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Posted by: discosteak at 12:04 PM 7/2/2009
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Post Title: Re: (gigatt)
Posted by: discosteak at 12:05 AM 7/3/2009
I have the same set up and you obviously do not know what you are talking about. Ive been running the same set up for over 6K miles and in terms of suspension, ITS FLAWLESS. It has actually improved the ride and handling. So i strongly disagree with your point.
And in terms of "pimping your ride".... 20's or 19's DO NOT fill the wheel well of an M. Yesterday I pulled up next to a tiny BMW Z coupe with STOCK 19's on it. The Germans understand what real driving means. They build a better machine than the infiniti for a reason. I dont think id disagree with their engineering of 19"s on a miniature Z coupe.
Not to mention, the BMW M5 which is essentially the same class as our M has a dealer option for 22" rims. Now anything larger than 22's would be pushing it and look bad.
I recently sold a set of 20" rims that were on the M for a little becuase they were horrible in terms of look. You can shove your head in the wheel well.
Modified by ATSELLAB at 8:22 AM 7/8/2009
Post Title: Re: (the_sauce)
Posted by: gigatt at 9:09 AM 7/8/2009
I now have a better ride when I went from 19's to 22's.
Think about it, you probably rolling on 19's right now, thats the size that the 370z comes with, now compare the size to an M?.
Just like ATSELLAB explained to you, had they been 24's ..... that would be of concern, but 22's nah dawg, they alright !
Post Title: Re: (gigatt)
Posted by: 07sportm35 at 6:09 PM 7/8/2009
My opinion on your wheels? Hell who cares???? Enough on that!
Wheels--really to a extreme amount, can totally change the look of a M35. You can easily worsen or improve the looks...especially with the aggregate opinion of this board-which tends to be on the conservative side.
Add to the wheels, type of tires which in themselves have the same control wheels have on looks on things like handling, ride quality, noise and much more. Then add to that a diameter change to both tire and wheel, offsets, and weight, no wonder the conservatives are up in arms.
They (probably the most intelligent amongst us), have very legitimate concerns for us. Are they warranted? Time will tell. In the mean time, just enjoy your 22's while rollin' large and in charge.
If in time your ride quality degrades to the point you can't stand it, just lie like what you did when you said "my ride quality improved going from 19's to 22's".
With the same rolling circumfrence, you have 1.5 inches less tire sidewall (38% less) and a heavier wheel + tire combo. With all other things remaining equal, that statement of "rides Better" makes no sense at all.
This is why true luxury cars like the Lexus LS, which has a larger wheel base by 8 inches, weighs 850 pounds more, way longer in length over M35's have 18 X 7.5 inch wheels with 235/50 tires. That's 4.6 inches of tire sidewall. At 80 G's trust me to sell more cars if that were not so, they would have 22 inch wheels to achieve maximum ride quality.
Enjoy the wheels but lets be reasonable in our defense. 
Post Title: Re: (07sportm35)
Posted by: ATSELLAB at 7:51 PM 7/8/2009
Im also just trying to tell you all that 22's is not toooo large or ghetto like people are tying to make them out to be. Thats why I use the example of BMWs. Its not like im going to take my rims off becuase of someone on a forum...haha
Post Title: Re: 22"s Gotta love them (gigatt)
Posted by: mikeym45x at 9:30 AM 7/9/2009
| Quote, originally posted by mikeym45x » |
| wow, so when I went from stock 18s to 20s on my M45x and noticed a marked decrease in ride quality, maybe i should go up to 22 and give up even more sidewall to get back to a BETTER ride quality then stock? LOL |
Exactly! Now you got it. You see, there is a optimum wheel to tire sidewall ratio that cancels out road imperfections. German Scientist & physicist alike marvel at how less (sidewall) is more in the case of 22 inch wheel.
Right as we speak, the airlines industry-Boeing in particular, are working on a forged 22 inch wheel for Jumbo jets noting that customers will be over-joyed at the soft landings. In a test conducted on July 4th,2009 some passengers did not realize the plane actually landed until they looked out the window.
They first took notice and discovered this phenomenom while searching the NICO board. Gigatt and Atsellab will be honored and credited for this new technology. J/K 
Post Title: Re: (ATSELLAB)
Posted by: bigp100 at 8:56 AM 7/10/2009
But im sticking to my guns on the look, bigger wheels to fill the wheel well is better. 20's are too small for the car.
