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Posted by: dickie at 2:37 PM 7/24/2006
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Posted by: dickie at 2:37 PM 7/24/2006
two is better then 1 
You like the Toyota oil filter? Hahaha! We love Toyota/Lexus, too! Well, at least my partner does. I switched to Nissan a long time ago after the AE86 got whored out thanks to Initial Dud and the prices for AE86 were surpassing RPS13 in Japan.
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Posted by: Florida240sx at 3:27 PM 7/24/2006
Also, the turbo outlet pipe on the drivers side will impact the steering column. To get around that, we designed a flange to "wrap" further towards the inside of the column. Because of the custom flange, we had to ensure the right side flange was equal in volume and flow. Uneven back pressure is no fun. I mentioned on my site that we will release a kit for this swap this fall to include all the necessary pieces to do the job correctly Custom subframe, oil pan, turbo exhaust flanges (outlets), engine mounts, exhaust piece, oil filter relocator and SMICs. The only thing I can't do is supply an engine and tranny. That would make it too expensive for our community, I think. But, as they all say, if someone wants it bad enough, it can be done.
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Posted by: One_Love at 3:47 PM 7/24/2006
thats all
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Posted by: 9240sx at 4:44 PM 7/24/2006
And is it just me or is there alot more space up front over the z32??Looks like it to me..Looks like you could run the stock s13 fan shroud..
Again
Any 1/4mile times??..Kills...Hows it feel...Stuff like that..more info!
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Posted by: Florida240sx at 4:50 PM 7/24/2006
If so then there are other oilpan options out there if you're willing to comb the yards. One might possibly result in not having to section the X-member.
This could bring the costs of your kits down.
This is an idea. Anyways I like the way it sits in there.
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Posted by: QuickerThanU at 3:28 AM 7/25/2006
. Do u have an approximate price range for this kit?| Quote, originally posted by D2180SX » |
| I mentioned on my site that we will release a kit for this swap this fall to include all the necessary pieces to do the job correctly. |
Where do I sign up? 
Post Title: Re: (lord_hypnos)
Posted by: Reno at 4:25 AM 7/25/2006
XD 
| Quote, originally posted by D2180SX » |
| Yes, the stock fan shroud will fit, if you wanted to go that direction. I made sure that the engine sat as close to the center as possible, and one rule we stuck with was to not exceed the length of the KA or SR or CA that would normally sit in this chassis. We kept the stock fan shroud in mind in the event that we would have to resort to that. But, the twin electrics work just fine. |
I am so jealous. Props to you for doing it. Even more if you make a kit for the swap. I know I've been looking at eventually doing something like this. You make it look so clean and so easy. How long did it take you to do it anyway?
Post Title: Re: (9240sx)
Posted by: D2180SX at 4:51 AM 7/25/2006
In summary, this car is gonna get worked and I will keep our community updated via the forum and on the business site on what is happening to give our community more viable, safe, non-jury-rigged hybrid swap options without busting big bank to do it.
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Posted by: D2180SX at 5:01 AM 7/25/2006
| Quote, originally posted by pallnet » |
| Does the VG30E and VG30ET oilpans fit on the VG30DE and VG30DETT? If so then there are other oilpan options out there if you're willing to comb the yards. One might possibly result in not having to section the X-member. This is an idea. Anyways I like the way it sits in there. |
We looked at all possible options. We have working examples of VG30ET, VG20ET, VG30E, VG33E oil pans and subframes. With the subframe, there was no getting around it. We could have designed a completely one-off subframe, but the cost to the end-user would put the concept out of the reach of most. I didn't want to do that. I'm blue-collar and I want to always keep the average guy and girl in mind when I do things like this. For me to take an S13 subframe, notch it correctly and beef it up with fabricated engine mount hard point locations is easier and a cheaper proposition AND we were able to keep the stock steering rack location intact.
Post Title: Re: (QuickerThanU)
Posted by: D2180SX at 5:11 AM 7/25/2006
The core of the kit would consist of the subframe, oil pan, oil filter relocator kit, engine mounts and transmission mount. I know some people would just rather have the subframe and mounts. I can make things in packages depending on what the customer wants. As we get close to the end, I will advertise the price on the site. I will say that the kit will be within the price range of 75% of the people here and that you won't have to go out and take a loan to get the kit. I want everybody to be able to do this swap, if they wish to.
| Quote, originally posted by QuickerThanU » |
| Make a vid of the 240 racing that sexy beast in the back on the first picture . Do u have an approximate price range for this kit? |
| Quote, originally posted by lord_hypnos » |
Where do I sign up? |
Believe it, this kit will be made available.
| Quote, originally posted by lord_hypnos » |
I am so jealous. Props to you for doing it. Even more if you make a kit for the swap. I know I've been looking at eventually doing something like this. You make it look so clean and so easy. How long did it take you to do it anyway? |
| Quote, originally posted by D2180SX » |
| It took about a month to do the designs, a week to do the test fit and fabrication in house. We did not work everyday on this car to get it to this stage. I've got other projects going concurrently with the UK version 200SX shop car and other customer work. Believe it, this kit will be made available. |
I'll start savin now.
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Posted by: nizmo_dryfta at 8:17 AM 7/25/2006
| Quote, originally posted by lord_hypnos » |
| I'll start savin now. |
Off topic, is that a C6 Z06 I see in the background? You referred to the VG 240 as a torque monster. How's the Vette drive??? Any pics?
I really like the S13, but I love the Vette!
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Posted by: lord_hypnos at 8:53 AM 7/25/2006
| Quote, originally posted by IWannaS15 » |
| Nice job... Off topic, is that a C6 Z06 I see in the background? You referred to the VG 240 as a torque monster. How's the Vette drive??? Any pics? I really like the S13, but I love the Vette! |
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Posted by: Reno at 10:03 AM 7/25/2006
and where would be the best place to get the motor and tranny? 
The Z06 drives better than a Ford GT and the Porsche Carrera GT, and far less expensive. It drives and handles like a kitten, and anybody could drive it in a normal manner, but hit the gas and start shifting, you are where you need to go before you thought that was where you needed to go. Chevrolet took their LeMans car technology and put it in the Z06. We've been out on Friday nites and blew doors off a few Lambo Murcielagos out by Bahrain International Circuit (first race of F1). We're hunting for a Ferrari Enzo to take down, but nobody will take the challenge right now. Thamer, the owner, drives that Z06 like it was made for him. His other car is a C5 with a crate race motor and tranny. He holds the record of 9.46 for the fastest Vette in the Gulf, and he did it without using laughing gas. Will the VG240 be able to run in the same company? Hmmmm... We can only try!
| Quote, originally posted by IWannaS15 » |
| Nice job... Off topic, is that a C6 Z06 I see in the background? You referred to the VG 240 as a torque monster. How's the Vette drive??? Any pics? I really like the S13, but I love the Vette! |
| Quote, originally posted by IWannaS15 » |
| hypnos, are you kidding me? I'm a Nissan fan like most guys on this board, but if a Z06 cost the same as a 10 yr old 240sx, the highway would look a lot different. |
| Quote, originally posted by IWannaS15 » |
| hypnos, are you kidding me? I'm a Nissan fan like most guys on this board, but if a Z06 cost the same as a 10 yr old 240sx, the highway would look a lot different. |
| Quote, originally posted by lord_hypnos » |
| So what do you think would be a ballpark estimate for the kit cost? |
VG30ET S13 built by Rick
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2324257
VQ30DE S13 built by Broaner
http://maxima.cardomain.com/ride/767108
VQ30DE/VQ35DE Hybrid S14 built by Fred_Allen_Burge
http://www.engineswaptech.com/
LS1 S14.5 built by 240sx-ls1
http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/...67840
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Posted by: Reno at 5:42 PM 7/25/2006
| Quote, originally posted by D2180SX » |
| If I mention a price here, the moderators would think I'm trying to sell or line up business. I don't wanna get black-balled. It's best to write to me and I can give you more info, if you like. You can go to either of my sites listed and write me. |
| Quote, originally posted by USsil80 » |
| also is there any room for upgrading the turbos... staying twin and putting on a good turbo with a equall length manifold |
maybe, but for now, we're trying to keep things as sensible as possible, find all the weak points/strong points of the VG240, learn the engine and car all over before we start messing around with custom manifolds and turbos. A good stock VG30DETT in this chassis is plenty enough already. As someone already said, it's like a Z32 that went on a diet. This car will give you whiplash, and it is scary how it clips along and pulls you into the seatback If a person wanted to upgrade the turbos, I would recommend sticking with internal wastegate, so the GT28RS in a twin configuration would be more than plenty. The stock manifolds are short enough already, and I don't see any real benefit of customizing a set. I guess if the aesthetics mattered to someone, why not, but it's not like you can see them anyway.
Who inspired me to do this? 300SX, of course. I admire his work in both the S13 and S14. My challenge was to swap without cancelling anything, and I was able to do it and get it running. Now, as the kit becomes a reality, I am depending on our community to provide feedback and for someone else to come up with further refinement, if that is possible.
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Posted by: Reno at 8:03 PM 7/27/2006
| Quote, originally posted by Reno » |
| ^^ sweet i want in!! |
Hey! Just write me at postmaster@180sxfaktory.com to be put on my list of serious folks who are contemplating doing this swap
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Posted by: memole at 7:34 PM 8/1/2006
| Quote, originally posted by TheOne » |
| why does.......for some reason the 240sx engine bay looks easier to work in a vg30 than workin a vg30 in a 300zx?(for those who have seen the 300zx engine bay....and worked on them, i've seen'em, also worked a couple of things and damn is it cramped) |
yeah dood i know wat u talking about. my friend has a 300zTT and i hate just looking at the engine bay b/c its sooo cramped. im like, man it must suck to work on this car? i love my engine bay b/c there is so much space to work on! 
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Posted by: D2180SX at 2:26 AM 8/4/2006
| Quote, originally posted by redears240 » |
yeah dood i know wat u talking about. my friend has a 300zTT and i hate just looking at the engine bay b/c its sooo cramped. im like, man it must suck to work on this car? i love my engine bay b/c there is so much space to work on! |
Yeah, as I told one of my clients, the 300ZX was built around the VG30DETT, and I think Nissan had ET (not Eddie Torres, but ET, the Extra-Terrestrial), with his magical long fingers, in mind when they figured out who could maintain it without dropping the whole engine/transmission out of the bottom just to facilitate regular maintenance. I've done enough of those "regular maintenance" jobs on Z32, and it ain't fun. If you own one and you take it somewhere for maintenance and they charge extra, don't get mad, just be glad that someone is willing to touch it. Who knows, maybe they have ET or Eddie Torres there to do his magic!
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Posted by: steaminhotryce at 3:02 AM 8/4/2006
Here's some pics of the subframe and the transmission crossmember for the VG30DETT swap. Enjoy!
This is the heart of the kit to make it sit just right. As you can see, I did not remove any power steering lines or anything. The transmission crossmember is completely one-off and was designed with the Z32 and the S13 crossmember influences. The subframe is notched and reinforced inside. How? It's chambered with ribs. I use the same 5mm plate steel throughout and reinforced the factory welds, as needed. The subframe and the crossmember- they will break you before you can break them.
Again, thanks for looking and drop me a line!
Post Title: Re: VG30DETT into 1989 240SX (D2180SX)
Posted by: R6_240sx at 3:38 AM 8/5/2006
| Quote, originally posted by bboyp1ng » |
Damn that thing has more clearance then a regular 300zx! |
Yes, it does, and another benefit is that the inherent heat soak problem that has plagued some Z32 is not there in the S13 with VG30DETT. You can say that there is some benefit from having more "free space" for heat transfer out of the car. Just simple physics and common sense.
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Posted by: 180sxfaktory at 6:11 AM 8/9/2006
Apparently, this full swap has caught the attention and interest of those who have been wanting to see something like this done to the extent it has. We have drag season starting next month, so right now, we're just tweaking the car. I'm excited about how this car will do. The kit itself is still on track for a late September release. Those of you who wrote to me about it, thanks!
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Posted by: ArticDragon192 at 10:13 AM 8/9/2006
tj
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Posted by: 180sxfaktory at 12:25 PM 8/9/2006
Yes, this car looks like crap, and we were driving it for a while until the water pump in the previous VG took a dump. Yes, this is another engine from a 1989 300ZX. The engine that you see now pushed a 1989 300ZX to a 11 sec 1320 and clocked in at 220 KPH (138.6 MPH). This Miata has a complete custom front and rear subframe, a 300ZX rear end with LSD. We're also getting this car ready for drag duty. Should be fun to drive/watch it take down some unsuspecting Skylines and such. Of course, we're fabricating a roll cage! Anybody need a Miata engine with tranny?
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Posted by: Till The Morning at 1:32 PM 8/9/2006
Come september I think I'm going to have to buy your kit.
Keep the good work up
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Posted by: kouki munster at 1:50 PM 8/9/2006
I'm thinking of calling these things "Mayhem"
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Posted by: D2180SX at 2:00 PM 8/9/2006
I dont think Ive seen a Miata built into a drag car...
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Posted by: PantherRacer at 2:38 PM 8/9/2006
Any performance numbers/weight on the car yet?
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Posted by: mrflip69 at 1:16 AM 8/10/2006
Also, just curious about why you retained the SMICs, besides the point you've already made to just get a fully functioning VG in there. Any room in the future to go FMIC?
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Posted by: D2180SX at 6:01 AM 8/10/2006
| Quote, originally posted by miroS14a » |
| I would definately be interested in the swap if you produced an S14 kit. It would probably be easier to fit into an S14 than an S13. Any performance numbers/weight on the car yet? |
So would I, but I'm going to have to import a 95-98 240SX or EDM 200SX to tailor this package. Yes, it doesn't take hard math to figure that the S14 chassis is going to be an easier go than the S13. Here in Bahrain, we only have one S14, and it already has a 2JZGTE swap with this crazy T78 stuck out of the hood. I tried to get the car off the guy, but he won't sell it. So, my only alternative is to buy one or have someone send me theirs, and I'll do the entire R&D and make the kit based off of it. Anybody who wants to be the first S14 with a complete clean swap VG30DETT or VG30DE (that means nothing cancelled from the VG30DETT or the S14; retain all factory options and essentials), drop me a line. Serious inquiries only, and it will require a lot of faith and trust on behalf of all parties concerned.
Anyway, I have an ECR33, but here again, I'm not gonna base an S14 swap on a different chassis code, regardless of how similar they are. I've been asked to do so, but it wouldn't be right.
Performance/numbers- we'll see next month when test and tune starts. I will tell you now that the car will give you whiplash. A the drop of the clutch, it'll do donuts for days. It pulls strong through all the gears, and you'd swear that this engine was modded, but it is not. Just bone-stock VG30DETT put into a lighter chassis with better CG. When everything is sweet, I'll do video of it and post it.
Modified by D2180SX at 6:58 AM 8/10/2006
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Posted by: D2180SX at 6:12 AM 8/10/2006
| Quote, originally posted by PantherRacer » |
| my thoughts as of now. Screw the RB30 lol. I think I'll do the VG swap when I get the time/money! |
RB swaps into S13. I dig them, and I'll do one with equal weight distribution via lead plates next year. I guess it goes against the popular argument that I would be defeating the pupose of putting a high-hp engine into a light car by adding weight. Any weight I add will be in locations to equalize it out to 49/51. This and chassis strengthening and reinforcement combined with beefier suspension should make that argument moot. But we shall see...
Pro's for going with VG into S13:
- VG30DETT swaps and technical support is plentiful in North America and Europe
- Aftermarket (JWT is the biggest, then STILLEN) and OEM replacement parts/manufacturers are more plentiful than for RB/CA/SR (going from scarce to available in this order)
- Weight distribution in the S13 chassis is better due to CG being moved to the center of the car versus in-line 6/V8 (yes, there is an argument that LS1 doesn't add weight to the nose)
- A Nissan dealership repair center can work on your engine and transmission (if you want them to; not everybody is wrench-inclined)
I guess you can add to this list, but in the end, VG seems to be the smarter option to go, since not everybody has the support of a major Japanese parts manufacturer for RB.
Post Title: Re: (mrflip69)
Posted by: D2180SX at 6:26 AM 8/10/2006
| Quote, originally posted by mrflip69 » |
| Man, nice work! Now when you say nothing was deleted, is everything still located under the hood? I think it was 300sx who changed and moved his brake setup under the dash. Did you have to do anything crazy like that? Also, just curious about why you retained the SMICs, besides the point you've already made to just get a fully functioning VG in there. Any room in the future to go FMIC? |
Hi! If you look at the pictures, you can see the master brake cylinder. It and the clutch master cylinder are in their stock location. I did not have to hide anything. The reason why is because we spent a lot of time with taking measurements, test-fitted and monkeyed around with a few designs before settling for the configuration you see. The main goal was to not cancel anything. That goal was achieved.
300ZX- I owe it all to him and for his knowledge. I e-mailed him, he gave me his notes via threads and pics, and I went from there. I just took his design modifications and went to the next level. I wanted to be the first to do the swap with no cancellations, and until someone can dispute it, I guess I have that claim. In reality, it means nothing but personal satisfaction. I also did it because I think our scene has gotten a bit stale. I wanted to be punk rock about it and throw the balance of the scene off with a fresh set of possibilities. Don't get me wrong, I love the SR and CA, as well as the RB, but I love it when the obvious isn't so obvious.
Back to your thread. I stayed with the SMICs because, as you said, I wanted to utilize everything I could from the front cut. FMIC- I already know that this is gonna be something people want. It will require modifying the intake in order to make room for the FMIC. I'll do it, eventually, or maybe somebody who gets my kit will be inspired to do it and take what I'm doing to a new level. That's cool, too! Punk rock is cool!
