so here's how the story goes...

i've been into cars since around the time gone in 60 seconds came out (like '98-'99), i was in 7th grade. my older brother and i were going to get a car to build back in '01-'02, but could never find the right one. he eventually lost interest in cars and this is when i "discovered" the 240sx. i fell in love (lol) with the s13 fastback. i didn't even know what drifting was back then. i was 14 at the time so i decided to wait until i was 17 to get one when i had my license (now that i look back i shouldn't have waited ).

i ended up getting my 240sx in june '04, a month after my 17th bday (after a good 3-4 months of searching). 1992, 132,700 miles, 5 speed, base model, bone stock, little bit of rust, no mechanical problems, no body damage (except for a few door dings), clean carfax, ONE owner. paid $1600 cash.

picsha time...

when i first got the car

and more random pics

(current DD in the background)

rusty engine bay

then i started collecting some parts, starting with suspension stuff

new front 5-lug hubs and some hardware

z32 calipers/rotors/lines

all new suspension bolts

some jdm padding in the box lol

i had all the dings taken out professionally, pieces of tape to mark them off

finally on jack stands.. the decision was made to start tearing it apart in june '05 after my inspection sticker expired and i knew there was no chance in hell this thing was going to pass. so i said fcuk it.
(as you're reading this thread, keep in mind i have no previous automotive experience at all.)

"i can't see sh*t!!"

beadblasted headlight assembly

subframe/diff rustyness

more rusty sh*t underneath, the muffler goes here

painted calipers and other stuff

disassembly of the front end

dirty as HELL

"GTFO my engine bay!!"

KA coming out

obligatory engine bay shot

ahh, so much easier to take the rest of the crap out..

the ol' rusty KA, had to cut the downpipe since ALL of the studs/bolts/nuts holding the entire exhaust system together were rusted beyond hell

zomg RB25????

already has nismo FPR

not sure about the condition of the turbo..

broken exhaust manifold stud

cut up harness (not as bad as it looks though)

built a dolly with my dad
anyone wanting to know how i made the chassis dolly, here's my write up: http://forums.nicoclub.com/zerothread?id=284025

aaaand away for the winter (winter '05-'06 that is )

the rest of the car...

closet full of new parts





Post Title: Re: m tr4nch's restoration/build thread !! (m tr4nch)
Posted by: m tr4nch at 3:11 AM 4/16/2008

interior completely gutted, dry ice is awesome.. also stripping the excess seam sealer off everything

stripped engine bay. rusty and dirty as hell

rusty seams in front wheel wells

bottom of passenger side quarter panel

inside..

driver's side not nearly as bad..

burning the bushings out of the subframe

and so the rust attacking commences...

started grinding those front shock tower plates

this crap was way too deep and i could see stuff hiding under there still, so i decided to just drill it (both sides) off, good thing i did

sandblasted clean

one coat of rust bullet sprayed on

upper radiator support next.. there's a LOT of rust hiding sandwiched between here

got to sandblasting a little bit. here is my sandblasting outfit

after spraying with rust bullet..

new shock tower plates cut out and painted

front wheel wells and battery tray are next...

yes i know this cut-out is horrible, i drilled 4 holes and used my dad's sawzall with a POS blade and it came out like crap

battery tray patch cut out and welded up (i was a n00b at welding back then )

wire-wheeled all the rubber/grime out of the wheel wells

stopped for a couple months for winter
picked up again spring '07..

i gave up on my radiator supports and decided to just get new ones and replace mine

got the upper support off, test fitting the new one

got the bottom one off, man this thing was rusty as hell on the inside..

engine bay sanded down and rusty spots getting grinded down before sandblasting

decided to cut a few pieces out, i hate rusty seams!!

other side

after blasting and spraying rust bullet

then i welded on the new radiator supports and shock tower plates

then i found another surprise

tried doing a little bit of cutting and gave up, saving it for later..

blasted the front wheel wells next, and coated with rust bullet

xenon lip came woohoo!

summer '07.. someone tell me if i'm crazy

starting on the journey through hell..

after countless hours and days later, working like this..
(yes i know the die grinder is on my balls/crotch)

(this is only 1 day's worth of crap, i was out there for like 5 or 6 days..)

the end result...

man, i don't think i want to ever do that again... being out in the 80 degree+ humid NJ summer weather wearing coveralls/ski mask/etc on my back for a few days.. holy SH*T is all i have to say..

after that i figured it was time for some welding

and painted up with more rust bullet

also finally painted over these welds

just some comparison pics of the engine bay after the rust fixage

now the hard part...
started on the rear section first (basically from rear seats back)

after sandblasting

and some rust bullet

and then... a full coating of rust bullet

started the floor section next

rusty seat mount

where the e-brake cable goes through

glad i got that off...

more surprises

wtf, i thought i was done with this crap...

after a little bit of cutting and poking

after a lot of cutting

okay... this is where i stand now, the last pic was from sept '07, the car's hibernating again and will come out in less than a month for me to continue working on it. btw, so far ALL of this work has been done only by myself.

i have decided to cut those sections of frame rail out and replace with clean metal. also i will have more pics up later sometime of new parts that i've been getting over the last few months.

i know it's a TON of pics at once haha, yes some things i didn't get a chance to snap during the moment. keep in mind this "project" has been going on for the last almost 3 years now. but now that i actually started a build thread, i will have tons more pics from here on out.

in short, my plans for the car is to be rust free with brand new parts everywhere (i will get pics of the rest of my new parts later), basically a "brand new" car that i can drive daily on the street and is reliable (for the most part).

a brief list of what's left to do:

finish fixing rust on floor section
remove glass and sand everything down for paint
get most of the suspension powdercoated
new poly bushings installed
throw everything back together

anyways, i guess that's about it for now. thanks for looking and let me know what you guys think.




Post Title: Re: m tr4nch's restoration/build thread !! (m tr4nch)
Posted by: offroadbob at 4:20 AM 4/16/2008

I admire your dedication. I'd like to think I wouldn't quit halfway through and just sell off all the parts, but I probably would. Serious kudos for sticking with it and doing all that hard work by yourself. I can't wait to see how everything comes together.



Post Title: Re: m tr4nch's restoration/build thread !!
Posted by: numbnuts240 at 6:00 AM 4/16/2008

there we go..



Post Title: Re: (StricNyne)
Posted by: homeslicej2 at 7:03 AM 4/16/2008

No plans to stitch weld the frame to stiffen it up? Might as well think about it since it wouldn't be that much of a stretch to do at this point.

I look forward to seeing more updates soon. Keep up the good work!



Post Title: Re: (homeslicej2)
Posted by: mirochuki13 at 8:03 AM 4/16/2008

My whole car would be blue if I marked all the dings on it... lol.

Also, I think you should try to get sponsorship from rust bullet.



Post Title: Re: (kouki-gymkhana)
Posted by: BMAR240SX at 8:14 AM 4/16/2008

good luck with it.



Post Title: Re: (kouki-gymkhana)
Posted by: homeslicej2 at 11:33 AM 4/16/2008

It is a lot of work, but so long as he enjoys it, it's worth it. Not to mention he's doing a great job at it so far.

m tr4nch, Are you going to respray the underside with rubberized undercoating? They make it in a spray can and it's worth every penny if you do do it.



Post Title: Re: (Hijacker)
Posted by: the converted at 1:44 PM 4/16/2008

i'll try and answer everybody's questions.

Quote, originally posted by homeslicej2 »

Nice job so far I too admire your dedication. I hope to restore mine in future as well. I think Nissan still sells those front frame rails. I've seen someone post them up here on NICO. It might be easier/better to just get new ones (if they still sell them), cut the old ones out, and weld in the new.

yeah i've seen people get those frame rails, i heard they are discontinued now? either way it's just that section that is rusty (where the rail bends upwards). the reason is because there's another layer in there for added strength (you can see it in my pics) and that hole there isn't such a good idea, so it just started rusting in between the layers. so i will get some sheet metal from the metal fab place around here and make some new one foot long sections for both sides.

Quote, originally posted by kouki-gymkhana »

Holy shiznit! Awesome work! I admire your dedication and the shell looks awesome so far. Be careful with that RB25...make sure you take the time to sort it through thoroughly before you drop it in. It will save you a sh*tload of headaches down the road. What mounts are you going to use? Might want to think about banging in the firewall where the starter will sit before you finish painting the bay to make it pretty. It will hurt your heart a little less if you do it now than when it's all painted. Don't ask me how I know...

Quote, originally posted by homeslicej2 »

Kouki-gymkanan....whatever, made me think of something, other than take your time to make sure the RB install is great. Look into the SKYO mounting kit for the RB25. I looks like the best one out there right now.

yeah the RB has been sitting on the engine stand for over 2 years now so i will pull things off that generally need to be replaced when doing a swap.

as for mounts, i am almost 100% sure i will be going with the SYKO mounts. i already have the r33 crossmember, and when it's all said and done it will be cheaper than getting mckinney's.

speaking of banging in the firewall, would you (or anyone) happen to have a pic of where exactly to do this? and how far in?

Quote, originally posted by kouki-gymkhana »

No plans to stitch weld the frame to stiffen it up? Might as well think about it since it wouldn't be that much of a stretch to do at this point.

you know, i was originally thinking of stitch welding the whole chassis, but i decided against it. for a street car i don't think it would be worth it. plus i can always add a cage in the future for added stiffness if i ever wanted to.

Quote, originally posted by BMAR240SX »

Did you hit the effin lotto?

lol i wish...

Quote, originally posted by Hijacker »

Subscribed. I'm digging this resto project, and I totally understand your hatred of rust. My car is an ex-jersey car and had the fortunate luck to be pulled out of there many years ago. The few years it did spend up there did damage though, which I've been slowly fixing. Just not to the extent that you're doing. I don't have the patience or garage space to sideline a car for years to do what you're doing.

lots of people don't take care of their cars around here during the winter (mine's a prime example). it looks like the previous owner parked it in the damn ocean for a while, lol.

Quote, originally posted by white90esex »

wow, seems like way more work than its worth lol. good luck with it.

maybe, i guess we'll find out hehe, thanks!

Quote, originally posted by Hijacker »

m tr4nch, Are you going to respray the underside with rubberized undercoating? They make it in a spray can and it's worth every penny if you do do it.

yesssssir. i got my 5 cans of 3m rubberized undercoating sitting in my basement.

Quote, originally posted by nwmrkt »

damn man nice job! You knew I was waiting for this thread.

haha yes i know you were thanks!