I think it also speaks when Ive had over 20 people want to buy my other 22" rim set I was selling from this forum alone. Someone in Florida now owns them.
Post Title: Re: (ATSELLAB)
Posted by: bigp100 at 11:45 AM 7/10/2009
Furthermore it's a 2 piece forged wheel(7 pounds heavier). With tires(29 pounds) I estimate him at 62 pounds. Bad, but not nearly as bad as it could be with 22's.
He also has the V8, so he's no slouch. Braking...well lets just say make sure he does not tailgate you or your loved ones.
Post Title: Re: (07sportm35)
Posted by: NBP45 at 3:30 PM 7/10/2009
Its about the drivability of the vehicle not about statistics. Im just trying to relay the "ACTUAL" experience for others who may be interested in 22's.
And listening to someone elses "statistics" or opinion on how he may "think" the car would function doesnt do the car or rims justice.
I once again asked my wife how she feels the car functions with the 22's compared to the stock, she once again says she doesnt really notice. Its her everyday car and knows it almost better than I do.
Post Title: Re: (ATSELLAB)
Posted by: 07sportm35 at 6:20 PM 7/10/2009
Also adding that much extra unsprung weight is simply counterproductive to everything dynamic that this car is about. How much do they weigh?
But to each their own. These same wheels in 20" would look better.
And like others have said, the car needs suspension mods to lower the ride height.
Post Title: Re: (ATSELLAB)
Posted by: Boss05 at 4:02 AM 7/13/2009
| Quote, originally posted by Boss05 » |
| 22s are the shyt perfect size rim for this car, stop hating haters, bet your cars don't even look as nice as this one, u geeks can continue doing your calculations you'll never no how the ride is unless u get 22s yourself or drive a M with 22s since u don't have 22s in my opinion your guys opinions don't count for shyttt |
You sound intelligent.
So why does your opinion count, and others don't? Is it because we don't possess the grammar skills like you? 
Post Title: Re: (EcstaSPT)
Posted by: Boss05 at 12:30 PM 7/13/2009
Post Title: Re: (Boss05)
Posted by: EcstaSPT at 1:20 PM 7/13/2009
| Quote, originally posted by Boss05 » |
| LOL relax geekkkkkkkkkk,i got 22's thats why |
If being an engineer = being a geek, then I guess I'm part of the geek squad 
Post Title: Re: (bigp100)
Posted by: ATSELLAB at 3:49 PM 7/13/2009
Those are the other set of 22's I sold you right? . They look nice with that color. How you liking them?
That makes 3 of us so far rockin the 22" Gianelles, I know there are more of you out there.
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Posted by: OneOfOne at 6:16 PM 7/13/2009
| Quote, originally posted by gigatt » |
I now have a better ride when I went from 19's to 22's. |
hey gigatt, i just realized, your car would look 10x better with a body kit! you need a body kit; you need to get rid of the mud flap thingy's, and get an aero kit;
i guarantee it will enhance your ride look and put those 22's to shine!
Post Title: Re: (EcstaSPT)
Posted by: fiveliterbeater at 8:43 PM 7/13/2009
| Quote, originally posted by EcstaSPT » |
| The more pics I see, the worse they look. |
i dont understand what you mean by this statement. are you just not a fan of 22's? or is there a particular style that you've seen and nothing else comes close to it?
Post Title: Re: (fiveliterbeater)
Posted by: nadzak at 8:49 PM 7/13/2009
| Quote, originally posted by nadzak » |
| Honestly, the ride looks great. How does it ride, I dont know, and I dont care, but it looks great. Dont talk smack to someone who is doing what they desire to do, he is happy, so you be happy with your ride. If you dont like the style, fine, say so, but dont tell someone they screw up or so. Commenting means expressing your opinion on whether you like the mod or not, and whether you would do it yourself, but dont attack the "stylist". |
1st off, no one is attacking his ride (re-reading my previous post will reveal that)
2nd, the AERO kit it a must have for any M and i think should come standard on our car (you are lying if you say otherwise)
3rd if you scoll upwards towards post #6 you will see that i already made a previous statement complimenting his choice in wheels.
4th............ahhh who cares,.....i corrected you enough for one evening.....
