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94sky

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5-24-2004

  SC VH45DE in a R33 Skyline


Hey all,
i was on here quite a while ago with my Vh45DE powered R33 that some of u may remember, well now i have taken the next step and added a vortech T-Trim supercharger, programable ECU, Intercooler and a few other goodies. Its not yet running, but im hoping to have it completed in the next 2 weeks.

Let me know what u guys think.

Cheers

John

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 « Re: SC VH45DE in a R33 Skyline (94sky)


Sounds a bit crazy, but I definatly like that you're thinking "outside the box". So what made you swap out the RB?

Oh yeah, post more pics!!!11!



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Ummm, skylines are super common in australia so i wanted something that would stand out basically. Can anyone give an estimate on how much power the car will make running ~7psi intercooled and fully tuned?

Full details and pics on the car here http://www.teamkrazy.com/australia/rides/johnv8/




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that look crazy I like it why not do a Vk45Dett



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very nice setup. I'll be eager to see the finished result and some numbers!



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I'll guess 330-350 at the wheels at 7 psi.
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I love it. It's perfect.
I'd rather have a VH than an RB any day.



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 « Re: SC VH45DE in a R33 Skyline (sean8564)


Quote, originally posted by sean8564 »
that look crazy I like it why not do a Vk45Dett

No room newhere... its tight with just the VH45 in there.

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 « Re: SC VH45DE in a R33 Skyline (94sky)


I hope that VH has updated chain guides





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I hope that VH has updated chain guides

yeah we did that before we originally put the engine in.

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Quote, originally posted by DAEDALUS »
I'll guess 330-350 at the wheels at 7 psi.

Rob - Remember the BAD Q did WAY more than that at 6 psi. The VH responds VERY well to FI.

I'll venture 370, without emissions crap and on good gas.



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sounds promising, How much boost would u say is safe to run? i have headers/exhaust, intercooler, fuel reg, modified fuel rale, intercooler and ecu of course.
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Who did the boost map on the ECU?

I'd be wary of exceeding 8 lbs, but that's just because (to my knowledge) it's not been done before.

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arent the VH45 internals good for around 500hp?



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Microtech are building a custom programmable ECU for it. It does away with the airflow meter and uses a map sensor. Then the car will be tuned on the dyno.
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Quote, originally posted by AZhitman »

Rob - Remember the BAD Q did WAY more than that at 6 psi. The VH responds VERY well to FI.

I'll venture 370, without emissions crap and on good gas.

I have to go with plain math. Volumetric efficiency is darn near 100% without FI. With 7 psi boost you can expect almost 50% more HP at most, say 450 at the crank (with better tuning than stock). What you back off for losses is open for interpretation. I used 25% (337.5HP) cause I'm trained to like my margins. If you can get losses down to 20% that would leave maybe 360HP at the wheels.

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 « Re: SC VH45DE in a R33 Skyline (94sky)


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Let me know what u guys think.

I think you're crazy, but in the best possible way.

VH R33 put them together, you've got yourself one hell of a Nissan

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What is the trunk lined with?

Also, project looks good thus far, but one question: Isn't the supercharger outletfacing the wrong way?



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Either it's not installed, or he's gonna run more piping from its current location for a) clearance reasons
b) again being different
or
C) he'll giv u tha real reason lol
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The out let is there, off the outlet will be a 90deg mandrel down through the guard to feed the drivers side of the intercooler out the other side of the cooler back up through the passenger inner guard and into the throttle body.

The boot is just painted body colour and all un needed wiring and sound deadening removed as with the back seats and so forth. The car is getting a full cage to comply with our drag racing rules over here. So far all that is left is to finish the fuel system, machine the pulleys, and wire up the computer when it arrives as its not plug and play. Oh and repaint the ugly looking parts of the engine bay.

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On most of the dyno's over here the car made between 230-250rwhp so would it be safe to assume on the same dyno it would make at least 400rwhp with losses. All it had was a custom set of header pipes and 3" exhaust.
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Ah, I forgot about the intercooler. now it makes sense
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just picked up the cooler so i can start on the cooler piping now... its getting there, still waiting to hear about the computer though.
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More progress on mine, all the pulleys and adapters have been made intercooler mounted and piping done, Just have to make an idler and tensioner, finish off fuel system, wait for my computer to arrive and wire it up.... its booked in on the dyno on friday afternoon.... see how it goes....







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383whp / 365 lb. ft. @ 7 PSI

Thats if it's a true 7# ... and not a 7# pulley.

If it's a 7# pulley then you will see about 5.5# of total boost with that oversized intercooler.



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looks good

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sounds good... the only reason we went with a cooler that big was for future plans to the car... i dont have enough money to throw things like that away and buy a bigger one when the time came and i needed one that size.
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Quote, originally posted by 94sky »
sounds good... the only reason we went with a cooler that big was for future plans to the car... i dont have enough money to throw things like that away and buy a bigger one when the time came and i needed one that size.

Cool.

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I have seen this car in the flesh and it is awesome ... sounds soo good.

nothing beats that V8 rumble



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AWESOME!!!!!!!!!.

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Agreed!!!

Your the man! I'm going to say right around 375 at the wheels!

Thats a serious setup! I like what I see! And I know you bought the huge *** cooler - because down the road the motor is coming back out, and getting FORGED, right?

So we can see 12-14lbs of boost, and 450+ WHP

I wanna see some videos of this thing drifitng already, and the sounds she makes - must sound beautiful!

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is it still awd,if so thats sweet,but it not good luck getting that power to the ground with out peeling out,oh btw nice skyline




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Quote, originally posted by Nexus9 »
my my John you do get around

I have seen this car in the flesh and it is awesome ... sounds soo good.

nothing beats that V8 rumble

Hehe, yes yes i do. The people on these forums helped me out when i first put the engine in the car... there just isnt anyone in australia that knows much about these engines.

Almost done:


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Hey what did you do with the Rb25 was A turbo model.
Also i like it it is coming along nicely I bet it will be a gas drinker with that supercharger on like my Rb when it goes into boost I get no Gas milage.
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Don't forget to put the CAS back to plug that hole.
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Don't forget to put the CAS back to plug that hole.

hehe yeah it was sent away to the people that are buiilding the ECU for it so they know what the outputs are.

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Pretty custom ECU! So you're keeping the CAS functional? What about other major EFI components...MAF, FP regulator, VVT, etc? No emissions stuff I assume.
Also, what are the 2 heat exchangers in front of the radiator? Oil and tranny? AC? Thanks for sharing.
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Quote, originally posted by DAEDALUS »
Also, what are the 2 heat exchangers in front of the radiator? Oil and tranny? AC? Thanks for sharing.

Or, even better...
Is it an aftercooler?

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the little one is an oil cooler, comes with the SC package. the bigger one looks like a tranny cooler. are you guys running the Q45 auto tranny?
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