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Posted by: Poor_S13_Driver at 8:15 AM 8/10/2006
Last night while working on the VG240, I thought about why someone hadn't gone the route we did with the 240SX to extent we had. I guess the "path of least resistance" and JDM envy had us all under the spell back in the day. I remember a time when CA18DET in a 240SX was looked down on. I don't even know who started the rumor that a CA was an under-powered option over SR. That guy or group needs their heads checked. Anyway, we've been the route of SR with a nice representation of CA coming up, followed by a contingent of folks doing RB swap and a following being developed for 1J/2J and an even more obscure, but cool group- the LS1 hybrid tuners. The V family (VG/VQ/VH) series, to me, is the next group that I see that will come up strong. Lets face it, Nissan has put their entire force behind the V family. The RB series will never see production again unless we get companies like Dart to buy the rights to produce the RB. That will probably never happen, but you see where I am going.
I love engines, both Japanese and American domestic, I love forced induction, I love big horsepower NA, I love the sound of oversized cams and crackling exhaust notes that make the hairs on the back of my neck stand up, and I love hybrids that are done right. Cars to me are nothing more than another form of canvas to work art on. That's why I love what I do and I do what I love.
Ok, ok, ok... to the point of why I am posting this:
VG swap compared to SR/CA/RB pro's:
- VG30DETT has a lot of manufacturer/OEM support in North America
- VG30DETT/Z32 has a huge North American fan base
- Technical support can be found in many cities
- Lots of aftermarket products (JWT/Stillen, et al.)
- VG30DETT was sold in North America
- You can walk into any Nissan Parts Center or parts store and order what you need without cross-referencing
- 300 bhp in stock form with 5-speed manual; 280 bhp in stock form with 4-speed automatic
- Better center of gravity; CG sits in the middle of the car when in the S13.
V swaps over SR/CA/RB con's:
- Not a direct plug-in
- Subframe, transmission crossmember, downpipes, y-pipe need to be modified/manufactured
- Need to remove the engine to access the turbos
- Need a custom drive shaft (yeah, the RB and 1J/2J do, as well)
- Oil filter relocation kit needed
- Oil pan needs customized
- Add your own cons
I had these pro/cons in mind when I did this swap. My goal was to overcome the cons, as well as to keep the engine/chassis options with no cancellations, do not disturb/modify brake/clutch master cylinders, as well as to use as many pieces from the Z32 front cut as possible. These goals were achieved.
Anyway, I hope you folks like the hybrid. I know I do !
I will be away in Thailand for 15 days starting tonite, so if you write me and I don't answer right away, it's not a dis. I gotta do stuff in Bangkok and Phuket and get some relaxation away from the 150 degree F heat here in Bahrain. I'll be taking a buttload of pics of stuff I see there. Yes, there is a tuner scene in Thailand. I know what you were thinkin'!
Post Title: Re: (D2180SX)
Posted by: kanye240 at 12:07 AM 8/15/2006
vg+240=smoked tires and neck pains 
Post Title: Re: (kanye240)
Posted by: 180sxfaktory at 8:10 AM 8/16/2006
| Quote, originally posted by kanye240 » |
| sign me up ...i cant wait till the kit comes vg+240=smoked tires and neck pains |
Post Title: Re: (180sxfaktory)
Posted by: kouki munster at 12:03 PM 8/16/2006
| Quote, originally posted by 180sxfaktory » |
| Would be appropriate and fitting since to sport this swap in a 240 requires a bulldog, and probably a set of cajones to match the monster mayhem that will result! |
Any Idea on the eta for the s14 swap kits? If you need a s14 for R&D I would be willing to help locate one for you guys to have imported.
Post Title: Re: (180sxfaktory)
Posted by: kanye240 at 2:03 AM 8/17/2006
HOWEVER- if there is someone who is willing to send their car to me in Bahrain, I will design and do the swap with VG30DETT/5MT for $7,500.00. The shipping of the car to bahrain and back is $1,500.00, roughly. For $7,500.00, you will get the complete VG swap, as well as some of my other parts (side braces, crossbars, suspension goodies). I got a lot more to say on this, so if you are seriously interested, hit me up at the e-mail address.
| Quote, originally posted by Beatupsx » |
| Any Idea on the eta for the s14 swap kits? If you need a s14 for R&D I would be willing to help locate one for you guys to have imported. |
right???| Quote, originally posted by kanye240 » |
| so im guessing u guys at 180sxfactory used custom Power sterring lines, vacuum/brake booster lines, fuel lines, rad hoses, clutch line, Throttle cable, radistor hoses and basically anything with fluid in it that connects to the motor. right??? |
...i see now
Post Title: Re: (WoDan23)
Posted by: 180sxfaktory at 5:35 AM 8/21/2006
Anyway, I'll still do my own once I get an S14 to rip into.
| Quote, originally posted by WoDan23 » |
| just so everyone knows there is like a 14 page article on this swap in Sport Compact car september issue i believe? i could be wrong...but i know i have it laying around here somewhere...they swap one into an S14 and provide full details and photos for the whole thing...try and find it...its on the front page so you shouldnt be able to miss it |
| Quote, originally posted by 93HATCH240 » |
| Hey, after reading 3 pages I would like to know the release date and price.LIBOB86@yahoo.com. Thanks. Rob |
... yea i just woke up
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Posted by: Poor_S13_Driver at 6:49 PM 8/21/2006
freeflowdiablo@gmail.com..... keep us updated with ANY info/thoughts you have As for updates- without a doubt. Once I'm up and running on NICO as a vendor in September (I'm on vacation right now in Thailand), I'll be able to talk more freely about this kit, as well as my other products I make for the S13. NICO is the place for me to communicate with you all, as well as to get feedback. The folks who end up with 180SX FAKTORY WERKS products, I am hoping that they will provide feedback. I, for one, thrive on honesty and candid talk, and it is only through that form of communication can improvement and refinement occur. As you can tell from my business site, I am very niche in what I do. Not too many companies out there are into just one line up of cars. I don't expect to get rich off of this company, monetarily. I just want to get rich on knowledge and information to pass on to all, as well as to receive. Money doesn't drive me, but pure passion from the heart, and humbleness to even be within the community of Nissan S13-S15 fuels and guides it. Again, thank you...
| Quote, originally posted by Poor_S13_Driver » |
| I would also like a price for the kit, and a date when you think youll be churning them out. My S13 begs me for own everyday freeflowdiablo@gmail.com..... keep us updated with ANY info/thoughts you have |
. I don't do any major work on my cars since I lack the tools, facility, and know-how involved to do a swap. This kit will definitely make things easier for my friend who has done all my mechanic work and twin cam/5spd conversion on my 240. He will not touch a VG in a Z, but I know he'll think differently with one going in an S13. Before I wrecked my 1990 300zx, it screamed at 17 psi on the stock turbos. I can't even imagine what that will be like in my 240. You have a future customer here if I can convince my mechanic to do it. 
hmmm...... | Quote, originally posted by evan86 » |
| I am very impressed by what I have seen so far. I am a huge Z32 fan and I own a 96 twin turbo along with 2 1990 twin turbo parts cars. The 240 is my daily driver and I've always toyed with the VG idea, just so I can be consistant with all my cars . I don't do any major work on my cars since I lack the tools, facility, and know-how involved to do a swap. This kit will definitely make things easier for my friend who has done all my mechanic work and twin cam/5spd conversion on my 240. He will not touch a VG in a Z, but I know he'll think differently with one going in an S13. Before I wrecked my 1990 300zx, it screamed at 17 psi on the stock turbos. I can't even imagine what that will be like in my 240. You have a future customer here if I can convince my mechanic to do it. |
Thanks for being impressed ! As I said in a few threads ago, this swap puts the S13 into a whole entirely different category. The closest I can put it is it is like a Z32 with massive weight reduction, and for the faint of heart, I wouldn't recommend it unless you've got the cajones and a donut for your neck because this thing will inflict whiplash
If your mechanic can put legos together, then he can definitely do this swap, since I have taken all the hard stuff out of the equation. Timeframe to do the swap in the hands of a competent person is one solid day provided all the prep work has been completed for doing a swap. My thoughts are that before even putting the engine in, one may as well go ahead and replace the normal consumables like clutch, water pump, timing belt, as well as inspect the front for wear and tear (steering boots, bushings, et al). You can figure another day to do the wiring and tuning, unless you are getting a VG30DETT with a known history. The dash wiring is cake
Post Title: Re: (180sxfaktory)
Posted by: evan86 at 1:13 PM 8/22/2006
| Quote, originally posted by 180sxfaktory » |
| Thanks for being impressed ! As I said in a few threads ago, this swap puts the S13 into a whole entirely different category. The closest I can put it is it is like a Z32 with massive weight reduction, and for the faint of heart, I wouldn't recommend it unless you've got the cajones and a donut for your neck because this thing will inflict whiplash If your mechanic can put legos together, then he can definitely do this swap, since I have taken all the hard stuff out of the equation. Timeframe to do the swap in the hands of a competent person is one solid day provided all the prep work has been completed for doing a swap. My thoughts are that before even putting the engine in, one may as well go ahead and replace the normal consumables like clutch, water pump, timing belt, as well as inspect the front for wear and tear (steering boots, bushings, et al). You can figure another day to do the wiring and tuning, unless you are getting a VG30DETT with a known history. The dash wiring is cake |
. The most work and money will be spent on insuring that the motor will be reliable. I'm getting really excited about this now. The 240 community is always open to new swap ideas, since there are already so many available, and the engine bay is so versatile. There are some skeptics out there, but we'll show them. EDIT: Is there any way to keep the AC? I have a guy who has made custom lines for me for my twin cam swap since I have a 1990 and I'm using the twin cam compressor, and I'm sure he could make some for this swap. The oil filter seems to be in the way, and I'm guessing it isn't that easy or you guys would have done it.
EDIT2: haha sorry. Just read the first post.
Modified by evan86 at 1:30 PM 8/22/2006
Modified by evan86 at 1:32 PM 8/22/2006
Post Title: Re: VG30DETT into 1989 240SX (D2180SX)
Posted by: NSRsheets at 1:24 PM 8/22/2006
| Quote, originally posted by evan86 » |
He said he would definitely do it with this kit. I'll make sure to put a lot of new parts on while the motor is out. My car was running great, but the turbos had high miles, so it'll be time for an upgrade . The most work and money will be spent on insuring that the motor will be reliable. I'm getting really excited about this now. The 240 community is always open to new swap ideas, since there are already so many available, and the engine bay is so versatile. There are some skeptics out there, but we'll show them. EDIT: Is there any way to keep the AC? I have a guy who has made custom lines for me for my twin cam swap since I have a 1990 and I'm using the twin cam compressor, and I'm sure he could make some for this swap. The oil filter seems to be in the way, and I'm guessing it isn't that easy or you guys would have done it. Modified by evan86 at 1:30 PM 8/22/2006
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I'm already ahead of you on the oil filter. The oil filter relocator kit that comes with the master kit comes with a fitting to plug into the stock filter location due to the placement of the stock filter area and the subframe. You having the Z32, you know how much of a pain it is to just do an oil change.
As for the A/C compressor/lines, I can hook them up and run the A/C. If you notice the oil filter relocator, you can mount it any place you want, granted if you have the clearance. I chose that spot for no obvious reason.
Anyway, thanks for the vote of confidence! I'm not doing this swap to win friends, but as you know, to give the S13 community something more to think of instead of the normal.
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Posted by: Reno at 5:51 AM 8/25/2006
| Quote, originally posted by Reno » |
| hmmm what about the driveshaft?? |
and I've had enough of those with my Ka-T| Quote, originally posted by vvaffle » |
| This is awesome, let us know what the weight distribution and total weight are like when you figure it out. Also, I'd love to know where you got those headlights. |
You can get the headlights on eBay .
They're like $162.00 a pair. Just go to eBay and search for "S13 head lamps". Basically, they are knock-offs of East Bear (who stole the idea from RE Amemiya back in the day), but they work the same and are a lot less expensive. In this day and age, if the item works, and it is of good construction, why not go with a no-name? I'm beyond the label whore thing when it comes to aesthetics. There's things I won't chince out on (safety and internal/external performance), and there are things I will (exterior/non-hazardous items), as long as it is made well. Happy shopping!
Post Title: Re: (Florida240sx)
Posted by: 180sxfaktory at 12:19 PM 8/28/2006
| Quote, originally posted by Florida240sx » |
| $1500 for the kit??? Is that our nico price? Is their shipping on it?? I'd liek to do my own brackets myself. But would rather just buy the kit so no headaches and I've had enough of those with my Ka-T Available for purchase yet?? |
Late September, my friend, and the price that's on the site is for everybody. I am not making big money off of it or my other products. It's one of those things where if it's priced too high, nobody would buy it, and if it's priced too low, I'm not covering my overhead and I may as well not do it. I gotta pay the grocery bill for two other guys. Shipping should be approx. $125 with insurance.
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Posted by: Florida240sx at 12:23 PM 8/28/2006
Oh! On a separate note, when I posted 300 bhp from VG30DETT with 5MT, that is for Japan spec. For the US spec VG30DETT with 5MT, it's 320 bhp.
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Posted by: Reno at 5:12 PM 8/28/2006
| Quote, originally posted by 180sxfaktory » |
| Late September, my friend, and the price that's on the site is for everybody. I am not making big money off of it or my other products. It's one of those things where if it's priced too high, nobody would buy it, and if it's priced too low, I'm not covering my overhead and I may as well not do it. I gotta pay the grocery bill for two other guys. Shipping should be approx. $125 with insurance. |
That is extremely good news. I can put a lot more money into the motor now knowing that shipping isn't going to cost an arm and a leg.
Btw, you are incorrect on your info. Both Japanese and US spec motors are 300 bhp with the manual tranny.
Anyway, good luck getting everything finalized.
Post Title: Re: (evan86)
Posted by: 180sxfaktory at 9:09 PM 8/28/2006
300 bhp- roger that ! Still a lot more than with a stock KA/CA/SR/RB (except 26).
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Posted by: AkademikONE at 9:43 PM 8/28/2006
Like a glove 
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Post Title: Re: (AkademikONE)
Posted by: Reno at 5:21 AM 8/29/2006
| Quote, originally posted by AkademikONE » |
| Sent you an e-mail! |
hey what kind of wheels are those???
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Posted by: Florida240sx at 7:35 AM 8/29/2006
Again, thanks for the interest and the enthusiasm!
Oh! Someone asked about the wheels on the 240SX- they are Konig wheels. I don't know if they make that style anymore.
Post Title: Re: (180sxfaktory)
Posted by: Reno at 8:33 AM 8/30/2006
http://www.osakajdmmotors.com/...T.htm
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Posted by: Florida240sx at 8:48 AM 8/30/2006
| Quote, originally posted by evan86 » |
| Are you going to be selling the kits on a first pay first serve basis, or do I have to contact you to get dibs on a reserved spot? How much time will you be able to put a kit together in? |
I'll have enough sets ready at the end of the month. I have collected the names via e-mail of those who have expressed willingness to purchase the kit when it debuts. All you have to do is to write me. I'm selling them to those who pay for them.
It only takes me 1-2 days to put the kit together, depending on my workload.
Post Title: Re: (Reno)
Posted by: 180sxfaktory at 6:20 PM 8/30/2006
| Quote, originally posted by Reno » |
| FTW?? http://www.osakajdmmotors.com/...T.htm |
Reno-
I'm glad that you posted a picture of one of the JDM VG30DETTs because the scrap yards treat these just like any other engine. They cut everything. I would like to stress to get a half-cut or better yet, a USDM VG30DETT that hasn't had the intake piping cut or anything else cut, for that matter. AND it's important to include MAF sensor, SMICs (I haven't designed the FMIC yet), wiring and ECU.
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Posted by: Florida240sx at 6:38 PM 8/30/2006
| Quote, originally posted by Florida240sx » |
| You better save one for me.... One of my contractors does dirt track racing and has a shop. I might be able to use his shop to do my swap |
Copy all!
Post Title: Re: (180sxfaktory)
Posted by: evan86 at 3:17 PM 8/31/2006
| Quote, originally posted by Onizuka » |
| If it were a master swap kit for a VQ30DE + Z33 6-speed I would buy the instant it came out. Very cool none the less. VG30DETT is a great option for monster power + factory reliability. |
Post Title: Re: (Onizuka)
Posted by: 180sxfaktory at 4:07 PM 9/1/2006
| Quote, originally posted by Onizuka » |
| If it were a master swap kit for a VQ30DE + Z33 6-speed I would buy the instant it came out. Very cool none the less. VG30DETT is a great option for monster power + factory reliability. |
Matt-
I responded to your e-mail. The VQ series is the next in line for me to do next year as a viable swap option for S13 and S14 (as soon as I get an S14). We do a lot of work for VQ engines in Maxima and in 350Z for customers around here (gotta pay the bills)
VQ35DE with 6MT- It would definitely be a giant killer in the S13. Even in the 350Z, that thing has more torque and pull and makes me think that in the S13, we're gonna have to beefen up stress areas even more. One of our customers came back with his dynosheet after we did a total rebuild on his VQ35DE in his 350Z. 456 bhp
Post Title: Re: (evan86)
Posted by: 180sxfaktory at 4:08 PM 9/1/2006
| Quote, originally posted by evan86 » |
| You have been emailed. Tomorrow is the first day of September... the countdown begins!! |
I hope you are prepared, bro!
Post Title: Re: (180sxfaktory)
Posted by: duece.four.oh.sx at 5:52 PM 9/1/2006
| Quote, originally posted by 180sxfaktory » |
Matt- I responded to your e-mail. The VQ series is the next in line for me to do next year as a viable swap option for S13 and S14 (as soon as I get an S14). We do a lot of work for VQ engines in Maxima and in 350Z for customers around here (gotta pay the bills) VQ35DE with 6MT- It would definitely be a giant killer in the S13. Even in the 350Z, that thing has more torque and pull and makes me think that in the S13, we're gonna have to beefen up stress areas even more. One of our customers came back with his dynosheet after we did a total rebuild on his VQ35DE in his 350Z. 456 bhp |
so the true words of a wise man has spoken , the new age has begun
for nissan enthusiasts
VG30DETT 6 SPEED =
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Posted by: Reno at 6:18 PM 9/5/2006
| Quote, originally posted by 180sxfaktory » |
| They are no bigger in inner diameter than stock. |
I've got three more kits to complete in between working on other cars and an SR build that I'm heavily involved with right now. I'll have 6 kits ready to go at the end of the month
Now that I am an advertiser with NICO, the price per kit is $1,500.00 plus shipping. Shipping is approx $125.00 with insurance to USA. If you are a NICO member, I'll ship it for free to the USA. If you live outside the USA, I'll knock $100 off the purchase price, but I can't ship for free. BUT you gotta say you are a NICO club member with your handle.
