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Post Title: ticket for no seatbelt 27315
Posted by: Fenvy at 6:47 PM 6/30/2009

I got a 27315 (d) (i) vc for no seatbelt

however I received the fine and it was 132$

what's up with this?

now according to dmv, http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/d12/vc27315.htm

it shoudl be no more than 20$ for the 1st offense



Post Title: FN-QR
Posted by: Otto MCR at 6:50 PM 6/30/2009



Why the f weren't you wearing it in the first place?



Post Title: Re: FN-QR (Otto MCR)
Posted by: Fenvy at 2:08 AM 7/1/2009

Right, I am sure you're perfect and have always worn seatbelt, always signaled, never sped and never operated a phone while driving.

let's not turn this into your personal quest for self empowerment over the internet. I am just curious as to what others have experienced



Post Title: Re: FN-QR (Fenvy)
Posted by: Red coupe at 2:14 AM 7/1/2009



Quote, originally posted by Fenvy »
that's not what I asked

I know... that's what otto asked.

Honestly what do you want from us? Why not ask the people who wrote the bill.. call the number on the ticket or the local PD and ask them.

And wear your seat belt... not only is it safer, and the law...
Its just better. I remember once my mom was being a mom and making sure I always wear my seat belt. I basically told her if anything I want more seatbelt, like a harness... Stock seats do a bad enough job of holding you still with out getting rid of the belt too.


BTW, did you SN used to be loveless?




Post Title: Re: ticket for no seatbelt 27315 (Fenvy)
Posted by: MinisterofDOOM at 2:23 AM 7/1/2009



Holy crap $132. Maybe they screwed something up processing the fine? Go to the court and find out.

Quote, originally posted by Red coupe »
Stock seats do a bad enough job of holding you still with out getting rid of the belt too.

Exactly. I can't stand driving without a seatbelt on. It bothers me so much that, yes, I am perfect and always use it. Unless I'm on some horrible rough dirt road that causes it to lock up too much.



Post Title: Re: ticket for no seatbelt 27315 (MinisterofDOOM)
Posted by: MellowS13 at 3:14 AM 7/1/2009



Quote, originally posted by MinisterofDOOM »
Holy crap $132. Maybe they screwed something up processing the fine? Go to the court and find out.

Exactly. I can't stand driving without a seatbelt on.


yeah I feel awkward if the car is on and I'm not wearing a seatbelt.

I would call the local PD and find out why.



Post Title: Re: ticket for no seatbelt 27315 (MellowS13)
Posted by: Red coupe at 3:19 AM 7/1/2009



Quote, originally posted by MellowS13 »

yeah I feel awkward if the car is on and I'm not wearing a seatbelt.

I would call the local PD and find out why.

Yeah, I was in NH not too long ago and there are no seat belt laws. Being from California we were kinda amazed and took ours off some what as a novelty.

After that short trip I noticed everyone in our van went back to wearing them all the time. They are not that inconvenient.

I even like when mine locks, other then when I have to reach something. The car just feels better when you are strapped into it.



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Posted by: AZ89two4Tsx at 4:22 AM 7/1/2009



I agree



Post Title: Re: (AZ89two4Tsx)
Posted by: Red coupe at 4:40 AM 7/1/2009

Quote, originally posted by AZ89two4Tsx »
I agree
You post too much.



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Posted by: AZ89two4Tsx at 4:41 AM 7/1/2009

I happen to be very conservative with my



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Posted by: AZ89two4Tsx at 4:41 AM 7/1/2009

posts.



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Posted by: PoorManQ45 at 5:44 AM 7/1/2009

^^^ LOL.

Seriously though, they just instituted the seatbelt thing here in florida.

I think they said it's like $20, but up to $150 including court costs. I dunno..

Call the court house or whatever number is on the ticket.



Post Title: Re: (PoorManQ45)
Posted by: breadbox at 6:10 AM 7/1/2009



Virginia has had click it or ticket for as long as I can remember.