Quote, originally posted by Lopin18 »

holy, at first i was like Restoration my *** this thing is brand new!. then i saw the dings out and i was like, ok, looks more NEW, then i saw the stack of stuff i was like, hmm ok thats overboard, he wants to assemble the whole car?, then freaking doing chassis work cleaning, now rb25, OMFG, LOL THIS IS ONE HELL OF A COOL PROYECT, this car is gonna be BRAND new, beautiful. IM IN, Love this car, thread, work, everything!

thanks man! yep everything (mostly) will be brand new. i really need to go downstairs and take some pics of my last nissan order

Quote, originally posted by 2.4Loflove »

your rust problems are somewhat worse than mine, and you tackled them! good luck on whatever is coming. where did you get all the $$$ for the OEM parts?

haha thanks. $$ is from me working for 5 years and saving most of it.



Post Title:
Posted by: op.tic at 5:54 PM 4/16/2008

I have a 90 240sx hatch that i used some parts off of, theres rust here and there just like yours, this really makes me want to restore it and give it another chance, rather than giving it to a junkyard.



Post Title: Re: (op.tic)
Posted by: slipipinoi at 7:12 PM 4/16/2008

damn man sweet restoration though...omg !!! this thread is so getting marked



Post Title: Re: (3down1togo)
Posted by: Gottoknow at 8:15 PM 4/16/2008

for sandblasting i use one of these guns with the hose attached

with my air compressor

and a bucket of sand

edit: forgot about the rust bullet lol... all i'm using is their automotive version. i also got some of their blackshell to try out. both are kind of thick and you're not supposed to thin them or it can screw up its rust inhibitive properties.

for everyone saying i'm inspiring, thank you
i got all of my inspiration from people that have done this sort of thing: "powerhousemike" on vwvortex forums (white 240 coupe in FL), sillbeer, etc. thanks to them as well

Modified by m tr4nch at 4:21 AM 4/17/2008



Post Title: Re: (m tr4nch)
Posted by: m tr4nch at 10:10 PM 4/16/2008

sold the tein he's and bought a set of stance gr+ back in october

main reason is that i want to use the z32 knuckles in the rear and for some reason tein is "unable" to send me some rear z32 mounts..

my cleaaaan J30 vlsd and axles (thanks to UNISA JECS on zilvia)

jdm chuki sideskirts with no cracks

catco high flow cat

now for the good stuff

new fuel tank and sending unit

all new weatherstripping

e-brake T cable, hood lock cable, hood latch assembly

random clips/screws/floor plugs

overflow tank, rear view mirror, mirror glass, front bumper emblem, wiper arms

new combination switches (since every s13 has sun faded switches), pedal pads, door stuff

headlight bezels

all new lamps (front turn signals, front and rear side markers, 3rd brake light, license plate lamps)

clutch hardline, fenderwell plastic, door moulding also stuffed in there

will have more soon, maybe tomorrow


Modified by m tr4nch at 4:54 AM 10/10/2008



Post Title: Re: m tr4nch's restoration/build thread !! (offroadbob)
Posted by: Didderson at 10:47 PM 4/16/2008

subscribed. finish it this summer!
BTW great choice on the motor. Had I had more time and money I'd love to have done an RB25.

Modified by Didderson at 12:31 PM 4/17/2008



Post Title: Re: (m tr4nch)
Posted by: pflicht at 11:50 PM 4/16/2008

BTW, when you are done, I will allow those rust killing hands to come out to Kansas and clean my car of rust! jk

I will definately be looking for updates!



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Posted by: Hijacker at 6:56 AM 4/17/2008

I'm actually surprised that you got a lot of the parts you did. It seems every time I go to order something oddball, Nissan has it on backorder.



Post Title: Re: (Hijacker)
Posted by: homeslicej2 at 7:15 AM 4/17/2008

Quote, originally posted by Hijacker »

Matt, do you have the part numbers on hand for the light and wiper switches? Convertibles tend to get theirs sun faded worse than other 240s, so I've been wanting to replace them and I've been having trouble pricing out the wiper switch. I'll have a lot better luck with a p/n I'm actually surprised that you got a lot of the parts you did. It seems every time I go to order something oddball, Nissan has it on backorder.

headlight switch: 25540-44F00
wiper switch: 25260-44F00

and yeah, every time i place an order it takes at least 3 weeks since i order all the random sh*t lol.



Post Title:
Posted by: Hijacker at 1:01 PM 4/17/2008

But everytime I go to order something oddball, like a set of power mirror interior sails, it seems to be on indefinite backorder.



Post Title: Re: m tr4nch's restoration/build thread !! (offroadbob)
Posted by: Didderson at 1:09 PM 4/17/2008

Did you go through a nissan dealership to get the parts or a website?



Post Title: Re: (Hijacker)
Posted by: m tr4nch at 4:20 PM 4/17/2008

Quote, originally posted by Hijacker »

At least your parts dept. orders it Mine has been notoriuos for forgetting to order stuff. A set of main bearings for my motor rebuild comes to mind. But everytime I go to order something oddball, like a set of power mirror interior sails, it seems to be on indefinite backorder.

haha, that sucks. i go through http://www.midwaypartsteam.com in AZ. talk to mike jones there, he's taken care of most of my orders, awesome guy. he will get what you need, unless it's discontinued. or you could go through courtesy nissan's catalog online. midway's a little bit cheaper though

Quote, originally posted by Flicktitty »

That is an awesome build! you very dedicated to your build! let me just say it's easy to tear **** apart put having to put it back together is where it gets tricky, then again i geuss everything you have is brand new in bags so you shouldn't have a problem.

thanks! i actually think it will be much easier to put back together than tear apart. most importantly because i wont have to deal with bolts/nuts/screws that are rusted to sh*t.



Post Title:
Posted by: Lopin18 at 9:07 AM 4/18/2008

can we get an estimate on how much have u spent buying all that stuff (i mean the oem stuff only, vsld and all that are normal stuff to buy, but ALL that oem stuff is off the hook!)



Post Title: Re: (m tr4nch)
Posted by: Hijacker at 9:20 AM 4/18/2008

Quote, originally posted by m tr4nch »

haha, that sucks. i go through http://www.midwaypartsteam.com in AZ. talk to mike jones there, he's taken care of most of my orders, awesome guy. he will get what you need, unless it's discontinued. or you could go through courtesy nissan's catalog online. midway's a little bit cheaper though

I used to order from Midway a lot, but when I'm ordering just one item at a time, the NICO discount doesn't really amount to much, and after shipping, it's cheaper to go through my local dealer.

And when I do a big order, I have some good hookups out here. I just don't like to take advantage of it too much.

Out of all the seals you ordered, did you happen to come across the part number for the seal that goes around the door handle and the one that goes in front of the handle key cylinder? Mine got painted over and I want to replace them before I reinstall the handles into the doors.

EDIT: Nevermind. I just got off the phone with my parts guy, and I'd have to buy the whole handle to get those seals. I guess I'll see if I can't try to save the ones I have



Post Title: Re: (Hijacker)
Posted by: bmart at 9:37 AM 4/18/2008

rusty subframe

new unrusted subframe from CA (thanks to killswitch on zilvia)

KA crossmember

r33 crossmember

here's why i got a new e-brake T cable...

rusty headlight brackets

non rusty headlight brackets

remember my quarter panel? this will replace it
thanks to tearlessj on zilvia

zero rust baby!!

some power window/mirror stuff (thanks to bamracing and ebay)

and this is how she sits right now

and the motor



Modified by m tr4nch at 4:58 AM 10/10/2008



Post Title: Re: (Lopin18)
Posted by: m tr4nch at 5:13 PM 4/18/2008

Quote, originally posted by Lopin18 »

can we get an estimate on how much have u spent buying all that stuff (i mean the oem stuff only, vsld and all that are normal stuff to buy, but ALL that oem stuff is off the hook!)

hmm let's see.. all the suspension bolts/nuts/etc. was around 500. then all the other stuff adds up to about 3k.. and i'm not done yet

Quote, originally posted by Hijacker »

I used to order from Midway a lot, but when I'm ordering just one item at a time, the NICO discount doesn't really amount to much, and after shipping, it's cheaper to go through my local dealer. And when I do a big order, I have some good hookups out here. I just don't like to take advantage of it too much. Out of all the seals you ordered, did you happen to come across the part number for the seal that goes around the door handle and the one that goes in front of the handle key cylinder? Mine got painted over and I want to replace them before I reinstall the handles into the doors. EDIT: Nevermind. I just got off the phone with my parts guy, and I'd have to buy the whole handle to get those seals. I guess I'll see if I can't try to save the ones I have

ah true, yeah i don't recall a seal around the handles, idk lol

Quote, originally posted by bmart »

You would hate Canada if you think that that car was bad. A 240 In the condition that your car was in when you bught it would be worth 5-6000 dollars around here. What your doin looks great though. keep it up.

yeah that definitely sucks for you guys in canada, idk what i would do.. i'd have to move south somewhere haha.

Quote, originally posted by blinker_fluid »

When your done with that feel like restoring my car...jk. Seriously its looking like its all gonna be worth it in the end. So good that I'd be almost scared to drive it with all the bungholes on the road. What part of ocean you live in, if you need help with the motor install lmk I'm good with electrical and mechanical stuff just don't have a knack for body work. Hope to see it cruising soon, good luck.

lol yeah i know what you mean, people around here SUCK at driving big time NJ really needs to make the license test a LOT harder so we can get all the douchebags off the road.. oh and i don't mean ocean county over there << haha, i'm in monmouth though. thanks for the offer man, i'll keep that in mind if i need help.



Post Title: Re: (m tr4nch)
Posted by: mirochuki13 at 5:44 PM 4/18/2008

Are you going to keep the car black?



Post Title: Re: (mirochuki13)
Posted by: m tr4nch at 6:32 PM 4/18/2008

yup, the plan is to get the whole car sprayed in KH3 super black again



Post Title:
Posted by: NismoJ30 at 6:56 PM 4/18/2008

Wow.... For claiming to not know anything about what you were doing you sure as heck are doing everything right. Time is money and you have so much invested in that car. I'm glad you mentioned Silbeer as that is one of my fav S-chassis cars ever. That car will be something to keep and give to the grandkids when your done with it. Goodluck.



Post Title: Re: (m tr4nch)
Posted by: bamracing at 7:16 PM 4/18/2008

You wouldn't happen to still have the old steelies lying around? My son and I could use some spares for our dirt tracker.