Modified by 180sxfaktory at 1:54 PM 9/6/2006
Post Title: Re: (180sxfaktory)
Posted by: evan86 at 5:58 PM 9/7/2006
workign on gettign a palce to put my car. As soon as my 22ft box truck sells I'll be ordering... Anyway you could get me measurement of the driveshaft? So I can have one made. I'll do a step by step documentary of the install with plenty of pics uploaded each night.... Shouldn't take more than 2 weeks....| Quote, originally posted by evan86 » |
| Any chance you can put together my kit without the downpipes as I want to go with a larger size, and how would that affect the price? |
At a later date, I'll start to offer the kit in basic form, but until then, I am just offering the master kit.
Post Title: Re: (Florida240sx)
Posted by: 180sxfaktory at 1:20 PM 9/10/2006
| Quote, originally posted by Florida240sx » |
| So it's straight $1500 for us then workign on gettign a palce to put my car. As soon as my 22ft box truck sells I'll be ordering... Anyway you could get me measurement of the driveshaft? So I can have one made. I'll do a step by step documentary of the install with plenty of pics uploaded each night.... Shouldn't take more than 2 weeks.... |
Tomorrow evening, I'm going to put the VG240 up on the lift and take it apart and take more pics for those who want to see what the work underneath looks like. I'll post them here and I'll also give the dimensions on the shaft.
I'll be doing this in order to get the step-by-step tutorial/instructions together.
Post Title: Re: (fayceoff)
Posted by: 180sxfaktory at 1:34 PM 9/10/2006
| Quote, originally posted by fayceoff » |
| Question... I have orders to Bahrain and I should be there in March. If I bring my '89 hatch with me, can you do the swap? If so, how much? And can I help? |
If you are coming here, you will want to have your car here You will see all kinds of cars and you will be kicking yourself everyday wishing you had brought your car if you don't.
One word of advice, keep the car as stock as possible because the Bahraini Traffic office will intentionally try to find things to fail your car for if it looks like it is a race car. If your car is modified, return it to stock condition, make sure you have factory installed equipment, like reclining buckets (no full bucket allowed in the inspection process) and a back seat with all interior molding. If you have a cage, take it out. Wheels cannot extend out past the fender line and the height must be stock. After you pass the inspection and get the tags, you can do all the mods you want.
If you are intending to use any aftermarket stuff you currently have on your car, take it off now and get them ready for shipment. You haver the time to do it right and don't wait until the last minute because you won't have time. During your household goods shipment, put all your go-fast stuff in boxes. make sure the items are clean, gas and oil free and non-hazardous. If you don't, the movers won't touch it. You say March, you will want to ship your car and your household goods as soon as you have the orders in hand. It will take three months for your car to get here. If you are only gonna be here a year, then you will want to maximize your enjoyment with your car here. There are not that many of us in Bahrain that have the S13 and there is only one S14.
As far as doing a VG30DETT install on your car, of course I can do the swap. The cost will be $7,000.00, and that will include all parts and labor. As for helping out, thanks for the offer, but I have two other guys who depend on the work to get paid. Please understand. You will get a quality end product, and as a "werks" car, I will badge it as part of the Mayhem series.
Post Title: Re: (180sxfaktory)
Posted by: fayceoff at 7:04 PM 9/10/2006
). Pretty much the only aftermarket stuff I have is a stereo and S14 seats. I'll be looking for you when I get there. I CAN'T WAIT!!! Just my 2cents. Nice job. I do have some buddies that I roll with that have some 240SXs. I'm going to have to turn them on to this thread.
Post Title: Re: (180sxfaktory) and 240VG30DETT Swap (greatgonzer)
Posted by: Malac0da13 at 9:00 AM 9/11/2006
That setup does look sweet though. Don't get me wrong, I am a complete Nissan head, I just wish they would come up with some serious displacement that is small and fairly modular for a reasonable price out of the box, not to mention not getting killed on true factory parts.
I'm an inch away from moving to France so I can get a job at the Nissan Corp facility in Trappes (I’ve seen job postings that I qualify for with my degree) just so I can slap the moron who thinks 1 CV axel for my 240 is worth $600 bran new, and every nut and bolt are worth $40 each.
Post Title: Re: (180sxfaktory) and 240VG30DETT Swap (greatgonzer)
Posted by: 180sxfaktory at 1:49 PM 9/11/2006
| Quote, originally posted by greatgonzer » |
| Ok I've read this entire thread and I don't even have a 240SX. I actually have a 300zxTT that used to be NA. I ordered a front clip from San Fran and I installed it myself and turned my NA into a Beast. I want to make a couple of points here. 1: Very nice job on the kit. These cars should be beasts when put together correctly. 2: I ordered my whole front clip from http://www.venus-auto.com for around $2500 (located in San Fran) 3: The 240SX engine bay has a ton more room that my 300zx bay. But regardless do all the maintenance like timing belt change, new turbos, Lightened flywheel and new clutch before you drop in the engine. It would suck to just drop in the engine and find out in a month that one of those things was going bad and you have to pull the engine out all over again just to change a turbo. 4: Do you sell the oil filter relocater kit by itself for us 300zx guys? I'd be interested in that (oil changes are a pain, yes I know that well). 5: If I had a 240 I'd be interested in a dual exhaust like the 300z has. Any way to switch to that kind of exhaust setup 6: Why did you go with blow off valves and not retain the recirculator valves. They are A LOT better for the VG30DETT motor. They are also better for performance. Instead of blowing out the boost to atmosphere, they hold your boost in a chamber and when you step on the gas again you should have instant boost. Just my 2cents. Nice job. I do have some buddies that I roll with that have some 240SXs. I'm going to have to turn them on to this thread.
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Thanks for the frank comments, greatgonzer. I was hoping to get some input from the 300ZX crowd.
The car we have put together does run like a beast, albeit, improvements can be made. My main focus was to ensure that the chassis and the hard points in this kit could stand up to the beating, and they do. I did mention earlier in the threads to do the obvious things that you mentioned before putting the motor in. Honestly, I know some folks will be stretched thin just with the purchase price of the kit and with the full swap, but nonetheless, the areas you addressed were addressed, and it's like "pay me now or pay me later". Everybody will gamble and hope they have stuff that will hold up from the swap. When you said you bought your swap for $2500, was that for a front clip? I am telling everybody that the front clip would be most economical instead of piecing things from here and there. The oil filter relocator kit can be put together for the 300ZX guys. The reason I put it in for the swap kit is due to the location of the stock oil filter point now residing over the custom subframe. There's no way to get around the oil filter relocator kit in the 240SX with VG. As was mentioned in a thread after you, the stock fuel tank in the 240sx is all the way aft and to the right of the car. Hence, nowhere to go with dual exhaust, at the moment. The only way around that is to ditch the OEM fuel tank and plumb in an internal fuel cell in the trunk area. Not too many people would be keen on that unless they were going for a track use vehicle. The idea is playing around in my head, but that won't be until next year. I was actually thinking of dual twin N1 coming down the center and exiting out through the center of the rear. As for why we went with dual BOV- we just wanted to. I've messed around with recirculating systems for SR and it comes down to some like them and some don't. If you have a design or something I can read, I'm all for looking at it and seeing how to incorporate it in the 240SX with VG. I appreciate anybody you know to come check out this post. Again, thanks for the candidness and we hope to see you in a 240SX with VG or a 300ZX with SR. I've seen the Z32 in Japan with SR20DET swaps. The advantage is in the weight reduction and the room gained and parts support for SR in Japan is more than VG. Other than that, I don't see SR making more power than VG.
Post Title: Re: (180sxfaktory) and 240VG30DETT Swap (240TweakerNewbee)
Posted by: 180sxfaktory at 1:53 PM 9/11/2006
| Quote, originally posted by 240TweakerNewbee » |
| Call me wrong, but, for the money why not just throw a (I can't believe I'm going to say this) LS-1 in. Brand new in the crate $4k, 350hp/350tq, N/A, light, easy to get parts, reliable, very upgradeable. That setup does look sweet though. Don't get me wrong, I am a complete Nissan head, I just wish they would come up with some serious displacement that is small and fairly modular for a reasonable price out of the box, not to mention not getting killed on true factory parts. I'm an inch away from moving to France so I can get a job at the Nissan Corp facility in Trappes (I’ve seen job postings that I qualify for with my degree) just so I can slap the moron who thinks 1 CV axel for my 240 is worth $600 bran new, and every nut and bolt are worth $40 each. |
Well, many have already treaded that path with LS-1, and not only in our camp. We see RX-7s running around with LS-1. VG30DETT "uncompromised" is new territory, and that's why we went that direction. Impossible or hard is only just an obstacle to get over, and we did. Nissan is Nissan, and their forte is with smaller displacement. GM was forever large displacement, but they have made huge inroads into the small displacement arena, as we have seen with ECOTEC. Nissan pricing for OEM parts- I don't even wanna go there, as you state, it's ridiculous.
Post Title: Re: (180sxfaktory) and 240VG30DETT Swap (180sxfaktory)
Posted by: greatgonzer at 3:26 PM 9/11/2006
| Quote, originally posted by 180sxfaktory » |
When you said you bought your swap for $2500, was that for a front clip? I am telling everybody that the front clip would be most economical instead of piecing things from here and there. VG. |
Yes my whole front 1/2 cut of a 300zxTwinTurbo from Japan cost me $2500 from http://www.venus-auto.com. I would ONLY suggest getting a front clip. If you are trying to piece a working engine, intercooler setup then you WILL spend WAY too much money. Parts alone will kill bankrupt you. With a front clip like I purchased, you will get everything "used" that you will need to perform a swap (into an NA 300zx that is) along with the kit that 180SXfaktory is offering.
One question though, Can a 300zx subframe be modified to fit with the 240SX engine bay? Wouldn't that be an easier fit in the VG30DETT? Those subframes and 300zx driveshafts are plentiful in the junkyards.
Here is a pick of my front clip...
Post Title: Re: (180sxfaktory) and 240VG30DETT Swap (greatgonzer)
Posted by: 180sxfaktory at 8:49 PM 9/11/2006
| Quote, originally posted by greatgonzer » |
Yes my whole front 1/2 cut of a 300zxTwinTurbo from Japan cost me $2500 from http://www.venus-auto.com. I would ONLY suggest getting a front clip. If you are trying to piece a working engine, intercooler setup then you WILL spend WAY too much money. Parts alone will kill bankrupt you. With a front clip like I purchased, you will get everything "used" that you will need to perform a swap (into an NA 300zx that is) along with the kit that 180SXfaktory is offering. One question though, Can a 300zx subframe be modified to fit with the 240SX engine bay? Wouldn't that be an easier fit in the VG30DETT? Those subframes and 300zx driveshafts are plentiful in the junkyards. Here is a pick of my front clip... |
We tried the subframe, but it doesn't line up and the front sway bar is impacted. The driveshaft length is not the same. Yes, I wish it was that easy, but as I stated, this kit of ours makes it the first of its kind. That probably explains why there is so much excitement over this. Believe me, I never expected to see so much enthusiasm over it!
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Posted by: Florida240sx at 9:00 PM 9/11/2006
| Quote, originally posted by greatgonzer » |
| Hey 180sx...does your $1500 price include the custom driveshaft? You cant do this swap without that correct? And you ARE advertising for a "clean swap". Just looking for clarification. |
No, it does not.
Clean means nothing canceled. Pictures being taken tonite. We've got the transmission out for clutch swap, so this allows me to get good pics of Y-pipe we got made, the back of the turbos, oil filter access port, etc. It's been busy lately.
Post Title: Re: (180sxfaktory)
Posted by: kouki munster at 6:25 PM 9/19/2006
| Quote, originally posted by Florida240sx » |
| I got enough for the kit....if my truck sells thne I have enough for the engine and misc..f not then I got to wait a month for my front clip to arrive anywayz so I will just not eat and have the money |
Hello again! Man, I don't want you guys giving up eating... That just sux!
Post Title: Re: (180sxfaktory)
Posted by: 180sxfaktory at 3:32 AM 9/22/2006
Because we have Ramadan coming up this Sunday, things will slow down a bit. Everyday for approximately a month (time of the new moon cycle), devout Muslims will follow the practice of fasting and abstaining from even drinking water from the time the sun comes up until the sun sets. Believe me, the practice will drain you and "normal" life practices such as eating, drinking and recharging the body can only take place in the evening after "Iftar" (partaking in the first meal after prayer). This means my operations will have to adjust to evening hours because I simply cannot get anything done in the daytime. I must honor and respect this practice.
This works in favor of those of you who want the kit, but need to source the funds, swap, essential parts, etc. I will release the kit after Ramadan ends next month.
A few have asked of video of the car in action. We will be filming the car during drift and drag sessions in the evening at Bahrain International Circuit. The car right now is undergoing a clutch swap and a 5-lug conversion, Z32 brake conversion which started last nite. I want to document everything and present it to you so that you can see and judge for yourself how this car operates prior to releasing the kit. This video will be released within the next two weeks.
A few of you may be disappointed, but please don't be. Those of you who truly want this kit, please write to me at postmaster@180sxfaktory.com and I will knock $100 off the list price in observance of Ramadan (Ramadan also includes observance of giving people a break and helping others) and will include laminates. As I stated earlier, USA owners will get free shipping if they state they are NICO members (include your handle). In total, you will save $225 which will allow you to use that money for other things like eating
Thanks for your understanding. Ma'asalama!
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Posted by: tjmhillz at 9:03 AM 9/22/2006
| Quote, originally posted by Florida240sx » |
| I got enough for the kit....if my truck sells thne I have enough for the engine and misc..f not then I got to wait a month for my front clip to arrive anywayz so I will just not eat and have the money |
Lol I'm trying to sell my truck (and my kouki) to finance the swap to.
180sxfaktory, check email.
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Posted by: evan86 at 4:44 PM 9/22/2006
Shukran (Thank you) for your patience and kindness! Ramadan Kareem (Happy Ramadan)! Ma'asalama (see you later)!
Post Title: Re: (180sxfaktory)
Posted by: greatgonzer at 7:15 PM 9/24/2006
| Quote, originally posted by 180sxfaktory » |
| Those of you who truly want this kit, please write to me at postmaster@180sxfaktory.com and I will knock $100 off the list price in observance of Ramadan (Ramadan also includes observance of giving people a break and helping others) ! |
Instead of knocking off $100 why don't you throw in free driveshafts!!!! That would help out much better!!!
Post Title: Re: (greatgonzer)
Posted by: 180sxfaktory at 4:22 AM 9/25/2006
Thanks for your understanding.
Post Title: Re: (180sxfaktory)
Posted by: greatgonzer at 11:04 AM 9/25/2006
You are now, but please send me an e-mail to postmsster@180sxfaktory.com to get on the official list.
Once I have it, that will make 4 people. Anybody else up for 300 hp?
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Posted by: Florida240sx at 3:55 PM 9/25/2006
to get over that 300 mark| Quote, originally posted by 180sxfaktory » |
| Twin Disco Potatoes would be great or twin HKS GT2530! A front mount would go a long way in cooling that airflow! My CA18DET powered 180SX with HKS GT2530, which is like half of a VG30DETT, is a powerhouse, and I can only imagine what it would be like to have upgraded turbines for the VG240SX! |
It would probably be a lot like a 300zx with upgraded turbos but with serious traction issues.
No front mount for me, I'm just going to eventualy upgrade to bigger side mounts and maintain a sleeper look , hell I'm even going to keep the the stock recirulation valves so no one will know its turbo untill they get their a$$ handed to them.
| Quote, originally posted by Florida240sx » |
| Plan to up the boost to get over that 300 mark Email has been sent |
Me to.
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Posted by: Poor_S13_Driver at 7:57 PM 9/25/2006
As far as traction issues with upgraded twins- suspension tuning.
I know the twin GT2530 are good for 600 hp.
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Posted by: Florida240sx at 8:53 PM 9/25/2006
..just waiting on the funds The Vg looks more at home in an S chassis than it does in the Z.
I was allways thinking of how bad *** that would be to do that swap. Maby ill try it in my S14..... just maby..... 
Thats very inspiring.
THANK YOU
Post Title: Re: (nismojunkie)
Posted by: 180sxfaktory at 2:13 AM 9/29/2006
We're still looking for a donor S14 to do the swap on. Maybe U can donate yours
Post Title: Re: (D2180SX)
Posted by: turblu at 4:16 PM 9/29/2006
| Quote, originally posted by Beatupsx » |
| 1 question, will the intake piping clear pop up headlights? It looks like it will be close in the pics you posted on pg. 2 but its hard to tell. |
It will clear. In fact, Black Sunshine, the RS13 180SX blew its engine the other nite (actually, I killed it with a bit too much boost on the the drift course; busted rings caused an overpressure issue and the bumped up boost 1.7 was the nail in the coffin; engine couldn't evacuate the crankcase pressure quick enough), so I'm going to put the pop-up head lamps in VG240SX to make sure it does with pics for you all
Black Sunshine will be out of commission and is getting a CA20DET as a replacement engine. I would do a VG, but I'm keeping her configured with the CA as part of our line-up.
VG240SX will be running the drift course within the next two nights, and I'll be doing the video for you all to see what she is made of
Other good news- I found an S14 here locally, believe it or not, and the owner wants to donate his car for an S14 VG30DETT swap. This will allow us to do the kit for the S14 next year. I am going to buy an S14 for the shop, and it looks like it will be coming from the Sunshine State.