Also there are tons of commercials for the legal limit of Blood alcohol content
saying Over the limit, under arrest. However, in the real world you can go down for being the legal limit. .08 while driving=under arrest
Isn't this kinda of wrong?



Post Title: Re: (breadbox)
Posted by: numbnuts240 at 6:12 AM 7/1/2009



they can arrest you for being under. it's all at the discretion of the arresting officer.



Post Title: Re: (numbnuts240)
Posted by: breadbox at 6:13 AM 7/1/2009

I'm surprised everyone doesn't get tased regardless of offense then.





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Posted by: PoorManQ45 at 6:22 AM 7/1/2009



"Don't taze me Bro'"



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Posted by: Street1 at 6:29 AM 7/1/2009

i recieved one driveing in sc...wasn't quite that much but sure as hell wasn't $20...it was up there...some states have different prices on fines i would agree with the statements abovee just call the number they provide..



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Posted by: DrifterXRPS13 at 8:10 AM 7/1/2009

good info cumguzzlemagee.



Post Title: Re: (DrifterXRPS13)
Posted by: Street1 at 9:13 AM 7/1/2009

Quote, originally posted by DrifterXRPS13 »
good info cumguzzlemagee.

DAAAMMMNNNN YYYYOOOUUUU..



Post Title: Re: FN-QR (Red coupe)
Posted by: ScrapMetal at 12:34 PM 7/1/2009



Quote, originally posted by Red coupe »
And wear your seat belt... not only is it safer, and the law...

Just because it's a law, doesn't make it right. The state doesn't have to threaten me with a $120+ ticket for me to realize that not wearing my seat
belt is dangerous(for me). I wear my seat belt because I want to, not because I have to.



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Posted by: Nismo ZJ at 3:58 PM 7/1/2009



I enjoy my life so I've always worn a seatbelt. I like when it locks in my Miata. It's like I have a harness. Like others have said, either call the number on the ticket or go to the court. Find out if there are any other circumstances that lead to the higher ticket.



Post Title: Re: FN-QR (Metaru_Gia)
Posted by: Red coupe at 4:32 PM 7/1/2009

Quote, originally posted by Metaru_Gia »

Just because it's a law, doesn't make it right.


Doesn't nessisarily make it right... but it does make it the best thing to do if you don't want to get a ticket.

Besides, read whats around those words and realize that my whole point was that it being the law is definitely not the only reason.
Quote, originally posted by breadbox »
However, in the real world you can go down for being the legal limit. .08 while driving=under arrest
Isn't this kinda of wrong?

No not really. It does open the door for some potential abuse but that is supposed to be what the courts are their for.

BAC is just how much alcohol is in your blood, not how drunk you are. The guys who write the laws found .08 to be where most people are starting to become a danger, but what if some light weight little girl is obviously drunk but under the limit? Just let her go drive drunk because the number wasn't right?



Post Title: FN-QR
Posted by: numbnuts240 at 4:41 PM 7/1/2009



his point is that he knows it's unsafe, but why does he have to fear being penalized for partaking in a practice (not wearing his belt) when the only person at risk of injury is himself? anything else to be said by me after that statement is going to be completely off topic and would really belong in the politics section, so i will stop here.



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Posted by: krimsonviper at 5:17 PM 7/1/2009

Actually not wearing your seatbelt isn't just for your own safety. People being ejected out of their seat in a collision and causing other drivers to dodge your fat a** flying at them causes other accidents.

My ticket for not wearing a seat belt was $80. It was total BS though because I always wear a seat belt. It's programmed into me so well, that I'll even put it on when knowing my sole purpose of hopping into the car is to get laid.



Post Title: FN-QR
Posted by: numbnuts240 at 5:25 PM 7/1/2009



well, in your case, you really don't need a full range of movement just to fap

Modified by numbnuts240 at 4:32 AM 7/2/2009



Post Title: Re: FN-QR (numbnuts240)
Posted by: krimsonviper at 5:34 PM 7/1/2009

WHOA who said anything about fapping? I had Maribel back there!