Post Title: Re: (bamracing)
Posted by: KFL at 11:12 AM 4/19/2008

Once our cars are running me and carlos gotta check that out and lend a hand if u need. -alex



Post Title: Re: (KFL)
Posted by: lucky03602 at 12:52 PM 4/19/2008

i do feel bad for you when you have to put it all back together though...thats ALOT of work and always 1000% harder then is was taking it apart

looking at your pics. and living up in nh, i think ill end up sandblasting the checking my engine bay, seeing how all your rust was really on the inside.



Post Title: Re: (lucky03602)
Posted by: darkspoon at 5:45 PM 4/19/2008

What kind of welder are you using?

BTW Thank you for the picture intensive thread, it is a great write-up of sorts. As well as the write up on the 240 dolly.

Just keep those pictures coming



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Posted by: boost4life1 at 8:36 PM 4/19/2008

really?



Post Title: Re: (bloodsport)
Posted by: B-Boy DuB-L at 9:14 PM 4/19/2008

Cuz im looking to do a 5 speed swap. So if u have ny other parts ill take those to. Of course with some compensation



Post Title: Re: (darkspoon)
Posted by: Young_240_Guht at 3:36 AM 4/20/2008

Kinda like what the older guys do with theyre classics, maybe if more of us would do this, Nissan might bring the S chassis back and more tasty engine choices



Post Title: Re: (Young_240_Guht)
Posted by: JaeTea at 5:01 AM 4/20/2008

haha, they are definitely worthy! i'm so sick of having to lean over and roll the passenger window down (and mine too) all the time (my DD has manual windows as well). and i do believe i still have the steelies in my other shed, although the tires are pretty much bald. you can have them if you want to pay for shipping to TX.

Quote, originally posted by KFL »

Wow.. super clean build up.. you have a lot of paitence and time. I'd be super anxious to get it up and running already. Once our cars are running me and carlos gotta check that out and lend a hand if u need. -alex

thanks man

Quote, originally posted by darkspoon »

As well, another subscriber here, great way to waste time at work, i've gone over the pictures a few times and i'm getting psyched up to do my own 240 restore. (I'll try to get pics, but you'll cry at the rust i'll be facing) What kind of welder are you using? BTW Thank you for the picture intensive thread, it is a great write-up of sorts. As well as the write up on the 240 dolly. Just keep those pictures coming

i'm using a lincoln electric, model SP135T mig
thanks

Quote, originally posted by B-Boy DuB-L »

Hey man if u still have that crossmember ill gladly take it off your hands for you Cuz im looking to do a 5 speed swap. So if u have ny other parts ill take those to. Of course with some compensation

the KA crossmember? sure.. one of the motor mounts wouldn't budge so i started grinding the nut/bolt from underneath and never finished it. i don't have any extra 5-speed parts though...

Quote, originally posted by Young_240_Guht »

Welder was probably set on pulse, and you weren't using the right settings? IDK, I wish i could have helped you with those welds after seeing how much work you've put into this car. Kinda like what the older guys do with theyre classics, maybe if more of us would do this, Nissan might bring the S chassis back and more tasty engine choices

what's wrong with my welding? i don't really care how it looks, i always grind them down a bit anyways. i just care that i get good penetration, which i am. i prefer the one-spot-next-to-the-other method as opposed to the long straight bead.
thanks for looking out though



Post Title: Re: (m tr4nch)
Posted by: Nis-240sx-san at 7:31 PM 4/20/2008

Im lost for words with this build.



Post Title: Re: (m tr4nch)
Posted by: pflicht at 5:25 PM 4/28/2008

i dont know if you remember, but i bought the tein he's from you. i'm glad to see that you are still going to put coilovers on it.

keep it up man. looks like your almost there!



Post Title: Re: (240 GTR)
Posted by: dalzell240 at 6:58 PM 4/28/2008

I'm also needing to get a sandblasting setup going and am kind of a n00b about it so far. By "and a bucket of sand," do you mean literally, like a bucket of sand from the backyard, or do you need to buy some special fine grit sand?
Also, does your sand blaster...

...have a hopper for the sand or does it siphon it?



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Posted by: sommmatt at 8:54 PM 4/28/2008

lol i get what you're saying though. thanks!

Quote, originally posted by 240 GTR »

wow. i knew you were restoring your 240, but i didnt think you were doing all of this. it's amazing! i dont know if you remember, but i bought the tein he's from you. i'm glad to see that you are still going to put coilovers on it. keep it up man. looks like your almost there!

of course i remember, haha. i've changed my aim sn since then (took the P out). how are the coils treating you? and how's your cars doing?

Quote, originally posted by eldewen »

I'm also needing to get a sandblasting setup going and am kind of a n00b about it so far. By "and a bucket of sand," do you mean literally, like a bucket of sand from the backyard, or do you need to buy some special fine grit sand? Also, does your sand blaster have a hopper for the sand or does it siphon it?

yes, i literally mean one of those orange paint buckets from home depot with sand in it. the gun siphons the sand from the bucket. and don't get sand from your backyard, or even worse, the beach.. i got 2 bags of sanitized play sand to use (also from home depot). i sweep up the sand when i'm done for the day and filter it through a screen. i haven't even opened the second bag yet.

Quote, originally posted by sommmatt »

If you didn't spend so much time taking pictures you would be done by now.

hahah.. if you divide the number of pics i have by 3.5 years, i think i would be lacking in the pic department.

thanks for all the great comments



Post Title: Re: (Hijacker)
Posted by: Jeff822 at 10:24 PM 4/28/2008

Quote, originally posted by m tr4nch »

what's wrong with my welding? i don't really care how it looks, i always grind them down a bit anyways. i just care that i get good penetration, which i am. i prefer the one-spot-next-to-the-other method as opposed to the long straight bead. thanks for looking out though

Yeh, I was gonna comment on your welds too, but I see perfect welds every day... It's not just penetration you want, but also resistance to cracking. A good rule of thumb, if it "looks" good, it is good. But even a good "looking" weld can crack. If you can find a good weldor that's been in the industry for a while(that's not an *******), you can learn alot from em'.

But regardless, this project is much deeper than how your welds look. And it's downright motivational for me. +1 for DIY!



Post Title: Re: (pflicht)
Posted by: m tr4nch at 12:46 PM 4/29/2008

Quote, originally posted by pflicht »

Its been ~11 days since some pictures... This thread has delivered THUS far... I want more, more, MORE, MOAR!!!!!

i know i know.. in about 2 weeks i will be starting to get **** done again. can't wait!!

Quote, originally posted by datsun2401972 »

Yeh, I was gonna comment on your welds too, but I see perfect welds every day... It's not just penetration you want, but also resistance to cracking. A good rule of thumb, if it "looks" good, it is good. But even a good "looking" weld can crack. If you can find a good weldor that's been in the industry for a while(that's not an *******), you can learn alot from em'. But regardless, this project is much deeper than how your welds look. And it's downright motivational for me. +1 for DIY!

hmm i see.. i guess i will just practice some more then. thanks man.
oh and sometime in the future, my next "project" will probably be an S30 i LOVE that car. (going by your name)



Post Title: Re: (m tr4nch)
Posted by: datsun2401972 at 5:38 PM 4/29/2008

Awesome cars though. I would love to have a cherry one with an SR or RB25 in it. It just takes too much money to make those old engines roar. And then I bought my s13 coupe, so all funds for my s30 were moved to the s13...

Anyways, keep the inspiration coming!



Post Title: Re: (m tr4nch)
Posted by: perkeset at 12:36 AM 5/5/2008

oh and did i mention much respect for a bad azz build, oh yeah man if i ever see you at a show. . .i am buying you a beer cause after this build your gonna need it



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Posted by: gregfarz78 at 10:52 AM 5/5/2008

How much did the weatherstripping run you I need to replace all mine too...oh and where did you get that sandblast gun?



Post Title: Re: (m tr4nch)
Posted by: PhopsonNY at 12:43 PM 5/5/2008

Great work here...

With all this work, I suggest you also get at all the parts that are not accessible with a rust converter/inhibitor.
You seem to have got quite a bit of it, but for some extra safety, I would do it.

The areas I was worried about when I did my car;

Inside frame rails
Inside rocker panels,
Inside the quarter panel ( you seem to have taken care of this)

I got hold of one of these kits and blasted those areas

http://www.eastwoodco.com/shop...21310

Good luck with all the good work




Post Title: Re: (datsun2401972)
Posted by: m tr4nch at 5:41 PM 5/5/2008

S30 with rb25 =

Quote, originally posted by perkeset »

first off, props man one of the best builds i have ever seen on a s13. now as for the starter placement in the fire wall, i installed my rb and had to bang the fire wall back a good 2-3" to clearance it. depending on the kit you use yours will sitt different than mine, but you seem to be pretty good at welding so i would say you may want to make your own mounts we did and we sat the rb25 back about 2" from where it sits with the McKinney kit better weight balance for the car. yes that meant even more customizing of the fire wall but i think it was worth it. oh and did i mention much respect for a bad azz build, oh yeah man if i ever see you at a show. . .i am buying you a beer cause after this build your gonna need it

thanks i mentioned before back on page 1 that i am most likely going with the SYKO mounts. i guess i'll worry about the firewall when i get to the point of dropping the motor in.

Quote, originally posted by gregfarz78 »

I feel your pain about jersey cars though the road salt and salt water near the ocean just destroys everything around here, I bought my car from a guy in texas so I wouldn't have to deal with rust. How much did the weatherstripping run you I need to replace all mine too...oh and where did you get that sandblast gun?

yeahh that's one of the bad things about living around here.. the weatherstripping ran me about $600. that's for everything: the 4 pieces for the doors, the door mouldings along the top, the hatch, and hood.

the sandblasting gun i got at home depot for like $15 or $20

Quote, originally posted by PhopsonNY »

Hey Matt, Great work here... With all this work, I suggest you also get at all the parts that are not accessible with a rust converter/inhibitor. You seem to have got quite a bit of it, but for some extra safety, I would do it. The areas I was worried about when I did my car; Inside frame rails Inside rocker panels, Inside the quarter panel ( you seem to have taken care of this) I got hold of one of these kits and blasted those areas http://www.eastwoodco.com/shop...21310 Good luck with all the good work

thanks man, yeah one of those undercoating guns is definitely on the list. when i'm done, i will have gone over pretty much every inch of this thing



Post Title: Re: (m tr4nch)
Posted by: gregfarz78 at 7:28 PM 5/5/2008

Yeah hope you plan to garage keep that bad boy when you're all done it really makes a huge difference my spec is 6 years old its been garage kept most of its life and doesnt have a spec of rust on the underbody or anywhere. Did you spray that rust bullet or brush/roll it on?