Post Title: Re: VG30DETT into 1989 240SX (180sxfaktory)
Posted by: kouki munster at 9:35 PM 10/1/2006
| Quote, originally posted by 180sxfaktory » |
| I'm going to put the pop-up head lamps in VG240SX to make sure it does with pics for you all |
Sound good can't wait for the pics.
| Quote, originally posted by 180sxfaktory » |
| VG240SX will be running the drift course within the next two nights, and I'll be doing the video for you all to see what she is made of |
I definitly want to see video of the beast in action.
Modified by Beatupsx at 1:25 AM 10/2/2006
Post Title: Re: VG30DETT into 1989 240SX (Beatupsx)
Posted by: 180sxfaktory at 4:45 AM 10/2/2006
Will talk to you via separate correspondence regarding your S14 kouki.
Post Title: Re: VG30DETT into 1989 240SX (180sxfaktory)
Posted by: kouki munster at 10:13 AM 10/2/2006
| Quote, originally posted by 180sxfaktory » |
| Don't worry about your S14. I still want that ride! The other S14 I am talking about is one that is here locally. It's all show and no go, and the owner wants the thing to grow some sack! Will talk to you via separate correspondence regarding your S14 kouki. |
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Posted by: Poor_S13_Driver at 10:46 AM 10/2/2006
I cant wait for someone to do it here in the states like I said before. My heart is set on this. I already have a pignose sitting in the driveway just waiting for funds and some time. Who else thinks I should quit school to fund the project/ have plenty of time :P haha Also looking forward to the videos. | Quote, originally posted by Beatupsx » |
| He isn't the only one doing the swap, as soon as I get the funds together I'm gonna start caling places and locate a motor. I'm hoping I can get everyting together and complete the swap before Christmas. |
I'm getting stationed in Bahrain next spring and I'm going to have him do it at his shop in Manama. Then about a month or two later, when my pockets have caught their second wind, I'm going to have the paddle-shifter added. (Then spring of '08, I'll be back to the states to terrorize the idiots who think their stock Mustangs, Camaros, and souped up Accords haul a$$ for a couple of months before I wrap my hatch around a tree/telephone pole/strip club entrance/whatever and die a fiery and agonizingly painful death. 
bwuahahahahaaa)
Modified by fayceoff at 9:54 PM 10/2/2006
Modified by fayceoff at 10:01 AM 10/9/2006
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Posted by: turblu at 10:37 AM 10/3/2006
Let me KNOW ASAP I got a place to do my swap. I just need the kit and engine now........
I have about 1 month before I loose the shop to do it......
Post Title: Re: VG30DETT into 1989 240SX (180sxfaktory)
Posted by: kouki munster at 6:11 PM 10/4/2006
| Quote, originally posted by Beatupsx » |
| Any video of the vg240 in action yet? |
We are working on two videos. One for a full length explaining the car and the swap, and one mini showing the car going through the course Last nite, the car really performed well and wowed the crowd. We finally worked out the bugs, which had nothing to do with the swap kit. Salah went through a set of brand new Federals like they were nothing. Totally shredded them, attesting to the power this swap creates. Saturday, I'll take a mini-video shoot of VG240 to get on here by Sunday. I've been stuck in the garage these past few nites getting Black Sunshine put together after suffering oil loss (stupid oil filter came lose; thought I had blown rings causing overpressurization issues).
Sunday, Sunday, Sunday!
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Posted by: Poor_S13_Driver at 7:29 AM 10/6/2006
Getting a driveshaft made isn't that bad, but what about the wiring harness?
When I made my wiring harness for my VG30DE swap, it took quite a bit of reading to make sure I knew what I was doing. I don't think everyone who buys the kit would up to the task of doing this as well. Besides, wiring up a VG into an s13 harness is much more difficult than say an SR20DET swap, or an RB20DET swap. (please let me know if I missed something here). Do you plan on selling them seperate or something?
I think it would also be helpful to mention that the stock tach won't work with the VG swap.
The cross-member and everything else looks good too. Good reinforcement. I only notched mine a little cause my motor sits a little more forward than yours does.
Good to see someone making this kit possible for others as well. I liked mine being pretty original, but what can you do. Its a pretty sweet motor.
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Posted by: Poor_S13_Driver at 4:56 PM 10/6/2006
It's extensive, but please read in the thread where I mention I will provide the info to make the stock gauges work as part of the installation instructions. If I were to include everything in this kit to make everything work the way it is supposed to, I would be charging way more than I am. Just the mere fact that we are the first to actually put the VG30DETT uncut, uncancelled, unmolested and have it work the way it is supposed to from the factory as if it were an option for the S13 says a whole lot. I'm not trying to be an a$$, but it was no cakewalk. Anyway, as things develop along, I may do things like include custom wiring and other attachments to make the kit even more plug-n-play but I haven't even got to that point yet.
Post Title: Re: (Florida240sx)
Posted by: 180sxfaktory at 8:35 PM 10/6/2006
http://www.dakotadigital.com/i...7.htm
Post Title: Re: VG30DETT into 1989 240SX (Beatupsx)
Posted by: bettonracing at 12:27 AM 10/7/2006
Regards,
H. Kurt Betton
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Posted by: Poor_S13_Driver at 7:20 AM 10/7/2006
sorry for this long pointless thread but the VG240 needs something a little fancy in my opinion | Quote, originally posted by Poor_S13_Driver » |
| In numerous posts above he says he does not have access to a driveshaft shop.(or a high speed balancer or something) Thats why he orders HIS own from NC stateside. Would you rather have him not sell a kit? Im sorry for coming off as an A$$ but he is doing wonderful things for us, and i am very passionate about this swap. |
I did not have time to read the entire thread, thats why I had asked him to correct me. If you had read my post, I had praised him for making this swap possible for others as well, so don't go jumping down my throat.
And PLEASE don't forget that I have done this swap completely by myself as well. Thats how passionate I AM about this swap.
Post Title: Re: VG30DETT into 1989 240SX (180sxfaktory)
Posted by: julio at 11:17 AM 10/7/2006
| Quote, originally posted by 180sxfaktory » |
| Thanks for your comments, julio. It's extensive, but please read in the thread where I mention I will provide the info to make the stock gauges work as part of the installation instructions. If I were to include everything in this kit to make everything work the way it is supposed to, I would be charging way more than I am. Just the mere fact that we are the first to actually put the VG30DETT uncut, uncancelled, unmolested and have it work the way it is supposed to from the factory as if it were an option for the S13 says a whole lot. I'm not trying to be an a$$, but it was no cakewalk. Anyway, as things develop along, I may do things like include custom wiring and other attachments to make the kit even more plug-n-play but I haven't even got to that point yet. |
Trust me, I know its no cake-walk. I've been there myself. I finished my swap a little over a year ago. I was just asking those questions because I know of all the problems associated with the swap having done it myself. I did not have time to read the tread as stated above, and so I asked you to correct me. Enough of me being defensive.
I wanted to ask you if you needed someone to make some plug and play harnesses available for the kits. I was thinking of making some before I stumbled upon this thread, and thought it would be appropriate for me to offer. Of course I would have to use some used z32 harnesses, due to the $400 price tag of new ones. Just thought I would throw it out there.
Post Title: Re: VG30DETT into 1989 240SX (bettonracing)
Posted by: kouki munster at 12:03 PM 10/7/2006
| Quote, originally posted by bettonracing » |
| Another tach option: http://www.engineswaptech.com/....aspx Regards, H. Kurt Betton |
I konw that will work for the s14 cluster, alot of guys with an rb in a 14 do it, but I don't think it will work with the s13 cluster as it doesn't have the adjustability of the s14 cluster.
Another option that should correct the tach issue (but does cost more):
http://www.lsauto.com/products.asp
Post Title: Re: VG30DETT into 1989 240SX (julio)
Posted by: s13swaaangin at 9:21 PM 10/7/2006
I'm in the middle of exchanging one SOHC for another (blown HG), and the buddy who was helping me pull the motor cut the tube. If I can get away with it, I won't bother replacing it.
Post Title: Re: VG30DETT into 1989 240SX (D2180SX)
Posted by: da40 at 1:46 PM 10/9/2006
| Quote, originally posted by D2180SX » |
| Hi! I just wanted to show you that the VG30DETT can be put into the S13 chassis without sacrificing or canceling factory essentials or options. This is one of my cars. Yes, it runs, and it's a torque machine. We kept everything down to the a/c (haven't hooked it up yet nor did we hook up the heater hoses; using blockers for now) and the twin turbo factory configuration. Yes, it needs a bath, but dust is one thing we deal with here in the Kingdom of Bahrain. I don't know of anybody else who has been able to do this swap without cancelling or relocating things. Of course, we had to make new mounts, customized the subframe and swapped over to a J30 oil pan. The tranny was not jury rigged either. We made a custom bracket to allow full use with no cutting into the car's sheet metal. We did not use a front mount. Instead, we retained the twin SMICs. Enjoy!
|
| Quote, originally posted by Poor_S13_Driver » |
| Seriously proofread your replys before you submit them. Since you will be installing the Z transmission anyway, it dosent matter what you have in the car now, as everything will be used from the clip. Please correct me if I am wrong. |
Also, did you have to cut the shift linkage on the tranny to make the shifter stay in the stock location? Pics of that would be great too. Thanks.
Poor_S13_Driver---So you plan on using the stock z32 tach from the front clip, or perhaps the whole cluster?
Modified by julio at 12:49 PM 10/10/2006
Post Title: Re: (180sxfaktory)
Posted by: oneslow240se at 12:25 PM 10/10/2006
I mentioned this earlier in this thread with regards to the steering column, since there is not a whole lot of room, and we made adjustments for it. The car steers just fine from full lock to counter full lock.
Now, to why I am even responding...
I'm gonna be straightforward, but you came out of nowhere and you are asking the same questions as if a competitor wishing to do the same thing set someone out to do some recon and fish for info. I apologize but I put too much into this to just give it all away. I've not seen anything with regards to pics of your swap to prove otherwise.
Once the kit is released 25 October, you can buy the kit or stay tuned to this thread to find out what it's all about. I will not release this kit if there is gonna be anything questionable regarding safety and ease of installation.
As for video, I've got two MP4 format videos of the car in action. Solo action and tandem with an S14 with a 2J. Both cars lighting up the place.
Folks, you know me, I'm not confrontational but I had to address this issue now.
Thanks.
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Posted by: Florida240sx at 3:43 PM 10/10/2006
As soon as the kit is in my hands I'm taking apart the vert. Waiting for the engine to arrive... There will be plenty of pics......| Quote, originally posted by 180sxfaktory » |
| Now, to why I am even responding... I'm gonna be straightforward, but you came out of nowhere and you are asking the same questions as if a competitor wishing to do the same thing set someone out to do some recon and fish for info. I apologize but I put too much into this to just give it all away. I've not seen anything with regards to pics of your swap to prove otherwise. Once the kit is released 25 October, you can buy the kit or stay tuned to this thread to find out what it's all about. I will not release this kit if there is gonna be anything questionable regarding safety and ease of installation. |
I am just asking out of curiousity, not as a competitor. Please do not quasi-accuse me of trying to steal your ideas.
Post Title: Re: (180sxfaktory)
Posted by: kouki munster at 8:50 PM 10/10/2006
| Quote, originally posted by 180sxfaktory » |
As for video, I've got two MP4 format videos of the car in action. Solo action and tandem with an S14 with a 2J. Both cars lighting up the place. Thanks. |
Post them up, I want to see the car in action. (I also wouldn't mind seeing the 2jz s14)
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Posted by: Florida240sx at 3:00 PM 10/11/2006
I'm doing all the work myself, along wiht any other Florida nutz that show up... The only thing i dont like is the fact that you have to pull the motor to access the turbos once its in... which let me to think might as well replace them(but they would be a pretty high cost on top of everything else) Like i said, you wont really know until you can physically inspect them.| Quote, originally posted by oneslow240se » |
| so what ever happend to this? i still like this swap but this thread has died out....... |
Maybe paint the vert with a rattle can 
| Quote, originally posted by evan86 » |
| For anyone considering this swap, definitely read up on twinturbo.net and 300zxclub. There is a wealth of information you should know about the VG. I'm lucky to be a Z32 and S13 guy. |
Evan86...I thought you sounded familiar. Yeah 300zxclub is where I hang out 95% of the time online. Great 300zx (VG30DETT) info. Check it out if you guys haven't already... Evan good luck with your swap.
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Posted by: evan86 at 12:21 AM 10/18/2006
. I understand that there's a lot of last minute things that need to be attended to, so I can be patient and wait a couple months if need be. Just let us know if you have a definite date yet. 
Torque? What TQ you got the wrong engine!What lies below is a swap for men.
Post Title: Re: (Florida240sx)
Posted by: masamunex03 at 8:06 PM 10/22/2006
| Quote, originally posted by Florida240sx » |
| Do I hear see a challenge? 1st VG 240 in florida?? You alreayd got your engine?? I want to have th ekit in my hands before I get my enigne which will only take 1-2weeks. Allows me to yank the ka and prep it for the vg Maybe paint the vert with a rattle can Going to get a custom tag for my car.... |
You should rephrase this to "1st VG30DETT 240 in florida??"
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2324257
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Posted by: Florida240sx at 3:11 PM 10/23/2006
| Quote, originally posted by Poor_S13_Driver » |
| David Steele I demand more info on your swap and progress |
soon, soon you can see but not now.
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Posted by: Florida240sx at 2:41 PM 10/25/2006
| Quote, originally posted by Florida240sx » |
| Going auto tranny on it? What you plan to have done ot engine? NA? Bottle? |
Plans:
Nissan 32-33 gtr 4wd 5 speed
Single Turbo Scavenge manifold
Cunningham Rods
Wiseco Pistons
Modified Firewall .
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Posted by: Florida240sx at 3:25 PM 10/26/2006
| Quote, originally posted by Florida240sx » |
| Going to be fun to modify the 4wd though won't it? 1st to make it work and the 2nd how hard is it going to be to switch the ratio so you could actually use it on the highway. |
4.5L has a1.7* rod stroke ratio. the stock redline in a q45 is 7200.
Stock redline in an R33 GTR is 8000 rpm
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Posted by: Florida240sx at 3:59 PM 10/26/2006
| Quote, originally posted by Florida240sx » |
| When you plan on doing it? |
When I pickup my new Miller syncrowave 200 welder.
| Quote » |
| So it's AWD then not 4wd......??? |
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Posted by: Florida240sx at 4:41 PM 10/26/2006
They show up on there for cheap this is all thats on there now.
http://search.ebay.com/q45_Com...rcloZ
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Posted by: Florida240sx at 6:25 PM 10/26/2006
Any news on the release of the vg kits yet???
Post Title: Re: (Florida240sx)
Posted by: kanye240 at 7:03 PM 10/26/2006
| Quote, originally posted by Florida240sx » |
| Yea but when he has 5 customers here waiting for the release, we shouldn't have to track him down. He was all helpful up until 2 weeks ago. He has yet to post the video of it in action |
Let's wait it out a bit...
Post Title: Re: (Neejay)
Posted by: inthawind2 at 10:25 AM 10/31/2006
| Quote, originally posted by Neejay » |
I agree. Maybe there's a good explanation (emergency?). Let's wait it out a bit... |
I was pulled back into "the game" for a few weeks to fill in for someone in Iraq. That's all I can say. The work I do sometimes calls for "disappearing" and non-comms with outside world. Figure it out. That may make some of you uncomfortable. I can understand that. Now, I am picking up where I left off. I'll be back in town this weekend.
Those who are still interested, e-mail me. I do have the links to the video shoots to get from the driver of VG240 and the other stuff.
Again, apologies.
Dale
Post Title: Re: (180sxfaktory)
Posted by: kanye240 at 6:58 AM 11/1/2006
. No need to appoligze I completle understand, "duty calls" 
Check your email to.
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Posted by: Florida240sx at 2:42 PM 11/1/2006
neejae@gmail.com for vids. Thanks.
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Posted by: fayceoff at 5:05 PM 11/1/2006
: There shouldn't be differences between JDM and USDM VG30-TT's right?
I'd LOVE to get at this RB25 powered 180sx that's terrorizing EVERYONE right now
Modified by PantherRacer at 3:47 PM 11/4/2006
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Posted by: David Steele at 7:03 PM 11/4/2006
| Quote, originally posted by David Steele » |
| Didnt know there was so much intrest in v6. I wonder how much takers would give in to the V8? |
Not just a V6, a twin turbo V6.
Post Title: Re: (Beatupsx)
Posted by: David Steele at 12:12 PM 11/5/2006
| Quote, originally posted by Beatupsx » |
| Not just a V6, a twin turbo V6. |
:cookie:
Post Title: Re: (David Steele)
Posted by: kouki munster at 9:04 AM 11/6/2006
| Quote, originally posted by David Steele » |
:cookie: |
No thanks I'm diabetic, so I can't have a cookie.
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Posted by: Florida240sx at 2:40 PM 11/6/2006
| Quote, originally posted by Florida240sx » |
| Any idea on kit release? Unless you get another phone call..... |
Good point... I think that it will be a better idea to wait until May when I am clear of any further obligations to Uncle Sam before I start offering anything substantial. The "no notice" calls, and no, I am not shielded from them, can happen. Also, the whole thread deal before I went up into the badlands with someone phishing me for info on this kit and getting really into the specs of how and wanting more photos of the work made me think of securing my designs before releasing it. Additionally, I will be in the USA the whole month of December. This impacts me from completing anything now and getting it shipped. I'm just playing catch up at this point. In summary, I'm gonna have to elect until this coming summer before I offerthe kit for S13, and along the way, I may be able to acquire an S14 so that I can offer it to both chassis.
This all may be of a disappointment to some, but I don't think I have any choice.