Post Title: Re: (fiveliterbeater)
Posted by: nadzak at 9:08 PM 7/13/2009
| Quote, originally posted by nadzak » |
| fiveliterbeater, my post was not specifically directed to you, it was a "GA" post... |
ooops. sorry. i didnt know who you were talking to. you need to use the quotations more bud 
Post Title: Re: (fiveliterbeater)
Posted by: nadzak at 9:19 PM 7/13/2009
| Quote, originally posted by fiveliterbeater » |
i dont understand what you mean by this statement. are you just not a fan of 22's? or is there a particular style that you've seen and nothing else comes close to it? |
Both.
Post Title: Re: (ATSELLAB)
Posted by: EcstaSPT at 6:18 AM 7/14/2009
| Quote, originally posted by ATSELLAB » |
| EcstaSPT's just mad, he's too embarassed to even list his ride on his profile. |
Mad? Oh noes I don't have my car listed, sure got me there. I'm not the one getting a case of Sandy V because everyone isn't kissing your a** telling you how good they look.
It's a 2006 M45 with all the options!!!! Happy now?
Modified by EcstaSPT at 6:25 AM 7/14/2009
Post Title: Re: (ATSELLAB)
Posted by: bigp100 at 7:36 AM 7/14/2009
| Quote, originally posted by EcstaSPT » |
| The more pics I see, the worse they look. |
| Quote, originally posted by bigp100 » |
| ya, I'm loving em. they fit perfect no rubbing at all and i had 5 people in the car Saturday night. i picked up 4 strippers with fake tits and for some reason they like the wheels. It must be the big Ghetto-ness of them. |
Opinions have to have a reason? That's a new one to me. I've always hated oversized wheels (as in 3-4 inches over OEM, not 1-2 inch) as well as the VIP look.
If you say that about my car, I really don't care. More power to you chief. It's funny how people post pictures expecting praise and conformity from everyone, yet get butt-hurt when others say something different. I guess I can add you do that category.
Post Title: Re: (OneOfOne)
Posted by: bigp100 at 8:51 AM 7/14/2009
| Quote, originally posted by OneOfOne » |
| these guys dont care about anything except the look. that has nothing to do with the performance of the car at all. youre never going to convince them that what they did makes no sense whatsoever. its just like fools sitting in a strip club looking at fake tits and thinking how good they look. its a free country and we can do whatever we like and we do regardless of whether it makes sense or not. |
First off, the wheels affect the acceleration/braking so little i cant even tell. The car handles better. I don't know what car you've been driving but my M45 isn't exactly a rocket ship and i didn't foresee me heading to the track at any point in time. Whatever performance is being affected I'm unaware of it because daily driving is no different.
What do looking at fake tits at a strip club have to do with the ride of a car with wheels? That analogy = FAIL
Post Title: Re: (bigp100)
Posted by: ATSELLAB at 8:58 AM 7/14/2009
I got my a** handed to me by an M5 the other day. Now thats a machine for ya.
Post Title: Re: (EcstaSPT)
Posted by: bigp100 at 9:10 AM 7/14/2009
Its more of general manners then anything. you dont just flame threads b/c you dont like something. I thought you would know this as a smart ENGINEER. it didnt take you long to throw that one up there tho did it? Like you said: "If you say that about my car, I really don't care. More power to you chief".
I guess we can add you to the general hater category.
Post Title: Re: (bigp100)
Posted by: EcstaSPT at 9:35 AM 7/14/2009
| Quote, originally posted by bigp100 » |
| no, opinions don't need a reason. you just look like a dick tho when you say something looks bad and give no reasoning. It almost seems like jealousy. If you would've said from the start, "i don't really like those I'm not into the big wheel look". that would've worked instead of saying they're ghetto and the more you see the worse they look. Its more of general manners then anything. you dont just flame threads b/c you dont like something. I thought you would know this as a smart ENGINEER. it didnt take you long to throw that one up there tho did it? Like you said: "If you say that about my car, I really don't care. More power to you chief". |
Forgive me if my skills as an engineer don't translate into proper forum etiquette. Hater it is, carry on. 
Post Title: Re: (EcstaSPT)
Posted by: nadzak at 11:13 AM 7/14/2009
| Quote, originally posted by nadzak » |
| Guys, would a 22x9.5 with a 38 offset stick out? |
No. Should be perfect (slightly less than flush with the wheelwell).
Post Title: Re: (07sportm35)
Posted by: bigp100 at 11:43 AM 7/14/2009
| Quote, originally posted by 07sportm35 » |
No. Should be perfect (slightly less than flush with the wheelwell). |
THIS.
