I found this company that offers pre-assembled mega squirt kits ready to go, thought you guys would like this. Especially that most ppl stay away from MS because of the level of electrical knowledge you must have to assemble one. It's basically a standalone for the fraction of the cost of aem or other brands, so ENJOY!
http://www.diyautotune.com/products.htm
Assembled Mega Squirt Kits!
looks like they either havent updated their site or maybe i misread. but the version they are selling is the the first gen and MSII has been out for a while.
just making sure you get the more current version.
BTW here is the MS forum site http://www.msefi.com/index.php
just making sure you get the more current version.
BTW here is the MS forum site http://www.msefi.com/index.php
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Re: Assembled Mega Squirt Kits! (ossBASHA)
This is Jerry from site mentioned above, DIYAutoTune.com. You're right it's just batch fire... but the consensus is that sequential really buys you next to nothing when it comes to performance. It can minorly improve idle and low speed emissions, but when your engine is spinning at 4,000-10,000 rpms it doesn't really make a difference. The valves are opening and closing so fast that the fuel doesn't have time to pool up, and your injectors are generally running at pretty high duty cycle anyways which means they're squirting nearly all the time.
Plenty of cars have been successfully built and raced making tons of horsepower on the MegaSquirt. It's really not a very limited system at all. It just costs a bunch less so people are suspect... that's because noone, myself included, make much money per unit. B&G get a couple bucks per 'partial kit', I turn them into nicely labeled kits and sell them cheaper than you could get the parts separately, and also assemble them into complete units and sell them for about 1/4 the cost of the cheapest retail option that could compete.
http://www.turbotruck.net/Here's a link to a 4700lb truck running 10's on the MegaSquirt on street tires... complete with video. With an exhaust issue (55+ psi backpressure on the hot side) he put down 497hp and 475tq on a dyno... Since then he's corrected the issue and is making 640hp and 800tq on the turbo alone. Then he added a 100shot of NO2 and he's making 767rwhp and 1000rmtq!
There's a landspeed record vehicle running a Hayubusa engine (1.3l) at over 345hp. Here's a link to info: http://www.msefi.com/viewtopic...speed
Correction: After further tuning he made 409hp on 16psi in a 1.3 liter!!
I've got a guy in Missouri right now installing the MS on a twin-turbo V8 he expects to make 1500+ hp in a land speed racer....
There are plenty more examples like this.
Just figured I'd chime in as I hate to see the MS get bashed without reason... it's a great unit that can accomplish most anything you throw at it.
Jerry Hoffmann a.k.a. 'FoundSoul'BTW-- I've emailed the admins here to check into becoming a site vendor... just waiting to hear back.
Modified by FoundSoul at 11:20 AM 5/25/2005
Modified by FoundSoul at 11:21 AM 5/25/2005
Plenty of cars have been successfully built and raced making tons of horsepower on the MegaSquirt. It's really not a very limited system at all. It just costs a bunch less so people are suspect... that's because noone, myself included, make much money per unit. B&G get a couple bucks per 'partial kit', I turn them into nicely labeled kits and sell them cheaper than you could get the parts separately, and also assemble them into complete units and sell them for about 1/4 the cost of the cheapest retail option that could compete.
http://www.turbotruck.net/Here's a link to a 4700lb truck running 10's on the MegaSquirt on street tires... complete with video. With an exhaust issue (55+ psi backpressure on the hot side) he put down 497hp and 475tq on a dyno... Since then he's corrected the issue and is making 640hp and 800tq on the turbo alone. Then he added a 100shot of NO2 and he's making 767rwhp and 1000rmtq!
There's a landspeed record vehicle running a Hayubusa engine (1.3l) at over 345hp. Here's a link to info: http://www.msefi.com/viewtopic...speed
Correction: After further tuning he made 409hp on 16psi in a 1.3 liter!!
I've got a guy in Missouri right now installing the MS on a twin-turbo V8 he expects to make 1500+ hp in a land speed racer....
There are plenty more examples like this.
Just figured I'd chime in as I hate to see the MS get bashed without reason... it's a great unit that can accomplish most anything you throw at it.
Jerry Hoffmann a.k.a. 'FoundSoul'BTW-- I've emailed the admins here to check into becoming a site vendor... just waiting to hear back.
Modified by FoundSoul at 11:20 AM 5/25/2005
Modified by FoundSoul at 11:21 AM 5/25/2005
Re: Assembled Mega Squirt Kits! (FoundSoul)
are you assembling the latest version of MS? MS II and the V3.0 board?
Re: Assembled Mega Squirt Kits! (eddiec)
MS2 isn't officially available until August though there were 200 that were released early. I've still got a few of them, one is on Ebay now. The PCB3 is going to be released in July/August as well. I've only got one for pre-release testing purposes - As soon as they are available I will be cranking them out.
Re: Assembled Mega Squirt Kits! (FoundSoul)
thats what i'm holding out for is the latest and greatest.
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Re: Assembled Mega Squirt Kits! (FoundSoul)
Jerry, I wasn't bashing MS, just pointing out a bad point. Any standalone that is affordable is great for the DIY guy. But quoting HP numbers and records is really a mute point. There are 100's of systems that have set records. Not to say the MS is better or worse then any of these said system.
