its a CA20 block, with the CA18DET head.
has modified forged 4G63 conrods
forged pistons
custom inlet and exhaust manifolds.
standard CA20 crank
turbo is a GT30/35 ( I think ).
both the inlet and exhaust manifolds should be finished this week sometime, so will take more pics then.
R32 4spots
its in a Datsun 1600......that big hole is for the intercooler
inlet manifold in the build.....
Decent sized looking ports ( yes its very rough.....needs to be finished yet )
theres the approximate position of where the turbo will sit
Modified by datsunboy at 12:14 AM 3/26/2006
Modified by datsunboy at 1:27 PM 3/30/2006
Modified by datsunboy at 9:56 PM 6/6/2006
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Posted by: OverBoosted180 at 7:01 AM 3/25/2006
DAMN that is going to be a monster of a motor! If you could, get us as much info on the CA20 as you can, as I am sure that many are as interested as I am on how to go about doing it practically (damn you Tomei!).
Knowing there are motors like that out there in the wide, wide world helps me sleep at night...
Post Title: Re: CA20DET build!....pics (datsunboy)
Posted by: XTCshri2222 at 7:43 AM 3/25/2006
I'm back down there probably Monday after work, so will ask him some more questions on it.
what do you want to know?
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Posted by: rico05 at 5:07 PM 3/25/2006
"WTF? Where is the SR?"
"SR? I have a baby RB."
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Posted by: CA19DET at 7:15 AM 3/27/2006
CA has app. 452cc per cylinder, while Rb has about 417cc.
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Posted by: OverBoosted180 at 9:49 AM 3/27/2006
| Quote, originally posted by CA19DET » |
| i am very very interested in teh 4G63 Rod combo... what was special about them did he have to machine the caps to fit the crank, special bearings?? are they forged rods or factory...?? more info needed please. |
There are 2 sizes of 4g63 rods. They are identical apart from the width of the big end. Any rod from evo1 onwards has the narrow big end. You need to take about 0.9mm off both sides i think. Dont have my pc to check the specs i have saved.
They are 150mm long and have 22mm pin, maybe 21mm, i cant remember either. I had a set narrowed to run on a ca18det crank in a ca20 block with 84.5mm honda pistons from 2l crv with b16a head
You can run the factory evo bearings
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Posted by: datsunboy at 11:30 PM 3/27/2006
and custom spec Wiesco pistons
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Posted by: CA19DET at 6:42 AM 3/28/2006
you know my engine builder is a 4g63 wizard and had tonnes of 4G parts laying around, gotta check that out..
but this got my attention BIG time...
| Quote » |
| I had a set narrowed to run on a ca18det crank in a ca20 block with 84.5mm honda pistons from 2l crv with b16a head You can run the factory evo bearings |
you used a B16 head on a CA18 or pistons for a B20 using a B16 head so you ge the correct valve releifs etc..
and evo bearings work (with standard CA18 crank and rods too???), man if so - thats great cause we can now use all those slick super trick coated evo bearings.
Post Title: Re: (CA19DET)
Posted by: fraz at 1:29 AM 3/29/2006
| Quote, originally posted by CA19DET » |
| my god... you know my engine builder is a 4g63 wizard and had tonnes of 4G parts laying around, gotta check that out.. but this got my attention BIG time...
and evo bearings work (with standard CA18 crank and rods too???), man if so - thats great cause we can now use all those slick super trick coated evo bearings. |
You can use 84.5mm pistons from a b20 honda that has been fitted with a b16a head. Go to http://www.theoldone.org or something, they sell a million sizes of trick pistons to suit any possible combination of honda you could think of. There are about 4-6 different crown sizes available off the shelf, so you can easily find something to fit.
The evo1 onwards rods are 150mm with 26.4mm wide big end that needs to be narrowed to 24mm CA crank. the small end is 22mm so the honda pistons need to be bored from 21 to 22mm pin, or you can get some trick wrist pins made up
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Posted by: CA19DET at 7:19 AM 3/29/2006
Heres my delima, what rpm is acceptable for this block without having a crank girdle?
And What is the part # for the Toyota Timming belt you guys are using for the taller block?
The Honda piston/ DSM rod combo is engenious, wish i had known about it before i started building my frankenstein.....(I love it we've evolved to honda tuner status....We can swap heads on different blocks....lol)
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Posted by: datsunboy at 3:09 AM 3/30/2006
I forgot CA20s didnt have a crank girdle......wonder how thats going to go with the power hes hoping for......hope nothing breaks!
evolved to honda??? weve ALWAYS beena able to swap heads on different blocks!