And I thought the last part of your sentence said fapface and not "pface




Post Title: Re: FN-QR (Red coupe)
Posted by: Loki at 8:51 PM 7/1/2009



Quote, originally posted by Red coupe »

I know... that's what otto asked.

Honestly what do you want from us? Why not ask the people who wrote the bill.. call the number on the ticket or the local PD and ask them.

And wear your seat belt... not only is it safer, and the law...
Its just better. I remember once my mom was being a mom and making sure I always wear my seat belt. I basically told her if anything I want more seatbelt, like a harness... Stock seats do a bad enough job of holding you still with out getting rid of the belt too.


BTW, did you SN used to be loveless?

You should see this girl I (unfortunately) work with. No license or permit, always speeding/reckless driving, frequent pot user, frequently driving while intoxicated, and never wears a seat belt. I sometimes inform her of how absurdly stupid she is. She says she doesn't wear it cause one of her (long since shot to death) friends once got in a horrendous accident in which she claims he would have died if he had been wearing his seat belt. How in God's name people like this are alive is beyond me. The only thing I can come up with is the Law of Inverse Value



Post Title: Re: FN-QR (Loki)
Posted by: Paul Wall at 8:56 PM 7/1/2009

I ALWAYS wear my seat belts, But I am freinds with some one who goes off roading a lot. he once flipped his truck over and it rolled down the hill. He claims had he had a seat belt on he would have been dead, So he never EVER wears one since that.

To each his own in this case, sometimes your lucky sometime you pay with your life.



Post Title: Re: FN-QR (numbnuts240)
Posted by: Red coupe at 9:47 PM 7/1/2009



Quote, originally posted by numbnuts240 »
his point is that he knows it's unsafe, but why does he have to fear being penalized for partaking in a practice (not wearing his belt) when the only person at risk of injury is himself? anything else to be said by me after that statement is going to be completely off topic and would really belong in the politics section, so i will stop here.

OOHHHH THATS HIS POINT!

I don't care and it doesn't matter, go cry to the libertarian party...

Philosophize as much as you want, then come back to reality where your ticket will be waiting. The law is the law. Follow it, break it and stop b****ing about the consequence, move somewhere else or doing something more productive about it then b****ing on the internet.

So tired of people breaking laws that they know about, then complaining on the internet because of how it should be.



Post Title: Re: FN-QR (Red coupe)
Posted by: Dire91 at 10:00 PM 7/1/2009



^



Post Title: Re: FN-QR (Fenvy)
Posted by: Otto MCR at 12:29 AM 7/2/2009

Quote, originally posted by Fenvy »
Right, I am sure you're perfect and have always worn seatbelt,

Actually, I cant even remember a time when I didn't wear one. Ive made it a habit... I dont even think about it anymore.



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Posted by: PoorManQ45 at 5:38 AM 7/2/2009



Question: How do you prove you were wearing your seatbelt?

I mean, If an officer needs to generate revenue couldn't he pull over anyone and claim they weren't wearing their seatbelt. It's the officer's word against your's, and the officer's would is usually accepted.

I know when I was stupid enough not to wear my seat belt, when I got pulled over for speeding I slipped it on quickly. If the officer comes to the window and you are wearing your seatbelt how can the officer still write you a ticket for no seatbelt?

Just hoping there isn't any abuse



Post Title: Re: (PoorManQ45)
Posted by: MinisterofDOOM at 5:44 AM 7/2/2009



Every officer I've ever heard comment on that question has said that they can usually see when you put your seatbelt on after they've stopped you. I'm sure it varies depending on the design (stupid GM on-the-seat shoulder belts are probably easier to hide...and I imagine you could stealthily put on your lap belt if you're in a car with power shoulder belts).

I know guys who hate seatbelts passionately and will do all manner of awkward things to make it appear that they are wearing the belt when they're not (sit on it, pull it across but not buckle it...all of which beg the question...if you're bothering with that, why not just wear the damn thing anyway?)



