if youre building it just for power i would say its a toss up between the rb and 1j.... the rb is newer, and the 1j has the exhaust on the pass side = no bmc bull shlt.....
if youre building a road race/time attack/auto-x car, i would go with a f22c out of an s2000.
drift.... id probably go ka-t.
im gonna dream that obama isnt our president tonight.....
Post Title: Re: Datsun 510 Rb26dett or 1jz??? (j-z)
Posted by: white_ashes at 2:43 AM 4/19/2009
| Quote, originally posted by j-z » |
| ummmm..... how about you tell us what youre dreams of building this 510 are for??? street car with alot of power??? a track car? drift? what man??? if youre building it just for power i would say its a toss up between the rb and 1j.... the rb is newer, and the 1j has the exhaust on the pass side = no bmc bull shlt..... if youre building a road race/time attack/auto-x car, i would go with a f22c out of an s2000. drift.... id probably go ka-t. im gonna dream that obama isnt our president tonight..... |
mainly it would be street car and sometimes be for track but i want to not worry about stressing out the motor and i would be happy with 400-500hp and i think that the rb26dett or the 1jz can perform there easily and still take a beating and give me one too lol... also if i decide to go big i already have the motor there and dont need to swap motors again...
mainly for me i think that this would be an awesome swap no matter what motor i end up with cause i have never seen a 1jz or a rb26dett in a datsun 510 so woot woot!!! anyhow thanks guys for all the feedback and im going to jump on this build asap i just gotta strip down the 510 first and get rid of the truck motor thats already in there.... lol
Post Title: Re: Datsun 510 Rb26dett or 1jz??? (white_ashes)
Posted by: hbpignosePA at 6:04 AM 4/19/2009
first off you have unrealistic expectations, and obviously didnt do any research; so i doubt you have the experience, fab skills or money (well that maybe) to pull it off.
first off
your not going to find an RB26 for 2500- they run close to 4k
second, theres absolutely no point for a 600hp datsun 510
while they happen to be one of my favorite cars, all your going to accomplish is tearing the poor thing in two in the first launch. The chassis and the rear end (which you could change) will not support that much power unless you do some serious stiffening, and honestly its not worth it.
theres alot of guys who do Sr20det swaps who are scared outta there mind because the numbers they made with such a light chassis.
my vote: build N/A SR w carbs
old school ftmw
Modified by hbpignosePA at 9:53 AM 4/19/2009
Post Title:
Posted by: gregfarz78 at 6:41 AM 4/19/2009
-Kurt
Post Title: Re: (kscherbaum)
Posted by: cody180sx at 11:27 AM 4/19/2009
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Post Title: Re: (S13Teddy)
Posted by: deuce4Oh at 12:20 PM 4/19/2009
| Quote, originally posted by S13Teddy » |
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and oh... i didnt dream about obama not being president last night... i had a dream to where i was with two chicks in a conversion van going on a 3 hr trip to stay at a hotel and i didnt have any money LMAO <-----truth
Post Title: Re: (j-z)
Posted by: white_ashes at 3:23 PM 4/19/2009
| Quote, originally posted by j-z » |
| yeah youre def not going to be able to fit a straight 6 in there without ALOT of modification.... same goes for a V motor.... i say go with the f22c and do a full out all motor build... ITBS, cams, higher compression, springs, rods, the whole nine..... thats what i would do atleast.... and oh... i didnt dream about obama not being president last night... i had a dream to where i was with two chicks in a conversion van going on a 3 hr trip to stay at a hotel and i didnt have any money LMAO <-----truth |
ive already measured the engine bay and measured a rb26 and it seems to fit along with an extra 2 inches in the front and 1 3/4 in the back and that would be with the radiator so i know it will fit and the weight difference is not THAT much at all and ive seen a datsun 510 with 500+ hp and no modification to the frame so i dont think it will be a problem... im going to try it and if it doesnt work out i can always buy an r32 shell and drop it in! LOL anyhow im not really worried about the money situation i should be fine and i will probably run into problems and delays but in general i think it will be a fun swap! Thanks guys for all your flaming and input and ive decided to go with a rb26 and yes i can get it for $2300 thanks NICO!!!
Post Title: Re: (white_ashes)
Posted by: Lev_96_240sx at 6:57 PM 4/19/2009
and im done arguing with you, cuz its not likely you will ever update this to prove it like so many "OMG guys what kinda motor shoud i put in my whip to be straight gansta threads"
Post Title:
Posted by: evildky at 9:34 PM 4/19/2009
| Quote, originally posted by evildky » |
| the RM and 1JZ can be shoehorned in but are heavy and make things like radiator and intercoler clearance issues a hugr issue to work around, the SR weighs a couple hundred lbs less and will be a much better fit and preserve the weight bias of the car, mayeb even a CA swap, or the L20B with dual DCOE's |
echoing this.
Post Title: Re: (Mr1der)
Posted by: z210 at 3:51 PM 5/19/2009
for meput a modest and lightweight motor in it...
sr20
Post Title:
Posted by: evildky at 9:30 PM 6/7/2009
| Quote, originally posted by cody180sx » |
| people have done rb 510 all the time. rb25 for sure should be that much harder to get a rb26 in there |
Show me these people
Post Title: Re: (SxMachine)
Posted by: HowlerMonkey at 9:12 PM 8/5/2009
If you're going toyota, why not use an engine that fits like a 3sGTE since they can be made to handle 700hp or more.
This 3sgte put down 777hp.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wB2hVXchxCk
Modified by HowlerMonkey at 9:19 PM 8/5/2009
Post Title: 400HP in a 510
Posted by: datsunscom at 11:15 PM 10/27/2009
One thing often overlooked is how beefy a clutch you need with 500-700hp. At 450-500hp you can use a clutch that feels and engages much like a stock one. Really, check out a clutch that can handle over 500ft-lbs and it will likely be a b**** to use in a daily driver.
Post Title: Re: (HowlerMonkey)
Posted by: Kalypso at 12:17 AM 10/28/2009
| Quote, originally posted by datsunscom » |
| This stock VG30DETT made 335whp on pump gas and will soon be at 470+ (on pump gas) with a mild turbo upgrade. In a 2500lb car the enigne and trans aren't being stressed at all. It makes a nice daily driver + occasional track / auto-x / dragstrip toy. One thing often overlooked is how beefy a clutch you need with 500-700hp. At 450-500hp you can use a clutch that feels and engages much like a stock one. Really, check out a clutch that can handle over 500ft-lbs and it will likely be a b**** to use in a daily driver.
|
ca18, big fkin turbo, 510 drive shaft and 240 diff cut and weld.
trust me no r34 will get anywhere near your rear bumper.
(tops 2600 pounds not including driver.)
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