The old Datsun "L-series" engine is a non-crossflow single cam carbed engine.....and a lot of people bolt on a "Z18ET" head....which gives it crossflow EFI turbo.
wierd as it sounds....I also know a guy that is putting a mazda MX5 head ( DOHC EFI )....onto a Datsun "A-series" engine ( pushrod motor!! ).
so the head swapping thing sure isnt new for datsun/nissan tuners.....
Post Title: Re: (datsunboy)
Posted by: Driftek Motor Sports at 7:56 AM 3/30/2006
| Quote, originally posted by datsunboy » |
| I'll try find out 2moro what part number the belt is.....but hes not even sure that it is a Toyota one.... I forgot CA20s didnt have a crank girdle......wonder how thats going to go with the power hes hoping for......hope nothing breaks! evolved to honda??? weve ALWAYS beena able to swap heads on different blocks! The old Datsun "L-series" engine is a non-crossflow single cam carbed engine.....and a lot of people bolt on a "Z18ET" head....which gives it crossflow EFI turbo. wierd as it sounds....I also know a guy that is putting a mazda MX5 head ( DOHC EFI )....onto a Datsun "A-series" engine ( pushrod motor!! ). so the head swapping thing sure isnt new for datsun/nissan tuners..... |
Yeah definately, I need that Timming belt part #.....
Thanks....
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Posted by: CA19DET at 7:08 AM 3/31/2006
all this info is very interesting and came a month too late, we had a spare block and spare 4g6 rods laying around we could have done some experimenting.
jon
opps this is actually Not_a_Sr... someone left themselves logged in last night. .. 
Post Title: Re: (nissanic89)
Posted by: oldschoolsilvia at 3:35 PM 3/31/2006
| Quote, originally posted by CA19DET » |
| thats why i guess TOMEI uses a custom crank instead of the CA20 block with no girdle. |
I think i can used a ka24e crank girdle after better inspection with a litte modification....
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Posted by: fraz at 2:05 PM 4/1/2006
| Quote, originally posted by fraz » |
| ka cranbk girdle wont fit, the bore spacing is too different. ca18 crank girdle will bolt on using ca20 caps and ca18det main bolts and will clear the ca20 crank. The early crank girdle from ca18det (late u11) wont fit |
Thanks for the advise bro...... I'll check it out......
Post Title: Re: (Driftek Motor Sports)
Posted by: Seishuku at 1:52 AM 5/16/2006
| Quote, originally posted by Driftek Motor Sports » |
| Yeah definately, I need that Timming belt part #..... Thanks.... |
you need to drill the block on the ca20 in the same spot as the idler pulley on the ca18. drill to 8.6mm and tap to m10.
you can also use a cut down h22a honda timing belt
Post Title: Re: (fraz)
Posted by: tyrannix at 7:20 AM 5/16/2006
but this one here is amazing.....pics are off my cell phone, so the quality is crap, and doesnt do this car justice!
Post Title: Re: (datsunboy)
Posted by: ks13 at 11:18 PM 6/15/2008
Curious as to what kind of power it made....
Post Title: Re: (ks13)
Posted by: themadscientist at 11:24 PM 6/15/2008
"hey is this an rb20?"
"No, ca18.."
"oh CAA? Nice."
Just realized only canadians will get this, CAA is like AAA but in Canada, for roadside assistance and whatnot
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Posted by: r34 gtr at 7:00 AM 6/16/2008
| Quote, originally posted by float_6969 » |
| I'd guess even less than that, since you can't even spell it right |
thats what florida schools do to ya. 
| Quote, originally posted by themadscientist » |
| haha, now you have to move to manitoba or something. |
long as I dont have to speak french
Post Title: Re: (float_6969)
Posted by: DALAZ_68 at 7:30 PM 6/18/2008
| Quote, originally posted by float_6969 » |
| I'd guess even less than that, since you can't even spell it right |
as for the rest of you fools stop cluttering this thread with useless nonsense.
Post Title: Re: (datsunboy)
Posted by: boost_boy at 4:33 PM 10/10/2009
| Quote, originally posted by datsunboy » |
| The guy was running a factory head gasket, and too much power (I told him the factory one wouldnt hold up to that power). so he blew the gasket, and actually melted a hole in the head between 2 cylinders. It was making approx 350 RWHP on 17psi |
Dee
Post Title: Re: (ks13)
Posted by: ca18detgabby at 7:45 PM 10/10/2009
| Quote, originally posted by ks13 » |
as for the rest of you fools stop cluttering this thread with useless nonsense. |
most posts would have 2 or 3 replys if it wasnt for shannigans.
sucks the motor poped, in for carnage pix! keep us updated.
Post Title: Re: (ca18detgabby)
Posted by: Fleemer at 8:26 PM 10/14/2009
Cheaper then trying to get your stock crank fixed from a thrown bearing
Post Title: FN-QR
Posted by: float_6969 at 5:48 AM 10/15/2009
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