Post Title: Re: (bigp100)
Posted by: nadzak at 11:55 AM 7/14/2009
| Quote, originally posted by nadzak » |
| Even with the 9.5 inch size? It looks like you guys riding the 9 inch with 38 offset are almost flush. You think the .5 inch would stick out? |
Jesus man. Just answered your question with absolute educated clarity using math and real world examples. this is YOUR car I would not guess at such a thing of importance.
I have 9 inch wide +38mm wheels on the front of my car right now!
The half inch wich is about 12mm gets shared equally on both sides of the wheel with the same offset. +6mm on the inside, +6mm on the outside. +6mm equals about a 1/4 of a inch.
Wheel diameter has nothing to do with it. I have over a 1/4 inch between my wheelwell and the outer part of the wheel in the front as we speak, err type.
Now I'll say it again in bold english...NO.
Post Title: Re: (07sportm35)
Posted by: nadzak at 2:38 PM 7/14/2009
| Quote, originally posted by nadzak » |
| Wow buddy, no need to get erected, ah? But anyways, your assistance is greatly appreciated and thanks much for the help. I am going to get my 22's now without worrying about fitment issues. |
You will end up being perfectly flush with the wheelwells. Right now I am 6mm inside of the front wheelwells on my car. You will be adding 6mm on the outer and inner part of your wheels referenced to mine.
Good luck. I hope they come out great. BTW What kind of wheel?
Oh, make sure you do a mild drop if at all(Tein HT's).
Post Title: Re: (07sportm35)
Posted by: nadzak at 3:21 PM 7/14/2009
| Quote, originally posted by nadzak » |
| It is the Torq Thrust Wheels, muscle car look. I am already dropped on Eibachs with the stock FX20's, so I hope it sits as nice with the 22's. We'll see. Ordering today or tomorrow. Once I install, I'll post photos. |
Lowered on Eibachs kinda scares me bud with that offset. I'd rather see you with a +43mm or higher offset with that drop. I think you'll rub with 9.5 wide +38mm and dropped on Eibachs. It won't hurt to take 'er in a 1/4 inch.
Post Title: Re: (07sportm35)
Posted by: nadzak at 5:30 PM 7/14/2009
| Quote, originally posted by nadzak » |
| Hey, 07sportm35, hate to be dwelling to much on this topic, but one more question: since you say that the front will fit the the 22x9.5 with a +38, can i fit a 22x9.5 with a +30 or so on the back? Tha would give me sort of a staggered look if possible. |
+38mm is as far negative as you can go without sticking outside of the body of the car with 9.5 inch wide wheels on the front or back. As far as "flush with the wheelswells" the front and the back are the same.
NO!
Post Title: Re: (07sportm35)
Posted by: nadzak at 12:45 PM 7/15/2009
| Quote, originally posted by micmicmotorbike » |
| wheels look too big for the car...almost like a 4x4. reminds me of some impala's i saw down south with wheels that were so big it raised the car. also think there isn't enough tire. doesn't really look VIP. |
There is no VIP in that car. VIP has to be slammed (preferably on air), has to have deep dishes. But I dont think the OP was going for the VIP look.
I think with a slight drop, 22's would look really good. Right now it looks 4x4. I put my old 20's on my M and they look small. 22's fill the wheel well, but it also raised the car.
Drop it OP, i bet it would look really good.
Post Title: Re: (micmicmotorbike)
Posted by: New2Import at 7:03 PM 7/17/2009
| Quote, originally posted by micmicmotorbike » |
| wheels look too big for the car...almost like a 4x4. reminds me of some impala's i saw down south with wheels that were so big it raised the car. also think there isn't enough tire. doesn't really look VIP. |
You can see I wouldnt even put a 22 on a much larger car. Its only looks and Im a performance gear head. I had a another SS with 22s and sold it. It was a dog off the line and only a cruiser with stock gears. Now if you go in and change the gear on the M I would rock some 22s staggered in billet or forged. BTW Ive yet to see a M on billets. Some BonSpeed or Intros would be extra nice you think.
Modified by New2Import at 7:14 PM 7/17/2009
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Posted by: SICK-M35 at 8:30 PM 7/17/2009
It is riding horrible. Rough, steering shaking, loud etc...any suggestions?