Post Title: Re: (David Steele)
Posted by: JesusLikesKFC at 7:38 PM 11/6/2006
| Quote, originally posted by 180sxfaktory » |
Good point... I think that it will be a better idea to wait until May when I am clear of any further obligations to Uncle Sam before I start offering anything substantial. The "no notice" calls, and no, I am not shielded from them, can happen. Also, the whole thread deal before I went up into the badlands with someone phishing me for info on this kit and getting really into the specs of how and wanting more photos of the work made me think of securing my designs before releasing it. Additionally, I will be in the USA the whole month of December. This impacts me from completing anything now and getting it shipped. I'm just playing catch up at this point. In summary, I'm gonna have to elect until this coming summer before I offerthe kit for S13, and along the way, I may be able to acquire an S14 so that I can offer it to both chassis. This all may be of a disappointment to some, but I don't think I have any choice. |
looks like these bubbles have the winter to themselves...at least i can save and build up my motor...but still.....
Post Title: Re: (180sxfaktory)
Posted by: kouki munster at 11:06 PM 11/6/2006
| Quote, originally posted by 180sxfaktory » |
Good point... I think that it will be a better idea to wait until May when I am clear of any further obligations to Uncle Sam before I start offering anything substantial. The "no notice" calls, and no, I am not shielded from them, can happen. Also, the whole thread deal before I went up into the badlands with someone phishing me for info on this kit and getting really into the specs of how and wanting more photos of the work made me think of securing my designs before releasing it. Additionally, I will be in the USA the whole month of December. This impacts me from completing anything now and getting it shipped. I'm just playing catch up at this point. In summary, I'm gonna have to elect until this coming summer before I offerthe kit for S13, and along the way, I may be able to acquire an S14 so that I can offer it to both chassis. This all may be of a disappointment to some, but I don't think I have any choice. |
Check email.
Post Title: Re: (180sxfaktory)
Posted by: fayceoff at 12:02 PM 11/7/2006
| Quote, originally posted by Florida240sx » |
| If you are able to make a kit. I have money set aside. I don't know if I can wait till May. Let me know if you want to make one so everyone can see what the car is capable of... |
| Quote, originally posted by fayceoff » |
| But the swap will still be available at your shop there, right? |
Helloooo....? bump... 
| Quote, originally posted by CleanSfourteen » |
| Holy dead thread dude!!! |
I will be in the USA on the 31st for three weeks. Part of this is to take time off, get re-acquainted with the USA (haven't been back in ages), visit tooling and equipment manufacturers and put in purchasing orders, meet with current suppliers and to just travel around without having to look at a watch. I wanna see what all the hype is about with some of the things I've been seeing and hearing about in our community. If you would like me to visit with you, I will be in NY, North Carolina and in California.
Thanks for your time and Merry Christmas!
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Posted by: Florida240sx at 8:12 AM 12/24/2006
| Quote, originally posted by 180sxfaktory » |
| Hello folks. Yes, it has been a while since I last posted here. As I said in my last one, I am getting clear of obligations that will detract me from my business, i.e., the Navy and doing missions of the unsavory type. Some other things have occurred in between all of this. Notably, I have restructured the business and am moving into a bigger facility a few buildings down from where I am at now. 180SX Faktory is going to be concentrating on building chassis parts, such as K members and other items. The VG30DETT swap subframe will be getting a new design. I will be making a purpose-built unit to use in the S13 and S14 that will not require any mods to the oil pan or swapping over to the J30 variant. The other part of my business is doing custom one-off cars on commission for newer model cars (under a different company name, of course). I will be in the USA on the 31st for three weeks. Part of this is to take time off, get re-acquainted with the USA (haven't been back in ages), visit tooling and equipment manufacturers and put in purchasing orders, meet with current suppliers and to just travel around without having to look at a watch. I wanna see what all the hype is about with some of the things I've been seeing and hearing about in our community. If you would like me to visit with you, I will be in NY, North Carolina and in California. Thanks for your time and Merry Christmas! |
What part of North Carolina?
Post Title: Re: UPDATE UPDATE (Beatupsx)
Posted by: 180sxfaktory at 11:45 AM 12/24/2006
| Quote, originally posted by Beatupsx » |
What part of North Carolina? |
Jacksonville. I will be there to visit my daughter and other family. Will do some business in the North Carolina and South Carolina area. Yes, NASCAR fabricators- we can all learn something from them guys!
Post Title: Re: VG30DETT into 1989 240SX (Reno)
Posted by: 180sxfaktory at 11:46 AM 12/24/2006
| Quote, originally posted by Reno » |
| i was wondering if u had any videos of it ? |
| Quote, originally posted by Florida240sx » |
| Merrry Christmas, any idea when the release is going to happen? |
From what I told you before, it'll be this spring. The sooner we get the mandrel bender in place (shooting for Feb), we will get to work. I have to dismantle the VG240 because for 1 solid month, it was being put through the paces every night. The only things that broke were the steering rack and both front wheel bearings. I suspect the bearings were already toast, so drifting and running on 350Z wheels finally killed them. Once I have everything apart, I wanna get them dye penetrant checked for stress cracks in all the welds and other significant stress areas. My gut feeling is the subframe and other items are fine, but I cannot and will not release anything for someone until that check has been made and a clean bill of health is observed.
The subframe will come with me to North Carolina (Mooresville) for check up and to learn their stress check techniques and get better weld tips.
Post Title: Re: (180sxfaktory)
Posted by: kouki munster at 12:26 PM 12/24/2006
| Quote, originally posted by bone_stock_240 » |
| Damn, I almost gave myself brain damage reading this all in one go. I was taken through the whole range of emotions from all out elation, to utter dissapointment. Hope this kit is still going to happen. I was thinking of doing an SR swap mainly because I was ignorant to all the other choices out there. I like how this engine was sold in North America. On that note, does anyone have any contacts for places where I would be able to get a 300zx front clip, preferrably located in eastern Canada, more specifically Ontario or Quebec. I hope this all pans out because a summer release for the kit works great for me. I will have time, and weather on my side, and beautiful beautiful tax return money to blow. |
Utter disappointment? It's gonna happen because I am moving everything to North Carolina. Being in Bahrain is great, but when I can count every S13 and S14 driver on my fingers and toes that lives out here, well, do the math. My support base and people who know me are in North America, Europe and Australia, with the majority being in North America, and because of the myriad of reasons, this is why this move is gonna happen. I found too many reasons to make the move and not too many reasons not to. Besides the business, the scene and the happenings with East Coast drifting and import car scenes of all makes.
The kit- YES, this kit is going to be the first on my list to get produced and made available. Whether you come to Jacksonville, NC to see us and have us do your complete swap or we send it to you, it's going to get out there.
A lot of folks have written regarding VG30ET from the Z31. This kit will work for it, as well. It's actually a lot easier, since the VG30ET is a smaller engine and is less complicated to deal with.
Dale
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Posted by: kouki munster at 10:34 PM 1/26/2007
| Quote, originally posted by bone_stock_240 » |
| Damn, I almost gave myself brain damage reading this all in one go. I was taken through the whole range of emotions from all out elation, to utter dissapointment. Hope this kit is still going to happen. I was thinking of doing an SR swap mainly because I was ignorant to all the other choices out there. I like how this engine was sold in North America. On that note, does anyone have any contacts for places where I would be able to get a 300zx front clip, preferrably located in eastern Canada, more specifically Ontario or Quebec. I hope this all pans out because a summer release for the kit works great for me. I will have time, and weather on my side, and beautiful beautiful tax return money to blow. |
You should ask the same place that would supply your SR motor. for the most part they should be able to get you one by the time you get the kit
Post Title: Re: VG30DETT into 1989 240SX (D2180SX)
Posted by: Brian@rpsport.net at 10:14 AM 2/4/2007
Also can you send me an E-mail with the videos ( if there ready) to ben_cork@hotmail.com
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Posted by: Shahee1 at 8:57 AM 2/8/2007
thomase1_99@yahoo.com ....
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Posted by: lifesadrift at 11:52 AM 2/8/2007
Post Title: Re: VG30DETT into 1989 240SX (D2180SX)
Posted by: edgartheace at 9:48 AM 2/27/2007
ALso you mentioned this Spring. Is that meaning youll have a date this spring or it will be released this spring?
Thanks.
Post Title: Re: VG30DETT into 1989 240SX (CoupedUp)
Posted by: Stanislav31 at 4:46 AM 3/3/2007
No hard date yet because I have upgraded and moved away from the modified stock subframe and will be making it from tube stock.
Post Title: Re: VG30DETT into 1989 240SX (Stanislav31)
Posted by: whitetshirtguy at 7:24 PM 3/6/2007
| Quote, originally posted by Stanislav31 » |
| What about a VG30DETT in a S14? |
| Quote, originally posted by Stanislav31 » |
| Do you have any idea what a stock KA weighs with an auto tranny? A VG30DETT with a 5spd shouldnt weigh that much more considering the KA is Iron block while the VG is aluminum. |
Wrong, VG is iron to.
Post Title: Re: VG30DETT into 1989 240SX (Stanislav31)
Posted by: whitetshirtguy at 7:19 AM 3/11/2007
| Quote, originally posted by Stanislav31 » |
| Do you have any idea what a stock KA weighs with an auto tranny? A VG30DETT with a 5spd shouldnt weigh that much more |
| Quote, originally posted by Beatupsx » |
| The vg should weigh in around the same as an rb. |
| Quote, originally posted by whitetshirtguy » |
| so is he ever goin to say anything about the wireing or does he not want to talk to us anymore i want this motor in my s14 and i would like to know |
I'm studying the wiring for S13, S14 for North America, UK, Europe and Asia and I am talking with a wiring company to do the custom harnesses for the dash and for power and all of the stuff that anybody would need to do this swap. Great stuff takes time, and I'm not gonna rush anything I put out there. The last thing I want is to be known for crappy products that don't work. I may be slow, but at least in the end, I can say I did it right. That goes for the hard stuff , as well. If anybody ends up with the kit from me, they will thank me for taking my time because this swap went from a challenge, to a working example, to almost being released as is, and now to refinement and copyright.
Let it be known that I am doing this all by myself, and I do not have some gigantic research lab and a clock that warps time. Just a small place, good friends, equipment, a main job to fuel all of this stuff plus my own projects and an end goal. If people are disappointed with me, and yeah, it's my fault for being too promising initially, I apologize. As I said in a few posts ago, I have a client that is gonna be here this month with his 240SX, and we will go from there. I'm not gonna rush for any money or promises of fame. That's for amateurs.
Post Title: Re: VG30DETT into 1989 240SX (180sxfaktory)
Posted by: mould_jesus at 9:10 AM 3/16/2007
as soon as you release this kit, and i mean AS SOON AS you release it, you will be recieving an order.
i've been wanting to swap a VG30 into my S14, but was unsure of whether i should go for it because of the risk of having to fabricate when i've got no fabrication skills.
if there's a kit, however, that's much different.
Post Title: Re: VG30DETT into 1989 240SX (mould_jesus)
Posted by: Reno at 11:12 AM 3/16/2007
| Quote, originally posted by Reno » |
| videos yet?? |
Sorry. None to be had. I was promised videos and told of videos, but nothing. I'm starting all over again with this whole affair. Just goes to show one if one wants something done, one does it oneself.
The VG240 has been out of service for a few months, and needs to have maintenance done. We have a drift contest a few days after F1 next month, and I'll make sure I get video of it. Salah has been concentrating on his Mustang, Caterham racing and Mini Cooper Cup racing, and I've been heavily wrapped up with my 180SX (swapped out the CA20DET and put in a zenki S14 SR20DET; daily driver use; tired of driving a Corolla), 200SX project and doing R&D for my line of coilover systems under my MAYHEM line (no, I did not make these; I have a professional dampener/suspension company making them for me; releasing these soon).
Post Title: Re: VG30DETT into 1989 240SX (180sxfaktory)
Posted by: MeanGreenS13 at 3:59 PM 3/16/2007
| Quote, originally posted by 180sxfaktory » |
I'm studying the wiring for S13, S14 for North America, UK, Europe and Asia and I am talking with a wiring company to do the custom harnesses for the dash and for power and all of the stuff that anybody would need to do this swap. Great stuff takes time, and I'm not gonna rush anything I put out there. The last thing I want is to be known for crappy products that don't work. I may be slow, but at least in the end, I can say I did it right. That goes for the hard stuff , as well. If anybody ends up with the kit from me, they will thank me for taking my time because this swap went from a challenge, to a working example, to almost being released as is, and now to refinement and copyright. Let it be known that I am doing this all by myself, and I do not have some gigantic research lab and a clock that warps time. Just a small place, good friends, equipment, a main job to fuel all of this stuff plus my own projects and an end goal. If people are disappointed with me, and yeah, it's my fault for being too promising initially, I apologize. As I said in a few posts ago, I have a client that is gonna be here this month with his 240SX, and we will go from there. I'm not gonna rush for any money or promises of fame. That's for amateurs. |
| Quote, originally posted by whitetshirtguy » |
didnt try and sound rude i just hadnt read anything bout it in a while and i just want to know what is goin on but you have anwserd my question |
You weren't rude. Sorry for sounding so hardcore. I apologize for this seemingly long process.
Post Title: Re: VG30DETT into 1989 240SX (180sxfaktory)
Posted by: 180sxfaktory at 2:11 PM 3/17/2007
By taking my working example of VG240 and evolving to the custom tube cross-member/sub-frame for the VG30DE/DETT, at least I am thinking in the right direction. With a tube cross-member, I can ensure that the engine/transmission and driveshaft all line up properly by being able to raise/lower the engine in an effort to ensure that the power produced does not get wasted and gets transmitted to the rear more efficiently. Another benefit by doing this, I am allowing for more room, as well as widening the scope of engines that can be placed in the S13/S14 chassis.
Post Title: Re: VG30DETT into 1989 240SX (180sxfaktory)
Posted by: EMK at 12:01 PM 3/22/2007
. I myself just recently got my 240 and I want to do this swap plus a 6 speed tranny and possibly later on upgrade to TT. You know 350Z/ GTR powertrain. I have time to wait and save I just wanna know if you have any plans of doing this one. | Quote, originally posted by MeanGreenS13 » |
| oilpan, kframe, tranny mount etc |
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Posted by: midnightsky at 8:06 PM 4/30/2007
Ok, like a good little noob I did my research. Except one question, how much is this custom drive shaft going to cost me?
Post Title: Re: VG30DETT into 1989 240SX (midnightsky)
Posted by: kouki munster at 5:08 PM 5/1/2007
| Quote, originally posted by midnightsky » |
| sorry for double post Ok, like a good little noob I did my research. Except one question, how much is this custom drive shaft going to cost me? |
$300 +/- $50
Post Title: Re: VG30DETT into 1989 240SX (Beatupsx)
Posted by: midnightsky at 5:41 PM 5/1/2007
I found this one website that sells vg30dett's. They have two different ones. One with just the engine, and one with a bit more stuff, like the ECU. Do I have to get a half cut? Because don't know if I can.
Here is the link, will this do? Will I have to buy anything else? http://www.japanmotorimport.co...90-95
Thanks for helping a automotive noob out >_>
Post Title: Re: VG30DETT into 1989 240SX (midnightsky)
Posted by: komete at 11:00 AM 5/3/2007
Width across the top at the intakes?
Overall Length at the top.
Overall depth intakes to the oil pan.
Estimates are ok but I would prefer 'as close as possible' numbers in inches please.
I am tyring to figure out some clearances for a Hardbody engine 2.4L to VG30DETT conversion.
Thanks in advance!
Post Title: Re: VG30DETT into 1989 240SX (Big-Bird)
Posted by: MeanGreenS13 at 6:58 PM 5/13/2007
i like! | Quote, originally posted by Big-Bird » |
| Seeing that you folks are so well versed on the VG30DETT. Is there someone in here who might have the dimensional specs on this motor?
I am tyring to figure out some clearances for a Hardbody engine 2.4L to VG30DETT conversion. Thanks in advance! |
| Quote, originally posted by fayceoff » |
| I met with Dale yesterday and gave him the deposit for my Z32 half-cut. I went and looked at the shop, and while they don't have much by way of space and high-tech tools, they are doing big things there. There's an S14 Silvia with a 2JZ-GTE swap and I believe a T70 turbo, a first-gen Supra with a 1JZ-GTE swap, as well as an FD being rebuilt pretty much from the ground up. I'm very impressed with both Dale and the other guys in the garage. I just received word today that my car has arrived here in Bahrain, but unfortunately I have to go out on a mission in a matter of hours and I won't be able to pick it up for a couple of weeks. I'll keep you guys posted as things get done with my project - I'm calling it the Mayhem FairladySX. Look for a new thread when I get back and take some before pictures as things get rolling. |
Here it is - the beginning. http://forums.nicoclub.com/zerothread?id=254507
Post Title: Re: VG30DETT into 1989 240SX (fayceoff)
Posted by: Hughretro at 10:25 AM 6/1/2007
| Quote, originally posted by Matchbox » |
| What ever happen to mass producing this swap kit? |
Coming right after FAYCEOFF's debuts for you in August. I think a client who can tell you all of the pluses and minuses of this swap will do a lot for educating the potential clients who do want this.
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Posted by: 180sxfaktory at 1:00 PM 7/12/2007
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Posted by: Jyon9689 at 1:29 PM 7/12/2007
Are you sourcing a manual transmission, because from the pics the front-cut Z32 looks like an automatic
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Posted by: Zee at 1:33 PM 7/12/2007
http://forums.nicoclub.com/zerothread?id=254507
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Posted by: 180sxfaktory at 2:31 PM 7/12/2007
Here's the product page
http://www.twistmachine.com/products/shrifter.html
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Posted by: 180sxfaktory at 2:38 PM 7/12/2007
This is the driver side rail on the inside.
This is still the driver side rail just where the rail kicks up to meet the main rail.
Driver side inside the front wheel well.
Floor rot. Looks like an unclean gash that is festering. I was able to punch through with a screwdriver.
Me with my hand stuck in the rotted rail. Good thing my tetanus shot is still good.
My partner, Shakr holding a rot chip. Yes, I would like Pepsi, chicken shawarma and rot chips, please.