Post Title: Re: (gregfarz78)
Posted by: m tr4nch at 10:55 PM 5/5/2008

definitely will be garaged kept when i'm done.

for the engine bay and front wheel wells i sprayed on both coats of rust bullet. for the underbody in the rear i brushed on the first 2 coats over the sandblasted areas with a foam brush, and then sprayed on 2 coats to cover everything. so the sandblasted areas have a total of 4 coats now just in case. i'll be doing the same for the floor section as well.



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Posted by: gregfarz78 at 1:42 PM 5/6/2008

lovin the build just stopped back for any updates.



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Posted by: s13gebala at 1:48 PM 5/27/2008

and do you think powerwash(water n air) would get rust off?



Post Title: Re: (s13gebala)
Posted by: m tr4nch at 10:17 PM 5/27/2008

Quote, originally posted by s13gebala »

very nice, any engine mod plans with the rb25? and do you think powerwash(water n air) would get rust off?

for now i am just gonna leave the rb25 stock and get used to it. maybe some bolt on's in the future. i'll be shooting for low 300's, maybe like 320hp, but i will figure all that out later.

and for your other question, i don't think powerwashing rust is a good idea. first i don't think it will get it off, and second it will probably make it worse (water/air and bare metal = rust). so i'm going to have to advise against that

and on a side note, as of right now i am officially 21!!! w00t!!



Post Title: Re: (m tr4nch)
Posted by: fourLUG_hero at 11:23 PM 5/27/2008

I hope all goes well with the rest of it.



Post Title: Re: (cemtoes)
Posted by: future240owner at 7:57 PM 6/22/2008

Do you go to school? Where do you work?

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Posted by: UsJdmTuner at 4:28 PM 6/27/2008

are you going to paint it in the garage?



Post Title: Mace?
Posted by: WhiteKnight at 3:55 AM 6/28/2008

O and GOOD work on the restoration. i'd love to see the final product. looks like you have a long road ahead of you



Post Title: Re: Mace? (nightsauce)
Posted by: lazyboi444 at 2:17 PM 7/1/2008

i started with 2 bed frames that my dad had lying around in his garage, and ended up with these:

definitely not done as you can see..

so back to the car.

got the 2 chunks of frame rail off.

then i started on the seam where the floor meets the rocker on the passenger side.

also got my sweet undercoating gun from canada to spray inside hard to reach areas like my frame rails and crap.

so that's about it for now. tomorrow i am going over to the metal fab shop and picking up some sheet metal for the frame rails and i'll be doing some more cutting on the floor/rocker seam on the driver's side:

stay tuned


Modified by m tr4nch at 5:00 AM 10/10/2008



Post Title: Re: m tr4nch's restoration/build thread !! (speedyrb)
Posted by: m tr4nch at 11:22 PM 7/2/2008

to answer some people..

Quote, originally posted by speedyrb »

hey nice project you have going there. where did you get all the oem parts for the radiator support? did you go stright to a nissan dealer or is there a website you got them threw?

i order all my nissan stuff from midway parts team in AZ, http://www.midwaypartsteam.com

Quote, originally posted by future240owner »

Amazing job. I can't imagine how much you have learned from this. Keep up the good work man. We are all going to want a grand total in the end. Something like this has always been an idea but to much time and money need to be dedicated. Do you go to school? Where do you work?

i have definitely learned a LOT through all of this. yes i go to school. i work at a movie theater making minimum wage (almost)

Quote, originally posted by UsJdmTuner »

nice build very inspiring.. can you tell me your setup on sand blasting..

(page 1) i use an air compressor with a sandblasting gun and a bucket of sanitized play sand. all i do is wheel the car out into the driveway and blast in the open so i don't get sand all over the garage. when i'm done i just wheel it back inside, sweep up the sand and run it through a screen to remove all the crap.

Quote, originally posted by Kalypso123 »

are you going to paint it in the garage?

i want to do it in the garage myself but my mom doesn't want me to for some reason so i gotta take it somewhere to get it done.

Quote, originally posted by WhiteKnight »

Do u know there a MACE hanging on your doorknob in one of the photos? Are you near Newark where u would need it?

LOL yeah i know, my older bro got it from medieval times like 20 years ago

Quote, originally posted by nightsauce »

lol gotta have the newark jokes. i'm from born and raised in newark. never had a problem. O and GOOD work on the restoration. i'd love to see the final product. looks like you have a long road ahead of you

thanks. you go to njit eh? i went there for a semester a couple years ago..

Quote, originally posted by lazyboi444 »

HEY M TR4NCH...I was wondering the Suspension Bolts you ordered and All the little things you ordered did you order them as individuals or as like a bolt kit...What company did you order thru? Same for the Fuel tank sending unit

i wish there was a bolt kit.. i ordered them all individually from nissan. same with the sending unit. read up a little in this post for midway^

Quote, originally posted by rcabrita »

You better hurry up! You need to make it to E-Town!

yeahhh i'm trying we'll see what happens though.



Post Title: Re: (m tr4nch)
Posted by: RCA at 3:15 AM 7/3/2008

You are quite the character!
I stoped suscribing to this thread.
I am waiting for the official:
m tr4nch's rotisserie build thread



Post Title: Re: (rcabrita)
Posted by: hbpignosePA at 5:37 AM 7/3/2008

im thinkin tube frame



Post Title: Re: (hbpignosePA)
Posted by: m tr4nch at 4:47 PM 7/3/2008

did some more cutting and grinding on the floor/rocker seams. DONE with that until i start sandblasting

cancer..

Modified by m tr4nch at 5:01 AM 10/10/2008



Post Title: Re: (m tr4nch)
Posted by: 2.4Loflove at 5:31 PM 7/3/2008

your build never ceases to amaze me

you really know how to fix up a 240 the right way!

cant wait to see more



Post Title: Re: (m tr4nch)
Posted by: g love at 5:57 PM 7/3/2008

Btw, im going to try and duplicate your chassis dolly tomorrow.

Modified by op.tic at 11:48 PM 7/4/2008



Post Title: Re: (rcabrita)
Posted by: mirochuki13 at 10:46 PM 7/4/2008

lol... Do it.



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Posted by: Black on Gold at 9:23 AM 7/5/2008

I hope to one day be able to do this. Being 19 and not much $$$ doesnt help. But im working on it



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Posted by: naladude911 at 2:34 PM 7/5/2008

every time i went and looked harder i found something else



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Posted by: UsJdmTuner at 12:29 PM 7/6/2008

i use one of these to apply the first couple coats, they are like $0.49 each or something cheap like that at home depot:

and then i spray 2 coats with my sharpe fx300 spray gun:

the rust bullet unfortunately does not come in a spray can.



Post Title: Re: (m tr4nch)
Posted by: sped56737 at 4:52 AM 7/7/2008

This is an awesome build,but i don think i would trust that rotisserie.



Post Title: Re: (m tr4nch)
Posted by: op.tic at 8:30 AM 7/7/2008

Also when useing rust bullet isn't there a special cleaning procedure you must do to your gun to insure that the paint residue doesn't harden in the gun it self?



Post Title: Re: (rcabrita)
Posted by: k00laid83 at 12:20 PM 7/7/2008

thank you! welcome to nico!

Quote, originally posted by op.tic »

Have you used any of the rust bullet black shell yet? got any pics of it applied? How hard is that stuff anyway, can it be chipped off at all?

i painted the lower radiator support with the blackshell before i welded it on. the finish is pretty much the same as the regular rust bullet. it looks powdercoated and doesn't chip. both the regular rust bullet and the blackshell are pretty tough coatings. i'll try and get a picture of it tomorrow when i'm in the garage.

Quote, originally posted by rcabrita »

Does that bad boy do paint as well? Also when useing rust bullet isn't there a special cleaning procedure you must do to your gun to insure that the paint residue doesn't harden in the gun it self?

yes it does.
you have to keep the paint flowing or it will start to dry inside the gun. the directions on the rust bullet say not to let it sit more than 15 (?) minutes. after i'm done i run a bit of toluene through it and thoroughly clean it which works really well.

Quote, originally posted by k00laid83 »

yea that gun shoots good....and also you can pick up a three guy paint gun set in a case sold by napa...i have that set and i've shot my cars roof.. my cousins cars...and a three stage house of color paint job on a harley. i think they cost me 120 for all three!

that's not bad for 3 spray guns.
still using my sig? i fixed the "1" if you want it let me know.

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Post Title: Re: (m tr4nch)
Posted by: m tr4nch at 9:19 PM 7/8/2008

got the driver's side draft duct cut out in the rear.

cut the bottom of the passenger side quarter panel off finally
still have to cut the duct part on the inside..

tomorrow i'll be cutting the duct, and i will be attempting to cut out the piece where the door hinge bolts up on the driver's side

(pic to refresh your memory)

Modified by m tr4nch at 5:03 AM 10/10/2008



Post Title: Re: (m tr4nch)
Posted by: RCA at 10:58 AM 7/9/2008

After all is said and done...
what do you think all of this is going to do with the structual integrity of the car? You pretty much replaced it with welded together pieces of metal...



Post Title: Re: (m tr4nch)
Posted by: k00laid83 at 11:49 AM 7/9/2008

oh yea huh dang ive actually have been wanting to get rid of it man. and yea bro check those guns out!



Post Title: Re: (k00laid83)
Posted by: tEknoS13 at 11:56 AM 7/9/2008

i think it will be fine, if not better. i mean all a car really is is pieces of metal spot welded together in a million places.

Quote, originally posted by k00laid83 »

oh yea huh dang ive actually have been wanting to get rid of it man. and yea bro check those guns out!

just bustin your balls man lol.. i'll have to take a ride over to napa one of these days and see what they got.