Post Title: Re: ticket for no seatbelt 27315 (Fenvy)
Posted by: Bubba1 at 6:30 AM 7/2/2009



Quote, originally posted by Fenvy »
I got a 27315 (d) (i) vc for no seatbelt

however I received the fine and it was 132$

what's up with this?

it shoudl be no more than 20$ for the 1st offense


It is a bit pricey given the offense, but it's surprising that it takes a law to get people to excercise common sense. But what really strikes me odd that there are states that will ticket automobile drivers without seatbelts yet don't require motorcyclists to wear crash helmets, which seems more dangerous. I won't name names but one state that does that begins with the letter PENNSYLVANIA.



Post Title: Re: ticket for no seatbelt 27315 (Bubba1)
Posted by: numbnuts240 at 6:55 AM 7/2/2009



mark (tigerse-r) got a ticket on his bike for not having his visor down. he had something in his eye, flipped it up to handle it and got pulled over before he got a chance to flip it down. what kind of bs is that? how about all the guys that cruise around without a full face helmet or no helmet at all? i never see or hear about them getting their balls broken.



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Posted by: DrifterXRPS13 at 7:02 AM 7/2/2009

in illinois all you have to have is eye protection for riding...and when your wearing a helmet they really dont' care if you have your visor down or not...i've ridden by cops all the time with my visor up when i'm just cruising around town

hey mod...i just got pulled over a couple days ago for no belt but my problem was that my should belt is an automatic track sliding bastard that is broken but i still was wearing my lap belt...he still gave me a ticket for no belt! what gives?



Post Title: Re: (DrifterXRPS13)
Posted by: numbnuts240 at 7:06 AM 7/2/2009



you're a person of color driving an integra, what more reason did you need



Post Title: Re: FN-QR (Red coupe)
Posted by: ScrapMetal at 7:08 AM 7/2/2009

Quote, originally posted by Red coupe »

OOHHHH THATS HIS POINT!

I don't care and it doesn't matter, go cry to the libertarian party...

Philosophize as much as you want, then come back to reality where your ticket will be waiting. The law is the law. Follow it, break it and stop b****ing about the consequence, move somewhere else or doing something more productive about it then b****ing on the internet.

So tired of people breaking laws that they know about, then complaining on the internet because of how it should be.

Oooo, somebody got a little, butt hurt. We get it bro, you love the "law".






Post Title: Re: FN-QR (Metaru_Gia)
Posted by: numbnuts240 at 7:10 AM 7/2/2009



Quote, originally posted by Metaru_Gia »

Oooo, somebody got a little, butt hurt. We get it bro, you love the "law".


i bit my tongue on that one. my e-penor is in retirement.



Post Title: Re: FN-QR (numbnuts240)
Posted by: ScrapMetal at 7:18 AM 7/2/2009



I need to learn from you Tito .



Post Title: Re: FN-QR (Metaru_Gia)
Posted by: numbnuts240 at 7:25 AM 7/2/2009

lesson number one, young grasshopper: stick it to the man



Post Title: Re: FN-QR (numbnuts240)
Posted by: ScrapMetal at 7:35 AM 7/2/2009

Quote, originally posted by numbnuts240 »
stick it to the man

Damn straight.

I don't know what that thing in your sig is, but it looks fun and delicious.



Post Title: Re: (MinisterofDOOM)
Posted by: PoorManQ45 at 7:42 AM 7/2/2009



Quote, originally posted by MinisterofDOOM »
Every officer I've ever heard comment on that question has said that they can usually see when you put your seatbelt on after they've stopped you. I'm sure it varies depending on the design (stupid GM on-the-seat shoulder belts are probably easier to hide...and I imagine you could stealthily put on your lap belt if you're in a car with power shoulder belts).

Makes sense. I'm just used to my car with limo tint.

If I see an officer even change lanes behind me the belt would go on

Now I just wear it everywhere.

My other question, How do you contest a ticket if you truely were wearing your seatbelt and the officer made a mistake? It seems that this is one of those things wear if you're accused you're guilty



Post Title: Re: FN-QR (Metaru_Gia)
Posted by: numbnuts240 at 7:47 AM 7/2/2009



Quote, originally posted by Metaru_Gia »
I don't know what that thing in your sig is, but it looks fun and delicious.

well, according to Beancooker, it's a caramel corn encrusted dildo. do you still think it looks fun and delicious?



