however I received the fine and it was 132$
what's up with this?
now according to dmv, http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/d12/vc27315.htm
it shoudl be no more than 20$ for the 1st offense
Post Title: FN-QR
Posted by: Otto MCR at 6:50 PM 6/30/2009

let's not turn this into your personal quest for self empowerment over the internet. I am just curious as to what others have experienced
Post Title: Re: FN-QR (Fenvy)
Posted by: Red coupe at 2:14 AM 7/1/2009
| Quote, originally posted by Fenvy » |
| that's not what I asked |
Honestly what do you want from us? Why not ask the people who wrote the bill.. call the number on the ticket or the local PD and ask them.
And wear your seat belt... not only is it safer, and the law...
Its just better. I remember once my mom was being a mom and making sure I always wear my seat belt. I basically told her if anything I want more seatbelt, like a harness... Stock seats do a bad enough job of holding you still with out getting rid of the belt too.
BTW, did you SN used to be loveless?
Post Title: Re: ticket for no seatbelt 27315 (Fenvy)
Posted by: MinisterofDOOM at 2:23 AM 7/1/2009
| Quote, originally posted by Red coupe » |
| Stock seats do a bad enough job of holding you still with out getting rid of the belt too. |
Exactly. I can't stand driving without a seatbelt on. It bothers me so much that, yes, I am perfect and always use it. Unless I'm on some horrible rough dirt road that causes it to lock up too much.
Post Title: Re: ticket for no seatbelt 27315 (MinisterofDOOM)
Posted by: MellowS13 at 3:14 AM 7/1/2009
| Quote, originally posted by MinisterofDOOM » |
| Holy crap $132. Maybe they screwed something up processing the fine? Go to the court and find out. Exactly. I can't stand driving without a seatbelt on. |
I would call the local PD and find out why.
Post Title: Re: ticket for no seatbelt 27315 (MellowS13)
Posted by: Red coupe at 3:19 AM 7/1/2009
| Quote, originally posted by MellowS13 » |
yeah I feel awkward if the car is on and I'm not wearing a seatbelt. I would call the local PD and find out why. |
After that short trip I noticed everyone in our van went back to wearing them all the time. They are not that inconvenient.
I even like when mine locks, other then when I have to reach something. The car just feels better when you are strapped into it.
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Posted by: AZ89two4Tsx at 4:22 AM 7/1/2009
| Quote, originally posted by AZ89two4Tsx » |
| I agree |
Seriously though, they just instituted the seatbelt thing here in florida.
I think they said it's like $20, but up to $150 including court costs. I dunno..
Call the court house or whatever number is on the ticket.
Post Title: Re: (PoorManQ45)
Posted by: breadbox at 6:10 AM 7/1/2009
Also there are tons of commercials for the legal limit of Blood alcohol content
saying Over the limit, under arrest. However, in the real world you can go down for being the legal limit. .08 while driving=under arrest
Isn't this kinda of wrong?
Post Title: Re: (breadbox)
Posted by: numbnuts240 at 6:12 AM 7/1/2009
Post Title:
Posted by: PoorManQ45 at 6:22 AM 7/1/2009
| Quote, originally posted by DrifterXRPS13 » |
| good info cumguzzlemagee. |
DAAAMMMNNNN YYYYOOOUUUU..
Post Title: Re: FN-QR (Red coupe)
Posted by: ScrapMetal at 12:34 PM 7/1/2009
| Quote, originally posted by Red coupe » |
| And wear your seat belt... not only is it safer, and the law... |
Just because it's a law, doesn't make it right. The state doesn't have to threaten me with a $120+ ticket for me to realize that not wearing my seat
belt is dangerous(for me). I wear my seat belt because I want to, not because I have to.
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Posted by: Nismo ZJ at 3:58 PM 7/1/2009
| Quote, originally posted by Metaru_Gia » |
Just because it's a law, doesn't make it right. |
Besides, read whats around those words and realize that my whole point was that it being the law is definitely not the only reason.
| Quote, originally posted by breadbox » |
| However, in the real world you can go down for being the legal limit. .08 while driving=under arrest Isn't this kinda of wrong? |
BAC is just how much alcohol is in your blood, not how drunk you are. The guys who write the laws found .08 to be where most people are starting to become a danger, but what if some light weight little girl is obviously drunk but under the limit? Just let her go drive drunk because the number wasn't right?