Quote, originally posted by tEknoS13 »

that spray gun, i saw some on ebay and they have different tips i think, they got 1.3,1.4, 1.5,..... which one do u have?

ah yes.. i bought the gun with a 1.8 tip which is said to be good for spraying primer. i bought a 1.4 tip set to see if it would atomize the rust bullet a little better since it's pretty thick but i haven't really noticed any change.

i read that 1.4 is good for basecoats, and 1.2 for clear
but it looks like i won't be doing either of those myself so i'll be good with my 1.8/1.4 combo.

i'll have some more pics up later tonight hopefully



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Posted by: naladude911 at 4:20 PM 7/9/2008

went and picked up my new frame rail pieces

old vs. new:

double 16 gauge layers vs. the stock 16 on outside and 18 on inside:
still have some trimming/bending to do obviously

got the duct cut out on the passenger's side:

started the door hinge area.. wtf...
didn't even realize there was another layer in there.. mmm crusty...

ran out of juice in both batteries for my drill, so i will finish drilling the spot welds and cutting tomorrow.

just keeps getting worse and worse it seems


Modified by m tr4nch at 5:04 AM 10/10/2008



Post Title: Re: (m tr4nch)
Posted by: RCA at 3:59 PM 7/10/2008

haha.. i'm not giving up. it's just a friggin PITA

Quote, originally posted by Traldan »

I have an immense amount of respect for the work you've put into this car. Keep it up, man. I'll definitely be watching this.

thanks!

did a little more today. i took a break and got sidetracked reading about welding and stuff online.

anyways.. got this bitch taken care of...

i guess i'll be stopping by the sheet metal shop again haha

i'm going to do the other side also, just to be on the safe side, although i'm sure it's not going to be quite as bad as that^ but still a little rusty nonetheless.

not sure if i'll get anything done tomorrow.

Modified by m tr4nch at 5:06 AM 10/10/2008



Post Title: Re: (m tr4nch)
Posted by: Kalypso at 11:19 PM 7/11/2008

thanks, much appreciated.

little bit of an update...

first off, here's a pic of the lower rad support with the black shell on it for those who were wondering. it comes out looking like it's powdercoated.
(don't mind the silver specs, it's just a little overspray from when i painted the welds)

here is what the pass. side upper door hinge mount looked like. can't really tell from the outside if there's anything going on in there..

and DONE

i figured out why this happens. when the cars were originally manufactured, the pieces are spot welded together as bare metal. then the car gets an e-coat applied (electronically coated, for adhesion and to fill in everywhere). well those layers were so tight against each other that the paint didn't get in between them so over time the uncoated metal just rusted inside there. this may also be the reason why my frame rails rusted where there was the double layer.

anyways, that's it for now.

almost forgot, these bad boys showed up on my doorstep today:

edit: 600th post, w00t!!


Modified by m tr4nch at 5:07 AM 10/10/2008



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Posted by: StricNyne at 9:29 PM 7/15/2008

true indeed, I have to rust treat mine before I bring it back to NYC
its a florida car.

Im not sure what I need to do that. but some goggles, a brush, and jackstands is a start.

Post Title: Re: (Kalypso123)
Posted by: hbpignosePA at 2:49 PM 7/26/2008

u my friend are a god of rust killing

wish i lived a bit closer to NJ, im gonna need all the help i can when i start the s30.... i might just try and source a new shell from AZ or cali....

if i do go for a new shell ill donate the one i have to u,



Post Title: Re: (hbpignosePA)
Posted by: nightsauce at 10:41 PM 7/26/2008

Quote, originally posted by hbpignosePA »

u my friend are a god of rust killing.....

i'd pay him money to fix the minor rust i have.



Post Title: Re: (nightsauce)
Posted by: 240_hero13 at 11:23 PM 7/28/2008

but where do you guys get the ****ing $$ and time to do this??

so fast nicely and rapidly
DO YOU DO FOR WORK?!?!

TELL ME NOW!




Post Title: Re: (sr20-thoj)
Posted by: m tr4nch at 1:10 AM 7/29/2008

already covered this. the new one i got is made by husky.

Quote, originally posted by EW »

Nice work but it should be a lesson to you guys up north to buy a non-rusty car from a southern/western state.

definitely a lesson learned!! never will i buy a car again with rust.

Quote, originally posted by nightsauce »

what are you gonna do with the stock trans? I would be interested in purchasing it. i just purchased an auto 91 hatch.

Quote, originally posted by gregfarz78 »

yeah what did you ever do with the old KA and trans was it shot?

i sold the motor & tranny a looong time ago. the block was pretty rusty on the outside, exhaust smoked a little, it was on it's way toward a rebuild i would say. the tranny was in decent condition except for the 2nd gear synchro going.

Quote, originally posted by Kalypso123 »

true indeed, I have to rust treat mine before I bring it back to NYC its a florida car. Im not sure what I need to do that. but some goggles, a brush, and jackstands is a start.

just take care of it man. no snow/bad weather/etc.

Quote, originally posted by hbpignosePA »

u my friend are a god of rust killing wish i lived a bit closer to NJ, im gonna need all the help i can when i start the s30.... i might just try and source a new shell from AZ or cali.... if i do go for a new shell ill donate the one i have to u,

haha thanks man. i would def. look in az/ca for a clean s30 shell. when i finally get to that point of getting one that is what i'm going to do. learned the hard way this time around lol.

i'll have some more pics up sometime soon hopefully.



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Posted by: gregfarz78 at 8:39 AM 7/29/2008

You will know exactly where to look and figure out its value based on were and how bad it is rusted.

This is some serious knowlege. I can only hope you make a thread in the 240sx purchaseing advise section of NICO. You are unoffically NICO's rust guru.



Post Title: Re: (gregfarz78)
Posted by: m tr4nch at 12:24 PM 7/29/2008

haha yeah man, the finish is pretty damn tough. and yeah spraying it on looks much nicer, but it doesn't cover everything (even though it looks like it). so i brush on the first 2 coats to make sure i get the coverage/thickness, and then spray 2 coats to make the surface pretty and even. made the mistake of not brushing it on first in the engine bay so now i have to go over it again and yeah that stuff won't come off for like a week if it gets on you lol



Post Title: Re: (rcabrita)
Posted by: m tr4nch at 12:42 PM 7/29/2008

i know the s13 chassis like the back of my hand now haha.
from what i've seen on my car and other people's threads, rust will start anywhere there is a seam (between 2 layers of metal). and in my case, start rusting from the inside out (like the frame rails & lower rad support).

the most common place i've seen rust forming so far is the top of the front shock towers where the reinforcement plate is:

Post Title: Re: (m tr4nch)
Posted by: m tr4nch at 9:35 PM 7/29/2008

got the quarter panel piece trimmed down and test fitted:

got some patches cut out:

started welding up the hole in the floor from the seat mount:

yeah so not a whole lot but i'm getting there...


Modified by m tr4nch at 5:09 AM 10/10/2008



Post Title: Re: (m tr4nch)
Posted by: ProphetZ_TuninG at 10:23 AM 7/31/2008

nah, that small weld spot you saw on the floor is me plugging up a screw hole since the previous owner had an amp drilled straight through the floor with some wood screws

and yeah looks like i hit the bandwidth limit on my photobucket :/ which will get reset on the 10th since i don't feel like spending any money on their pro account.

i haven't really got anything done lately since i've worked 51 hours in 4 days since last thurs



Post Title: Re: (m tr4nch)
Posted by: m tr4nch at 2:09 AM 8/6/2008

some other places...

i've emailed rust bullet about this to see what the fuck is going on
we'll see what happens..

i might try some por-15 on the floor section and see how it holds up compared to rust bullet.

edit: to clarify, those spots of rust coming through are only in areas where there was previously rust that i sandblasted. the rest of the undercoat i did in the rear for example still looks perfect.

Modified by m tr4nch at 5:28 AM 8/6/2008



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Posted by: StricNyne at 5:22 AM 8/6/2008

also.. ive used por15 and never had any problems... you might want to try using ZINC PRIMER.... zinc is good for inhibiting rust.. there are a few companies that sell them... i found zinc spray cans : http://www.safetyvests.com/S00...pound
........... that is the approach im going to take.... and then maybe layer it with por15 and rubber coating....



Post Title: Re: (UsJdmTuner)
Posted by: homeslicej2 at 6:38 AM 8/6/2008

Quote, originally posted by UsJdmTuner »

also.. ive used por15 and never had any problems... you might want to try using ZINC PRIMER.... zinc is good for inhibiting rust.. there are a few companies that sell them... i found zinc spray cans : http://www.safetyvests.com/S00...pound ........... that is the approach im going to take.... and then maybe layer it with por15 and rubber coating....

yeah i might try out some por-15 on the floor. i think if i want to use it on the other places though i'd have to strip all the rust bullet off to the bare metal again for it to work. which would be like starting over. i got some weld thru primer also which is basically a zinc coating.

Quote, originally posted by homeslicej2 »

Sorry to see that man. Many of your pics don't show up right now bc you've exceeded the bandwidth on photobucket. Are you sure that you removed all the rust when you blasted it?

i definitely removed all the rust.. even if i didn't, the rust bullet is supposed to work directly over rusty metal anyway..

sometimes i just want to get a rust free shell and forget about this sh*t..



Post Title: Re: (homeslicej2)
Posted by: RCA at 1:19 PM 8/6/2008

They use unlimited bandwidth that plus al the pictures end up the same size.

I accidentall deleted all my S14 pictures from my Myspace account and Myspace still has them up and running.



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Posted by: kick_it_sideways at 1:22 PM 8/6/2008

Even if there may have been small small amounts of grease/oil, the "rust killer" won't stick worth ****.



Post Title: Re: (rcabrita)
Posted by: m tr4nch at 1:41 PM 8/6/2008

then i'd have to go back and fix every picture link lol

Quote, originally posted by kick_it_sideways »

Damn that sucks. I'm going through "project POR15" right now and seems to be working well. How long ago did you coat that area where the rust came back? Even if there may have been small small amounts of grease/oil, the "rust killer" won't stick worth ****.

that first pic is what i did last summer underneath in the rear (right around the muffler location, on the side of the frame rail). the second pic was my old rad support that i did in november 2006, and the other 2 are in the engine bay done in april 2007. i mean don't get me wrong, other than those spots, it's holding up really well.

and yeah after blasting the rust, i wiped down the metal with 3m adhesive wax and mark remover before coating, so that shouldn't be a problem.



Post Title: Re: (m tr4nch)
Posted by: RCA at 1:48 PM 8/6/2008

Quote, originally posted by m tr4nch »

then i'd have to go back and fix every picture link lol

Just trying to save you some $




Post Title: Re: (rcabrita)
Posted by: m tr4nch at 1:54 PM 8/6/2008

you sure it's unlimited bandwidth?