We were able to get a lot of work done today, and here's the result.
jk! This is one of the Supra's we did for one of the local clients. A 1994 USDM Supra that was originally an NA. Now holds a stock 2JZGTE with manual gear. Her name is "Sexy Time".
Buttloads of hot gash, I mean hot cash has gone into this machine. It's nice to have clients who appreciate the finer things in life.
Nice rear!
Work Emotion wheels 18x10 wrapped with Pirelli P Zero rubber. Just silky sexy!
My friend and patron, Lawrence.
Next up... Garrett single turbo. We're working with Garrett to match the new single snail that will go into this ride. 
Crew next door... The BMW Bros steady jackin' an E30 from Japan's slumped foreign car market
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Posted by: fayceoff at 1:07 PM 7/16/2007
| Quote, originally posted by 180sxfaktory » |
| Yes, I would like Pepsi, chicken shawarma and rot chips, please. |
hahaha. yeah, yeah, yeah... I already told everyone that my car was a beater for the moment. Did you wash your hands, Dale? I'm glad I'm having that rot repaired here instead of in the States. It's going to cost 180 Bahraini Dinar, which is about $475-480. Quick, someone who does metal/bodywork in the US tell me how much this would cost there.
Oh, and that Supra is so sick it makes my stomach hurt. It's cars like that, that make me realize that I'm a bit of a hater. Ah well.
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Posted by: 180sxfaktory at 1:37 PM 7/16/2007
Just to let you know, that rot will be surgically removed minimum 4 inches in front and rear of the undamaged metal, floorboard will be removed and new metal floorpan welded in and the areas primed, painted and undercoated. To facilitate this work, we will be doing two things almost at once- removing that KA and assorted items while the artisans start doing their thing with the surgery to take care of the rot. I'll be bringing the halfcut to the subcontractor's place since we don't have any room at the shop right now. No worries... all in good hands. Good value for the money. Stateside... I have no idea what someone would even charge. Yes, Lawrence's Supra is plenty nice! We did work on it last night with replacing some light relays and hooked up the aircon and did some wire clean-up. The seats in Sexy Time have to go! I hate them. Lawrence will probably be opting for some BRIDE seats, since he's so JDM.
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Posted by: dexterous at 7:02 PM 7/16/2007
| Quote, originally posted by Kraayl » |
| Oh yeah i understand its going to be pricey but i got the engine tranny lsd axles 5lug for cheap. Im not going to start the swap till i have everything im going to need, so even if i get your kit im guessing it will take a little longer to get everything else squared away. |
Same way with me. I am starting to get everything I want and this swap kit another part on the list. I am even thinking about buying a parts car that has a 5 lug swap and a whole bunch more stuff just to try to keep the cost down a little. I really can't wait till next month to get this, and get everything else squared away.
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Posted by: KiNgEnMa at 7:15 AM 7/20/2007
I have a 89 s13 240sx that has the ka24e motor in it. i bought it for 1,300 bucks about a year ago and unfortunately it has 4 lug hubs in it. so I've been looking at prices for the conversion kits and they are outrageous. Well a friend of mine has a 90 300zx with the 5 lug hubs that will fit the 240. I'm getting a hell of a deal i'm buying his whole car for $450 bucks and thats including a set of 17" konig monsoon rims - check em out there nice. The car is a fricken steal the only reason i'm getting it so cheap is b/c one of his friends was working on it and pulled out the dip stick and when he went to put it back in he grounded out the motor he accidently hit the positive battery terminal and touched the motor. well when he did that it fried 3 of the fuel injectors and thats all it needs and it will run. So i've been thinking about doing the vg30 swap in my 240 since i'm basically getting a whole car for free all i'm technically paying for is the wheels b/c there worth around a grand. so with that in mind i'm gonna have the 5 lug conversion and i plan to do something wild that i haven't seen anyone do yet. I've measured the t-tops out of the 300 and they will fit in my roof. My 240 has never had a sun roof so its all sheet metal. and i hope to have my hatch open sideways thats another thing i'm trying to do with mine. So not all swaps are expensive you just have to find dumb ppl
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Posted by: MeanGreenS13 at 6:58 AM 7/28/2007
anyway, whens this gonna be available... it ssummer... and a few people and now myself want to know... WILL THIS WORK ON AN S14?
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Posted by: 180sxfaktory at 1:22 PM 7/28/2007
phil
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Posted by: 180sxfaktory at 5:14 PM 7/28/2007
| Quote, originally posted by MeanGreenS13 » |
| no, i was still under the assumption it was a modified factory subframe... what do you expect the price of this to be around? ballpark |
Man, if I even try to ballpqark it now, I may be shooting myself. I'll announce it next month after the first client's car is done.
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Posted by: 180sxfaktory at 4:47 AM 8/1/2007
Now that the chassis is structurally sound with new metal and fresh welds, we can start the process of yanking out the KA and start doing the fabbing up for the VG30DETT's new home. I will go back over the repaired areas and reinforce, as necessary, once everything is taken out.
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Posted by: fayceoff at 6:10 AM 8/4/2007
I get so tired of all the whining and flaming on the ka vs sr vs Ca, its gotten so old and has so many fanboys that I can never really get a awnser that doesnt seem tainted.
After seeing the VG30DETT swap on here I have fallen in love with it, as I only really want my car for a stang stomper and a track car on the weekend when I have time. I've always loved the 300zx tt's, especially the sound of the dual exhaust........mmmmmmm..
I like the way the engine sits in the bay, it looks awsome.
the only thing that I have searched 4 forum sites (including this one) I have not yet found the weight for the VG30DETT as oppossed to the Ka and how the motor swap effects the front/rear weight ratio. It seems to me that the motor is going to be a little heavier but it sits back farther, I would think that its probally feels pretty balanced.
How has this swap affected the handling and weight ration, this is my only question.
look forward to the release of this kit
also would like to see any vids you have of the car running
please send to Silviaconfb@yahoo.com
thank you
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Posted by: 180sxfaktory at 7:56 AM 8/12/2007
Yeah, all these flame wars over this engine and that engine and which is more superior is pretty old. Every engine is going to have its plusses and minuses, as cars go, not everybody likes the same stuff. That's a good thing, because it promotes creativity and keeps things off balance. I hate balance, meaning, I hate cookie cutter cars.
As for the video of this car going through the paces, that's gonna be AJ's job. I don't think he'd appreciate me rodeoing his car. As for the original car that debuted last year. The original owner and my original partner has moved on to greener pastures, and I wish him luck. I never got the videos for that car, but a lot of people in the Middle East saw it and it did get through nightly beatdowns in 100 degree heat for 30 days straight with nothing happening. The last time he came out with the car, which was the kickoff for F1, in which six of us came out and did a drift exhibition, the engine was hurting. He came up to me for help and I passed him off to Shakr. Shakr asked him where his mechanic was. A strange situation, but we got through it. The guy ended up thieving two of my new Bridgestone tires that I received as compensation.
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Posted by: SilviaConFb at 8:03 AM 8/12/2007
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Posted by: fayceoff at 11:57 AM 8/12/2007
When I seen this it was like a holy light shown down *angels singing and everything* might have been the nightquil but who knows lol.
I think this is definitly the swap for me.
Hope the car rocks fayceoff, you even have the front light kit i had decided on!
Any word on moving your work to the states faktory?
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Posted by: Florida240sx at 2:40 PM 8/12/2007
| Quote, originally posted by 180sxfaktory » |
| Believe me, mang, anything I damage, I will replace. By Christmas? Not even that long! Also, when I see you, I am gonna need a copy of your orders so that I can give it to Personal Property Office. |
That's why I asked for your mailing address in the e-mail. And I said by Christmas cuz I was accounting for the vehicle shipping time. It took them like a month and a half to get it from the states to Bahrain and that was in the spring when the seas are calm, so....
Post Title: Re: (fayceoff)
Posted by: 180sxfaktory at 3:33 PM 8/12/2007
Villa 131
Barbar Street
Barbar
Kingdom of Bahrain
Area 520
If you wanna wait until I see you in a few weeks...
Post Title: Re: VG30DETT into 1989 240SX (SilviaConFb)
Posted by: fayceoff at 3:50 PM 8/12/2007
| Quote, originally posted by SilviaConFb » |
| Hope the car rocks fayceoff, you even have the front light kit i had decided on! |
I was talking to this guy...
Post Title: Re: VG30DETT into 1989 240SX (180sxfaktory)
Posted by: SilviaConFb at 6:52 AM 8/13/2007
| Quote, originally posted by 180sxfaktory » |
| More pics taken
|
That one , this is your car right?
either way thats hawt
Post Title: Re: VG30DETT into 1989 240SX (SilviaConFb)
Posted by: 180sxfaktory at 7:10 AM 8/13/2007
| Quote, originally posted by 180sxfaktory » |
| It WAS hot... The original owner and partner in this start up has moved on, and as I said earlier, it is now tore up due to owner negligence, but my frames and stuff are still intact. I offered to buy the car from him, but he wanted more money than what it is worth. Kaliwali (Arabic saying for "leave it be"). |
Oh my mistake, I shouldve read a lil more.
I love those headlights.....thats a must for when I get my car. hopefully soon, I'm tired of driving the toyota 4x4 
Post Title: Re: VG30DETT into 1989 240SX (SilviaConFb)
Posted by: fayceoff at 7:22 AM 8/13/2007
| Quote, originally posted by SilviaConFb » |
Oh my mistake, I shouldve read a lil more. I love those headlights.....thats a must for when I get my car. hopefully soon, I'm tired of driving the toyota 4x4 |
No worries! East Bear is the maker of those lights. Those eBay ones stick too far up and look like total a$$.
Post Title: Re: VG30DETT into 1989 240SX (fayceoff)
Posted by: 180sxfaktory at 7:56 AM 8/13/2007
| Quote, originally posted by fayceoff » |
| Yeah, I'm planning on a sil80 swap for my car.... I think those and Eastbear are really the only fixed headlights that look right on an S13. |
AJ, I've got those black wheels from the prototype that is shown. They are some Koenig wheels. The front is 18 x7.5 and the rear 19x8.0. I'll put them on your car as an appreciation gift, if you want.
Post Title: Re: VG30DETT into 1989 240SX (180sxfaktory)
Posted by: fayceoff at 6:19 PM 8/13/2007
$265 shipped!
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Posted by: 180sxfaktory at 2:59 AM 8/14/2007
I think when it comes time for paint, the R32 wheels would look fantastic in a gloss black with chrome lugs. The factory blue that the car is painted now. I have always liked that color.
Post Title: Re: VG30DETT into 1989 240SX (180sxfaktory)
Posted by: fayceoff at 5:21 AM 8/14/2007
A company in Japan named "PROF" did some work with your computer. I tried to find some info on this company. Anyway, it says GCZ32 Fairlady Z VG30DETT Twin Turbo A/T. The only reason someone would have a computer re-chipped is to remove the speed limiter and boost cut, at a minimum. I will look at the injectors and determine if those were upgraded. Wouldn't make sense for the Z32 to upgrade a fuel pump unless it was a racer, since the Z32 fuel pump is already pretty robust. Regardless, the previous owner saved you some coinage.
Shakr and I were prepping the work area. I sat there and just studied the engine and stuff for a while. Compared to the prototype, I am going to use a lot more of what is there from the Z32 half cut because it is a lot cleaner than the one I did last year.
For example, I am thinking of using the Z32 gauge cluster and cluster bezel. Dimensionally, together it looks the same, but I have to take some measurements. It'll definitely clear. That's if you want me to try. My reason is to keep as much of the Z32 intact in the 240SX, and it will give your car that "one-off" that nobody else is gonna have.
Anyway, Shakr and I have fires lit on our a$$es to turn to and get going, boss.
Post Title: Re: VG30DETT into 1989 240SX (180sxfaktory)
Posted by: fayceoff at 2:52 PM 8/14/2007
Oh, and I got the glovebox cover that ordered for your car in today adn I'm going to get started on it tonight.
Modified by fayceoff at 7:21 PM 8/14/2007
Post Title: Re: VG30DETT into 1989 240SX (fayceoff)
Posted by: 180sxfaktory at 6:30 PM 8/14/2007
Yeah, that upgrade is worth $600-$800 in Japan. Z32 always seems expensive, but you definitely got your money's worth with that ECU. Yeah, I was hoping you'd say use as much of the front clip as possible!
You won't need a boost gauge, since the factory gauge cluster already has the boost gauge. Some guys will run one to see if there is a split. I'll install one on the passenger side for a more accurate reading, since Shakr will be co-piloting when we get to the shakedown, and we're all about crew coordination! You know how we do in Naval Aviation- two of everything.
Post Title: Re: VG30DETT into 1989 240SX (180sxfaktory)
Posted by: fayceoff at 6:36 PM 8/14/2007
| Quote, originally posted by 180sxfaktory » |
| I will go back over the repaired areas and reinforce, as necessary, once everything is taken out. |
If I see something that I feel needs reinforced, I do it. There is a methodology to my madness. With any hybridization that gets done to a car that never came OEM with the type of engines we are seeing being put into them today, believe me, the chassis needs some reinforcement. As for the chassis repair work, the stuff is spot on, but since the car is going to be powered by a VG30DETT, which will put a lot more stress on the chassis, I will reinforce the areas of the car that need it. I think I enlightened you to it in my other thread. Not necessarily stitch weld, but will reinforce with additional metal bridges at certain stress points. A 300ZX Z32 chassis is much more robust than the S13.
Sure, you hear about people swapping in RB20-RB26, as well as 1JZ/2JZ and LSX but I am willing to bet that a lot of these cars had no reinforcements done. Believe me, just because a swap happens to be doable and buttloads of people are doing it, there are added new stresses put on that chassis and the suspension, and it's a matter of time before things start to go wrong.
Post Title: Re: (KiNgEnMa)
Posted by: 180sxfaktory at 2:56 AM 8/16/2007
| Quote, originally posted by KiNgEnMa » |
| hey 180sxfaktory i left you an email sometime ago but i haven't heard back yet, not sure if u got it or not. but anyway i have a lot of questions i wanna talk in depth with you. is there any way i can get a 1 on 1 session anytime soon? aim or msn or something... |
I saw your post that you sent me an e-mail, but I didn't receive anything. If you are wanting to talk about what is done, how and stuff associated, I apologize, but I am not releasing that info. I've had too many people in the past, some from within the industry, try to get me to talk about it. I appreciate your enthusiasm, though.
Post Title: Re: (180sxfaktory)
Posted by: Zee at 5:18 AM 8/16/2007
*nevermind just seen fayceoffs thread* ***EDIT***
Post Title: Re: (Zee)
Posted by: 180sxfaktory at 6:42 AM 8/16/2007
| Quote, originally posted by Zee » |
| There is not that many days till the end of the month. Everything still on schedule? |
We're pushing ahead, but if it goes beyond, then I will say so. Since you sked, it's not gonna be completed this month. I have to return to the USA for a few weeks to process out of the Navy. Shakr will press on, and when I get back home (here in Bahrain) next month, we'll turn and burn. I'm not rushing for anybody. Sorry to be blunt, but I take some pride in my work, especially if it's for a client.
Post Title: Re: (180sxfaktory)
Posted by: Zee at 7:19 AM 8/16/2007
| Quote, originally posted by 180sxfaktory » |
We're pushing ahead, but if it goes beyond, then I will say so. Since you sked, it's not gonna be completed this month. I have to return to the USA for a few weeks to process out of the Navy. Shakr will press on, and when I get back home (here in Bahrain) next month, we'll turn and burn. I'm not rushing for anybody. Sorry to be blunt, but I take some pride in my work, especially if it's for a client. |
I can completely understand that. I just wanted to see how things were going. I wouldn't want you to rush it out knowing that FayceOff is a good guy and that this project for him is going to make you have a HUGE customer base. I am glad to see you have your pritoties straight and I can't wait to see it done.
On a side note, you are staying in Bahrain?
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Posted by: ZenkiOwns at 10:53 AM 8/16/2007
I browsed your website, but didn't see a pricerange.
Please email me with more details regarding it.
Zenkiowns@yahoo.com
...
and thumbs up on all of your work. I'm glad someone finally decided you can drive around in a powerful STREET car, sitting in A/C and the luxury of cruise control.
Post Title: Re: (180sxfaktory)
Posted by: nwmrkt at 11:14 AM 8/16/2007
| Quote, originally posted by 180sxfaktory » |
| If you are questioning if the repairs made to the chassis are rock solid, they are. Old, rotted stuff was cut out, new metal welded in, ground down, and surface treated. Performance? No different than new OEM. If I see something that I feel needs reinforced, I do it. There is a methodology to my madness. With any hybridization that gets done to a car that never came OEM with the type of engines we are seeing being put into them today, believe me, the chassis needs some reinforcement. As for the chassis repair work, the stuff is spot on, but since the car is going to be powered by a VG30DETT, which will put a lot more stress on the chassis, I will reinforce the areas of the car that need it. I think I enlightened you to it in my other thread. Not necessarily stitch weld, but will reinforce with additional metal bridges at certain stress points. A 300ZX Z32 chassis is much more robust than the S13. Sure, you hear about people swapping in RB20-RB26, as well as 1JZ/2JZ and LSX but I am willing to bet that a lot of these cars had no reinforcements done. Believe me, just because a swap happens to be doable and buttloads of people are doing it, there are added new stresses put on that chassis and the suspension, and it's a matter of time before things start to go wrong. |
Ic, thanks for the insight anyways are you going to posting up when you do the "reinforcement" that would be cool to see.
Thanks
Post Title: Re: (Zee)
Posted by: 180sxfaktory at 12:19 PM 8/16/2007
| Quote, originally posted by Zee » |
I can completely understand that. I just wanted to see how things were going. I wouldn't want you to rush it out knowing that FayceOff is a good guy and that this project for him is going to make you have a HUGE customer base. I am glad to see you have your pritoties straight and I can't wait to see it done. On a side note, you are staying in Bahrain? |
Thanks for your support Besides the fact that AJ is an awesome guy, a patriot, brother in arms who I have gotten to know personally, I will treat everybody the same way. There's some give and take here, and I really appreciate the fact that he has gone through great lengths to get this project underway. No, I have too much respect for AJ, aka FAYCEOFF, and for him to do this out of all people is a blessing that I do not count lightly.