Post Title: FN-QR
Posted by: numbnuts240 at 4:41 PM 7/1/2009
My ticket for not wearing a seat belt was $80. It was total BS though because I always wear a seat belt. It's programmed into me so well, that I'll even put it on when knowing my sole purpose of hopping into the car is to get laid. 
Post Title: FN-QR
Posted by: numbnuts240 at 5:25 PM 7/1/2009

And I thought the last part of your sentence said fapface and not "pface
Post Title: Re: FN-QR (Red coupe)
Posted by: Loki at 8:51 PM 7/1/2009
| Quote, originally posted by Red coupe » |
I know... that's what otto asked. Honestly what do you want from us? Why not ask the people who wrote the bill.. call the number on the ticket or the local PD and ask them. And wear your seat belt... not only is it safer, and the law...
|
To each his own in this case, sometimes your lucky sometime you pay with your life.
Post Title: Re: FN-QR (numbnuts240)
Posted by: Red coupe at 9:47 PM 7/1/2009
| Quote, originally posted by numbnuts240 » |
| his point is that he knows it's unsafe, but why does he have to fear being penalized for partaking in a practice (not wearing his belt) when the only person at risk of injury is himself? anything else to be said by me after that statement is going to be completely off topic and would really belong in the politics section, so i will stop here. |
I don't care and it doesn't matter, go cry to the libertarian party...
Philosophize as much as you want, then come back to reality where your ticket will be waiting. The law is the law. Follow it, break it and stop b****ing about the consequence, move somewhere else or doing something more productive about it then b****ing on the internet.
So tired of people breaking laws that they know about, then complaining on the internet because of how it should be.
Post Title: Re: FN-QR (Red coupe)
Posted by: Dire91 at 10:00 PM 7/1/2009
| Quote, originally posted by Fenvy » |
| Right, I am sure you're perfect and have always worn seatbelt, |
Actually, I cant even remember a time when I didn't wear one. Ive made it a habit... I dont even think about it anymore.
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Posted by: PoorManQ45 at 5:38 AM 7/2/2009
I mean, If an officer needs to generate revenue couldn't he pull over anyone and claim they weren't wearing their seatbelt. It's the officer's word against your's, and the officer's would is usually accepted.
I know when I was stupid enough not to wear my seat belt, when I got pulled over for speeding I slipped it on quickly. If the officer comes to the window and you are wearing your seatbelt how can the officer still write you a ticket for no seatbelt?
Just hoping there isn't any abuse 
Post Title: Re: (PoorManQ45)
Posted by: MinisterofDOOM at 5:44 AM 7/2/2009
I know guys who hate seatbelts passionately and will do all manner of awkward things to make it appear that they are wearing the belt when they're not (sit on it, pull it across but not buckle it...all of which beg the question...if you're bothering with that, why not just wear the damn thing anyway?)
Post Title: Re: ticket for no seatbelt 27315 (Fenvy)
Posted by: Bubba1 at 6:30 AM 7/2/2009
| Quote, originally posted by Fenvy » |
| I got a 27315 (d) (i) vc for no seatbelt however I received the fine and it was 132$ what's up with this? it shoudl be no more than 20$ for the 1st offense |
It is a bit pricey given the offense, but it's surprising that it takes a law to get people to excercise common sense. But what really strikes me odd that there are states that will ticket automobile drivers without seatbelts yet don't require motorcyclists to wear crash helmets, which seems more dangerous. I won't name names but one state that does that begins with the letter PENNSYLVANIA.
Post Title: Re: ticket for no seatbelt 27315 (Bubba1)
Posted by: numbnuts240 at 6:55 AM 7/2/2009
hey mod...i just got pulled over a couple days ago for no belt but my problem was that my should belt is an automatic track sliding bastard that is broken but i still was wearing my lap belt...he still gave me a ticket for no belt! what gives?