Post Title: Re: (m tr4nch)
Posted by: RCA at 2:12 PM 8/6/2008

But I am sure a email to Tom or a look at Myspace's policy would do the trick



Post Title: Re: (rcabrita)
Posted by: BIGTIMER_240 at 3:49 AM 8/7/2008

lower support: 62530-53F25
upper support (89-90): 62510-40F00
upper support (91-93): 62510-53F00 (has the reinforcement pieces)

if you just want the entire front core: 62500-53F00 (upper support has the reinforcement pieces)



Post Title: Re: (m tr4nch)
Posted by: m tr4nch at 10:56 PM 8/7/2008

so anyways.. i did a quick search on google for por-15 and rustbullet, and apparently i'm not the only one having this problem of the rust coming back from using rustbullet .. so i will be getting some por-15 and using that for whatever else i have left

pisses me off though that i had to find this out now after already using it
hopefully i can just patch up those areas that are showing rust-through (with my remaining rustbullet) and spray some rubberized undercoating over it so no air/moisture can do that again.

and if worse comes to worse i will just strip the rustbullet off the places i sandblasted and recoat with por-15. hopefully i won't have to go through all that though.



Post Title: Re: (m tr4nch)
Posted by: op.tic at 12:22 AM 8/8/2008

good luck man. keep up the good work



Post Title: Re: (op.tic)
Posted by: BIGTIMER_240 at 2:30 AM 8/8/2008

must have read over that ....my bad keep up the good work!



Post Title:
Posted by: gregfarz78 at 4:28 AM 8/8/2008

You are indeed a madman. It's too soon to be performing ground-ups on an S13. If it were a 240Z or a 510 I'd understand. That is not to say I'm not blown away by your patience and aptitude, I'm just saying I'd have a difficult time placating you if you told me you were perfectly sane.

p.s. I use Bill Hirsch rust-stopping paint and it sometimes does something similar. The rust continues to form and it cracks open the surface of the paint a week after it cured. But that's usually an indication that what I'm painting over isn't the complete source of the problem.



Post Title: Re:
Posted by: Murdered_T at 1:12 PM 8/13/2008

its pretty much as rusted as mine was!! nice results so far!! keep it up!!



Post Title: Re: (m tr4nch)
Posted by: Huncity240 at 2:32 PM 8/21/2008

also in my researching, i came across this thread Rust Preventive Product Test and what it shows is that rust bullet, por-15, eastwood, masterseries, etc. all basically do the same thing and perform similarly.

i bought some masterseries silver, satin black, and gloss black to use on the parts i have left to do. check it: masterseries

Post Title: Re: (Neil)
Posted by: m tr4nch at 11:15 PM 8/21/2008

yeah i know i'm nuts haha. thanks for the compliments.

Quote, originally posted by GOnissanTOM »

awsome build man, you pay attention to detail like you have been doing this for years.

thanks!

Quote, originally posted by ca20det »

dude welcome in the insane club but you deserve the title of the insaniest ! damn man it must have cost you a buttload of money!!! its pretty much as rusted as mine was!! nice results so far!! keep it up!!

haha yeah man! thanks for checking my thread out, you definitely are beating me with getting sh*t done though haha.

Quote, originally posted by Huncity240 »

why didnt you acid dip the whole car. would have gotten rid of the rust,seam sealer and undercaoting ****. this is after you stripped every last piece of metal plating and everything.

i thought about doing this a long time ago actually. but it's pretty expensive, and it's a lot easier said than done. there's a lot of work you'd have to do afterwards to get all the metal coated again... ALL of it. so i went this route instead.



Post Title:
Posted by: mrgreeneyes at 11:29 PM 8/21/2008

i know that those paddle combo switch lights are 200$ and you have so much oem stuff!



Post Title:
Posted by: n.r.wyatt at 3:34 PM 8/31/2008

Thanks
Nick



Post Title: Re: (n.r.wyatt)
Posted by: sldewyz at 11:56 AM 9/2/2008

this is especially sweet because you are doing everything correctly. Where are you doing it all? in your garage?



Post Title: Re: (sldewyz)
Posted by: S13_love at 12:10 PM 9/2/2008

def. does suck

Quote, originally posted by DruidAT »

What kind of welding are you doing?

mig

Quote, originally posted by s13gebala »

youre crazy with the oem nissan ****! i know that those paddle combo switch lights are 200$ and you have so much oem stuff!

hahaha. i just made another order from nissan actually. should be here in a few weeks

Quote, originally posted by n.r.wyatt »

Your build is inspiring to continue to push through the rust and junk i find on my build. You have any pics of the new sections of frame rails you welded in? Thanks Nick

thanks man. glad to be inspiring
i actually haven't got to replacing those pieces of frame rails yet. will definitely post pics when i do (as usual).

Quote, originally posted by sldewyz »

this thread is down right amazing. this is exactly what i want to do to a s13. tear it down fix everything, start rebuilding it then have fun w/ it. you are doing an amazing job at everything. is anybody helping you with this? i know you said youve done it all by yourself but i didnt know if your dad or someone else helped ya out alot. this is especially sweet because you are doing everything correctly. Where are you doing it all? in your garage?

thanks so far everything up to this point has been done only by myself. my dad helped me out with the dolly and loaning me some of his tools every once in a while, but all the car related work has only been done by me. and yes, it all goes down in my garage.

Quote, originally posted by S13_love »

that is some true dedication right there, well anyways im about to get an s13 240, so can anyone tell me should i be expecting some major rust problems, cause i heard thats what 240's were known to have

depends on where you live, how the previous owner(s) took care of the car, etc. imo, look over the car really good before you make any decisions, especially underneath. if some pieces of the suspension are rusty and the actual chassis is good, i would still get it. those kinds of parts can be easily replaced. but cutting/welding on the chassis is a lot harder obviously. just do some looking around for the right one and be patient.



Post Title: Re: (m tr4nch)
Posted by: DruidAT at 4:51 PM 9/3/2008

Quote, originally posted by DruidAT »

where do you get your oem parts? i need some frame parts to be replaced on my kouki.

http://www.midwaypartsteam.com

Quote, originally posted by BMAR240SX »

You are out of your mind man, i support you but than its like. What are your plans for this car are you going to keep it forever or something?

yeah i plan on keeping it forever. unless it gets wrecked beyond repair somehow.

Quote, originally posted by ANVIL »

so when do you plan on having it back on the road

honestly i don't know. i hope to have all the rust gone by the end of the month/beginning of october. once i get over that hump, it will be a lot easier for everything else to get done.



Post Title: Re: (m tr4nch)
Posted by: Wongger at 4:31 PM 9/20/2008

Quote, originally posted by Wongger »

You.... You are awesome. I would not have the patience to do what you are doing... You must be very loaded..... NICE WORK

thanks to all.

Quote, originally posted by exhsturbine »

i just found this project.... and all the photos are blocked because you have exceeded your bandwidth. and from all the compliments it seems like a good job... i want to see!!!

Quote, originally posted by rsdans240sx »

:bump: fix your pics please

bandwidth got reset today. i made some more photobucket accounts and updated my older posts with new links so that i don't go over anymore

alright so here are some updates.

got the bottom quarter panel piece welded up. i tried my best not to warp it, but it still warped a little. not that big of a deal though since that area will require a little bit of bodywork anyways.

how's my welding now?

can't really tell that well from this pic, but rear bumper fitment is like perfectly aligned.

ready to blast the interior.

blasted and treated with metal prep acid.

remember these areas?

BAM!

and this guy:

patches cut out and trimmed down, prepped, and ready to be welded up:

Post Title: Re: (m tr4nch)
Posted by: m tr4nch at 2:53 AM 10/10/2008

picked up an authentic gp sports g-sonic type r rear valance.

AND... i got my latest nissan order

z32 2+2 e-brake cables

fog light kit. came with everything but the switch and directions :/

speaking of switches...

cigarette lighter assembly, door strikers, hood bumpers

hood hinges, transmission shifter boot

all new lock cylinders. before anyone asks, yeah they are all different and each come with a different set of keys. ALL of the packaged sets were discontinued, and this was the only way to get new ones. i'm gonna have to get them all repinned to one key to make everything easier.

picked up this jdm tyte lighted ignition key ring from ebay

z32 e-brake shoe set, front/rear caliper hardware

front s14 dust shields

new door handles (the dull area is just grease from lubing that spring)

zomg new power window switch bezel/door handles (with new passenger switch)

these actually have a texture on them. not like the shiny worn down ones you always see.

new rear 5-lug hubs and expensive z32 bearings with the lip

bunch of random screws/bolts/nuts/clips/plugs/etc

i guess that's it for now. got a little more sandblasting to do. then some welding and painting underneath, and it will be ready for the body shop!




Post Title:
Posted by: StricNyne at 5:37 AM 10/10/2008

You make my head hurt.
You take 0 shortcuts and do it 100% right!
After seeing this thread I could estimate that this car is worth 10k+.

It is brand new!

HOLY SH*T it is comming out great!



Post Title: Re: (rcabrita)
Posted by: sbird1 at 7:20 PM 10/10/2008

I can promise you that it is not anywhere near a SMALL fortune.

And the car will easily be worth WAY more then 10 Grand when hes done.

I would say at least, 14 Grand with everything but the engine in it.

Tr4nch you better not Ever sell it. And if you one day decide oh i wanna give up on it i will be the first on the list. I would be more then happy to pay that much for that thing Painted with no engine.

Do you plan to race it? or just restore it and collect it? maybe a little bit of both?

Beautiful man, Just beautiful! Keep up the good work!

Are you keeping record of all the part numbers you are ordering?



Post Title: Re: (Ghast)
Posted by: MastaYu at 4:05 PM 10/11/2008

Quote, originally posted by Ghostdrifter88 »

i think you should get a custom title for this great ****. great work man.

if i could get one, it would have to be "insane rust killer"
apparently my chassis dolly write up isn't worthy of a custom title so i was thinking if i have time i might do one for how to fix rust the right way

as for the cost of the oem stuff. it's actually not all that bad. only thing i regret getting was the stupid expensive z32 rear bearings with the lip on them. i could have sourced the "other" anchor pins for the e-brake assembly and got the cheap non-lip bearings and saved myself almost $200 oh well.

i was going to get all new glass also but it would have been another $2,300 for everything after the 20% discount i might still just get a new windshield but i'll worry about that later.

and like i said before, i don't plan on ever selling it. my plan for the car is mostly daily driving, only in nice weather of course. i probably won't drive it in the rain anymore, and definitely not in the winter (or at least up until the first snow falls). the only water this car will see is when i wash it haha. and it will be garage kept. i will be doing spirited driving and might do some autocross at the track occasionally just for fun, but that's about it. most likely won't be doing any drifting. i think grip is cooler anyways
and yes, i have a huge excel sheet with all the parts i've ordered, and others on there if i need them in the future.