Post Title: Re: FN-QR (numbnuts240)
Posted by: ScrapMetal at 8:18 AM 7/2/2009



Well It still looks delicious, and it could be fun if I had a more open mind.



Post Title: Re: FN-QR (Metaru_Gia)
Posted by: numbnuts240 at 8:21 AM 7/2/2009

hahaahhahhah



Post Title: Re: FN-QR (Metaru_Gia)
Posted by: DrifterXRPS13 at 8:22 AM 7/2/2009

Quote, originally posted by Metaru_Gia »
Well It still looks delicious, and it could be fun if I had a more open mind.

Welcome to our lair...



Post Title: Re: FN-QR (DrifterXRPS13)
Posted by: numbnuts240 at 8:32 AM 7/2/2009



we don't have cookies, but we did order pizza



Post Title: Re: FN-QR (numbnuts240)
Posted by: ScrapMetal at 8:35 AM 7/2/2009

The Meat Lover's pizza.



Post Title: Re: FN-QR (Metaru_Gia)
Posted by: numbnuts240 at 8:37 AM 7/2/2009

oh, you're going to fit riiiight in, or rather, someone's going to fit right in you



Post Title: Re: FN-QR (numbnuts240)
Posted by: ScrapMetal at 8:48 AM 7/2/2009





Post Title: Re: FN-QR (Metaru_Gia)
Posted by: Red coupe at 4:27 PM 7/2/2009

Quote, originally posted by Metaru_Gia »

Oooo, somebody got a little, butt hurt. We get it bro, you love the "law".


You suck at reading comprehension.

A lot.



Post Title: Re: FN-QR (Red coupe)
Posted by: Koshin at 6:27 PM 7/2/2009



it sounds like a few of you are getting but hurt....lol

the law is the law...if you dont want to wear your seatbelt, deal with the consequences...





Post Title: Re: ticket for no seatbelt 27315 (MinisterofDOOM)
Posted by: flohtingPoint at 6:34 PM 7/2/2009



Quote, originally posted by MinisterofDOOM »
Exactly. I can't stand driving without a seatbelt on. It bothers me so much that, yes, I am perfect and always use it. Unless I'm on some horrible rough dirt road that causes it to lock up too much.

Same, I cant even turn the motor over w/out my seatbelt on, even in the Corolla where I have to hook up all 5 points of my harness. Something feels wrong if I dont wear it.



Post Title: Re: ticket for no seatbelt 27315 (flohtingPoint)
Posted by: Red coupe at 11:31 PM 7/2/2009



Quote, originally posted by flohtingPoint »
Something feels wrong if I dont wear it.

I just like to be ready for spontaneous hoonage.



Post Title: Re: (DrifterXRPS13)
Posted by: PapaSmurf2k3 at 9:03 AM 7/3/2009



Quote, originally posted by DrifterXRPS13 »

hey mod...i just got pulled over a couple days ago for no belt but my problem was that my should belt is an automatic track sliding bastard that is broken but i still was wearing my lap belt...he still gave me a ticket for no belt! what gives?


my local Nissan dealership informed me that the automatic seatbelts in my 240 are under a lifetime warranty, cos its a safety issue. Go visit your dealer and see what they say.



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Posted by: DrifterXRPS13 at 9:08 AM 7/3/2009

Yea this was in my integra and acura has the same lifetime warrant for the same reason...i just have to call and make an appointment...i was just mad because he saw i was wearing a belt but not my shoulder belt...oh well..just have to get it fixed and then fight it in court.



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Posted by: EpicNightMayor at 5:00 PM 7/3/2009

I'll admit, I've been driving my mustang around since my 240's motor blew, and since it's not automatic, a lot of times I forget about it. I quickly notice when I check my speed, seatbelts of everyone in the car whenever I see a cop.




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