Post Title: Re: (nadzak)
Posted by: Petrol head at 8:42 PM 7/17/2009
With an older M 45 i am aware that this is a car that you have to run 20 , if not you are not looking for ride quality and looks you are giving up one we all know what that is ....the same rule applies for the newer ones ...
20 inch looks great (ITS NOT A 300 C dub edition )
take a look at mine sitting on Auto Couture maq...
Modified by Petrol head at 10:49 PM 7/17/2009
Post Title: Re: (Petrol head) my ride on 22's
Posted by: SICK-M35 at 8:54 PM 7/17/2009
Dou you know what I can try and do to make my ride better with 22's on my M35
Post Title: Re: 22"s Gotta love them (gigatt)
Posted by: SICK-M35 at 9:00 PM 7/17/2009
I just put 22's on my M35 and it is riding horrible.
Can you give me any suggestions on what I can do to fix it?
Steering whell is shaking, rough loud
Post Title: Re: (Petrol head) my ride on 22's (SICK-M35)
Posted by: Petrol head at 9:00 PM 7/17/2009
| Quote, originally posted by SICK-M35 » |
| hey bro Dou you know what I can try and do to make my ride better with 22's on my M35 |
only then i can try and help
Post Title: Re: (micmicmotorbike)
Posted by: SICK-M35 at 9:05 PM 7/17/2009
i just put 22's on my m35 and it is riding horrible
Any suggestions? steering whell shaking, loud, rough ride?
Post Title: Re: (Petrol head)
Posted by: SICK-M35 at 9:11 PM 7/17/2009
I have 22" strada...just put them on today. I have 245/30/22
I am sick right now at the decision. I think the place that put them on has know clue what they were doing. That was obv. my fault for going there.
Why is my steering whell shaking?
Post Title: Re: (SICK-M35)
Posted by: Petrol head at 9:15 PM 7/17/2009
i am lost for words , take them back and ask for a down size in rims size tell them that they touch , or find an excuse - most rim shop will not take them back since they are mounted - do you have pictures ?
Post Title: Re: (Petrol head)
Posted by: New2Import at 5:25 AM 7/18/2009
| Quote, originally posted by Petrol head » |
| that is another reason why cheaper after market rims are s*** , they shake and never wil replace the oem's . i am lost for words , take them back and ask for a down size in rims size tell them that they touch , or find an excuse - most rim shop will not take them back since they are mounted - do you have pictures ? |
No doubt these are gravity-cast hugely heavy wheels (i.e., low quality). To maintain overall circumference consistent with OE, you'll need to go with a preposterously low aspect ratio tire with a 22" wheel, which will harshen your ride and make both wheels and tires waaaay too suceptible to damage from potholes and other road hazards.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but you should be aware of drawbacks attendant to selecting extreme wheels such as this. Me, I'd run from these puppies as fast as I can.
Post Title: Re: (Petrol head)
Posted by: szhosain at 1:26 PM 7/19/2009
Most cheap wheels don't pass this simple test.
Z
Post Title: Re: (SICK-M35)
Posted by: bigp100 at 9:41 AM 7/20/2009
I guess everything about the new Escalade is "ghetto" huh since it has chrome factory 22's, tint, chrome finish all over the car....
To the OP, the car looks nice.
Post Title: Re: (NightRiderQ45)
Posted by: New2Import at 12:23 PM 7/22/2009
| Quote, originally posted by NightRiderQ45 » |
| Once again, what makes a rim look "ghetto"? If you are using that term, please explain what you mean....if not shut up! I guess everything about the new Escalade is "ghetto" huh since it has chrome factory 22's, tint, chrome finish all over the car.... To the OP, the car looks nice. |
| Quote, originally posted by New2Import » |
| We are talking about plus sizes on cars. A SUV is a different story. Now add 30" wheels to a Escalade and thats too much. Far as I would go on that would be a 26". 22s are too small IMO for that Caddy |
So if factory 22's are to small in your opinion wouldn't you agree that 18's or 19's on this car are too small? 26's are the biggest wheel you can put on an Escalade b4 you have to roll fenders or lift it, and it just so happens that 22's are the biggest you can fit on an M w/o modifications. So the only diff is one being a car and one being an SUV? So you think huge wheel gap looks good on cars but not on suv's.? I realize i could do 20's and lower it but its already too close too the ground for me.
P.S. those modular society's are sick
Modified by bigp100 at 4:51 PM 7/22/2009
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