AJ, I appreciate your trust and faith, bro... Thank you from the bottom of my heart, and with that, we're making sure it goes off as planned. Hopefully, better than planned.
I was going to come back to the USA but after some soul-searching and some things that just can't be explained with mere words (good things), I am going to further establish myself here. I've got some people who have actually seen what I can do and like the results, and that's been besides working with cars and stuff. I've done some business plans and have helped some people get their stuff up and going, and to sum it all up, my heart is here. I want to come back to the USA, but after I've done some more work and built up some cred as well as some grip, because to do what I want to do in the USA is gonna take more than just a handshake and a promise.
Post Title: Re: (ZenkiOwns)
Posted by: 180sxfaktory at 12:23 PM 8/16/2007
| Quote, originally posted by ZenkiOwns » |
| After the first five pages, I decided to skip to the end. I browsed your website, but didn't see a pricerange. Please email me with more details regarding it. Zenkiowns@yahoo.com ... |
Thanks for reading this and for going to the site.
I took the price off because I don't wanna shoot myself in the foot. I apologize, but please wait until FAYCEOFF's is completed, and then when we've gone over the numbers, I will put up an accurate price list.. I do know there will be three levels- master kit, intermediate, starter. Each level will build off the other. The starter kit will get you just the basics.
Post Title: Re: (nwmrkt)
Posted by: 180sxfaktory at 12:25 PM 8/16/2007
| Quote, originally posted by 180sxfaktory » |
| For that, I will definitely do. I see too many people running around with big engine swaps and the damn things are just dangerous and harmful to the chassis and to themselves and to the general public. Good idea! |
. Also by reinforcing...is it because of the extra weight of the VG or more power the engine produces/will? Aside from reinforcing with braces etc, stitching or of course a cage would satisfy that as well correct? Hmmm, im doing a run of the mill sr into my s13, but later on down the road big power upgrades will be done...would you suggest reinforcement be done also?Thanks!
Post Title: Re: (nwmrkt)
Posted by: 180sxfaktory at 6:37 AM 8/17/2007
| Quote, originally posted by 180sxfaktory » |
Thanks for reading this and for going to the site. I took the price off because I don't wanna shoot myself in the foot. I apologize, but please wait until FAYCEOFF's is completed, and then when we've gone over the numbers, I will put up an accurate price list.. I do know there will be three levels- master kit, intermediate, starter. Each level will build off the other. The starter kit will get you just the basics. |
Thanks for the info. Can't wait for the release.
Post Title: Re: (ZenkiOwns)
Posted by: 180sxfaktory at 1:02 PM 8/19/2007
Something's amiss!
I think it needs V-6 TT power...
What comes out does not necessarily come back in. MAYHEM FairladySX will be sporting a 1998 VG30DETT with automatic. I was a bit surprised to find a modded ECU the other day. Wouldn't it be nice to find twin HKS GT2530 and some 550cc injectors? We shall see tomorrow. Not getting up anybody's hopes, but it's nice to dream. Maybe it will come true. Who knows? All I know is that the previous owner did put some thought into this engine.
Anyway, now that the 240SX has the engine and transmission out, I was able to look around inside the bay. The bay is in excellent shape, and that's always a good thing. When we remove the VG30DETT and transmission, we'll be able to determine if anything trick was done. The thing with VG30DETT, they are a real pain to work with since the car itself was designed around the engine, but in the S13 chassis, it's a lot easier.
As per FAYCEOFF's request, we will be using as much of the swap chassis as we can. I will incorporate the front chassis harness and the dash harness and splice in the necessary KA harness where it counts.
Geting a little ahead of myself here... Next step is to clean the bay area by degreasing and removing any of the peripheral items that will not be used and doing some preventative maintenance. I am very ecstatic that the frame rails are not corroded out because it will make our job much easier. As I said previously, the chassis will be reinforced at the stress points. This car will bring enjoyment and satisfaction for years to come. Simultaneously, the donor engine and gearbox will get the TLC because you guys know how much I hate dirt, grease, oil and rust/oxidation. Simple Green, stainless steel pads, diesel/kerosene, WD40 and some old fashioned elbow grease will be applied.
The harnesses will be checked thoroughly, unraveled, cleaned and reassembled with special emphasis on the connectors. I really hate dirty, frazzled wire harnesses, and I will treat this car as it it were mine. This is where Obsessive/Compulsive Disorder is actually a plus.
I'm excited to be working on this project, so stay tuned. AJ, weigh in as necessary, since this is your car.
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Posted by: johngriff at 4:44 PM 8/19/2007
Viva la VG Revolution!
Post Title: Re: (180sxfaktory)
Posted by: fayceoff at 7:52 PM 8/19/2007
| Quote, originally posted by 180sxfaktory » |
| Say good-bye! |
Good-bye, POS, missing on one cylinder KA24E motor!
| Quote, originally posted by 180sxfaktory » |
| ...and I will treat this car as it it were mine. This is where Obsessive/Compulsive Disorder is actually a plus. I'm excited to be working on this project, so stay tuned. |
I gotta tell you, Dale... We had the memorial for my son this afternoon, and I'm a little drunk right now, but this is almost as emotional moment as any other I had today. Jaymee was so excited about being the first to ride in this car. He was the only one I really talked to about my plans for the car, and I know he's excited right now too. Get the car painted blue, please. He would have loved seeing that in the driveway.... I'm thrilled that the real work is underway. AsSalaamAlaikum (Peace and blessings) to everyone.
Post Title: Re: (fayceoff)
Posted by: 180sxfaktory at 11:00 PM 8/19/2007
Again, thank you for entrusting this project to me and Shakr.
Post Title: Re: (180sxfaktory)
Posted by: 180sxfaktory at 3:39 AM 8/20/2007
I am also wanting to find out the date of manufacture of the car and how many were produced that day. That's being ultra-anal. No dollar value, but it's pieces of history that is better to find out now versus somewhere decades from now. It's nice to know these things.
Post Title: Re: (johngriff)
Posted by: SilviaConFb at 2:23 PM 8/20/2007
| Quote, originally posted by johngriff » |
| Thought I would just bounce on, and post whore it up real quick with some pics! Viva la VG Revolution!
|
Thats just awsome.
Post Title: Re: (180sxfaktory)
Posted by: Zee at 2:38 PM 8/20/2007
| Quote, originally posted by Zee » |
| Dude Silvia stop quoting pics. Learn not to be a newbie. |
Blow MeH where mEh pampers is.
Sorry dale, wasnt trying to threadjack by flaming :P
Btw that was a quick reply i did to those pics since i was just checking up on this post b4 i ran off to work.
Modified by SilviaConFb at 8:25 AM 8/21/2007
Post Title: Re: (SilviaConFb)
Posted by: 180sxfaktory at 7:42 AM 8/21/2007
| Quote, originally posted by SilviaConFb » |
Blow MeH where mEh pampers is. |
Brothers, please... not here. Thank you.
Post Title: Re: (180sxfaktory)
Posted by: Zee at 7:07 PM 8/21/2007
| Quote, originally posted by 180sxfaktory » |
| I'm in the USA right now. Hung out with the AJ and the Clark Family last night and watched UFC. Not going to be any real updates until I get back to Bahrain. |
So your in NC right now? I am in SC about 5 miles away from the border.
Post Title: Re: (Zee)
Posted by: fayceoff at 4:51 PM 8/26/2007
I... must... get... uuuhhhh... back... in... uuuuuuuhhhh... car... and... and... and... TWIST THE **** OUTTA IT!!!
Post Title: Re: (180sxfaktory)
Posted by: Zee at 5:18 PM 8/31/2007
| Quote, originally posted by Zee » |
| Dale you think you can hook me up with a half-cut? |
Just a reminder to remind me next week when I return to Bahrain. Thanks!
Post Title: Re: (Kraayl)
Posted by: Flicktitty at 9:56 PM 9/3/2007
| Quote, originally posted by 180sxfaktory » |
Just a reminder to remind me next week when I return to Bahrain. Thanks! |
Thanks a lot I will be sure to remind you.
Post Title: Re: (Zee)
Posted by: Zee at 5:02 PM 9/9/2007
It is next week and I can't wait to get the half-cut so I can get started on it.
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Posted by: jamesblonde82 at 10:17 AM 9/22/2007
In summary, if you can do it (the VG30DETT swap into S chassis), then do it, BUT don't come to me asking for specs and how I did this and that. I took the challenge last year and busted my a$$ to do it just to make a point with that prototype (RIP; trying to get it back, though). If you want my kit, then wait. Yes, I am as slow as a snail, and there were reasons for that previously, but now that I am doing my thing full time, we'll see things cooking along.
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Posted by: sommmatt at 2:26 PM 9/25/2007
It doesn't just stop there... Here's what you have to contend with just to access it...
The bezel
has this...
that bridges the bezel and the cluster, and it is covered by a...
clamshell
Ok... now you are probably wondering WTF?! Why are we looking at a Z32 gauge/bezel/clamshell? Well, in this case, AJ expressed that he wants to use as much from the half cut as possible, so I will be modifying the LHD S13 dashboard to accomodate the Z32-spec gauge combo.
As I said previously, the car was designed and built around the power plant, but the interior was also built around the driver. Everything from climate control, lighting, cruise control, wiper control is right there in front of the driver in plain view. The layout reminded me of my days as a FA-18 Hornet driver instantly, but without all of the redundant displays and comms boxes. All this thing needs now is a HUD!
Here's the controllers
Lighting/Cruise/Defogger Controller (goes on the right side)
Digital Climate/Windshield Wiper Controller (goes on the left)
The gauge combo is all wired in and runs to controller boxes located in the passenger footwell area where the ECU is also located
That's a pretty smart idea, especially when it comes to troubleshooting factory amenities like climate control, for instance.
Post Title: Re: (sommmatt)
Posted by: 180sxfaktory at 2:45 PM 9/25/2007
| Quote, originally posted by sommmatt » |
| ^ FWHP? |
FWHP is Fly Wheel Horsepower.
Post Title: Re: (180sxfaktory)
Posted by: 180sxfaktory at 2:51 PM 9/25/2007
Not to worry, though, I will be doing the swap instructions for the S13 dash gauge cluster as the normal edition.
Post Title: Re: (180sxfaktory)
Posted by: 180sxfaktory at 2:55 PM 9/25/2007
The Twin SMIC system and intake/piping network. Not a big deal? Hahahaha! You will be in for a surprise, buddy! You better bring your lunch. But it is a vital part of the swap, so stay tuned for my updates tomorrow nite.
Post Title: Re: (180sxfaktory)
Posted by: sommmatt at 3:19 PM 9/25/2007
On that note, I still can't believe the amount of custom work you're doing on this car. Everything you do comes together nicely and I can't wait to see the finished project, and I bet Fayceoff can't either.
Post Title: Re: (sommmatt)
Posted by: 180sxfaktory at 3:34 PM 9/25/2007
I've only got one chance to do something right, and yeah, there is gonna be a buttload of custom work on MAYHEM, but this is Jaymee's car and I wanna make sure that it would pass his inspection.
I can't wait to finish it, as well. Being in Bahrain is a blessing and a curse. My overhead is way lower than what it would be in North America, BUT the client base is in North America.
Post Title: Re: (sommmatt)
Posted by: fayceoff at 2:42 AM 9/26/2007
| Quote, originally posted by sommmatt » |
| On that note, I still can't believe the amount of custom work you're doing on this car. Everything you do comes together nicely and I can't wait to see the finished project, and I bet Fayceoff can't either. |
The anticipation is killing me!!!
Post Title: Re: (fayceoff)
Posted by: 180sxfaktory at 2:54 AM 9/26/2007
On another note, the hot *** sun is killing me, and I'm waiting for a few more hours before I venture back out into the sun to finish up what I started this morning. Ramadan is still in full effect, so I am sure you can relate to what I am saying, bro. Shukran!
Post Title: Re: (180sxfaktory)
Posted by: Zee at 5:37 AM 9/26/2007
| Quote, originally posted by 180sxfaktory » |
In summary, if you can do it (the VG30DETT swap into S chassis), then do it, BUT don't come to me asking for specs and how I did this and that. I took the challenge last year and busted my a$$ to do it just to make a point with that prototype (RIP; trying to get it back, though). If you want my kit, then wait. Yes, I am as slow as a snail, and there were reasons for that previously, but now that I am doing my thing full time, we'll see things cooking along. |
What happened here? Trying to vent about something someone said? Kind of odd, but go ahead we understand.
Post Title: Re: (Zee)
Posted by: 180sxfaktory at 8:23 AM 9/26/2007
Just wanting to know a ballpark of what I am looking at.
Post Title: Re: (180sxfaktory)
Posted by: fayceoff at 4:43 PM 9/27/2007
| Quote, originally posted by 180sxfaktory » |
Ok... now you are probably wondering WTF?! Why are we looking at a Z32 gauge/bezel/clamshell? Well, in this case, AJ expressed that he wants to use as much from the half cut as possible, so I will be modifying the LHD S13 dashboard to accomodate the Z32-spec gauge combo. Digital Climate/Windshield Wiper Controller (goes on the left) |
I just realized (yeah, I know - I'm slow) that this means I'll have a space where the stock S13 climate control unit would've been... I can mold in gauges or a turbo timer or something there!
Post Title: Re: (fayceoff)
Posted by: Zee at 9:10 AM 9/28/2007
lol slow is not a strong enough word for that. I think you should say snail.
Post Title: Re: (Zee)
Posted by: 180sxfaktory at 9:32 AM 9/28/2007
I like the updated site. Did you beat on any cars lately? Here's some more stuff just to show you all how intense this swap is. The engine harness and the chassis harness are all inclusive... meaning that you can't just unplug the one going to the injectors, sensors and other stuff.
Take a look...
This is the part you see of the harness and are probably most familiar with...
Now look...
Scary, isn't it? I have to replace the injector plug connectors due to dry rot. Those things are what always go first on the VG30DETT. The rest of the harness is in good shape. The harness you see is going directly into MAYHEM. The 1989/1990 editions of 240SX have a general similarity shared with the Z32, as far as the harness layouts are concerned. As I mentioned earlier, I am using as much of this half cut as possible, since that was what AJ requested. That's not a bad thing, actually. As much as a person can retain of the original peripheral items, more of the performance characteristics are retained. Some will argue that, but unless one is a true electronics/wiring expert, nothing beats the original factory wiring and the layout.
As I mentioned in my last post, the Z32 was designed around the engine. Here's what that bay looks like without the engine and other peripheral items
It's definitely smaller than the S13 and S14 chassis engine bays.
What's this? Oh! That's the thing everybody keeps asking about... the subframe.
Ok... This looks like a blown up sh!thouse, but no fear. Bahrain is as dry as a California forest before it goes up in flames. Oh... maybe that's not something to joke about. I taking the stuff to my house tomorrow morning for cleaning.
I'm just getting everything lined up so that I can get this car on the road as fast as I can, safely and without hiccups while I am doing some renovation work at my new garage- Dale's Garage, which is opening after Eid this month.
AJ- check your mail in about 30 minutes.
As far as me beating up on some cars, I've been doing that every Thursday night. Doing it again tomorrow night. I'm doing more autocross than drift because I have found out that I'm not actually bad at it. I clocked 52 seconds twice on a very technical course we have here. Think touge but at sea level. Drifting has given me the edge where hard corners don't scare me and I gun through them trail braking all the way to the straight sections. The EVO that was there was only 1 second faster than me, and he is driving a completely gutted car, while mine is fully loaded. I figure if I stripped mine down, I could probably match him. We'll see what happens tomorrow night. Oh! The prototype is not gonna be there because the owner is too damn cheap to fix it. What a waste.
Post Title: Re: (180sxfaktory)
Posted by: fayceoff at 4:53 PM 10/3/2007
I have plans on putting the swap vg30dett into the 89 coupe that you see as my avatar. I am fixing it due to a worn out sensor. My question was how would the swap effect my HUD and would it still be possible to keep it in use? This is one of my most liked features about my car, other than the fact that it is a Nissan. What are some things that I should "prep" or already have on the car other than front and back brakes upgraded? I do know that I am planning on doing the swap but just cant do everything all at once. I do have ideas about what to prepare myself for. Patiently doing a step by step process, but limited to various things like extreme heat (not supposed to be in heat due to seizures) , time (the car is one hour away), and help (mostly doing the work myself but on occasion little bro gives a helping hand ... "Thanx bro." Anyway keep up the GREAT WORK DALE & GRREAT WORK ON THE CAR SO FAR!! As far as the HUD, I have to research it a bit.
Prepping your car now... just make sure that if there is any rotted areas in the frame, take care of it now, as well as widen up the transmission tunnel.
I'll be posting up tonight to show you all the transmission tunnel and the other assorted stuff I've been up to the past few days.
Post Title: Re: (Kraayl)
Posted by: nwmrkt at 9:00 PM 10/6/2007
The kit does sound like it will save a lot of hassle for people wanting to do this swap, I'm a bit surprised you don't have a few more pics of your install.