Post Title: Re: (m tr4nch)
Posted by: tEknoS13 at 8:58 PM 10/11/2008

Quote, originally posted by tEknoS13 »

About that custom title..... how about "240sx Porn Director" great job

haha

Post Title: Re: (m tr4nch)
Posted by: tEknoS13 at 8:30 PM 10/12/2008

i can't wait to see more on the car. i wish i had the money and a garage to do something like this to my s13, i got lucky on getting a decent chassis tho so if i keep it clean it wont get any rust.



Post Title: Re: (137)
Posted by: tEknoS13 at 10:18 AM 10/14/2008

yes i did, thank you haha



Post Title:
Posted by: tjmhillz at 11:00 AM 10/14/2008

At least you still have a place to work on the car. When my parents wanted my shlt out of the driveway, I had to sell everything for super cheap.



Post Title:
Posted by: TwoJayZee240 at 7:26 PM 10/16/2008

Take it off their hands, I am sure they won't mind



Post Title: Re: (rcabrita)
Posted by: m tr4nch at 12:18 AM 10/17/2008

so i got the car moved into my new work area last night. huge thanks to carlos (StricNyne) and my buddy jeff for helping me out. i did end up getting a 6x12 open trailer from uhaul and the car fit in there like perfectly. i forgot to take pics though. we managed to load it, transport, and unload it without any problems thankfully, i just wish i had some more straps to use. now i just have to move my welder and a bunch of other crap in there and i'll start getting some stuff done.

AND, i am done with the chassis sandblasting w00t!
so my car is rust free now, well as much as i can help it anyways. still have to do some small spots on the fenders, doors, random brackets. but other than that, all that's really left is welding up all the patches and some painting

here are some action shots of me doing some sandblasting yesterday before we made the move:

Post Title: Re: (m tr4nch)
Posted by: MoldyOldy240 at 7:59 AM 10/17/2008

I really like the attention to detail that you are showing here. With that being said, if I send my car to you with a big bag with a dollar sign on it will you do the same for me :P

Good build, keep us posted!



Post Title: Re: (MoldyOldy240)
Posted by: tEknoS13 at 10:59 PM 10/17/2008

thanks man! honestly i don't ever want to do this kind of crap again lol. it's a lot of hard, tedious work. although they say the first time is the hardest/longest right?

Quote, originally posted by tEknoS13 »

m tr4nch, you should shows us the "SHOW STOPPER" next time.

lol wut

Quote, originally posted by nightsauce »

i know you said they were expensive, but how much were the z32 hubs/bearings altogether? I'm in the midst of purchasing parts for my 5lug/z32 brake upgrade, but i havent purchased the hubs ( the key component i know :-( )

the rear hubs themselves weren't bad, they were $101 each. the bearings with the lip though were $204.42 each
the price for the bearings w/o the lip was $90.34 each. big friggin difference. i should have just got those and searched for a pair of the thicker e-brake anchor pins (more info on that stuff can be found here).
oh well, the way i see it is that i won't have to buy new bearings for like another 10 or so years if that. so fcuk it



Post Title: Re: (m tr4nch)
Posted by: antp at 6:14 PM 10/18/2008

Quote, originally posted by antp »

That is the most sweetest thread ever keep it coming. you have just proved that no car is 100% rust free but you will be able to say MINE IS! GOOD LUCK man. JUST AMAZING

thanks d00d
and thanks for your first post being in my thread haha.



Post Title: Re: (m tr4nch)
Posted by: antp at 7:33 PM 10/20/2008

keep up the awesome work!



Post Title: Re: (AreszONE)
Posted by: hsckris at 9:08 AM 10/30/2008

Quote, originally posted by tjmhillz »

damn matt your car is coming along nice.. when i get home ill help out.. ill be carless for a while though dropping my car off in delaware to get some goodies done to the motor heheheh

There are goodies for a motor in Delaware?? ...That's news to me



Post Title: Re: (Touge')
Posted by: nightsauce at 8:24 PM 11/15/2008

I have the exact same car, black 93 base model

first day i got it

mine was rusty as well, but you have inspired me to fix the rust!
my car will be rustfree by next week

Amazing job man



Post Title: Re: This thread is full of win. (StandardProspect)
Posted by: RCA at 7:22 PM 11/24/2008

Quote, originally posted by StandardProspect »

mine was rusty as well, but you have inspired me to fix the rust! my car will be rustfree by next week Amazing job man

I hope the previous owner gave you a 1yr head start



Post Title: Re: This thread is full of win. (rcabrita)
Posted by: StandardProspect at 7:33 PM 11/24/2008

i guess that did sound kind of rediculous

ive been working on my rust for a long time and the final step is getting the frame and part of the floorpan patched. My car is coming back from the motorsports shop next week all patched up

i didnt have as much rust as matt, but he inspired me to get all of mine fixed. his resto however is much more meticulous than mine.

Keep up the amazing work man
this is the best 240 restoration ive ever seen



Post Title:
Posted by: Coolwhip at 8:49 PM 11/24/2008

Nice resto. I need those new interior door pieces now.



Post Title: Re: (breadbox)
Posted by: ThatSRguy at 1:54 PM 12/8/2008

I LOVE MY S13!!!!



Post Title: Re: Execelent Restore! (WOLFANATOR13)
Posted by: m tr4nch at 6:10 PM 12/10/2008

Quote, originally posted by WOLFANATOR13 »

1 million thumbs up on this restore! but also makes me cry when i look at my chassis' and know there is that much rust coming out on mine! keep up the awesome work!

thank you everyone for the comments. i'm happy that i'm inspiring all of you it makes me feel good about what i'm doing and keeps me motivated.

sorry there hasn't been any updates in a while, i've been busy with "life" stuff lately hopefully soon though i will have some updates for you guys.



Post Title: Re: (nightsauce)
Posted by: m tr4nch at 6:14 PM 12/10/2008

thanks man. i saw your thread best of luck with everything.

Quote, originally posted by rcabrita »

Its funny because Trench started a thread while spending months and months trying to become "rust free" and you plan on doing it by next week? I hope the previous owner gave you a 1yr head start

Quote, originally posted by Coolwhip »

So this is where you been hiding, damn good thread man, awesome work.

haha thanks man.

Quote, originally posted by StricNyne »

yeah tranch is the man !!! the guys dedication to perfection, and the work he did on my car is a direct reflection of his skill !!! his car once finished it gunna be balls to the wall

i try not to half-*** anything

Quote, originally posted by ThatSRguy »

i almost hate rust as much as Matt

lol

edit: 777th post.. am i lucky? heh



Post Title: Re: (m tr4nch)
Posted by: carmo at 10:50 AM 12/15/2008

Good job thus far, and I'm looking forward to motor swap time



Post Title: Re: (carmo)
Posted by: m tr4nch at 11:59 AM 12/15/2008

i was actually looking at your adapter brackets. i'm holding off on buying anymore parts though until i know how much bodywork/paint is going to cost me. i'll let you know.



Post Title: Re: (m tr4nch)
Posted by: chitown_240sx at 2:26 AM 12/26/2008

Quote, originally posted by chitown_240sx »

WOW!!! This is the best thread ever ... I usually don't read this things or stay on the forums long enough to read them but, damn. Wut your doing to ur car is the same thing I want to do to mine. I know u put up the links to where u got ur OEM placements parts but, the midwaypartsteam.com link does not work. Are those the only two u use???

thanks yeah they actually changed their website name to http://www.onlyfactoryparts.com so try that instead.



Post Title: Re: (m tr4nch)
Posted by: jpnissans13 at 8:11 PM 12/28/2008

u are like my hero now!!



Post Title: Re: (m tr4nch)
Posted by: Z_Fanatic at 5:41 AM 1/9/2009

Keep it up!



Post Title: Re: (Z_Fanatic)
Posted by: ILOVESILVIA(S13) at 10:10 AM 1/10/2009

Props to you Sir!!



Post Title: Re: (ILOVESILVIA(S13))
Posted by: mcheddadi at 9:06 PM 1/14/2009

as always, thanks for the comments.



Post Title: Re: (m tr4nch)
Posted by: Kaleo55 at 8:01 PM 1/20/2009

Is it a catalog or the internet or what?



Post Title: Re: (tEknoS13)
Posted by: TroubleBound at 9:05 PM 1/21/2009

how many times...?



Post Title: Re: (TroubleBound)
Posted by: m tr4nch at 10:59 PM 1/21/2009

yeah srsly it's been posted about 5 times now. midway did change the url though, it's http://www.onlyfactoryparts.com now.



Post Title:
Posted by: CRyan at 11:21 PM 1/21/2009

Quote, originally posted by ca20det »

really good job man but you should as much as possible avoid continuous welding beads... you should rather use plug welds and seal the edges of your pieces welded on.... you should also gring a little bit your welds to avoid moisture to stay in all the crevasses of the welds/porosity.... as for the parte you took off from where the front seat was bolted to, you really should replace these because they serve a purpose of spreading the impact load in case of an accident instead of the bolt tearing the surrounding metal

thanks for the tips man. the only reason i'm not overlapping the metal and doing plug welds is because i'm trying to avoid the seams rusting between the 2 layers of metal again. and trust me, those seat mounting braces will be replaced with 16 gauge plates on both sides.

the only real big things i have left to do is fab up my patches for the frame rail sections, seat mounts, and door hinge mounts, and that will basically be it. i already have the sheet metal cut out and bent, i just have to trim everything down for fitment and weld everything up.

thanks for the comments



Post Title: Re: (m tr4nch)
Posted by: krayzie94 at 3:01 PM 2/6/2009

Quote, originally posted by krayzie94 »

What thickness of metal will you be using to patch up the rails?

2 layers of 16 gauge. check back a few pages, there are a couple pics of it.



Post Title: Re: (m tr4nch)
Posted by: Sabot at 1:32 PM 2/7/2009

i dont know if i missed it, but i was wondering where you acquired your motor from?

im looking forward to my future rb build and definitely using your thread for reference.



Post Title: Re: (punk138)
Posted by: m tr4nch at 10:41 AM 2/19/2009

i got the motor from heavy throttle back when they still sold rb's. they actually sold me their last rb25 back in '05 because they were having problems with their shipper receiving the motorsets with rb20 trannys mounted (i had to wait like 2-3 months before they got a good one with a rb25 trans). thanks to jeff over there, he hooked me up with some free AN turbo coolant lines.



Post Title: Re: (m tr4nch)
Posted by: jungle at 8:26 AM 2/23/2009

I almost feel the need to start a donation to get you some heating in the garage so you can work it out during the winter as well.

I, along with everyone else on this forum is anxiously waiting on the conclusion of this rebuild, so please don't give up!!

