go buy an ls1, tool.

seriously though. i really dont want to half *** anything. i dont mind spending cash on stuff, especially cause i know its gonna own. haha.

BTW alex, did you sell your car yet?


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