I kept both the turbo's on mine with standard manifolds oil filter and no modifications to the cross member, twin smic from an r32
Post Title: Re: (200zx)
Posted by: coupe240sxguy at 11:09 PM 10/7/2007
| Quote, originally posted by 200zx » |
| Hello The kit does sound like it will save a lot of hassle for people wanting to do this swap, I'm a bit surprised you don't have a few more pics of your install. I kept both the turbo's on mine with standard manifolds oil filter and no modifications to the cross member, twin smic from an r32 |
| Quote, originally posted by coupe240sxguy » |
| Just remember that you can throw any motor in any car and have it run, but to do it correctly it takes time, especially when you are limited on time in the first place. Also if I remember correctly he is going to sell swap kits for it ( no need to reveal his plans and ideas so that other people can STEAL them.) He is trying to make money, not get sued due to a problem that may happen. To prevent that from happening that takes time for tests and such. |
Did I ask why he was taking so long ?? I don't think so, did I ask him to show exact details of his fitting kit ? again I don't think so ? not sure why your coming across so defensive, Its an engine swap and not the hardest in the world, are you trying to say he just threw his engine in or I did, I know I didn't
Post Title: Re: (200zx)
Posted by: adrians_s13 at 1:43 AM 10/8/2007
200ZX, so you did this in a UK version S13? Good job. In the 180SX and the 200SX UK version, the swap is way way easier than in the 240SX, and the turbo outlet for the JDM and UKDM 300ZX was already designed to clear the steering column knuckle. I do have one question regarding the oil pan... How didyou get it to clear the stock location sway bar or did you remove it? If not, then you notched it. Also, from the looks of the piping direction, you removed the air conditioning pieces. Regardless, good on you.
The 240SX is 180 out from the layout of the JDM and UKDM S13, hence the additional problems.
I'm not on here posting up because I am busy with this job, as well as getting my own garage ready for business next week.
Post Title: Re: (200zx)
Posted by: coupe240sxguy at 8:39 PM 10/8/2007
| Quote, originally posted by 200zx » |
|
Ma'asalama!
Post Title: Re: (180sxfaktory)
Posted by: Lockleaf at 11:19 AM 10/9/2007
Hey FAYCEOFF, you getting antsy yet? Your car is gonna rock!
Keep up the good work dale.
Post Title: Re: (Lockleaf)
Posted by: 180sxfaktory at 12:01 PM 10/9/2007
Again, thanks James!
Post Title: Re: (Lockleaf)
Posted by: fayceoff at 6:22 PM 10/9/2007
| Quote, originally posted by Lockleaf » |
| Hey FAYCEOFF, you getting antsy yet? Your car is gonna rock! |
Hells yeah to both! I get so amped up everytime Dale e-mails me or posts an update... It's like having a date with a slut - everytime you think about it, you're like "I'm gonna f*ck the sh*t outta her when I get my hands on her!" Sorry if that comparison offends anyone, but if you're not a slut, you don't have to be mad.
Post Title: Re: VG30DETT into 1989 240SX (D2180SX)
Posted by: koukikat240 at 9:05 PM 10/9/2007
I removed the air con when I did an sr swap into the same car a while back, so there was no point in trying to put it back, I used the power steering pump from the sr20 and transfered it to where the air con pump was on the vg, made everything relating to steering pipes a straight bolt up job.
Keep up the good work
Modified by 200zx at 12:32 AM 10/25/2007
Post Title: Re: (200zx)
Posted by: TheGift at 11:24 AM 10/31/2007
| Quote, originally posted by sommmatt » |
| Havent seen 180sxfaktory in a while... |
Spoke to Dale again today, and apparently he's dealing with a bad case of identity theft, but he told to let everyone know that he's still alive and kicking.
Post Title: Re: (180sxfaktory)
Posted by: 200zx at 3:58 PM 12/8/2007
| Quote, originally posted by 180sxfaktory » |
| No. Even if it was done, I wouldn't trust it. I've seen people mate the RB20DET gearbox to the RB26DETT and the gearbox didn't last a week. The SR/RB/CA/KA gearboxes are related. |
The ca/sr box is the same as the rb20, but the rb25 box is the same as the vg30dett box with a different shifter assy
Post Title: Re: (masamunex03)
Posted by: lalo at 9:04 PM 12/26/2007
| Quote, originally posted by masamunex03 » |
| Clean Swap. For anyone else interested here are some links to other V-engine swaps VG30ET S13 built by Rick
VQ30DE/VQ35DE Hybrid S14 built by Fred_Allen_Burge LS1 S14.5 built by 240sx-ls1 |
sorry for my english language,and thank you,for yours answers..
Post Title: Re: (blazen)
Posted by: White Comet at 7:46 AM 12/27/2007
| Quote, originally posted by s14tan » |
| your swap is sick yo. how long did it take? |
| Quote, originally posted by s14tan » |
| your swap is sick yo. how long did it take? |
If your asking me the answer would be along time lol, I did it in a very peace meal fashion sometimes it stood for months and never got looked at, I also did a huge amount of other work at the time, 5 stud, brakes suspension lsd etc etc, I think I could do another one in 3 weeks just for the vg swap
The only parts you need is a spare zed and a welder
Post Title: Re: (200zx)
Posted by: White Comet at 2:22 PM 12/27/2007
Any update? 
Post Title: Re: (PBfrEAk)
Posted by: fayceoff at 7:27 PM 2/13/2008
| Quote, originally posted by vutony » |
| nice.......i like the toyota oil filter best |
Post Title: Re: (300zxgod)
Posted by: fayceoff at 5:33 PM 2/14/2008
| Quote, originally posted by 300zxgod » |
| worthless expensive swap! |
I understand... I guess I should pay for it myself. I'll send your half of the money back. All swaps are worthless. The cars get us back and forth without changing the motors, don't they? And the ones that are done well are never cheap. We should just leave our cars the way they come from the factory because that's how they're supposed to be, right? This is my first and probably only time saying this, but STFU noob! Is that what passes for useful input in Denver? You haven't posted one thing worth a damn yet. Don't worry, we'll wait...
Modified by fayceoff at 10:04 PM 2/14/2008
Post Title: Re: (fayceoff)
Posted by: White Comet at 8:03 AM 2/15/2008
seriously with swap looks sick, dont listen to people that dont know what theyre talking about Anything....
Post Title: Re: (TSL)
Posted by: fayceoff at 8:36 AM 4/2/2008
edit: I'm flattered you picked this thread to be your first to post in. Welcome to NICO!
Post Title: Re: (fayceoff)
Posted by: jamesblonde82 at 9:10 AM 4/2/2008
| Quote, originally posted by fayceoff » |
| edit: I'm flattered you picked this thread to be your first to post in. Welcome to NICO! |
Well i have been a long time lurker. I am very interested in this conversion and i was interested in buying one of the conversion kits, but that was a long time ago now.
To be honest i have followed this thread for some time now and i am just trying to find out if this guy is legit. His website looks like it has been taken down. It is coming up to nearly 2 years since he first started this thread claiming that he would be selling conversion kits. Then it takes him nearly a year to do an engine conversion on your car. One thing that makes me a little suspicious is that he puts up detailed photos of a simple rust repair but not one single picture of the engine conversion. Anybody who asks any questions at all about it gets accused of trying to steal his ideas. He claims that the original 240sx vg30dett car was thrashed every day/week but is unable to provide even one photo or video of it running.
What work did you actually get to see completed on your car while you were over there?
Will there ever be a conversion kit available to the public?
Post Title: Re: (jamesblonde82)
Posted by: fayceoff at 3:29 AM 4/3/2008
| Quote, originally posted by jamesblonde82 » |
| oh so not shipping it back to virginia? |
Well, yeah, after this second tour in the desert... If for some reason I don't get the orders, I'll have to pay to have it shipped back, which is what I'm trying to avoid.
TSL, I can't tell you anything about the kit - sorry. All I can say is that I trust Dale, and if he fvcks me over after all he knows I've been thru then Karma will get him back. I still have ultimate confidence in him.
Post Title:
Posted by: RussianMafia at 9:54 AM 4/3/2008
http://img257.imageshack.us/im...9.jpg
Post Title: Re: (xChevox)
Posted by: fayceoff at 9:51 AM 4/8/2008
http://img509.imageshack.us/my...5.jpg
Post Title: Re: (Nis-240sx-san)
Posted by: xChevox at 7:17 PM 4/18/2008
| Quote, originally posted by xChevox » |
| Thanks i hope it goes well this is a very hard swap though so you gotta spend alot of time on it |
Its not that bad it depends on how hard you want to make it for yourself ie where a bouts you position the engine, if you move it right back you give your self lots of work, if you keep away from the fire wall its not so bad, if you make a custom manifold it gets easier again, it really depends on what you want, I think its worth doing as it is a nice engine that often gets slated for no reason and its unlikely you will pull up along side another 240 with a vg30dett
Post Title: Re: (200zx)
Posted by: xChevox at 1:32 AM 4/20/2008
| Quote, originally posted by RussianMafia » |
| nothing for nothing but is he sending you pictures with all the updates??? Dont wont to see another guy get Fuc#$% over on his car. Just my 2 cents p.s iv seen this way to many times. |
Damn, dude, it's looking like you jinxed me. Now I haven't heard from Dale in nearly a month, and he was supposed to have entered the car into a show on the 2nd weekend of April... 
I've sent text messages and e-mails - nothing. Maybe he'll see this and get in contact.
edit: Oh snap, son! Dale got my most recent text and answered. He says he's been working outside Bahrain a lot (I'm assuming Saudi and the Emirates), but he's going to call me when he gets back into Bahrain next week. I'll keep you guys updated.
Modified by fayceoff at 12:24 AM 5/2/2008
Post Title: Re: (fayceoff)
Posted by: blazen at 7:05 AM 5/6/2008
| Quote, originally posted by fayceoff » |
| I have to tell the truth here: I have NO idea! All of the work on my car is being done on the the other side of the world from me so I can't stop by the shop and help out. Maybe someone else can answer that for you. I think that the transmission tunnel has to be widened, but that's all I can say for now. |
thank you, for your answer.transmittion tunel will be broaden,bat what with this engine and front axle?
Post Title: Re: (fayceoff)
Posted by: sauceja at 8:35 AM 5/16/2008
Anyways let us know when you get it done!
Post Title: Re: (sauceja)
Posted by: TSL at 9:05 AM 5/16/2008
| Quote, originally posted by sauceja » |
| Fayceoff: have you gotten any news as to the status of your car. I have read through all the pages as I will be looking for an engine upgrade possibilities. |
Yeah i am still wondering the same thing. It would be so awesome just to see even one picture of the engine in the car.....
| Quote, originally posted by sauceja » |
| This looks a little too much time consuming for me. |
Thats the funny thing, it's not that time consuming. A competent workshop would take a couple of weeks to do the entire conversion. Even an average backyarder only takes a few months of spare time to do this job.
Post Title: Re: (TSL)
Posted by: fayceoff at 12:37 PM 5/17/2008
On a positive side I picked up my 89 hatch today and got it home. Stuck a honda accord battery I had laying around in it and turned on everything works so I tried starting it. Fired right up.
Been sitting in a junkyard untouched for prob. a year or so. 400.00 clean title and body is flawless with one small dent in the right rear that about 10 minutes will have looking new.
Plus I may trade my civic hatch for a 95 240 SE next week or so. Just so tired of Honda's right now that I am down for new challenges.
Thinking RB25 for the S14 and maybe a V8 alternative for the hatch.
Depends how the vg30dett goes that is still high on the want list for motor options for either or both of these cars.
Keep your head up.
(am I at 10 posts yet I need some stuff) LOL
Post Title: SileightyZ ? lol
Posted by: xChevox at 9:28 AM 5/24/2008
http://img393.imageshack.us/my...3.jpg
http://img216.imageshack.us/my...8.jpg
Post Title: Re: SileightyZ ? lol (xChevox)
Posted by: Lockleaf at 7:41 PM 6/18/2008
| Quote, originally posted by Lockleaf » |
| Has anybody looked into using the subframe from an Infiniti M30? The M30 has the VGE motor in it, is rear wheel drive, and honestly the subframe looks very similar to the 240. The overall width exactly matches the 240 at 66.x inches and the track width on it is only an inch narrower. I know trying to use the 300zx front subframe results in odd binding or something, but I wonder about the M30. It's frame is actually closest to the maxima but I would like to know how close it is to the 240. Maybe I shall be the one to find out. |
The s12 left the factory with a vg30 as standard, don't know if would be any use in a conversion.
To be honest I think this thread is getting beyond a joke on the time scale side of things.
Post Title: Re: SileightyZ ? lol (200zx)
Posted by: fayceoff at 2:17 PM 7/1/2008
Mods, I think you can kill this thread. I thank everyone for their support.
Post Title: Re: SileightyZ ? lol (fayceoff)
Posted by: 200zx at 3:19 PM 7/1/2008
| Quote, originally posted by fayceoff » |
| This thread is primarily being left alive as a concept. Dale apparently has ditched me and my project is left for dead. Anyone wanna donate a shell so I can start over? I'm leaving for Iraq in November, but I'd put it in storage until I got back... Mods, I think you can kill this thread. I thank everyone for their support. |
I'm truly gutted for you mate, if you were in the uk I would find you a shell and help you fit the vg
Post Title: Re: SileightyZ ? lol (200zx)
Posted by: fayceoff at 3:46 PM 7/1/2008
I think this sucks balls because he came off as a really nice guy that was strait up. Sorry man.
Post Title: Re: SileightyZ ? lol (tomkun-s13)
Posted by: White Comet at 5:30 AM 7/2/2008
He has my phone numbers (home, work, and cell). He knows where I work and how to locate me. He has my address and my e-mail addresses. If he was trying to reach me, he could. I am thinking that it's possible I may be able to pop up over there from Iraq. If I find him and my car, I'll be very surprised and relieved.
WhiteComet: Thanks. Didn't know if anyonewould catch that. I didn't see it coming either. Like I mentioned before, I've had him over to my house for BBQ and UFC. We've had some pretty deep discussions about religion, family, fatherhood, and of course, cars... I'm very disappointed, but all I can say is that Karma is a B**ch and at least I know I'm not wrong in any way. *sigh*
Modified by fayceoff at 11:10 AM 7/2/2008
Post Title: Re: SileightyZ ? lol (fayceoff)
Posted by: tomkun-s13 at 2:28 AM 7/6/2008
I'd probably track him down or have a friend track him down. Then commence to burning most of the stuff he owns...cause scammers should be stripped of everything and then killed.
WD
Post Title: Re: SileightyZ ? lol (WDRacing)
Posted by: tomkun-s13 at 2:43 AM 7/7/2008
| Quote, originally posted by WDRacing » |
| Not to rub sand in an open wound....but I saw this coming way back man. It sucks regardless... I'd probably track him down or have a friend track him down. Then commence to burning most of the stuff he owns...cause scammers should be stripped of everything and then killed. WD |
Working on it. Opposite sides of the planet, though... That makes it much more difficult.
Post Title: Re: SileightyZ ? lol (fayceoff)
Posted by: WDRacing at 7:50 AM 7/7/2008
| Quote, originally posted by RussianMafia » |
| nothing for nothing but is he sending you pictures with all the updates??? Dont wont to see another guy get Fuc#$% over on his car. Just my 2 cents p.s iv seen this way to many times. |
Hey man sorry to hear about ur car, and hate to say this but i had a feeling this was going to happen.
I hope you have abetter luck on ur next project, how much money did u give him in advance and does he still have ur car??? somewherer because in that case you should press charges. That is if he gave you his real name.
Post Title: Re: (RussianMafia)
Posted by: fayceoff at 10:28 AM 7/10/2008
For everyone who 'told me so' or 'had a feeling this would happen', you guys don't understand. The only reason I lost track of him like this is because Jaymee died and I ended up leaving Bahrain so abrubtly. I got a call from home and 5 hours later I was on a plane on my back over here. Like I said, if Dale's ripped me off knowing my situation, then I may just have to let God or Karma deal with him... But if I see him again, we're gonna move some furniture.
Post Title: Re: (fayceoff)
Posted by: tomkun-s13 at 11:32 PM 7/10/2008
| Quote, originally posted by fayceoff » |
| You know, I wonder if Hitman can help me a little. Somehow, I'm relatively certain he knows a good PI... |
That sounds like a good idea.
Post Title:
Posted by: Florida240sx at 12:47 AM 7/14/2008
The search began here and just kept getting worse.
http://www.acura-legend.com/vb...35394
Post Title: Re: (themadscientist)
Posted by: fayceoff at 4:07 PM 7/18/2008
Mr. Davis will have a permanent reminder of screwing one of our members here...
Dale, do the right thing, or we'll pursue you until the day you die.
Post Title: Re: (AZhitman)
Posted by: fayceoff at 5:32 PM 7/22/2008
Get the word out on a few forums, it's a good way to cover a lot of ground fast.
Post Title:
Posted by: sommmatt at 10:27 PM 7/31/2008
Good luck with the search, I hope things turn around.
Post Title: Re: (sommmatt)
Posted by: fayceoff at 10:43 PM 7/31/2008
Anyway, I started another thread. Feel free to stop in and raise the view count so maybe he'll see it if he searches for his name. http://forums.nicoclub.com/zerothread?id=354004
Post Title: Re: (fayceoff)
Posted by: TSL at 9:57 PM 8/15/2008
I see the thread in the general section has been deleted or something?
Post Title: Re: (TSL)
Posted by: fayceoff at 10:44 PM 8/15/2008
I'd love to see this resolved to a positive outcome.
Post Title: Re: (TSL)
Posted by: fayceoff at 9:46 PM 8/16/2008
My other thread should be back up real soon.
Post Title:
Posted by: jay-spec013 at 11:12 AM 11/7/2008
| Quote, originally posted by fayceoff » |
| Bro... Did you read ANY of this thread? Just try it and post up the results somewhere. |
How's things going I keep looking into this thread hoping to see a yeay I got my car back, no such luck yet though
Post Title: Re: (200zx)
Posted by: fayceoff at 5:30 AM 11/13/2008
Post Title: Re: (KGB)
Posted by: fayceoff at 6:35 AM 2/23/2009
I'll never get my car back, but one way or another, I'm going to get my money's worth... I still want to do the swap, but more than likely I'll just end up getting a new Camaro and keeping an S13 as a project car.
Post Title: Re: (fayceoff)
Posted by: KGB at 1:37 AM 2/26/2009
Im sure that whatever you do decide to do itll turn out good. Keep us posted on any plans/ideas cause I wanted to do the vg swap also but its beginning to sound like a bad idea (more work than there should be type of thing), now...i dont know what I want to do
Post Title: Re: (KGB)
Posted by: fayceoff at 5:33 AM 4/18/2009
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