However, your biggest competition is the AEM EMS. The MS simply cannot do everything the EMS can. Not to mention the EMS is a complete bolt in ECU. No swapping the harness, no splicing in sensors, it simply works with all the factory goods. Again, this isn't a knock against MS. MS is a bit cheaper so it's an affordable option for the guys who are just past the piggy back realm of tuning but don't want to dump alot of money into a standalone.
When I said I'd take the SDS over the MS, I only meant as an additional injector driver, not as a standalone.
I hope you come aboard as a vendor. We can always use an experienced tuner on board with us. Not to mention this is the biggest Nissan/Infiniti website on the entire planet at the moment
Welcome to NICOWD
However, your biggest competition is the AEM EMS. The MS simply cannot do everything the EMS can. Not to mention the EMS is a complete bolt in ECU. No swapping the harness, no splicing in sensors, it simply works with all the factory goods. Again, this isn't a knock against MS. MS is a bit cheaper so it's an affordable option for the guys who are just past the piggy back realm of tuning but don't want to dump alot of money into a standalone.
When I said I'd take the SDS over the MS, I only meant as an additional injector driver, not as a standalone.
I hope you come aboard as a vendor. We can always use an experienced tuner on board with us. Not to mention this is the biggest Nissan/Infiniti website on the entire planet at the moment
Welcome to NICOWD
^^ Absolutely. Jerry welcome to NICO, its always nice to get more and more experienced people on this board-- I bet we could work out something pretty sweet for you as a vendor as well. There is a LOT of interest on this board from people looking to build up their KA-Ts with systems as powerful as the MS. Even still, its nice just to have you around if you would be willing to lend your expertise to others. Any questions or whatever, please feel free to email WD or myself (or any of the NICO Administrators) and we will be happy to help.
Re: Assembled Mega Squirt Kits! (WDRacing)
No hard feelings-- I guess you weren't really bashing anything-- just expressing your opinion and of course that's cool. I just hated to see it left at that so I had to chime in... As for the examples you're right, any number of systems can perform well. I wasn't trying to establish the MS as superior to everything out there, but very, very capable.
-Jerry
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Re: (WDRacing)
I'm selling the current MS1 (PCB2.2) kits for $140. The MS1 (PCB3.0) kits will go for right around $180, still working out the details there.
The MS2 pricing is still a bit up in the air. The original 200 daughterboards were $72 each which would make my selling price for the complete kits with everything that's needed, (PCB 2.2, BOM, daugterboard, case, hardware, heatsink compound, etc) somewhere around the $215 mark. The PCB 3.0 has more components on the board to allow additional protection when running low-z injectors and will drie the price up a bit more. To around $250 per kit. PCB3.0 and the MS2 will be available around the same time so I may never sell any MS2 kits with the PCB 2.2.
I've yet to try and work out pricing on the assembled units, They'll be very reasonable for what you get though. I'm thinking PCB3.0 with MS2 will sell assembled for around $400. I've got a PCB2.2 MS2 going on Ebay right now, 4 days left and it's at about $430. Demand is pretty high right now and supply is almost non-existant.
The MS2 pricing is still a bit up in the air. The original 200 daughterboards were $72 each which would make my selling price for the complete kits with everything that's needed, (PCB 2.2, BOM, daugterboard, case, hardware, heatsink compound, etc) somewhere around the $215 mark. The PCB 3.0 has more components on the board to allow additional protection when running low-z injectors and will drie the price up a bit more. To around $250 per kit. PCB3.0 and the MS2 will be available around the same time so I may never sell any MS2 kits with the PCB 2.2.
I've yet to try and work out pricing on the assembled units, They'll be very reasonable for what you get though. I'm thinking PCB3.0 with MS2 will sell assembled for around $400. I've got a PCB2.2 MS2 going on Ebay right now, 4 days left and it's at about $430. Demand is pretty high right now and supply is almost non-existant.
Does Greg have a new email address? I emailed him at the address at http://www.nicoclub.com/advertise.shtml and haven't heard back yet. Maybe he's just busy?
-Jerry a.k.a. 'FoundSoul'DIYAutoTune.com
-Jerry a.k.a. 'FoundSoul'DIYAutoTune.com
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Re: Assembled Mega Squirt Kits! (FoundSoul)
Hey bud, I registered at MS forum and it wont let me post. Maybe it is a noob thing, but I am very interested in the MS. I just had a few questions and was hoping to get answers in the forum any help would be greatly appreciated. Oh BTW I have an 93 S13. I saw you on Nico and thought you might be able to help. Shaun
I sent this message to your email and it was returned maybe you will see it here.
I sent this message to your email and it was returned maybe you will see it here.
Re: Assembled Mega Squirt Kits! (FoundSoul)
I HAVE to ask, lol. Could a person send all the info, ie: 91 240SX KA-T with this injector and that MAF ect ect and receive an assembled unit? Plug and play? Hey, I'm NOT one that has the ability to build an ECU from a pile of parts....even WITH instructions!!! lol.
Thanks. This is an exciting possibility!!!
Thanks. This is an exciting possibility!!!
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Re: Assembled Mega Squirt Kits! (FoundSoul)
Hey could u tell me the price on a MSII? and send it to [email protected]. Car is a 1993 Nissan 240SX Fastback.Auto.