Some magazine should do a interview on you I swear. But either way, if your garage is anywhere near the city, I'd love to come by one day with some of my friends, just to admire the hard work and see if we can squeeze some advices out of you, and see if we can help out or anything.

peace.

I'll be patiently waiting for your next update!!



Post Title: Re: (jungle)
Posted by: KillTheApex at 12:57 AM 2/26/2009

Inspiring.

Keep the updates coming man. I will see this through to the end with you. Like Sam and Frodo...but not gay.



Post Title: Re: (KillTheApex)
Posted by: CM_Nismo at 10:04 PM 3/3/2009

yes it should be possible you live in texas its hot and dry there, if you lived where I do we pay a premium for a rust free 240 everything over 10 years old around here starts turning into a rust bucket unless its garage kept



Post Title: Re: (gregfarz78)
Posted by: XMSducksauce at 3:25 PM 4/4/2009

A lot of texas isn't really that dry. Arizona is probably one of the best states to find rust free shells sitting in it.



Post Title: Re: (Hijacker)
Posted by: Philipio at 10:13 AM 4/29/2009

its in the thread somewhere but you can find OEM parts from courtsey nissan online too



Post Title:
Posted by: StricNyne at 1:43 AM 5/29/2009

here's my car in the new space

currently working on the upper door hinge patches. what a bitch...
left=original, middle=paper templates, right=roughly cut & bent

working on the driver's side first. after some trimming, fits like a gloovvvve

what it looks like without the patch (for comparison):

stay tuned



Post Title: Re: (m tr4nch)
Posted by: XMSducksauce at 8:01 PM 6/9/2009

Nice job, I pretty much suck at metal fab right now... but considering my lack of fab tools or experience I guess I shouldn't be concerned.

Post Title: Re: (hbpignosePA)
Posted by: m tr4nch at 8:25 PM 6/9/2009

Quote, originally posted by hbpignosePA »

hey i heard/saw you were at the meet sunday..... i didnt get a chance to talk to you at all.... nice work. hopefully next time we can see this one there too

yeah i was there. i talked to didderson for a min, checked out the rest of the cars, went and grabbed the cooler from my car, and next thing you know you guys up and left wish i got a chance to meet/talk with you and white comet. but the next one, whenever that is, for sure



Post Title: Re: (Didderson)
Posted by: m tr4nch at 8:27 PM 6/9/2009

lol yeah man. that's it, i am going to beast this sh1t out and get it done
and thanks, yeah metal fab kinda sucks doing but it's sweet when things come out good.



Post Title: Re: (m tr4nch)
Posted by: Dizel01 at 8:57 PM 6/9/2009

Look forward to seeing the finished product.

Are you leaving the factory turbo on the car initially, or doing some mods to the RB before you put it in?



Post Title: Re: (Dizel01)
Posted by: m tr4nch at 7:55 PM 6/10/2009

Quote, originally posted by Dizel01 »

Yes!! Your back on the restoration!! I also missed out on meeting you at the S-chassis meet. I was with WC, Didderson and HB Pignose. It was a good showing though. Def gotta do it again.

yessir, next meet for sure.

Quote, originally posted by stockbee »

quite a project you've got going on there. Look forward to seeing the finished product. Are you leaving the factory turbo on the car initially, or doing some mods to the RB before you put it in?

i will be leaving the engine stock for a while. only things i will be replacing/upgrading for now are the normal swap-maintenance parts: timing belt/water pump/spark plugs/etc.

anyways, i finished the driver's side door hinge patches. just have to drill the holes for the bolts to go through. i didn't think it would come out as good as it did:

i will be working on the passenger's side in the next few days when i get a chance.



Post Title: Re: (m tr4nch)
Posted by: 1990-240sxsr20det at 9:50 PM 6/14/2009

First thing I'm thinking of is the rust on the support rails.

SIR, I SALUTE YOU. (and give thumbs up)

Post Title: Re: m tr4nch's restoration/build thread !! (RamonetB)
Posted by: m tr4nch at 11:56 PM 7/18/2009

thanks d00d, i appreciate it. i love being able to inspire others.

as for updates, idk when that is going to happen because my mom got in a really bad car accident 2 weeks ago so i've been focusing all of my time on being with her.

anyways, before that i had just started working on the frame rail pieces.
so be patient and i will update when i get back into it.



Post Title: Re: m tr4nch's restoration/build thread !! (m tr4nch)
Posted by: Dorgie at 4:02 AM 8/11/2009

thanks for saving an s-13, hell ya.

Post Title: Re: (m tr4nch)
Posted by: aefremov at 1:00 PM 9/2/2009

I am actually doing similar type of restoration myself, mine rusted in exactly the same spots. So far I have fixed the drivers side strut tower bottom, both strut tower top plates, both rocker panels(reinforced them with 2x2 16 gauage channels on the inside), fixed driver side rail at the front, fixed rails at the back under the trunk, fixed drivers floor. and currently working on the driver side door hinge mount just like yours.
There is actually another piece underneith the top patch, but I think its ok, cause that thick piece inside where the door bolts go is structural. What gauage are you using for the patch? I am using 22 for the inside and planning to use 18 for the outside patch.
It is great to see someone doing the same type of restoration job.

Post Title: Re: (aefremov)
Posted by: m tr4nch at 9:21 PM 9/2/2009

thanks

yeah i know what you're talking about. there are 2 layers there because that's where the a-pillar and that bottom panel meet up so they overlap (over the other structural piece where the hinge bolts go). i found it to be pretty much the same thickness of metal to just throw on a single 16 gauge patch instead of 2 layers of thinner metal again (don't want to run the risk of them rusting out in between them again).



Post Title: Re: m tr4nch's restoration/build thread !! (barefoot mat)
Posted by: S13_love at 8:44 PM 9/3/2009

Agreed.



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Posted by: sx moneypit at 5:30 AM 9/4/2009

i forgot you were going RB!

u think this will be done for the next philly meet?

hope to see it!

on a sidenote did you get the engine crossmember w the motor package?

i am looking for just an r32 crossmember



Post Title: Re: m tr4nch's restoration/build thread !! (hbpignosePA)
Posted by: m tr4nch at 7:26 PM 9/4/2009

i got the (r33) crossmember seperately from jhot after i got the rb. and as far as being done soon/by the next philly meet, to be honest probably not (see one of my previous posts).

you guys going to d1 tomorrow? i'm gonna try and get there (it's about 20 mins from my house).

Quote, originally posted by sx moneypit »

saw john-s-13 project for the first time yesterday.nice bunch of parts .but i think yours is alot more tough of a project than his is . keep up the hard work it will be worth all the sweat

thanks man. yeah it's tough because of the damn rust repairs, and yeah i hope it's worth it in the end lol.



Post Title: Re: m tr4nch's restoration/build thread !! (m tr4nch)
Posted by: hbpignosePA at 7:50 PM 9/4/2009

i want to get alot more done on the s12 this holiday weekend



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Posted by: sublimemoment at 10:03 PM 9/4/2009

Quote, originally posted by splintercell »

INSANE RESTORATION BRO!!!!! im very thankful my car is a VA car. cant wait to see updates!!!

thanks dude. i've seen your thread, your car is amazingly clean

Quote, originally posted by comatoseculture »

Hey man, Indeed your thread is truly great. It's unique, descriptive, and very enjoyable. I wanted to say that I hope everything is ok with your mom. Much respect for being there for her. Hope everything gets better quickly. Thanks for taking all the time to post/read the stuff that was involved in making this thread. I'd like to shake your hand.

thanks man i appreciate the kind words. my mom means the world to me, and she's getting better every day so i'm happy. basically if i'm not at work, i'm at her house taking care of her/hanging out with her. so the car is on the back burner for now until she gets better.
... and i'm so close! lol

whoa 43,000 views too huh?



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Posted by: adollarwodbnice at 6:29 AM 9/8/2009

family def comes first...take very good care of her

thanks man im glad i stayed up till almost 2am sat night reading your thread well you def have me beat in the most brand new oem nissan parts...you prob have more than anyone on the east coast...me maybe VA

you inspired me to go the extra yard this winter and finish my restoration and pick over the car with a keen eye.



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Posted by: m tr4nch at 12:20 PM 9/12/2009

for sure man. thanks for taking the time to look through the whole thread.
as far as the oem parts, i wouldn't be surprised lol. and just to think, i still have at least one, maybe 2 more orders left to make one of these days
and like i said before, i'm glad i can inspire other people while doing all of this.



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Posted by: StricNyne at 12:54 PM 9/12/2009

You said you had no previous auto experience, what did you use to help you through the project? Nico?

To me it seems like completely stripping down a car and building it back up would be very difficult not having any help/experience..?

thanks.



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Posted by: m tr4nch at 3:24 PM 9/13/2009

thank you. i just read a lot of things, did lots of research, and kept going with it. yeah i used nico, also zilvia, 240sxforums, random places found with google, etc..
but reading is one thing, actually doing it is where the real experience is. also i love doing resto jobs (mostly on smaller, simpler things though) so it's programmed in me and i always wanted to do a car. didn't think it would be my s13 though haha.



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Posted by: StylesCD at 3:52 PM 9/13/2009

don't wanna sound like a dick, but did you read anything on the last page? it's in there, as well as elsewhere in the thread. sorry i'm just tired of reposting everything over again after a few times.

welcome to nico btw. enjoy.



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Posted by: 2legit2quit at 7:59 PM 9/13/2009

yeah.



Post Title: Re: m tr4nch's restoration/build thread !! (m tr4nch)
Posted by: Cody240 at 9:32 PM 9/13/2009

mostly i just see you're trying to suffocate the sucker using lots of shrink wrap



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Posted by: slipknot555_666_69 at 9:23 PM 9/21/2009

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Posted by: SR20_FLO at 10:34 AM 10/6/2009

but.. i guess no one was reading my posts on the last page

and josebronx i think you're the only other NT'er on here besides me hah



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Posted by: blazinrola80 at 12:45 PM 10/6/2009

not only is this a kick a** time consuming restoration project you got going, but i live in new hampshire and it gives me alot of little nooks to check for rust, luckily i have none yet (car came from georgia) but its an awsome guideline for me! thanks alot!!

Post Title: Re: m tr4nch's restoration/build thread !! (m tr4nch)
Posted by: VG_240 at 2:22 AM 11/11/2009

Can't wait to find me a 240 and start working on my dream car...

Nice Stuff!



Post Title: Re: m tr4nch's restoration/build thread !! (VG_240)
Posted by: Lonismos14 at 6:38 AM 11/11/2009

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