Post Title: Re: (DrifterXRPS13)
Posted by: numbnuts240 at 7:06 AM 7/2/2009

| Quote, originally posted by Red coupe » |
OOHHHH THATS HIS POINT! I don't care and it doesn't matter, go cry to the libertarian party... Philosophize as much as you want, then come back to reality where your ticket will be waiting. The law is the law. Follow it, break it and stop b****ing about the consequence, move somewhere else or doing something more productive about it then b****ing on the internet. So tired of people breaking laws that they know about, then complaining on the internet because of how it should be. |
Oooo, somebody got a little, butt hurt. We get it bro, you love the "law".
Post Title: Re: FN-QR (Metaru_Gia)
Posted by: numbnuts240 at 7:10 AM 7/2/2009
| Quote, originally posted by Metaru_Gia » |
Oooo, somebody got a little, butt hurt. We get it bro, you love the "law". |
i bit my tongue on that one. my e-penor is in retirement.
Post Title: Re: FN-QR (numbnuts240)
Posted by: ScrapMetal at 7:18 AM 7/2/2009
.
| Quote, originally posted by numbnuts240 » |
stick it to the man |
Damn straight.
I don't know what that thing in your sig is, but it looks fun and delicious.
Post Title: Re: (MinisterofDOOM)
Posted by: PoorManQ45 at 7:42 AM 7/2/2009
| Quote, originally posted by MinisterofDOOM » |
| Every officer I've ever heard comment on that question has said that they can usually see when you put your seatbelt on after they've stopped you. I'm sure it varies depending on the design (stupid GM on-the-seat shoulder belts are probably easier to hide...and I imagine you could stealthily put on your lap belt if you're in a car with power shoulder belts). |
Makes sense. I'm just used to my car with limo tint.
If I see an officer even change lanes behind me the belt would go on 
Now I just wear it everywhere.
My other question, How do you contest a ticket if you truely were wearing your seatbelt and the officer made a mistake? It seems that this is one of those things wear if you're accused you're guilty 
Post Title: Re: FN-QR (Metaru_Gia)
Posted by: numbnuts240 at 7:47 AM 7/2/2009
| Quote, originally posted by Metaru_Gia » |
| I don't know what that thing in your sig is, but it looks fun and delicious. |
well, according to Beancooker, it's a caramel corn encrusted dildo. do you still think it looks fun and delicious?
Post Title: Re: FN-QR (numbnuts240)
Posted by: ScrapMetal at 8:18 AM 7/2/2009
| Quote, originally posted by Metaru_Gia » |
Well It still looks delicious, and it could be fun if I had a more open mind. |
Welcome to our lair...
Post Title: Re: FN-QR (DrifterXRPS13)
Posted by: numbnuts240 at 8:32 AM 7/2/2009
| Quote, originally posted by Metaru_Gia » |
Oooo, somebody got a little, butt hurt. We get it bro, you love the "law". |
A lot.
Post Title: Re: FN-QR (Red coupe)
Posted by: Koshin at 6:27 PM 7/2/2009
the law is the law...if you dont want to wear your seatbelt, deal with the consequences...
Post Title: Re: ticket for no seatbelt 27315 (MinisterofDOOM)
Posted by: flohtingPoint at 6:34 PM 7/2/2009
| Quote, originally posted by MinisterofDOOM » |
| Exactly. I can't stand driving without a seatbelt on. It bothers me so much that, yes, I am perfect and always use it. Unless I'm on some horrible rough dirt road that causes it to lock up too much. |
Same, I cant even turn the motor over w/out my seatbelt on, even in the Corolla where I have to hook up all 5 points of my harness. Something feels wrong if I dont wear it.
Post Title: Re: ticket for no seatbelt 27315 (flohtingPoint)
Posted by: Red coupe at 11:31 PM 7/2/2009
| Quote, originally posted by flohtingPoint » |
| Something feels wrong if I dont wear it. |
I just like to be ready for spontaneous hoonage.
Post Title: Re: (DrifterXRPS13)
Posted by: PapaSmurf2k3 at 9:03 AM 7/3/2009
| Quote, originally posted by DrifterXRPS13 » |
hey mod...i just got pulled over a couple days ago for no belt but my problem was that my should belt is an automatic track sliding bastard that is broken but i still was wearing my lap belt...he still gave me a ticket for no belt! what gives? |
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